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GAME OVER!!! Pelosi is guilty of breaking 18 U.S. Code 2071.Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

 
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"Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property."

further...

Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files.

"They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said.

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Ok fatty. Norespect

I'd rather hear it from the Justice Department.
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I concur. I'd rather hear it from the Justice Department.
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Put her ass in jail for 3 years!
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You meant 30 years didn't you?
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...


If were up to the Pelosis of the world, it would be just like North Korea.
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Well it aint... so ppl need to wipe the sand outta their vaginas and move on.
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Do you actually believe that the law is for some and not for others?
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I'm saying she did it hoping to get ppl worked up, and damn it did the job. Everyone is playing her game of drama.
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Hopefully she gets the justice department worked up enough to file charges against her, then she will get her wish.
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She can be censured for violating rules of decorum.


Gingrich: Censure Nancy Pelosi for Tearing Up Trump's SOTU Speech
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This was my first thought as well. 200+ (? Did SOTU start that long ago?) years of tradition down the drain.
Careful! They are listening!

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If there is one thing we have learned in the last few decades is that these people are untouchable
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
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"...filed or deposited with any clerk or officer..."

Loopholes. Always with the loopholes.
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Pelousi is the officer. In fact, it is the job of the Speaker to keep official records.
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Put her ass in jail for 3 years!
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If there is one thing we have learned in the last few decades is that these people are untouchable
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This is exactly why we need the Department of Justice to act on this.

The American people have lost all faith in our judicial system.

If faith is ever to be restored among the American people Justice Must Be Served.
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If it was THE official House FedGov document that was expected to be archived and preserved as THE record of history, then yes, she needs to be arrested by the Sgt. at Arms.

I believe it was a courtesy copy, like what the VP had, but I haven't read of the facts either way.
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It was. McCarthy said he had to go the WH today and request another copy and get it signed by the President to replace the one she tore up. He then took it to the House and requested it be filed in the official records.

He wouldn't have had to do this except for Nancy's actions.
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If it was THE official House FedGov document that was expected to be archived and preserved as THE record of history, then yes, she needs to be arrested by the Sgt. at Arms.

I believe it was a courtesy copy, like what the VP had, but I haven't read of the facts either way.
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It was. McCarthy said he had to go the WH today and request another copy and get it signed by the President to replace the one she tore up. He then took it to the House and requested it be filed in the official records.

He wouldn't have had to do this except for Nancy's actions.
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This, along with video that millions of people saw, is documented proof a crime has been committed.
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"Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property."

further...

Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files.

"They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said.

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Wrong. Maybe for members of Congress, but not the Speaker of the House. She is the official record keeper. She destroyed an official SIGNED RECORD of the State of the Union that was personally delivered to her.
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Exactly, it is a matter of important historical record.

My stalker walked into our local courthouse records, impersonated me, proceeded to request a court file of importance, after receiving right there and then removed and put in her bag some of the copies of records and ripped up others not aware she was being filmed and watched by clerk recorder.

My documents were of minor relevance, the SOTU address is profoundly important history, all copies. This lunatic chick, from a very wealthy family, got thrown in jail for this, among other things, but that charge stuck and it was serious time and years of probation.

I think Nancy deserves some kind of punishment for her very public crime.
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"Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property."

further...

Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files.

"They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said.

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 Quoting: Lower-Back-Fat


Thank you for injecting some sanity.

Its cool for Trump to leverage U.S. aid money to "encourage" a foreign leader to investigate one of Trump's political rivals, but tearing up a speech? immediate arrest. that's treason.
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Why don't you cite the law that Trump broke? The Dems seem to have left that out of the impeachment articles.

As far as Nancy's actions go, there is an actual law she broke. It's in the title of this thread!
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"Her copy of the State of the Union address is not a government record or government property at all," said Douglas Cox, professor of law at the City of New York University School of Law and an expert in the laws governing the preservation of government records. "It is personal property."

further...

Under House rules, members of Congress are encouraged to preserve records or donate them to a research institution for historical study, Cox said. Unlike congressional committees, members are not legally required to hold onto their office’s files.

"They can keep them private, they can destroy them, or they can rip them up," he said.

[link to www.politifact.com (secure)]
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Thank you for injecting some sanity.

Its cool for Trump to leverage U.S. aid money to "encourage" a foreign leader to investigate one of Trump's political rivals, but tearing up a speech? immediate arrest. that's treason.
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If Biden and his son are committing a crime with a foreign country,he has every right to have them investigate.
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If the copy she had was signed by POTUS it could very well be considered an official document.


Aside from that I'd like to purchase the panties she was wearing during the SOTU address. Unwashed of course...
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This makes us look weak.

We just had 2 huge wins and don't need to get petty like this.
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willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

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We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did!

Throw her in prison!
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The guy who has a trial with no witnesses was guilty your an idiot.
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18 witnesses testified before Schiff's committee in his top secret bunker in the Capitol basement.

The testimony of 17 of those 18 witnesses was given to the senate as evidence.

Don't lie.
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Are you serious he was tried with no witnesses or evidence that is a documented fact idiot
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This makes us look weak.

We just had 2 huge wins and don't need to get petty like this.
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No, it makes them look insane and stupid.
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Nice try but a copy of the speech is not any official document. Un pin this thread wasn't very well thought out.
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It was signed by the President. Yes, it was official. Didn't you see the nice binder it was presented in?
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Put her ass in jail for 3 years!
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Only if she is in general population and has a cellmate named "Large Marge".
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this made me lol
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willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

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We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did!

Throw her in prison!
 Quoting: DeplorableOldMan


The guy who has a trial with no witnesses was guilty your an idiot.
 Quoting: Lulz 78216751


18 witnesses testified before Schiff's committee in his top secret bunker in the Capitol basement.

The testimony of 17 of those 18 witnesses was given to the senate as evidence.

Don't lie.
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Are you serious he was tried with no witnesses or evidence that is a documented fact idiot
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Seventeen of the eighteen documented witness testimonies were provided on video to the Senate Impeachment Trial. If the prosecution wished for more witnesses they could have asked for them. They chose not to follow judicial rules and decided not to do so.

The 18th witness was detrimental to their case so they classified it so it could not be used to help the defendant. This was a violation of President Trump's 6th amendment rights.
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willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

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We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did!

Throw her in prison!
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The guy who has a trial with no witnesses was guilty your an idiot.
 Quoting: Lulz 78216751


What were those bodies I saw in Schiff's hearing? Ghosts?

I see you have been brainwashed by the Dems narrative on what the actual job of the Senate is in the impeachment process. Feel sorry for you. Allowing yourself to be hoodwinked.
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GLP citizen arrest. Icing on the cake!
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Just like she divided(ripped in half) that speech, she divides the nation....5aburnit
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Can she lead a delegation to Wuhan?
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Pelosi charged with a crime? I'll wait till the sun rises in the west. That will occur sooner.
FCK the WEF! Keep your hands off my country!
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Nice try but a copy of the speech is not any official document. Un pin this thread wasn't very well thought out.
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This is where you were wrong. Trump had the copy, and gave her the original!
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She did it twice ...6 years
Man is forever solving the most perplexing problems as he ventures ever further into the unknown. But where are the outer limits of his ingenuity? Will he ever encounter a problem, a Gordian Knot, which he cannot ultimately cut?

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It's on digital forever, fuck that bitch!
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Put her ass in jail for 3 years!
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Only if she is in general population and has a cellmate named "Large Marge".
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pee wee herman is on standby
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willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

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We all saw her do it on camera, the whole nation did!

Throw her in prison!
 Quoting: DeplorableOldMan


The guy who has a trial with no witnesses was guilty your an idiot.
 Quoting: Lulz 78216751


18 witnesses testified before Schiff's committee in his top secret bunker in the Capitol basement.

The testimony of 17 of those 18 witnesses was given to the senate as evidence.

Don't lie.
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


Are you serious he was tried with no witnesses or evidence that is a documented fact idiot
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Are you serious?? He was charged without commiting a Crime!
Man is forever solving the most perplexing problems as he ventures ever further into the unknown. But where are the outer limits of his ingenuity? Will he ever encounter a problem, a Gordian Knot, which he cannot ultimately cut?

--GLPPower--





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