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User ID: 75561499 United States 02/05/2020 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally And just like that.... The same sniveling socialists who cried "No One is Above the LAW" are all certain that drunken Nancy now is...... just sayin' Last Edited by SinceBeforeQhadaName on 02/05/2020 10:09 PM TS with no middle D |
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(OP) User ID: 78275275 United States 02/05/2020 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] Thank you for injecting some sanity. Its cool for Trump to leverage U.S. aid money to "encourage" a foreign leader to investigate one of Trump's political rivals, but tearing up a speech? immediate arrest. that's treason. Are you saying that running for political office absolves you from any crimes or investigations for crimes you may have committed? DeplorableOldMan |
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User ID: 70661134 United States 02/05/2020 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally She can't claim she did it spontaneously in the height of frustration since she was ripping the papers under the desk and putting paperclips on them throughout the speech. It was premeditated. |
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User ID: 75561499 United States 02/05/2020 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] Thank you for injecting some sanity. Its cool for Trump to leverage U.S. aid money to "encourage" a foreign leader to investigate one of Trump's political rivals, but tearing up a speech? immediate arrest. that's treason. Are you saying that running for political office absolves you from any crimes or investigations for crimes you may have committed? I'm pretty sure the sniveling socialists are staying true to form and "feel" that if they can Quote some overly emotional opinions of other sniveling socialists.... Then no "Real" Historic or Legal FACTS are needed 1) Wash 2) Rinse 3) Repeat TS with no middle D |
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(OP) User ID: 78275275 United States 02/05/2020 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] Thank you for injecting some sanity. Its cool for Trump to leverage U.S. aid money to "encourage" a foreign leader to investigate one of Trump's political rivals, but tearing up a speech? immediate arrest. that's treason. Are you saying that running for political office absolves you from any crimes or investigations for crimes you may have committed? I'm pretty sure the sniveling socialists are staying true to form and "feel" that if they can Quote some overly emotional opinions of other sniveling socialists.... Then no "Real" Historic or Legal FACTS are needed 1) Wash 2) Rinse 3) Repeat Typical DeplorableOldMan |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77801141 Spain 02/05/2020 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally She did this right in front of Attorney General William Barr. If the Attorney General does not follow through with prosecuting her for this there is no rule of law in America. Quoting: DeplorableOldMan We want equal justice for all! Well Barr didn't do SHIT about Comey stealing and leaking GOV docs and PRIVATE conversations with the President, when Comey admitted UNDER OATH ON NATIONAL TV. Barr hasn't DONE SHIT about the LEAKER that worked with SCHIFFTHEAD for VIOLATION of US LAW leaking a classified conversion of a US Prez with another World Leader. Barr ain't doing shit....fire HIS ASS and put Greg Garrett or Mark Levin or Joe DeGenova in as AG. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76799292 United States 02/05/2020 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally Nice try but a copy of the speech is not any official document. Un pin this thread wasn't very well thought out. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75173234 Oops .... someones a little bitter and butt-hurt AmIRight? I for one, love Trump. But there's no way tearing up a copy of that speech was a crime, that law is talking about one of a kind official documents. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States 02/05/2020 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] This might be true if she was only a democrat congresswoman from California. However She is the Speaker of the House and as such the president is required to give her an official copy of The State of the Union address so that it can be entered into the National Archives for the Office of the Speaker of the House. That is in the US constitution. Article 2 - The Executive Branch Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States. You will note that it is a requirement that the President gives the congress the information on the State of the Union and that it is the President that decides when they attend his State of the Union address. Speaker Pelosi has tried to prevent the President from giving the State of Union address. [link to www.theatlantic.com (secure)] like just last year... "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, in a letter to the president on Wednesday, suggested that the annual speech before Congress be postponed or scrapped altogether in light of the legislative impasse that has led to the ongoing shutdown, the longest in U.S. history." This is the first time she has destroyed the actual State of the Union address, the Constitution requires the President to deliver to the Congress. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78323780 United States 02/05/2020 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally The state of the Union speech in not only a formal process,it has required rules to follow each year. The address fulfills the requirement in Article II, Section 3, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution for the President to periodically "give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." The record of the meeting proves the president fulfilled his duty to congress. What she tore up was the majorities party record of said speech,in writing.And did it publicly,in a first in American history. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78323780 United States 02/05/2020 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] This might be true if she was only a democrat congresswoman from California. However She is the Speaker of the House and as such the president is required to give her an official copy of The State of the Union address so that it can be entered into the National Archives for the Office of the Speaker of the House. That is in the US constitution. Article 2 - The Executive Branch Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States. You will note that it is a requirement that the President gives the congress the information on the State of the Union and that it is the President that decides when they attend his State of the Union address. Speaker Pelosi has tried to prevent the President from giving the State of Union address. [link to www.theatlantic.com (secure)] like just last year... "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, in a letter to the president on Wednesday, suggested that the annual speech before Congress be postponed or scrapped altogether in light of the legislative impasse that has led to the ongoing shutdown, the longest in U.S. history." This is the first time she has destroyed the actual State of the Union address, the Constitution requires the President to deliver to the Congress. Nailed it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74322544 United States 02/05/2020 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally "Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property." Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat further... Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files. "They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said. [link to www.politifact.com (secure)] politifact... roflmao. what no snopes link? |
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User ID: 75561499 United States 02/05/2020 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally The state of the Union speech in not only a formal process,it has required rules to follow each year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78323780 The address fulfills the requirement in Article II, Section 3, Clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution for the President to periodically "give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." The record of the meeting proves the president fulfilled his duty to congress. What she tore up was the majorities party record of said speech,in writing.And did it publicly,in a first in American history. It's completely Unfair and mean spirited to use actual Laws and Facts when disputing the opinions of overly emotional sniveling socialists. .. Now you guy's better start playing nice TS with no middle D |
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User ID: 78143201 New Zealand 02/05/2020 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. Quoting: DeplorableOldMan (b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.) [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did! Throw her in prison! Pretty damn "cut and dried" evidence. Mind you given what we have seen from the Crooked Dems & the DNC DEEP STATE media they will be out there vigourously defending their witch.....um the "squad"....probably not so much. The Lone Ranger “Time is free, but it's priceless. You can't own it, but you can use it. You can't keep it, but you can spend it. Once you've lost it you can never get it back.” Harvey MacKay. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75173205 United States 02/05/2020 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. Quoting: DeplorableOldMan (b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.) [link to www.law.cornell.edu (secure)] We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did! Throw her in prison! Sigh, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74077643 United States 02/05/2020 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally I brought this up last night and started a petition to investigate her today. [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] The petition has its own thread Thread: Petition to investigate Nancy Pelosi for destruction of government document I'm not trying to hijack your thread. I'm only wanting everyone who's in favor of Pelosi being investigated to please sign the petition. |
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(OP) User ID: 78275275 United States 02/05/2020 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally I brought this up last night and started a petition to investigate her today. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74077643 [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] The petition has its own thread Thread: Petition to investigate Nancy Pelosi for destruction of government document I'm not trying to hijack your thread. I'm only wanting everyone who's in favor of Pelosi being investigated to please sign the petition. DeplorableOldMan |