MEDICAL PREPS: Two lists. 1) prevention 2) when sick

I have a couple lists for first aid kits I compiled for my offline shtf database of everything.

I don't really know jack shit about it beyond basic first aid through limited instruction, on the construction site job injury experience and estimated guess work.

probably from common military manuals scarfed off the web in pdf form and converted by ME.

Basic First-Aid Kit Checklist

1 elastic-roll bandage
Aspirin or ibuprofen
Adhesive tape
Alcohol swabs
Antacid
Antihistamine
Antiseptic ointment
Adhesive bandages, assorted sizes
Bug repellent
Bulb irrigating syringe
Butterfly bandages
Chemical heat and cold packs
Dry-wash pads or wipes
Diarrhea medicine
Gauze pads
Hydrocortisone cream (soothes allergic skin)
Mirror, small and unbreakable
Moleskin, 1 or 2 packets
Cotton swab, sterile, packaged in pairs
Safety pins
Scissors (Swiss Army Pen Knife has scissors, small blade and nail file)
Sunscreen
Triangular bandage
Tweezers

Inspect the contents before every trip.
Make sure the tools are clean.
Inspect supplies for good working condition.
Replace expired medicines.
Keep a list of possible additions from experience.
Make sure the container is durable and waterproof.
Stow First-Aid Kit in an easily accessible compartment of your backpack.




Large First-Aid Kit Checklist

This list may seem extreme.
It is designed for a well trained person in a worst case scenario.
Even though it is a long list, it all packs down.
Similar content, packs into:
2 med. size nylon multi-compartment bags
1 Plano rigid 747 box

Specific item descriptions not included.
If you don't know what it is, you shouldn't have it or try to use it.



General Large First-Aid Kit Items

1 Lg. gauze dressings
1 Sm. gauze squares
1 Combat dressings
1 Petroleum gauze
1 Plastic bags
1 Band-Aids, assorted sizes and shapes
1 Elastoplast dressing
1 Steristrips, assorted sizes
1 Tincture of Benzoin
1 Roller (elasticated + cotton) bandages (2 in., 4 in. & 6 in.)
1 Triangular bandages
1 Safety pins
1 Cotton buds
1 Paper tape (1/2 in. & 1 in.)
1 Sleek tape (1/2 in. & 1 in.)
1 Oropharyngeal airways
1 Resuscitation face mask with one way valve
1 BP cuff
1 Stethoscope
1 Otoscope
1 Sm. Torch (flash light)
1 Thermometer (rectal for children)
1 Heavy duty scissors
1 Space blanket
1 Air splints (arm, long-leg & short-leg)
1 SAM splints
1 Plaster of Paris (or fiberglass) roller bandages (4 in. & 6 in.)
1 Multidip. urine test strips
1 Pregnancy test kits
1 Sterile and unsterile latex gloves
1 Scrub Suits
1 Fluroscene eye strips
1 Eye patches
1 Sm. eye magnet (for FB's)



IV (Eye-Vee) Large First-Aid Kit Items

1 Normal Saline
1 Haemaccel or Pentaspan (a colloid resuscitation fluid)
1 IV giving sets; maxisets + standard sets
1 Blood collection bags + filter giving sets
1 Syringes 2, 5, 10, 20 ml.
1 Needles 20, 22, 24 g.
1 IV cannulas 16, 20, 24 g.
1 Spinal needles 22 g.
1 Leur locks (Heparin locks)
1 Tourniquet
1 Alcohol Wipes
1 Snake bite kit (if unlucky enough to have them)
The Sayer suction kit is recommended.
It is slightly more expensive, but I understand more effective in removing venom.
I refer you here to the excellent rec. backcountry FAQ on Snake Bites



Surgical Large First-Aid Kit Items

1 Mayo scissors
1 Dissecting forceps
1 Sm curved clamps
1 Sm straight clamps
1 Lg curved clamps
1 Scalpel Handle + Blades (size 11, 12, 15) or disposable scalpels
1 Sm Bone Saw
1 Lift Out obstetric forceps
1 Emergency Obstetric Kit (includes cord clamps, bulb suction etc.)
1 Suture Material
1 Vicryl 0/,2/0
1 Chromic 0/,2/0
1 Dermalon 0/, 2/0 Surgical stapler and remover
1 Hemilich flutter valve
1 Penrose drains
1 Foley Urethral Catheters
1 Urine Bags
1 N-G tubes + spigots


Dental Large First-Aid Kit Items

1 Oil of cloves
1 Zinc Oxide paste
1 Dental mirror
1 Sharp probe
1 Compactor
1 Extraction forceps



Medications Large First-Aid Kit Items

1 Povidone - Iodine Prep antiseptic skin prep
1 Alcohol prep antiseptic skin prep
1 Chlorhexidine and cetrimide antiseptic handwash
1 Benalkium Chloride antirabies skin wash
1 Antibacterial Soap
1 Paracetamol oral mild analgesic
1 Aspirin oral wonder drug
1 Diclophenic oral mod analgesic (nsaid)
1 Morphine iv/im/sc strong analgesic
1 Narloxone iv antagonist to morphine
1 Ketamine iv/im iv anesthetic
1 Diazepam iv hypnotic/sedative
1 Atropine iv pre-med/poison anti
1 Lignocaine top/spinal local anesthetic
1 Metoclopramide iv/im

anti-emetic
1 Augmentin oral/iv penicillin antibiotic
1 Metronidazole oral anaerobic antibiotic
1 Cefaclor oral cephalsporin
1 Ceftriaxone iv cephalsporin
1 Ciprofloxacin oral quinolone antibiotic
1 Mebendazole oral antiparasitic
1 Clotrimoxazole top anti-fungal
1 Adrenaline iv/im (USA = Epinephrine)
1 Salbutamol inhaler asthma/anaphylaxis
1 Rehydration formula dehydration
1 Benedryl &/or Claratyne oral antihistamine (short and long acting)
1 OTC Cough surpressent
1 Betnesol oral steroid
1 Hydrocortisone iv/cream steroid
1 Loperamide oral antidiarrhoeal
1 Ergometrine &/or Oxytocin im/iv ecbolic for PPH
1 Neomycin eye drop antibiotic eye drops
1 Pilocaine eye drops local anesthetic
1 Starr Otic Drops antibiotic ear drops
1 Mupirocin (Bactroban) top topical antibacterial cream
1 Gamma Benzene Hexchloride top for scabies and lice
1 Water for injection/normal saline for injection
1 Oral Contraceptive Pills
1 Condoms/Cervical Caps/Diaphragms

I have many many medical books already converted to my database on every medical subject, although some is still just raw pdf garbage almost unusable

It's hyper critical when you hate the hospital and doctors you quickly seek independence and realize how much your missing in terms of life saving when a little cut or touching the wrong contaminated surface can kill you
if you don't have the medicine
all the first aid in the World wont save you.

wow...I didn't even read 1/2 of thr threads and there are so many things who are SO FUCKING WRONG

from people suggesing aspirin containing drugs and natural remedies to control fever!!! This is how the virus spread deep into the lungs.

Fever is the only sure thing that is killing the virus. You should never take anything for fever except when reaches 40 degrees celsius for extended time.
At 39 you can start to keep the head colder to prevent damages to the brain.

Actually you want heat your body. Take a hot or bath. A sauna/infrared is even better. Cover yourself with heavy blankets and sweat. Drink fluids with salts. Breath fresh air from 10 to 15 degrees (this create nitric oxyde)
Rinse and repeat: take another shower, change, go back to bed.

you can beat a flu in this way in 3 hours.

THE ONLY THINGS YOU HAVE TO KEEP ON CHECK ARE HYDRATATION (solution or good marine salt, potassium,magnesium,vit c), HIGH TEMPERATURE WITH A COLD PATCH,!!! AND AVOID THE CYTOKINE STORM!!!

to address the cytokine storm you must 1# understand what it is: an abnormal over reaction of the immube system with body flush, diarrhea,heavy breathing with lot of mucus, shivers, hearth palpitation and high BP, it's basically an alkergic reaction:

avoid anything encouraging it like breathing free ozone (you can breath a little trough oil bubbling, can drink some ozoned water or take ozoned oil, take rectal infusions of ozone) or breathing essential oils you could be allergic too, and any immune system stimulant like sambucol/edelberry echinacea etc IF YOU HAVE NOT ACTUALLY LOW IMMUNE SYSTEM.

if you are producing lot of mucus your immune system is working and you just need to be sure it doesn't over react creating the cytokine storm.

you must keep your lungs relaxed to let mucus flow.

if mucus is thick use acetylcysteine/garlic/lysine. Mechanically help the removal by laying down on your belly with legs and head kept higher with some pillows.Rinse with saline.

If the mucus is liquid and frothing then you should take ACE2 inhibitors like ginger, yohimbe, and H1 blockers and either the H2 blockers or PPI as mentioned in the thread.

if breathing become difficult breath oxygen: use diluited hydrogen peroxid at 3% in a humidifier or aerosol and deep breath.

if nothing works then you need mechanical breathing support.

there are many things you can do, just avoid huge mistakes and focus on prevention and limiting virus replication.

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What do you think of trying inhaling alcohol fumes for cleaning the lungs to help kill the virus like they did in the old day?

so basically we WANT to keep the fever to fight the virus?

Interesting article about rubbing alcohol. Looks like 70% is better for killing germs:

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More like help the fever, go out side and work up a sweat doing some hard labor in the fresh and a bit of sunshine. Hot tub, hot bath, steam room, heating pad, elc blanket, hot shower, cuddle up with a warm friend and drink lots of water.

After helping the fever, do a cool down, cold rinse and repeat. As an old grandma, I agree with med expert trying to help us.

No word yet on my old age question, does vaping alcohol help kill this new virus in the lungs our bodies have no immunity to.

Tea bags, real Honey, great for sore throats and
chest congestion.

Also tea bags can be used to draw infections from cuts also tooth abscesses, just run hot water over bag to dampen and apply to area, might need to repeat several times.

Epsom salts, good for a lot of things can also be applied with towel or cloth for aching joints etc.

Hey what can I say, we grew up poor!

I ordered 68 count mucinex dm, green box.

Make sure and get the 12 hour pills.


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I meant to add,

Ordered from Amazon. No limit.
No limit at my regular store in Va either.

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Phenergan if you can get it

Here’s an odd bugout bag question. I have asthma, not too serious, but very serious around allergy triggers so I carry inhalers. Due to planning I have sufficient inhalers for a bugout bag but —

At one point I bought small liquid sachets of a type of generic Primatene from the U.S. when I was worried about stock supply in the UK. I don’t have a Nebulizer and I’m not going to get one before the SHTF.

They’re sterile tiny plastic sachets of Racepinephrine (a bronchodilator), each sachet is 0.5 ml and contains 11.25 mg Racepineprine

Are these liquid sachets useful in any way? Should I take them with me? Could I use them for example in a inhalation over boiled water with a towel over my head if I needed to?

If anyone could weigh in that would be great.

Brand name Asthmanefrin. As said I’m not taking a nebuliser with me, just wanna know if these would be useful somehow in a camping situation in the case of an asthma attack.

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Serious question:

Where do Zyrtec/Claritin/Allegra fall into these categories. I ask because I feel weird when I take Benadryl.

I don’t believe they’re the same thing as they’re different types of antihistamine and affect different receptors —you need the citrizine (Benadryl) ones. Unless you’re bona fide allergic to Benadryl.

I mean, we all like BUTTSTUFF but even that is too big for me.

I got that, the PPI drugs, selenium, and am making thieves oil tomorrow.

Don't know about selenium and when to take tho.

so for cytokine storm, you should only start taking those meds for it once you start seeing the symptoms? But before that it is ok to take the regular things for a virus, right?

Actually your advice about no zinc is incorrect:

There are studies that show that zine is an immune regulator that can prevent cytokine storm:

Here is a good article that explains how zinc keeps the immune system in check and protects against cytokine inflammation storm.

[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]


Researchers say they have gained a key insight into how zinc helps the immune system fight infection.

A study shows that zinc stops the immune system from spiralling out of control, as happens when people develop sepsis.

After previous studies in mice, the researchers from Ohio State University had shown that zinc-deficiency could lead to excessive inflammation.

This is what happens in sepsis, when in response to a severe infection, the body goes into overdrive, with potentially fatal consequences.

Feedback loop

Through further experiments in human cells and animal studies the researchers found that a protein called NF-kB lured zinc into the immune cells that responded fastest to fight infection.

Once inside, the zinc then put the brakes on further activity in the NF-kB pathway, slowing down the immune response and limiting the amount of inflammation, the study, in Cell Reports, indicated.

It was effectively a feedback loop, stopping the process getting out of hand, the researchers said.

Study leader, Dr Daren Knoell, said: "The immune system has to work under very strict balance, and this is a classic example of where more is not always better.

"We want a robust inflammatory response, which is part of our natural programming to defend us against a bug.

"But if that is unchecked, and there is too much inflammation, then it not only attacks the pathogen but can also cause much more collateral damage."

"The implications of the work extend beyond the impact of zinc on innate immune function," he said.

Actually your advice about no zinc is incorrect:

There are studies that show that zine is an immune regulator that can prevent cytokine storm:

Here is a good article that explains how zinc keeps the immune system in check and protects against cytokine inflammation storm.

[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]


Researchers say they have gained a key insight into how zinc helps the immune system fight infection.

A study shows that zinc stops the immune system from spiralling out of control, as happens when people develop sepsis.

After previous studies in mice, the researchers from Ohio State University had shown that zinc-deficiency could lead to excessive inflammation.

This is what happens in sepsis, when in response to a severe infection, the body goes into overdrive, with potentially fatal consequences.

Feedback loop

Through further experiments in human cells and animal studies the researchers found that a protein called NF-kB lured zinc into the immune cells that responded fastest to fight infection.

Once inside, the zinc then put the brakes on further activity in the NF-kB pathway, slowing down the immune response and limiting the amount of inflammation, the study, in Cell Reports, indicated.

It was effectively a feedback loop, stopping the process getting out of hand, the researchers said.

Study leader, Dr Daren Knoell, said: "The immune system has to work under very strict balance, and this is a classic example of where more is not always better.

"We want a robust inflammatory response, which is part of our natural programming to defend us against a bug.

"But if that is unchecked, and there is too much inflammation, then it not only attacks the pathogen but can also cause much more collateral damage."

"The implications of the work extend beyond the impact of zinc on innate immune function," he said.

Yeah, what's with the looks from people when they see someone buying a lot of stuff?

If they aren't smart enough to prep, they surely don't know that others are smart enough to prep.

Is it envy or what?

Everyone look at you wierd because they wonder....

Why not just buy some good water filters???