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CORONAVIRUS: Just when you think you are safe!...

 
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I think you'll be ok as long as you washed your hands after that handshake lol. And the guy, if sick, wasn't displaying any symptoms. You'll be ok, don't worry.

I hear you though. I'm in Ontario, Canada and we've had 3 confirmed cases so far. Nobody here takes it seriously. My inlaws, who are turning 70 this year and are looking forward to flying across the world and going on a month long cruise in 2 months. They keep encouraging us to also go on a Euro trip even though I have told them that I'm staying put and avoiding airports and planes until this corona business blows over.
They look at me as if I just dismembered and ate an infant in front of them. How dare I try to ruin their travel fun by taking about something negative like a deadly virus. They think it's just a common cold. They are completely delusional and refuse to acknowledge anything that doesn't agree with their life style.

But of course they will be the first ones to stand in line for the vaccine when it comes out. They get vaccinated for everything under the sun every year and then wonder why they have strange unexplained health issues that put them in the hospital every year. Dumb people.
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This fucking leaf still thinks the virus cannot be spread if you are asymptomatic.... jeeeezus!
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My god women can turn a simple a simple couple of lines story into a full blown useless rant. Nobody is gonna read that story that is 70% about you, your social standing and how important you are to a heap of unimportant people. Loose the ego and the life story, nobody gives a fuck.
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This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.
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Can anyone summarize... I read about 3 paragraphs and gave up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75054451


The world needs this deadly virus. FFS, the more you read, the faster you will be able to comprehend without having to pause every 3 seconds to reread.

It took me about 2 minutes to read the whole fucking story. You drool with your mouth open longer than that before you realize you're spitting on yourself.

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Why in the hell would anyone fly from NC to China just to babysit?

Fuck all that.
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My god women can turn a simple a simple couple of lines story into a full blown useless rant. Nobody is gonna read that story that is 70% about you, your social standing and how important you are to a heap of unimportant people. Loose the ego and the life story, nobody gives a fuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78433097


This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75635070


Can anyone summarize... I read about 3 paragraphs and gave up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75054451


The world needs this deadly virus. FFS, the more you read, the faster you will be able to comprehend without having to pause every 3 seconds to reread.

It took me about 2 minutes to read the whole fucking story. You drool with your mouth open longer than that before you realize you're spitting on yourself.

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I dont think i wanna watch it, but looks like good movie (well, at least not before bedtime)

it sure looks scary!

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I also think it has been here longer than they have said. We got the death end of December and today it dawned on me that about a week after getting it my dog started sneezing and I jokingly told my husband we got so sick we passed it to our dog. Now that seems strange. Idk what are you going to do anyway? Nothing you can much do as you cannot isolate yourself forever.
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I got sick in mid-December around the 20th and just as I was recovering, my indoor cat got sick for 4 days. I was worried about her, she is normally healthy, has all her shots, and never in contact with Any other animals. No fleas, no ear mites, etc. But she was bad sick and it took about 4 days for her to start eating again. Now she's as healthy as can be.
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its just your imagination running wild
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I kinda agree. Think too much and kinda paranoid. It's contradicting to talk on believing Jesus Christ since a person truly believes in Jesus wouldn't worry much on this.

Worrying that you're now a carrier and probably would infect other people and whether you should self-quarantine, all will wreck your mind. When you don't know whether you're infected or not, worrying about it wastes energy. If you worry, then why not just find a way to test whether you're infected if you wanna go through much trouble?

They say, ignorance is a bliss. But some of us who're not ignorant and are aware of the potential pandemic, can still be peaceful not worrying much about what could happen. I do not worry about the virus at all, and would think more on the reaction of the paranoid people who can become irrational and savage out of fear. I watched the video of Wuhan's people pressuring an old lady to wear mask while she didn't want to. People are sick in mind when they're overcome by fear. As if mask can prevent virus, that's just false sense of security. that's why I'd be more watchful on the reaction of the zombiefied people driven by fear. They could kill others out of fear just because of suspicion.
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My god women can turn a simple a simple couple of lines story into a full blown useless rant. Nobody is gonna read that story that is 70% about you, your social standing and how important you are to a heap of unimportant people. Loose the ego and the life story, nobody gives a fuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78433097


This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75635070


Can anyone summarize... I read about 3 paragraphs and gave up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75054451


The world needs this deadly virus. FFS, the more you read, the faster you will be able to comprehend without having to pause every 3 seconds to reread.

It took me about 2 minutes to read the whole fucking story. You drool with your mouth open longer than that before you realize you're spitting on yourself.

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My god women can turn a simple a simple couple of lines story into a full blown useless rant. Nobody is gonna read that story that is 70% about you, your social standing and how important you are to a heap of unimportant people. Loose the ego and the life story, nobody gives a fuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78433097


This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75635070


Can anyone summarize... I read about 3 paragraphs and gave up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75054451


The world needs this deadly virus. FFS, the more you read, the faster you will be able to comprehend without having to pause every 3 seconds to reread.

It took me about 2 minutes to read the whole fucking story. You drool with your mouth open longer than that before you realize you're spitting on yourself.

END
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Whoa, no kidding, what a bunch of brain-dead morons!

I was glued to the OPs story like one of the best books I've ever read!

Took very little time to read AND COMPREHEND.
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Well I hope the OP is alright and everything, but most people don't get the virus, right?

In other words I'd say my chances of being fine are pretty good.
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Thanks for all of your replies and well wishes. I sure hope it's nothing! The first thing my husband said (after stepping slowly back away from me) was that I need to call our local health department and report what I learned today. I do feel an obligation to do that at least. But, really what can they do? Especially since most are towing the government line on this. SO frustrating!
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Local HDs can be inefficient. Perhaps email, or at least write, the HD and the CDC. You may save lives. If you are a religious person, maybe God is working through you.
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The account below details a personal encounter I had today while at work. Sorry for the length but I am trying to process this while I recount it. I still can't believe it!

My husband and I have been camped out on the Coronavirus thread since third week of January when news of it first broke. We have watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter post before it got deleted. It prompted us to go and top off our preps, sit down with our teenager boys and have "that" talk and decide to avoid the public as much as possible. We live in a small town on the outskirts of Asheville in the mountains of Western North Carolina and felt like we were somewhat safe, same as many of you. That was...TIL TODAY!

My husband has taken this seriously enough to begin working from home but I can't do that yet. So today, I visited a local High School in Asheville as part of my job. While there, an older gentleman approached me and introduced himself. We shook hands and he proceeded to tell me that his only daughter had a former connection with my employer. I asked him what she is doing now and he said she works as a music teacher in Shanghai, China. That got my attention.

I asked him if she was reporting any news to him about this pandemic and he said he didn't know much about it to ask because our news wasn't making that big of a deal about it. He said all she knew about it was that she had just gotten back into China from a week-long trip to the UK to discover that her school was shut down until March so she and her husband (also a teacher in Shanghai) are just holed up in their apartment with their young son self-isolating like everyone else. So either their news isn't telling them much or she is downplaying it for your dad's sake (which is probably most likely). Either way, my heart goes out to him, his daughter and her family but I am still thinking I am safe.

Then he goes on to say that she and her husband and several people from her school in Shanghai had just flown to the UK on or about January 20th along with teachers from all over China (Wuhan, Beijing, etc.) for a global recruiting seminar to find job placement in other "Ambassador Schools" (I am convinced at this point that they were part of the group of around 2,000 from China that the UK are looking for). He said the Chinese principal from the school where his daughter works decided to stay an extra few days in the UK to tour and is now stuck in quarantine for two weeks and can't get back. His daughter and son-in-law got out just before the UK quarantine. I am very intrigued at this point because I had just been reading about the Chinese in the UK on GLP and so far, everything he is telling me is happening either in China or the UK. Sucks for them but I am still feeling confident that I am safe.

Now, mind you, I have not let on to him that I am somewhat of a self-proclaimed Coronavirus "expert". Like most of you, I have lurked on the GLP CV thread and watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter feed posted out of China. I can hold my own in a conversation about this with my new working knowledge of RO levels, infectious rates of travel and virus incubation periods. I could probably even take and pass an exam on basic epidemiology after all the experts I have listened to on this subject in the past week. But with him and while at work, I am playing it cool.

I can tell he obviously has no idea of the importance of what he is telling me and I don't want to alarm him about the potential his only daughter and her family could be facing. I also get the impression he only knows what CNN and the MSM tell him so anything I say to the contrary wouldn't resonate with his normalcy bias anyway and I would just come across as a crazy person. You need time to ease people into discussions about what could very well be the end of the world as we know it and I didn't have alot of time today to get into it. I just wanted to ask a few semi-probing questions for the GLP thread I knew I was going to come back here and write when I got home from work...and, at this point, I still felt safe.

I was not prepared for what he said next! As he continued with his stream of thought, he stated that the day or two before his daughter flew from China to the UK, his WIFE flew from Asheville to China to babysit their grandson in Shanghai. She arrived there on or about January 19 and remained there until their daughter returned from the UK (on or around last Tuesday, January 28). His wife then flew back into the US from China and arrived back in Asheville on Wednesday, the 29th. No screening, no questions, no nothing. She got home, visited with him for a few days and then left again this past weekend to drive to Myrtle Beach where they have a house under renovation. She was scheduled to meet this week with several contractors about the renovations....blah...blah...blah...

He is droning on about these renovations but all I could think was...
waitwhat
BACK UP! Your wife just flew here from China?


"GOOD FEELING GONE!" blink His wife has been in China during this outbreak and flew back into the US on an airbus with God knows WHO ELSE from China! She hopped a connecting flight in Dallas and came directly HERE! Then after a few days here, drove to the beach in South Carolina to meet with more people! She HAS to have been in contact with someone infected for the week she was in China or on the flight out of China to the US OR, at the VERY least, from her own daughter and son-in-law who just took a trip with several from around China, including Wuhan, and who has a colleague CURRENTLY IN QUARANTINE in the UK! After being in China for over a week, you KNOW she at least greeted her husband with a kiss when she got back home to Asheville. With a high RO of approx. 4.08, if she's got it then HE's got it and HE. JUST. SHOOK. MY. HAND.
damned (this is hitting way too close to home!)

My jaw is on the floor at this point in the conversation and he is still talking. I am trying to get my head around what he has just told me as he goes on to say that he teaches 3 classes a day at this local high school (population of approx. 1300 students) and each class has around 30 different students. According to him, some of his students are star basketball players who had a big home game this past weekend with another school in our area and it was kind of a big deal so there was a huge turnout for the game. blah...blah...blah.

I can hear him talking but my mind is reeling at this point and all I can think is how many has she been in touch with since she got back from her trip and drove on to South Carolina? And, furthermore, how many has HE been in touch with since his wife got home from her trip. It has been nearly a week and, if she has it, you know she is highly contagious and may not even be aware yet! In fact, he even bragged that if she had waiting a couple extra days to come back, she would be in quarantine at a military base right now but NOPE! She got back early. WooHoo! huffy

I am running the numbers in my head...If she is infected but currently asymptomatic and contagious and he has direct contact with her and comes to work at a high school with 1300 students, 90 of which have direct contact with him in class (not even to mention what door knobs he has touched, etc.), some of which students played in a big home game this past weekend where a sweaty basketball was passed around with students from another local high school...You see where I am going with this?!?

Yesterday, I didn't know ANYONE from China as we have a very small Asian population in Asheville and thought the chances I would encounter anyone from China or anyone directly connected with anyone from China were slim to none. I felt safe. My Community felt safe. And now this evening, my husband is joking about making me sleep in our guest bedroom for the next 14 days and I am considering it! All because my job took me to a "petrie dish" today that may or may not have included the dreaded CORONAVIRUS! WTH!!!

All concern for myself aside, I am thinking of all of those students and faculty at the school who probably have no idea what may or may not be lying on their doorstep. I have a good mind to call the school tomorrow (anonymously of course) and tell them what I have just told you. But, really, what good would it do? At this point, they would have to quarantine everyone there, AND their families, AND the rival team that came to that school for the BB game and THEIR families... This is out of our hands and we are already far behind the ball on this! sigh

Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. I am really not a fearful person, despite my over use of exclamation points in this thread. I am just frustrated that the lack of info on this topic and lack of serious reporting by our government officials and MSM could doom us all! Those few of us trying to keep track of this can only wake up those closest to us and even some of those choose to believe the MSM and government over us.

It won't be easy for any of us to come to terms with this new reality but we need to start processing the strong possibility that our world is actually very small and made smaller still with constant air travel. This thing is here. Not coming...HERE!
Otherwise, just when you think you are safe and it's not in your area, someone with a direct personal link to this pandemic walks right up to you and shakes your hand!

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Final important note...If you don't know Jesus Christ as your Savior, you might want to get on that. If what we are hearing and seeing out of China is truly now here, alot of us folks and many we know are about to meet Him!
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This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75635070


Can anyone summarize... I read about 3 paragraphs and gave up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75054451


The world needs this deadly virus. FFS, the more you read, the faster you will be able to comprehend without having to pause every 3 seconds to reread.

It took me about 2 minutes to read the whole fucking story. You drool with your mouth open longer than that before you realize you're spitting on yourself.

END
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Whoa, no kidding, what a bunch of brain-dead morons!

I was glued to the OPs story like one of the best books I've ever read!

Took very little time to read AND COMPREHEND.
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It was a great story, and like someone else in the thread already said. She's a good writer.
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My god women can turn a simple a simple couple of lines story into a full blown useless rant. Nobody is gonna read that story that is 70% about you, your social standing and how important you are to a heap of unimportant people. Loose the ego and the life story, nobody gives a fuck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78433097


This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75635070


Can anyone summarize... I read about 3 paragraphs and gave up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75054451


The world needs this deadly virus. FFS, the more you read, the faster you will be able to comprehend without having to pause every 3 seconds to reread.

It took me about 2 minutes to read the whole fucking story. You drool with your mouth open longer than that before you realize you're spitting on yourself.

END
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Hahah I had a feeling there was no point in trying to read that
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oh wow just found out

the ONLY MEDICAL WAY
......genetically

to get rid of 2019 CoV...

step 1 whip out your dong

step 2 plug in the toaster and set to full char

step 3 insert liberally your member into said toaster.

works for 96% of cases
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yup, it's on like Donkey Kong.
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This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75635070


Can anyone summarize... I read about 3 paragraphs and gave up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75054451


The world needs this deadly virus. FFS, the more you read, the faster you will be able to comprehend without having to pause every 3 seconds to reread.

It took me about 2 minutes to read the whole fucking story. You drool with your mouth open longer than that before you realize you're spitting on yourself.

END
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Whoa, no kidding, what a bunch of brain-dead morons!

I was glued to the OPs story like one of the best books I've ever read!

Took very little time to read AND COMPREHEND.
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It reads like a creative writing assignment. The tells: too many details and story structure.
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sorry to hear but that is obvious to me since the beginning.

for each person ending in the ospital there are at keast 1000 freely running around the globe infecting people.

and it doesn't matter how small or remote your community is.
It's just matter of time.
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The account below details a personal encounter I had today while at work. Sorry for the length but I am trying to process this while I recount it. I still can't believe it!

My husband and I have been camped out on the Coronavirus thread since third week of January when news of it first broke. We have watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter post before it got deleted. It prompted us to go and top off our preps, sit down with our teenager boys and have "that" talk and decide to avoid the public as much as possible. We live in a small town on the outskirts of Asheville in the mountains of Western North Carolina and felt like we were somewhat safe, same as many of you. That was...TIL TODAY!

My husband has taken this seriously enough to begin working from home but I can't do that yet. So today, I visited a local High School in Asheville as part of my job. While there, an older gentleman approached me and introduced himself. We shook hands and he proceeded to tell me that his only daughter had a former connection with my employer. I asked him what she is doing now and he said she works as a music teacher in Shanghai, China. That got my attention.

I asked him if she was reporting any news to him about this pandemic and he said he didn't know much about it to ask because our news wasn't making that big of a deal about it. He said all she knew about it was that she had just gotten back into China from a week-long trip to the UK to discover that her school was shut down until March so she and her husband (also a teacher in Shanghai) are just holed up in their apartment with their young son self-isolating like everyone else. So either their news isn't telling them much or she is downplaying it for your dad's sake (which is probably most likely). Either way, my heart goes out to him, his daughter and her family but I am still thinking I am safe.

Then he goes on to say that she and her husband and several people from her school in Shanghai had just flown to the UK on or about January 20th along with teachers from all over China (Wuhan, Beijing, etc.) for a global recruiting seminar to find job placement in other "Ambassador Schools" (I am convinced at this point that they were part of the group of around 2,000 from China that the UK are looking for). He said the Chinese principal from the school where his daughter works decided to stay an extra few days in the UK to tour and is now stuck in quarantine for two weeks and can't get back. His daughter and son-in-law got out just before the UK quarantine. I am very intrigued at this point because I had just been reading about the Chinese in the UK on GLP and so far, everything he is telling me is happening either in China or the UK. Sucks for them but I am still feeling confident that I am safe.

Now, mind you, I have not let on to him that I am somewhat of a self-proclaimed Coronavirus "expert". Like most of you, I have lurked on the GLP CV thread and watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter feed posted out of China. I can hold my own in a conversation about this with my new working knowledge of RO levels, infectious rates of travel and virus incubation periods. I could probably even take and pass an exam on basic epidemiology after all the experts I have listened to on this subject in the past week. But with him and while at work, I am playing it cool.

I can tell he obviously has no idea of the importance of what he is telling me and I don't want to alarm him about the potential his only daughter and her family could be facing. I also get the impression he only knows what CNN and the MSM tell him so anything I say to the contrary wouldn't resonate with his normalcy bias anyway and I would just come across as a crazy person. You need time to ease people into discussions about what could very well be the end of the world as we know it and I didn't have alot of time today to get into it. I just wanted to ask a few semi-probing questions for the GLP thread I knew I was going to come back here and write when I got home from work...and, at this point, I still felt safe.

I was not prepared for what he said next! As he continued with his stream of though, he stated that the day or two before his daughter flew from China to the UK, his WIFE flew from Asheville to China to babysit their grandson in Shanghai. She arrived there on or about January 19 and remained there until their daughter returned from the UK (on or around last Tuesday, January 28). His wife then flew back into the US from China and arrived back in Asheville on Wednesday, the 29th. No screening, no questions, no nothing. She got home, visited with him for a few days and then left again this past weekend to drive to Myrtle Beach where they have a house under renovation. She was scheduled to meet this week with several contractors about the renovations....blah...blah...blah...

He is droning on about these renovations but all I could think was...
waitwhat
BACK UP! Your wife just flew here from China?


"GOOD FEELING GONE!" blink His wife has been in China during this outbreak and flew back into the US on an airbus with God knows WHO ELSE from China! She hopped a connecting flight in Dallas and came directly HERE! Then after a few days here, drove to the beach in South Carolina to meet with more people! She HAS to have been in contact with someone infected for the week she was in China or on the flight out of China to the US OR, at the VERY least, from her own daughter and son-in-law who just took a trip with several from around China, including Wuhan, and who has a colleague CURRENTLY IN QUARANTINE in the UK! After being in China for over a week, you KNOW she at least greeted her husband with a kiss when she got back home to Asheville. With a high RO of approx. 4.08, if she's got it then HE's got it and HE. JUST. SHOOK. MY. HAND.
damned (this is hitting way too close to home!)

My jaw is on the floor at this point in the conversation and he is still talking. I am trying to get my head around what he has just told me as he goes on to say that he teaches 3 classes a day at this local high school (population of approx. 1300 students) and each class has around 30 different students. According to him, some of his students are star basketball players who had a big home game this past weekend with another school in our area and it was kind of a big deal so there was a huge turnout for the game. blah...blah...blah.

I can hear him talking but my mind is reeling at this point and all I can think is how many has she been in touch with since she got back from her trip and drove on to South Carolina? And, furthermore, how many has HE been in touch with since his wife got home from her trip. It has been nearly a week and, if she has it, you know she is highly contagious and may not even be aware yet! In fact, he even bragged that if she had waiting a couple extra days to come back, she would be in quarantine at a military base right now but NOPE! She got back early. WooHoo! huffy

I am running the numbers in my head...If she is infected but currently asymptomatic and contagious and he has direct contact with her and comes to work at a high school with 1300 students, 90 of which have direct contact with him in class (not even to mention what door knobs he has touched, etc.), some of which students played in a big home game this past weekend where a sweaty basketball was passed around with students from another local high school...You see where I am going with this?!?

Yesterday, I didn't know ANYONE from China as we have a very small Asian population in Asheville and thought the chances I would encounter anyone from China or anyone directly connected with anyone from China were slim to none. I felt safe. My Community felt safe. And now this evening, my husband is joking about making me sleep in our guest bedroom for the next 14 days and I am considering it! All because my job took me to a "petrie dish" today that may or may not have included the dreaded CORONAVIRUS! WTH!!!

All concern for myself aside, I am thinking of all of those students and faculty at the school who probably have no idea what may or may not be lying on their doorstep. I have a good mind to call the school tomorrow (anonymously of course) and tell them what I have just told you. But, really, what good would it do? At this point, they would have to quarantine everyone there, AND their families, AND the rival team that came to that school for the BB game and THEIR families... This is out of our hands and we are already far behind the ball on this! sigh

Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. I am really not a fearful person, despite my over use of exclamation points in this thread. I am just frustrated that the lack of info on this topic and lack of serious reporting by our government officials and MSM could doom us all! Those few of us trying to keep track of this can only wake up those closest to us and even some of those choose to believe the MSM and government over us.

It won't be easy for any of us to come to terms with this new reality but we need to start processing the strong possibility that our world is actually very small and made smaller still with constant air travel. This thing is here. Not coming...HERE!
Otherwise, just when you think you are safe and it's not in your area, someone with a direct personal link to this pandemic walks right up to you and shakes your hand!

ops

Final important note...If you don't know Jesus Christ as your Savior, you might want to get on that. If what we are hearing and seeing out of China is truly now here, alot of us folks and many we know are about to meet Him!
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So did you report him and his wife to the CDC?
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She must do that, ASAP...
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The account below details a personal encounter I had today while at work. Sorry for the length but I am trying to process this while I recount it. I still can't believe it!

My husband and I have been camped out on the Coronavirus thread since third week of January when news of it first broke. We have watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter post before it got deleted. It prompted us to go and top off our preps, sit down with our teenager boys and have "that" talk and decide to avoid the public as much as possible. We live in a small town on the outskirts of Asheville in the mountains of Western North Carolina and felt like we were somewhat safe, same as many of you. That was...TIL TODAY!

My husband has taken this seriously enough to begin working from home but I can't do that yet. So today, I visited a local High School in Asheville as part of my job. While there, an older gentleman approached me and introduced himself. We shook hands and he proceeded to tell me that his only daughter had a former connection with my employer. I asked him what she is doing now and he said she works as a music teacher in Shanghai, China. That got my attention.

I asked him if she was reporting any news to him about this pandemic and he said he didn't know much about it to ask because our news wasn't making that big of a deal about it. He said all she knew about it was that she had just gotten back into China from a week-long trip to the UK to discover that her school was shut down until March so she and her husband (also a teacher in Shanghai) are just holed up in their apartment with their young son self-isolating like everyone else. So either their news isn't telling them much or she is downplaying it for your dad's sake (which is probably most likely). Either way, my heart goes out to him, his daughter and her family but I am still thinking I am safe.

Then he goes on to say that she and her husband and several people from her school in Shanghai had just flown to the UK on or about January 20th along with teachers from all over China (Wuhan, Beijing, etc.) for a global recruiting seminar to find job placement in other "Ambassador Schools" (I am convinced at this point that they were part of the group of around 2,000 from China that the UK are looking for). He said the Chinese principal from the school where his daughter works decided to stay an extra few days in the UK to tour and is now stuck in quarantine for two weeks and can't get back. His daughter and son-in-law got out just before the UK quarantine. I am very intrigued at this point because I had just been reading about the Chinese in the UK on GLP and so far, everything he is telling me is happening either in China or the UK. Sucks for them but I am still feeling confident that I am safe.

Now, mind you, I have not let on to him that I am somewhat of a self-proclaimed Coronavirus "expert". Like most of you, I have lurked on the GLP CV thread and watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter feed posted out of China. I can hold my own in a conversation about this with my new working knowledge of RO levels, infectious rates of travel and virus incubation periods. I could probably even take and pass an exam on basic epidemiology after all the experts I have listened to on this subject in the past week. But with him and while at work, I am playing it cool.

I can tell he obviously has no idea of the importance of what he is telling me and I don't want to alarm him about the potential his only daughter and her family could be facing. I also get the impression he only knows what CNN and the MSM tell him so anything I say to the contrary wouldn't resonate with his normalcy bias anyway and I would just come across as a crazy person. You need time to ease people into discussions about what could very well be the end of the world as we know it and I didn't have alot of time today to get into it. I just wanted to ask a few semi-probing questions for the GLP thread I knew I was going to come back here and write when I got home from work...and, at this point, I still felt safe.

I was not prepared for what he said next! As he continued with his stream of thought, he stated that the day or two before his daughter flew from China to the UK, his WIFE flew from Asheville to China to babysit their grandson in Shanghai. She arrived there on or about January 19 and remained there until their daughter returned from the UK (on or around last Tuesday, January 28). His wife then flew back into the US from China and arrived back in Asheville on Wednesday, the 29th. No screening, no questions, no nothing. She got home, visited with him for a few days and then left again this past weekend to drive to Myrtle Beach where they have a house under renovation. She was scheduled to meet this week with several contractors about the renovations....blah...blah...blah...

He is droning on about these renovations but all I could think was...
waitwhat
BACK UP! Your wife just flew here from China?


"GOOD FEELING GONE!" blink His wife has been in China during this outbreak and flew back into the US on an airbus with God knows WHO ELSE from China! She hopped a connecting flight in Dallas and came directly HERE! Then after a few days here, drove to the beach in South Carolina to meet with more people! She HAS to have been in contact with someone infected for the week she was in China or on the flight out of China to the US OR, at the VERY least, from her own daughter and son-in-law who just took a trip with several from around China, including Wuhan, and who has a colleague CURRENTLY IN QUARANTINE in the UK! After being in China for over a week, you KNOW she at least greeted her husband with a kiss when she got back home to Asheville. With a high RO of approx. 4.08, if she's got it then HE's got it and HE. JUST. SHOOK. MY. HAND.
damned (this is hitting way too close to home!)

My jaw is on the floor at this point in the conversation and he is still talking. I am trying to get my head around what he has just told me as he goes on to say that he teaches 3 classes a day at this local high school (population of approx. 1300 students) and each class has around 30 different students. According to him, some of his students are star basketball players who had a big home game this past weekend with another school in our area and it was kind of a big deal so there was a huge turnout for the game. blah...blah...blah.

I can hear him talking but my mind is reeling at this point and all I can think is how many has she been in touch with since she got back from her trip and drove on to South Carolina? And, furthermore, how many has HE been in touch with since his wife got home from her trip. It has been nearly a week and, if she has it, you know she is highly contagious and may not even be aware yet! In fact, he even bragged that if she had waiting a couple extra days to come back, she would be in quarantine at a military base right now but NOPE! She got back early. WooHoo! huffy

I am running the numbers in my head...If she is infected but currently asymptomatic and contagious and he has direct contact with her and comes to work at a high school with 1300 students, 90 of which have direct contact with him in class (not even to mention what door knobs he has touched, etc.), some of which students played in a big home game this past weekend where a sweaty basketball was passed around with students from another local high school...You see where I am going with this?!?

Yesterday, I didn't know ANYONE from China as we have a very small Asian population in Asheville and thought the chances I would encounter anyone from China or anyone directly connected with anyone from China were slim to none. I felt safe. My Community felt safe. And now this evening, my husband is joking about making me sleep in our guest bedroom for the next 14 days and I am considering it! All because my job took me to a "petrie dish" today that may or may not have included the dreaded CORONAVIRUS! WTH!!!

All concern for myself aside, I am thinking of all of those students and faculty at the school who probably have no idea what may or may not be lying on their doorstep. I have a good mind to call the school tomorrow (anonymously of course) and tell them what I have just told you. But, really, what good would it do? At this point, they would have to quarantine everyone there, AND their families, AND the rival team that came to that school for the BB game and THEIR families... This is out of our hands and we are already far behind the ball on this! sigh

Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. I am really not a fearful person, despite my over use of exclamation points in this thread. I am just frustrated that the lack of info on this topic and lack of serious reporting by our government officials and MSM could doom us all! Those few of us trying to keep track of this can only wake up those closest to us and even some of those choose to believe the MSM and government over us.

It won't be easy for any of us to come to terms with this new reality but we need to start processing the strong possibility that our world is actually very small and made smaller still with constant air travel. This thing is here. Not coming...HERE!
Otherwise, just when you think you are safe and it's not in your area, someone with a direct personal link to this pandemic walks right up to you and shakes your hand!

ops

Final important note...If you don't know Jesus Christ as your Savior, you might want to get on that. If what we are hearing and seeing out of China is truly now here, alot of us folks and many we know are about to meet Him!
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wat a lot of woffle
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I think you'll be ok as long as you washed your hands after that handshake lol. And the guy, if sick, wasn't displaying any symptoms. You'll be ok, don't worry.

I hear you though. I'm in Ontario, Canada and we've had 3 confirmed cases so far. Nobody here takes it seriously. My inlaws, who are turning 70 this year and are looking forward to flying across the world and going on a month long cruise in 2 months. They keep encouraging us to also go on a Euro trip even though I have told them that I'm staying put and avoiding airports and planes until this corona business blows over.
They look at me as if I just dismembered and ate an infant in front of them. How dare I try to ruin their travel fun by taking about something negative like a deadly virus. They think it's just a common cold. They are completely delusional and refuse to acknowledge anything that doesn't agree with their life style.

But of course they will be the first ones to stand in line for the vaccine when it comes out. They get vaccinated for everything under the sun every year and then wonder why they have strange unexplained health issues that put them in the hospital every year. Dumb people.
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Ugh, this is so frustrating! I’m in the same situation! My two daughters, 22 and 25 are going to CARNIVAL in RIO D Jenero (so) in less than 3 weeks! I’m freaking out, try to tell them to get insurance if they need to cancel, asking them if they will reconsider if we get more cases, trying to explain how serious it is, and all they do is say how the news is saying it’s not even as bad as the flu! WTF?? I do not understand why the news and CDC is trying so hard to keep people from worrying. It’s a big f***ng deal! Maybe if people would worry they would get prepared! You don’t quarantine 60 million people over the flu! My whole family and friends all think I’m being crazy so I’m just topping off preps without them knowing. I did say there will come a time when no one is coming or going from our property and I sure as hell hope you are here when it shits down!:(
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ops

Final important note...If you don't know Jesus Christ as your Savior, you might want to get on that. If what we are hearing and seeing out of China is truly now here, alot of us folks and many we know are about to meet Him!


Well said!!
98t
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“All is well”

Trump said it’s completely under control and that he trusts President Xi Jinping

Trust the plan

Winning!
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12D chessmaster. Beat the chopsticks by being beaten by them. Genius.
Welcome to Trumps America flag waver
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This, exactly. So very typical of a facebook american.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75635070


Can anyone summarize... I read about 3 paragraphs and gave up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75054451


The world needs this deadly virus. FFS, the more you read, the faster you will be able to comprehend without having to pause every 3 seconds to reread.

It took me about 2 minutes to read the whole fucking story. You drool with your mouth open longer than that before you realize you're spitting on yourself.

END
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Whoa, no kidding, what a bunch of brain-dead morons!

I was glued to the OPs story like one of the best books I've ever read!

Took very little time to read AND COMPREHEND.
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This! Me too :-)
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its just your imagination running wild
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FYI, there's a 5 to 6 day incubation time before somebody is infectious. If all events took place within a week, it should be okay.
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What a well written, doomy post. Thank you for taking the time.
5 stars and green...
There's never a dull moment here on planet earth, unless GLP ceased to exist...

Oh, and Biden can't dress himself....
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Following.

Keep updated. Take temp readings daily.
Hydrate with real electrolytes now.
Probiotics.
Alkaline diet.
Intermittent fasting.
Abdominal breathing to oxygenate.
No sugar or alcohol till sure you are cleared.

Praying for your family.
Ronin
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I know they don’t like to prescribe it but that antibiotic and albuteral inhaler literally saved my life. Insist on an antibiotic.
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Antibiotics do nothing for a virus. People like you are the reason for antibiotic resistant superbugs.
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Often, a bacterial infection occurs on top of the viral infection. So antibiotics are often needed anyway.
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We are in a very serious situation, hopefully, there is no infection for you to worry about there is still a chance of that to consider. Not fun to get that inside your head.
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I agree. I am not afraid but really, what do you do? I have appointments at work all week to go to other area schools. Should I assume I have it and self-quarantine or continue like all is normal and find out later I hedged my bets wrong? I don't want to be the one that took it from this school to 9 others in the next two weeks! blink

And thanks for the pin, Mods!
hf
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Thank you for telling your story. We all need a dose of reality and this was it in the face. No one takes this seriously.

Also, in my opinion. It's easy to feel silly with so many people acting like no big deal, but I do think you should tell what you know to the school, if not someone higher up.
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The account below details a personal encounter I had today while at work. Sorry for the length but I am trying to process this while I recount it. I still can't believe it!

My husband and I have been camped out on the Coronavirus thread since third week of January when news of it first broke. We have watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter post before it got deleted. It prompted us to go and top off our preps, sit down with our teenager boys and have "that" talk and decide to avoid the public as much as possible. We live in a small town on the outskirts of Asheville in the mountains of Western North Carolina and felt like we were somewhat safe, same as many of you. That was...TIL TODAY!

My husband has taken this seriously enough to begin working from home but I can't do that yet. So today, I visited a local High School in Asheville as part of my job. While there, an older gentleman approached me and introduced himself. We shook hands and he proceeded to tell me that his only daughter had a former connection with my employer. I asked him what she is doing now and he said she works as a music teacher in Shanghai, China. That got my attention.

I asked him if she was reporting any news to him about this pandemic and he said he didn't know much about it to ask because our news wasn't making that big of a deal about it. He said all she knew about it was that she had just gotten back into China from a week-long trip to the UK to discover that her school was shut down until March so she and her husband (also a teacher in Shanghai) are just holed up in their apartment with their young son self-isolating like everyone else. So either their news isn't telling them much or she is downplaying it for your dad's sake (which is probably most likely). Either way, my heart goes out to him, his daughter and her family but I am still thinking I am safe.

Then he goes on to say that she and her husband and several people from her school in Shanghai had just flown to the UK on or about January 20th along with teachers from all over China (Wuhan, Beijing, etc.) for a global recruiting seminar to find job placement in other "Ambassador Schools" (I am convinced at this point that they were part of the group of around 2,000 from China that the UK are looking for). He said the Chinese principal from the school where his daughter works decided to stay an extra few days in the UK to tour and is now stuck in quarantine for two weeks and can't get back. His daughter and son-in-law got out just before the UK quarantine. I am very intrigued at this point because I had just been reading about the Chinese in the UK on GLP and so far, everything he is telling me is happening either in China or the UK. Sucks for them but I am still feeling confident that I am safe.

Now, mind you, I have not let on to him that I am somewhat of a self-proclaimed Coronavirus "expert". Like most of you, I have lurked on the GLP CV thread and watched every video of every expert and seen every twitter feed posted out of China. I can hold my own in a conversation about this with my new working knowledge of RO levels, infectious rates of travel and virus incubation periods. I could probably even take and pass an exam on basic epidemiology after all the experts I have listened to on this subject in the past week. But with him and while at work, I am playing it cool.

I can tell he obviously has no idea of the importance of what he is telling me and I don't want to alarm him about the potential his only daughter and her family could be facing. I also get the impression he only knows what CNN and the MSM tell him so anything I say to the contrary wouldn't resonate with his normalcy bias anyway and I would just come across as a crazy person. You need time to ease people into discussions about what could very well be the end of the world as we know it and I didn't have alot of time today to get into it. I just wanted to ask a few semi-probing questions for the GLP thread I knew I was going to come back here and write when I got home from work...and, at this point, I still felt safe.

I was not prepared for what he said next! As he continued with his stream of thought, he stated that the day or two before his daughter flew from China to the UK, his WIFE flew from Asheville to China to babysit their grandson in Shanghai. She arrived there on or about January 19 and remained there until their daughter returned from the UK (on or around last Tuesday, January 28). His wife then flew back into the US from China and arrived back in Asheville on Wednesday, the 29th. No screening, no questions, no nothing. She got home, visited with him for a few days and then left again this past weekend to drive to Myrtle Beach where they have a house under renovation. She was scheduled to meet this week with several contractors about the renovations....blah...blah...blah...

He is droning on about these renovations but all I could think was...
waitwhat
BACK UP! Your wife just flew here from China?


"GOOD FEELING GONE!" blink His wife has been in China during this outbreak and flew back into the US on an airbus with God knows WHO ELSE from China! She hopped a connecting flight in Dallas and came directly HERE! Then after a few days here, drove to the beach in South Carolina to meet with more people! She HAS to have been in contact with someone infected for the week she was in China or on the flight out of China to the US OR, at the VERY least, from her own daughter and son-in-law who just took a trip with several from around China, including Wuhan, and who has a colleague CURRENTLY IN QUARANTINE in the UK! After being in China for over a week, you KNOW she at least greeted her husband with a kiss when she got back home to Asheville. With a high RO of approx. 4.08, if she's got it then HE's got it and HE. JUST. SHOOK. MY. HAND.
damned (this is hitting way too close to home!)

My jaw is on the floor at this point in the conversation and he is still talking. I am trying to get my head around what he has just told me as he goes on to say that he teaches 3 classes a day at this local high school (population of approx. 1300 students) and each class has around 30 different students. According to him, some of his students are star basketball players who had a big home game this past weekend with another school in our area and it was kind of a big deal so there was a huge turnout for the game. blah...blah...blah.

I can hear him talking but my mind is reeling at this point and all I can think is how many has she been in touch with since she got back from her trip and drove on to South Carolina? And, furthermore, how many has HE been in touch with since his wife got home from her trip. It has been nearly a week and, if she has it, you know she is highly contagious and may not even be aware yet! In fact, he even bragged that if she had waiting a couple extra days to come back, she would be in quarantine at a military base right now but NOPE! She got back early. WooHoo! huffy

I am running the numbers in my head...If she is infected but currently asymptomatic and contagious and he has direct contact with her and comes to work at a high school with 1300 students, 90 of which have direct contact with him in class (not even to mention what door knobs he has touched, etc.), some of which students played in a big home game this past weekend where a sweaty basketball was passed around with students from another local high school...You see where I am going with this?!?

Yesterday, I didn't know ANYONE from China as we have a very small Asian population in Asheville and thought the chances I would encounter anyone from China or anyone directly connected with anyone from China were slim to none. I felt safe. My Community felt safe. And now this evening, my husband is joking about making me sleep in our guest bedroom for the next 14 days and I am considering it! All because my job took me to a "petrie dish" today that may or may not have included the dreaded CORONAVIRUS! WTH!!!

All concern for myself aside, I am thinking of all of those students and faculty at the school who probably have no idea what may or may not be lying on their doorstep. I have a good mind to call the school tomorrow (anonymously of course) and tell them what I have just told you. But, really, what good would it do? At this point, they would have to quarantine everyone there, AND their families, AND the rival team that came to that school for the BB game and THEIR families... This is out of our hands and we are already far behind the ball on this! sigh

Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. I am really not a fearful person, despite my over use of exclamation points in this thread. I am just frustrated that the lack of info on this topic and lack of serious reporting by our government officials and MSM could doom us all! Those few of us trying to keep track of this can only wake up those closest to us and even some of those choose to believe the MSM and government over us.

It won't be easy for any of us to come to terms with this new reality but we need to start processing the strong possibility that our world is actually very small and made smaller still with constant air travel. This thing is here. Not coming...HERE!
Otherwise, just when you think you are safe and it's not in your area, someone with a direct personal link to this pandemic walks right up to you and shakes your hand!

ops

Final important note...If you don't know Jesus Christ as your Savior, you might want to get on that. If what we are hearing and seeing out of China is truly now here, alot of us folks and many we know are about to meet Him!
 Quoting: **Watcher**


Yes, the Intro paragraph is long...but very well presented
and you state your concerns in an articulate way that is
easy to read. And, yes..."buffing up" one's spiritual side
is always good advice when dealing with something this
life-altering.

Personal reports for me are the "real meat" of these
informative threads on the corona virus and I too have
been "glued on the threads" on this--feeling very concerned
about what is next. Your report really touched my heart.


As far as reporting this man and his family to the
CDC or anyone...I would really sit down and talk to your
husband in a sober conversation and think about all the
ramifications for YOU PERSONALLY.

For example, reporting him COULD BACK-FIRE on to you and
your family--you could even lose your job over this and
nobody is reporting any CONFIRMED illnesses yet. (You might
keep track of the sports teams, for example, and just see
if anyone comes up with symptoms in the next couple of days.)

You might also discuss this with your personal doctor...who
HOPEFULLY has been "clued-in" on the corona virus situation
in Asheville, N.C. and might be able to give you guidance
on how to proceed through MEDICAL CHANNELS rather than
to bring in the folks around the school administration who
might not even know the whole "skinny" of what's going on.
(I'd personally defer to speaking with a trusted doctor
...it is also LEGALLY BINDING with your doctor to keep
your information private...you could brainstorm with him.)

Just off the top of my head, kiddo...I would be extremely
concerned and just for safety's sake ASSUME you have been
exposed to an asymptomatic person with the virus. THAT way
at least your family can take precautions until you figure
out all the ins and outs of this thing. Extra hand-washing
lots of attention to "cross contamination" between you
and those around you is NOT going to extremes at all.

We are ALL going to be making choices and decisions that
are completely OUT OF OUR COMFORT ZONE...but I'd error
on the side of caution just the same.

Prayers up for you and your family...and thank you for
making this "virus thing" much more PERSONAL than just
the vidoes. Your report brings up many things we are all
wondering about.

Keep us posted please. And don't be afraid to ask for
help from the GLP community.

Blessings!
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