NCov-2019/SARS - ACE2 receptors (entry?) - the ANSWER to which COUNTRY/POPULATION has the most (and the least) frequency

Yes partly.

They also want to bring down the average IQ.

Actually, there are a lot of respiratory infections that fit your description. And each and every one of these will have different effects and different degrees of severity in each individual.

The very biggest missing puzzle piece regarding the Wuhan novel coronavirus is the wholly unknown percentage of persons, regardless of race or ethnicity, who develop only mild symptoms and thus don't seek medical intervention, don't get tested for this particular pathogen and therefore are never counted in any statistics. It's possible that only the unknown percentage who develop acute conditions such as pneumonia, acute respiratory distress, bronchial hemorrhage and so on are tested and confirmed as being victims.

It would seem unlikely that this precise strain of coronavirus was already affecting London to a wide extent a month or more ago but it is not beyond the realm of possibility due to all the unknowns.

Asians used their RNA to make a virus for what they wanted to spread on whites later. Their manifesto was biological warfare by 2030. They where working on their vaccine for it and it backfired. Probably July some Hong Kong sleeper cell working in the lab seeing his people's grasp on freedom slip to the communist state

No. Some janitorial staff at the research lab sold the dead infected lab animals at the wet market as food instead of disposing of the animals properly. They are poor and uneducated and tried to make a quick buck and didn’t realize exactly what they were doing.

Absolutely.

Ive been struggling to frame that question.

You nailed it.

On the figures quoted - recognising they are by residency not ethnicity - UK nationals have quite high incidences relative to other non Asian groups. Not sure if it’s lower for Celts - Scots and Irish.

Suggests WASPs in the US shouldn’t assume they are immune!

I don't think anyone with any intelligence, including WASPs in the US, could be accused of assuming they are immune. What everyone on the planet needs to know is as much valid information as possible about this pathogen, with no restrictions on reportage for political, economic or any other reasons.

Just cuz I love this gif

Okay, I am half croatian and half german, Croats are 17,7, so I'll be around 20 I guess..

This is so spooky.. my Goverment first said "meh less than the flu", but in the last couple days they went to.. "it's probably more serious then initially thought, but we need to keep calm".. not much info what has changed their mind from "bs" to.. "hang on"..

First post. Its a SARS study.

Well there is one news from Germany..

10 people in Bavaria are infected (including two children), all adults work at the company Webasto.

Though 80 of the employees were tested negative, they have order to remain self-quarantined at home.

Maybe they are tripping out because the test is eqally wishy washy like the HIV test kits in the early stages of the Aids epidemic..

Could be a number of reasons i guess.

The PRC nationals in Germany: 136,460.

Thats not counting any other nationalities that inherently have an indicated high ACE2 and are in Germany at this time.

That number of people succumbing to this virus in a short period of time would overwhelm the health system of any country.

And thats the best case scenario we can take away from this.

Scratch a russian and you find a tatar
M o n g e l

Look at Hungarians.. they're at 27

that's because they are Magyar, mixed with Huns..
Russians.. Skytians .. also mixed with central Asians..

They will really not like this...

East Germans have also a higher "Hunnic" in-mix than West Grmans, who are genetically closer to french Ghauls.

It's not so clean cut in Europe..

shhh not so loud anglo-saxon..

before they all die of that shit they will nuke you first,

just to make a point.

Wife is Magyar.

Its the original melting pot that region. Seems to comprise genetics originating in the East, others with genetics in the West.

I am old enough to remember when the Berlin Wall came down and East and West Germany were reunited. I recall seeing this one video that was shown on television media in the West showing large crowds of people in Eastern Germany traveling, en masse, to parts of Germany that they had never been to in their lives. What struck me was that an unusually high percentage of these people had light blond hair and were light complexioned. I don't know what, if anything this means regarding genetic differences between different areas in Germany or maybe it was just a coincidence.

But if all of this speculation about genetic sub-types and their varying possible susceptibility to this coronavirus has validity, it would seem as if many Caucasians would have a difficult time trying to determine their own genetic heritage, much less their susceptibility.

For instance, here in the US, the majority of those of European origin have intermixed so much over the past few generations that they do not even know their full ethnic or genetic makeup. The term that used to be used to describe such people was "Mongrel," but that is no longer used today because it is considered to be offensive. What if one has Slavic, Nordic, Mediterranean, Celtic and possibly other mixes within their own genetic profile? How could they determine their risk? It gets maddening and all of this is assuming that there really are significant differences is risk based on race, which as far as I know has so far not been officially determined or at least revealed.

About two weeks before the whole Wu Wu Flu became a thing, a woman I know in Las Vegas (who works where she'd have contact with tourists, including Chinese citizens) got extremely ill with a very bad cough combined with a fever bad enough she was shivering. She was sick for about seven days; a pretty unusually long period of time for your average cold or flu.

Later, I would get sick too, though the only major symptom I had was the cough. It felt like a bad bronchitis/mild pneumonia and lasted about ten days; again, a long period of time. If I took a deep breath you could clearly hear the rattling sound of all the gunk in my lungs. Exhaling would make a raspy, whistling noise. Never made so much noise simply by breathing in my life.

First time I've been sick in years and years. And it was the first time in much longer that anything I did catch lasted more than like two days.

I honestly do wonder if that was maybe the Wu Wu Flu. The woman described above who caught and spread this illness had symptoms that would have sent a lot of people to the hospital, and with the amount of gunk in my lungs from my illness I could easily imagine an older person or someone with compromised lung function having it turn into serious pneumonia. We're both younger and in good health, but I could see that same illness hospitalizing and even killing a percentage or two of those who caught it. Neither of us are Asian; and that could also have something to do with why our symptoms fell short of requiring hospitalization. And, to repeat, this started with somebody in Las Vegas whose work puts them in regular contact with international tourists, a great many of which are Chinese.

I mean, it sounds reasonable to me that this thing would go around a bit before being detected.. How often does somebody go to the doctor with an upper respiratory infection and have their doctor do a complex test to isolate and sequence the exact pathogen responsible to check to see if it was caused by a novel virus? I've never seen it. Especially during flu season where these sort of symptoms are expected. So it very well may have been in London in early January, and it may have been in Las Vegas in mid-December, and a difference in the way the virus effects people of Asian decent may explain why we in the west aren't hearing about very many people getting sick or dying while the same pathogen is spreading like wildfire and killing people in Asia.

Last Edited by KonspiracyKitty on 02/03/2020 07:53 PM

this is dumb

any way to figure out eastern Europeans? Polish...Ukrainian

Your guess is as good as mine. Hingary is the closest country of reference. Thats all i coild find.

Who else in the world ..Always wears masks,even for the dumbest littlest thing??

The asians if one coughs,POOF MASK TIME....

The Genes of Asians for Lungs ...sucks...

None of them died.

Did you have diarrhea just before you got sick?

Yeah, your hypothesis is conceivable, especially considering your lady friend had close contact with Chinese tourists. Then again, seven days is actually typical for influenza. The main difference between influenza and the more common "cold" type of respiratory virus is that influenza strikes very, very suddenly, whereas cold viruses (including the more common and much less lethal coronaviruses, rhinoviruses, etc.) take up to four days to reach their peak symptoms. With influenza, you feel fine when you wake up in the morning and by that evening you have a fever, chills, probably a sore throat, headache, body aches and possibly a cough as well. With a cold, it usually starts as a sore throat which gets progressively worse for 24-36 hours, then transitions into plugged up nasal passages, runny nose, sneezing and possibly a low-grade fever, but the sore throat disappears. Cold viruses can last anywhere from a few days to weeks and both the flu and the more common viruses can lead to pneumonia in a minority of cases.

The detailed symptoms you described for yourself do indeed sound like pneumonia. But if so, it was almost certainly viral pneumonia and not bacterial pneumonia. THe bacterial version is much more common but it does not just go away on its own within a week or two. Almost always one needs antibiotics to effectively treat bacterial pneumonia and before those existed, the majority of cases were ultimately fatal, even for young and otherwise healthy people. Viral pneumonia can resolve on its own, however, if one has a strong immune system.

But again, the biggest question with this Wuhan coronavirus is how many of those infected just recover on their own, don't seek medical care, are never tested for the virus and thus never detected. Additionally, if it really does hit Asians particularly hard as opposed to those of other races, it could go largely unnoticed outside of Asian populations, at least for a while.

Wonder if its an adaptation to handle smoke. Asia been burning forests in managed brush fires for millennia.
My boy is half far east asian.. but ace and ace2 come from coding on male y chromosome .. my race being anglo, celt, slav, nordic, tatar. Fingers xd for all innocents

China has the worst air pollution of any large nation on Earth, in its larger cities. This is one of the main reasons we so often see video of Asians in urban areas wearing masks. It's almost akin to the infamous "London fog" from a century or more ago, when there were literally millions of chimneys in London and most of them were dispersing thick smoke from coal-burning sources. The word "smog" was invented there to describe the weather conditions which produced a thick fog combined with toxic smoke and it sometimes got so bad that people would die from asphyxiation as a result.

Thank you

My blonde brain just requires a simple excel table:
Females - age - country
Males - age - country

Interesting article about the distribution of ACE

But, reading the intro looks like they are talking about different variations of the ACE I enzyme. They are looking at an insertion in the genetic code of the enzyme

Where it is confusing is that they use I for insertion and D for deletion

So look like ACE II refers to the presence of two copies of the ACE gene with the insertion and ACE I/D refers to only one ACE gene with the insertion. ACE D/D refers to neither copy with the insertion


(Fascinating though. For example, Could the presence/absence of the insertion effect the expression of the ACEII enzyme?)