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OP - my sincere thx for this great service you are taking your precious time to provide. Please rest when you can and take very good care of yourself. We all need you to stay strong and complete your work. God Bless you .
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Someone previously posted info about Vitamin C IV potentially being a viable treatment for Covid_19


Clinical trials underway exactly as mentioned here. We really have se brilliant minds here on GLP

Here's the link to clinical trials:

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You need to supplement K2 in the MK 7 form. There is little in any usually eaten natural foods. This is a relatively recent discovery (MK7). Do your research on this. Vit C , D and MK7 are vital for cardiovascular health, and the latest thinking is you need to take HEAPS. MK7 is not cheap tho.
And they will help with Coronavirus...:-).
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I take MK4 and just ordered some bulk MK4 from vitaspace.
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So i can pass along that Massachusetts has had Emergency alert tests more often the last few day’s on television. We just had one at 10 pm when people are watching the New Hampshire Presidential primary results come in on television.
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Interesting RD.

Information might not reach those who opted out of TV. Hope they have back up plans.

Thank you
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Clinical trials underway exactly as mentioned here. We really have some brilliant minds here on GLP

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Thanks for the info.

24g/day is not enough!

They need to be pushing like 150-200g/day.

I hope they adjust their dosages.
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Might be useful info if needed, could this also apply to the flu?

An article on what drugs they have used for patients .....



So "while you're waiting for the new miracle drug, it's worthwhile looking for existing drugs that could be repurposed" to treat new viruses, Morse told Live Science.

That's exactly the route doctors took to treat a 35-year-old man in Washington state, the first U.S. patient to have been infected with the new coronavirus.

When his symptoms worsened, the man was given an unapproved antiviral drug called remdesivir that was originally developed to treat Ebola, according to a case report published Jan. 31 in The New England Journal of Medicine.

Doctors gave this drug to the patient by making a "compassionate use" request to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which allows experimental drugs to be given to people outside of clinical trials, usually in emergency situations. The patient, who was recently released from the hospital, didn't seem to experience any side effects of the drug.

They found that remdesivir stopped the virus from replicating in a lab dish. Similarly, the group found that chloroquine — an approved and widely used anti-malarial and autoimmune disease drug — was also effective in stopping the virus from spreading in human cells in the lab, the researchers reported in a short letter published Feb. 4 in the journal Cell Research.

What's more, both drugs were effective at low concentrations, and neither drug was highly toxic to human cells.


Instead of finding a single drug to treat the coronavirus, "I would suggest a cocktail of drugs that target different stages of replication," Reiss said. "This virus is probably going to be like a number of other viruses, and it will undergo mutation and selection, so if you use only one antiviral drug, you are going to ultimately select for resistance."

What's more, the treatment will be most effective when given to a patient early on, perhaps even before symptoms develop, she said. "Taken very early in the course of exposure, the antiviral drugs could have a real impact," she said. After someone is already in the hospital in respiratory distress and a high fever, "it is much harder to treat the infection, people are more likely to treat the disease."


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FYI: Some treatment options


CytoDyn-leronlimab

CytoDyn is examining leronlimab (PRO 140), a CCR5 antagonist, as a potential treatment for 2019-nCOV.

The drug is already being investigated in phase two clinical trials as a treatment for HIV and has been awarded fast-track approval status by the United States Food and Drug Administration.


BXT-25 by BIOXYTRAN to treat late-stage acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS)

BIOXYTRAN announced that it exploring partners to develop its lead drug candidate, BX-25, as a treatment for Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) in late-stage patients infected with the coronavirus. The diffusion of oxygen to the blood is comprised in patients suffering from ARDS leading to fluid build-up in the lungs.

BX-25 is designed to be 5,000 times smaller than blood cells and efficiently transport oxygen through the body for a period of nine hours before being processed by the liver. The drug can help in supplying oxygen to the vital organs and enable the patient to recover and survive.


Coronavirus medicines: Drugs being developed for the novel coronavirus


Remdesivir (GS-5734) by Gilead Sciences

An ebola drug developed by Gilead Sciences that was found to be ineffective is now being tested in phase III randomised clinical trial in partnership with China.


Biocryst Pharma’s Galidesivir, a potential antiviral for coronavirus treatment

The antiviral drug Galidesivir (BCX4430) has shown broad-spectrum activity against a wide range of pathogens including coronavirus. It is a nucleoside RNA polymerase inhibitor that disrupts the process of viral replication.



Regeneron’s REGN3048-3051

Discovered by Regeneron, the combination of neutralising monoclonal antibodies REGN3048 and REGN3051 is being studied against coronavirus infection in a first-in-human clinical trial sponsored by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID). The safety and tolerability of the drug will be studied in 48 patients.


Lopinavir/ritonavir in combination with ribavirin showed reduced fatality rate and milder disease course during an open clinical trial in patients in the 2003 SARS outbreak.

Cipla is also reportedly planning to repurpose its HIV drug LOPIMUNE, which is a combination of protease inhibitors Lopinavir and Ritonavir, for the treatment of coronavirus.

A licensed generic of Kaletra®, LOPIMUNE is currently available in packs of 60 tablets each, containing 200mg of Lopinavir and 50mg of Ritonavir.

Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies, a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson, donated its PREZCOBIX® HIV medication (darunavir/cobicistat) for use in research activities aimed at finding a treatment for Covid-19.




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Someone previously posted info about Vitamin C IV potentially being a viable treatment for Covid_19


Clinical trials underway exactly as mentioned here. We really have se brilliant minds here on GLP

Here's the link to clinical trials:

[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78453053


"We hypothize that Vitamin C infusion can help improve the prognosis of patients with SARI. Therefore, it is necessary to study the clinical efficacy and safety of vitamin C for the clinical management of SARI through randomized controlled trials during the current epidemic of SARI."


Of course, it's not KungFlu, but I had a successful trial of megadose Vit C treating my daughter's strep throat this past week. She complained of a sore throat Saturday morning and we treated it with 500mg of Vit C every hour over the course of the day and it disappeared by that night. My wife caught it and we're doing the same thing today. It started, for her, at about 3:00 this morning, and after two doses of 1000mg, she's already feeling better.
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Someone previously posted info about Vitamin C IV potentially being a viable treatment for Covid_19


Clinical trials underway exactly as mentioned here. We really have se brilliant minds here on GLP

Here's the link to clinical trials:

[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78453053


"We hypothize that Vitamin C infusion can help improve the prognosis of patients with SARI. Therefore, it is necessary to study the clinical efficacy and safety of vitamin C for the clinical management of SARI through randomized controlled trials during the current epidemic of SARI."


Of course, it's not KungFlu, but I had a successful trial of megadose Vit C treating my daughter's strep throat this past week. She complained of a sore throat Saturday morning and we treated it with 500mg of Vit C every hour over the course of the day and it disappeared by that night. My wife caught it and we're doing the same thing today. It started, for her, at about 3:00 this morning, and after two doses of 1000mg, she's already feeling better.
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I was just telling my daughter last night about how awesome vitamin C is, and how I always pump it in when I start getting sick - how it helps not only avoid getting sick, but actually fights illness.

My aunt always had a big bottle of those chewable tablets, and I swear that woman never got sick. My daughter has been getting sick a lot lately, so I thought about ordering some. This post seals the deal - I'm ordering a bottle now and am going to start taking it daily, and more importantly, have her start taking it.

Good info!

hf
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Clinical trials underway exactly as mentioned here. We really have se brilliant minds here on GLP

Here's the link to clinical trials:

[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78453053


"We hypothize that Vitamin C infusion can help improve the prognosis of patients with SARI. Therefore, it is necessary to study the clinical efficacy and safety of vitamin C for the clinical management of SARI through randomized controlled trials during the current epidemic of SARI."


Of course, it's not KungFlu, but I had a successful trial of megadose Vit C treating my daughter's strep throat this past week. She complained of a sore throat Saturday morning and we treated it with 500mg of Vit C every hour over the course of the day and it disappeared by that night. My wife caught it and we're doing the same thing today. It started, for her, at about 3:00 this morning, and after two doses of 1000mg, she's already feeling better.
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Hey Revbo, are you using liposomal vitamin C or normal available everywhere C?
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

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"The Chinese virus can't be the only thing made in China that actually works as designed."~Fluffy Pancakes

Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.
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Clinical trials underway exactly as mentioned here. We really have se brilliant minds here on GLP

Here's the link to clinical trials:

[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78453053


"We hypothize that Vitamin C infusion can help improve the prognosis of patients with SARI. Therefore, it is necessary to study the clinical efficacy and safety of vitamin C for the clinical management of SARI through randomized controlled trials during the current epidemic of SARI."


Of course, it's not KungFlu, but I had a successful trial of megadose Vit C treating my daughter's strep throat this past week. She complained of a sore throat Saturday morning and we treated it with 500mg of Vit C every hour over the course of the day and it disappeared by that night. My wife caught it and we're doing the same thing today. It started, for her, at about 3:00 this morning, and after two doses of 1000mg, she's already feeling better.
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Hey Revbo, are you using liposomal vitamin C or normal available everywhere C?
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


I've got a little of the fancy stuff, but we've just been using ascorbic acid so far. Saving the good stuff for something more serious.
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hf

Thanks!
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

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"The Chinese virus can't be the only thing made in China that actually works as designed."~Fluffy Pancakes

Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.
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hf

Thanks!
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Sure thing. Incidentally, I haven't researched liposomal very much. Is Camu Camu considered liposomal? We've got a bag of that and it was about 10X the price by unit as ascorbic acid.

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My sister is an MD is in The Mid West , She handed out N95 masks and goggles to her grown kids last week and our family has been told to brace ourselves for the obvious reasons . We have very strong connections to LE and First Responders in several communities and I’m hearing the exact same thing from each of them . We in the Medical Fields already know what we are facing and soon everyone else will too.
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hf

Thanks!
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Sure thing. Incidentally, I haven't researched liposomal very much. Is Camu Camu considered liposomal? We've got a bag of that and it was about 10X the price by unit as ascorbic acid.
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Sorry! I don't know. I do know that liposomal is faster to digest and hit your bloodstream. But I'm no expert on C's.

I also know that IV C therapy has got to be very. very carefully administered. It killed a friend of mine. I guess too much kill off and caused liver overload pf toxins.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

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"The Chinese virus can't be the only thing made in China that actually works as designed."~Fluffy Pancakes

Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.
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hf

Thanks!
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Sure thing. Incidentally, I haven't researched liposomal very much. Is Camu Camu considered liposomal? We've got a bag of that and it was about 10X the price by unit as ascorbic acid.
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™


Sorry! I don't know. I do know that liposomal is faster to digest and hit your bloodstream. But I'm no expert on C's.

I also know that IV C therapy has got to be very. very carefully administered. It killed a friend of mine. I guess too much kill off and caused liver overload pf toxins.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Yikes. Sorry to hear about your friend.

I wouldn't trust myself to administer it, anyway, especially to my kids, so we're just gonna stick with oral.
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hf

Thanks!
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Sure thing. Incidentally, I haven't researched liposomal very much. Is Camu Camu considered liposomal? We've got a bag of that and it was about 10X the price by unit as ascorbic acid.
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™


Sorry! I don't know. I do know that liposomal is faster to digest and hit your bloodstream. But I'm no expert on C's.

I also know that IV C therapy has got to be very. very carefully administered. It killed a friend of mine. I guess too much kill off and caused liver overload pf toxins.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Yikes. Sorry to hear about your friend.

I wouldn't trust myself to administer it, anyway, especially to my kids, so we're just gonna stick with oral.

 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™


Same here.

My friend was being treated for cancer. Did some Mexico clinics and a plethora of natural treatments, but the IV C just was too much. Thanks!
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

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I have no link or any other “proof” BUT

my wife and sister in law and brother in law work at Beaumont Royal oak and we’re just given them announcement that a patient has been SUPPOSEDLY officially diagnosed with Coronavirus and are currently in airborne precautions.

They are awaiting updates as am I

I’ll try and keep posted

Thanks
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If you come across intel from other threads, please post it here. I'd like for this thread to be sort of a clearinghouse for that kind of information, especially now that 001 is somewhat spotty.
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Someone previously posted info about Vitamin C IV potentially being a viable treatment for Covid_19


Clinical trials underway exactly as mentioned here. We really have se brilliant minds here on GLP

Here's the link to clinical trials:

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78453053


"We hypothize that Vitamin C infusion can help improve the prognosis of patients with SARI. Therefore, it is necessary to study the clinical efficacy and safety of vitamin C for the clinical management of SARI through randomized controlled trials during the current epidemic of SARI."


Of course, it's not KungFlu, but I had a successful trial of megadose Vit C treating my daughter's strep throat this past week. She complained of a sore throat Saturday morning and we treated it with 500mg of Vit C every hour over the course of the day and it disappeared by that night. My wife caught it and we're doing the same thing today. It started, for her, at about 3:00 this morning, and after two doses of 1000mg, she's already feeling better.
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No digestive issues aka diarrhea with such a high dose?
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Someone previously posted info about Vitamin C IV potentially being a viable treatment for Covid_19


Clinical trials underway exactly as mentioned here. We really have se brilliant minds here on GLP

Here's the link to clinical trials:

[link to clinicaltrials.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78453053


"We hypothize that Vitamin C infusion can help improve the prognosis of patients with SARI. Therefore, it is necessary to study the clinical efficacy and safety of vitamin C for the clinical management of SARI through randomized controlled trials during the current epidemic of SARI."


Of course, it's not KungFlu, but I had a successful trial of megadose Vit C treating my daughter's strep throat this past week. She complained of a sore throat Saturday morning and we treated it with 500mg of Vit C every hour over the course of the day and it disappeared by that night. My wife caught it and we're doing the same thing today. It started, for her, at about 3:00 this morning, and after two doses of 1000mg, she's already feeling better.
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No digestive issues aka diarrhea with such a high dose?
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Not a bit. I researched it a little a few days ago, and saw that most people can tolerate 20-40 grams a day (and some more than that) when sick without developing diarrhea. My daughter, all told, probably got 5 or 6 grams on Saturday, and my wife will probably be in the 10-15 gram range today.
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sooo ... just curious - has 001 flow the coop?
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sooo ... just curious - has 001 flow the coop?
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Haven't seen him in a couple days. No idea.
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Thanks rev!
Sooo glad you updated to include all "uncle" intel. This was the main reason I started coming to glp in the first place. (Almost 20 years ago if you count my a/c days)

I am in central florida (as some of you old timers know). I will add any information I come across as well as what I hear from family and friends. (Which isnt much as of right now)
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So i can pass along that Massachusetts has had Emergency alert tests more often the last few day’s on television. We just had one at 10 pm when people are watching the New Hampshire Presidential primary results come in on television.
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Interesting RD.

Information might not reach those who opted out of TV. Hope they have back up plans.

Thank you
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Those who opt out of television will receive emergency alerts on their cellphone or in the radio.
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OP, I’m not a medical professional. However, based on my “layman” research, it’s clear that this virus is similar to SARS in many respects.

I’m finding conflicting information in the matter of ACE-2 that I’m hoping you may clarify.

I’m finding some articles advocating for increasing ACE2 levels to protect against lowered values caused by infection, yet other articles seem to indicate that inhibition of ACE-2 helps to prevent infection.

Can you please offer your insights and recommendations?

Thanks in advance. I’m tracking this thread several times a day for updates.
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Hello 011, from another thread:

The wuhan virus is identical to the ACE2 key-- and it fits into the keyhole.

So-- flooding the body with ACE2 would be a means of sopping up the virus-- NOT inhibiting ACE2.


What's your take on that.. some suggested ACE2 inhibitors, but this person thinks it could make matters worse.
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^^these!!
Would taking an ACE inhibitor for already high blood pressure be beneficial or problematic?
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The ACE2 receptor is merely the route of ingress of NCoV INTO the cell—it does nothing else. Overdosing on ACE2 inhibitor meds would have very serious cardiovascular/vasopressin results. I would recommend NOT doing this. Same with ARBs, the receptor site(ACE2) is complex. Wish it were

Once inside the cell it disables the Tregulator cells which is what is used to inhibit the positive feedback loop cytokines storm

Vit D plays a part in the formulation/differentiation of the myloproliferative cell into a Tregulator cell
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ACE2 is also not the only receptor that it is using, this is just me and my colleagues coming to this possibility.

Our lab has not studied transmission or much of anything related to such. But just from provided facts here vs information regarding other viruses known to utilize ACE2 receptors, it just does not click.

SARS is known and proven to use ACE2 only.
Ncov is reported, to use ACE2 "only".

Sars, 13 months, less lethal by far, less infectious.

Ncov is clearly able to enter by other means, atleast I have come to accept this myself.

Medications/methods to prevent infection are priority 1. Treatment is secondary in nature as you would hope prevention is successful.

Remdesivir is still being touted in media, disregarding the fact it has adverse, unstudied side effects that are disregarded as this is an antiviral used in HIV cases.

It is intended to stop RNA based viral replication, it does do its job as intended, but it is neither effective enough or safe enough to use as a fulltime treatment.

-001
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Yes, I would agree, and from my perspective, a rush to treatment. It’s mutating

I am purely clinical, not investigative. TYVM for your contributions

My perspective as I said is clinical, so transmission is critical no nail down so we can begin to fight. Strict preventative measures and slowing down its spread so we can get a handle on it, you can get a handle on it, is what we have right now. Nothing but compassionate measures.

Fortunately, western medicine provides a significant microbiological firewall.
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London will likely be shutdown and in chaos within a month.

I have some inside intel on this. Can't give too many details but I have a friend of many decades who works for a UK ministry.

He called me a few days ago out of the blue and we discussed contingency plans in detail. He has a young child and is planning to leave the city or at least get his wife and kid out.

I am in another European country and we are cancelling a trip to the UK scheduled for a large group in April. We are taking a substantial financial hit on the cancellation.
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London will likely be shutdown and in chaos within a month.

I have some inside intel on this. Can't give too many details but I have a friend of many decades who works for a UK ministry.

He called me a few days ago out of the blue and we discussed contingency plans in detail. He has a young child and is planning to leave the city or at least get his wife and kid out.

I am in another European country and we are cancelling a trip to the UK scheduled for a large group in April. We are taking a substantial financial hit on the cancellation.
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Followup:

I don't want to risk his or my positions, but we are both government employees at reasonably high levels for two European countries, UK and France. We have known and trusted each other for many years.

He knows my personal opinions on many things despite being a govt employee and therefore his call surprised me because I knew right away why he called. He wanted my take on this situation as he is likely getting COG echos on his end.

He is aware of the danger in London and now that there is a confirmed case there is no way to stop the spread within the city.

Here in France we are waiting for the same to happen in Paris particularly however I have no intel on that as of today as our channels are not conveying information.

However the situation will move quickly in the coming days.

First warned will be best prepared to move out.
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Re: Michigan suspected case:
Can confirm it was not a suspicion but the patient indeed tested positive
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Kairomonal effect of some saturated hydrocarbons on the egg parasitoids, Trichogramma brasiliensis (Ashmead) and Trichogramma exiguum, Pinto, Platner and Oatman

" pentacosane and hexacosane recorded very high parasitoid activity index (PAI) "
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