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97% of antibiotics and 80% of pharmaceuticals in US are imported from China, 70% of Americans take pharma daily, This could destroy the USA

 
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Well that could be so, BUT even little Croatia can now sell antibiotics. China isn't the whole source of the worlds medicines. It's probably super cheap so big pharma makes a killing.


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 Quoting: Dr. Novosel


antibiotics are produced from blue mold that grows on bread.

you could leave a 25 cent loaf of bread out for a week and have enough penicillin for a whole city, antibiotics should be free. They basically were for awhile, at Kroger, Walmart with the $2 and $2 prescriptions, but of course they find ways to upsell you.

penicillin always knocked out what was wrong with you

then they started handing out all these bullshit antibiotics that don't work
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Unfortunately the world runs on money.
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Well that could be so, BUT even little Croatia can now sell antibiotics. China isn't the whole source of the worlds medicines. It's probably super cheap so big pharma makes a killing.


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 Quoting: Dr. Novosel


antibiotics are produced from blue mold that grows on bread.

you could leave a 25 cent loaf of bread out for a week and have enough penicillin for a whole city, antibiotics should be free. They basically were for awhile, at Kroger, Walmart with the $2 and $2 prescriptions, but of course they find ways to upsell you.

penicillin always knocked out what was wrong with you

then they started handing out all these bullshit antibiotics that don't work
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That's because the MEDICAL GUILD wanted to fleece the people in the name of safety. The whole reason medical is so expensive in this country is because the government wants it that way and the sad thing is idiots believe the government is going to fix it.
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If people had to stop taking their meds
they might discover they could live without
them.

They might discover they are HEALTHIER and
HAPPIER without all those foreign and often
poisonous chemical compounds floating through
their systems.

Our medicine cabinetS look like a pharmacy
and my wife takes whatever the PA tells her
to for every little ache and pain, and the
meds CAUSE more PROBLEMS than they solve.

Oh, the high blood pressure pill gives you
dry mouth? Take these two pills to correct
that side effect.

Oh, those new pills give you the jimmy legs?
Take this pill twice daily.

SHIT, they have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER IN THIS WORLD,
what all those combinations of drugs
(each with their own sets of side-effects -
SOMETIMES DEADLY) have on each other and on YOU.

Add to that the effects of DIET and supplements
you may take, and you may find yourself,
like my wife, a ticking time-bomb.

My grandmother never took ANY of this SHIT
and she lived to be 93!

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Yup. Watch the diet and be careful if any meds and even supplements. Get out and walk also. Or at least sit out in nature to calm down.
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SO GLAD my husband and I don't take any rx meds. This could be a blessing in disguise for people who take a boatload of shit that just causes them more problems. I wish people would try and find other ways to treat their issues as much of pharma is crap.
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I read in another thread about them adding ashes from corpses as a thinner in some of their pills.

It wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Has anyone else had the experience - this would probably be older people - that drugs we take now are not as STRONG OR EFFECTIVE or have different side effects than the ones we used to take decades ago? Penicillin for example, seems much weaker to me than it used to be.

This could be very important to us in the future if we NEED a good class of antibiotics.

Maybe THIS is why we have so many "drug resistant" strains of whatever.....it's because the drugs they use to treat it are made in China and they're just not as GOOD.
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For our national security and the interests of the AMERICAN people, we need to break off this parasitic relationship we've had with COMMUNIST China for the past 40 years or so. Our bitter enemy, committed to the destruction of our way of life, CANNOT be the producer of all our common goods, necessities of life, and military supplies just to enrich a small class of totalitarians. THIS IS INSANE.
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SO GLAD my husband and I don't take any rx meds. This could be a blessing in disguise for people who take a boatload of shit that just causes them more problems. I wish people would try and find other ways to treat their issues as much of pharma is crap.
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I wish my Mrs. and myself were prescription-free but sadly she needs to take a blood thinner while I use insulin and porcine-derived enzymes [or else I cannot digest anything] as I've a non-functioning pancreas. I worry about the availability of our medications if China completely collapses.

I will however have a better grasp on micro-managing my diabetes now because my doc prescribed an interstitial glucose monitor. Basically a quarter-sized sensor I stick on the back of my arm and for two weeks it runs sending my blood glucose readings to my phone. Chasity is curious about it and in reading up on it on the manufacturer's web site I learned I can include twenty people to see my readings in real time on their iPhone or Android.

I guess I drifted a bit there, but I have concerns and I suspect even the new monitor coming my way in FedEx Monday uses wireless sensors made in China.

Edit to add: they sent it overnight, it's been on my porch for three hours! Now to fire it up and link me to my phone.

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1 in 6 Americans are on antidepressant drugs. We all know what happens when they go off their meds.
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Has anyone else had the experience - this would probably be older people - that drugs we take now are not as STRONG OR EFFECTIVE or have different side effects than the ones we used to take decades ago? Penicillin for example, seems much weaker to me than it used to be.

This could be very important to us in the future if we NEED a good class of antibiotics.

Maybe THIS is why we have so many "drug resistant" strains of whatever.....it's because the drugs they use to treat it are made in China and they're just not as GOOD.
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they used to INJECT penicillin via a big ol needle.

antibiotics are a lot more effective intra venously

but there's like one in a hundred people who can't handle it intra venously. so doctors can't take the risk.

but if you KNOW it's no big deal for you, you could inject it. if someone was REALLY sick, obviously you'd want to inject them because it's 10 times more effective.
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1 in 6 Americans are on antidepressant drugs. We all know what happens when they go off their meds.
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those wingnuts were nutsoid to begin with.
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1 in 6 Americans are on antidepressant drugs. We all know what happens when they go off their meds.
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those wingnuts were nutsoid to begin with.
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They get 10 times more nutsoid if suddenly off the meds
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Not so much:

"Moreover, we could have overestimated our dependence on Chinese-made pharmaceutical products. As of 2018, China claimed 13.4 percent of all import lines– defined as distinct regulated products within a shipment through customs–among countries that export drugs and biologics to the United States. Of these import lines for drugs and biologics, about 83 percent were finished drugs, and only 7.5 percent were APIs. We certainly underestimate the share of APIs from China given that Chinese-made APIs can come to the United States as part of the finished drug products from other countries like India. However, the lack of a reliable API registry makes it difficult to estimate the true market share of Chinese-made APIs."

That's from the Council of Foreign Relations site.
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1 in 6 Americans are on antidepressant drugs. We all know what happens when they go off their meds.
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those wingnuts were nutsoid to begin with.
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They get 10 times more nutsoid if suddenly off the meds
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that's true. but that just goes with the territory.
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DAYUM!!!!! That might be why my antibiotic hasn't been working as well as it should! We need to take this stuff back and make it in the USA. These other countries have NO STANDARDS and Red China is our enemy. We should not be reliant on them so that a few very wealthy people can become even wealthier and completely run our world.

I do think giant multinational corporations need to be brought to heel and forced to bring back business to THIS country. Sherman anti-trust laws need to be used. If they don't want to be AMERICAN businesses, maybe we shouldn't let them SELL in America!
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China usually does a good job on the first shipment to their business customers in America, and without fail, after that, it is all downhill. They substitute cheap components and materials out of the specifications that were demanded in order to squeeze the business owners for more money.

No doubt, many generics probably are placebos filled with dried dog food and god knows what else.
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for example. anti depression meds are not going to be used to treat corona virus..
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it's funny you said this...because is not.
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for example. anti depression meds are not going to be used to treat corona virus..
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it's funny you said this...because is not.
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they've even tried M&Ms, but it didn't help.
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DAYUM!!!!! That might be why my antibiotic hasn't been working as well as it should! We need to take this stuff back and make it in the USA. These other countries have NO STANDARDS and Red China is our enemy. We should not be reliant on them so that a few very wealthy people can become even wealthier and completely run our world.

I do think giant multinational corporations need to be brought to heel and forced to bring back business to THIS country. Sherman anti-trust laws need to be used. If they don't want to be AMERICAN businesses, maybe we shouldn't let them SELL in America!
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The problem is a lot of the politicians are revolving door corporate insiders and then there is the lobbyists. They are all on the take.

The swamp is Corporate America that owns the politicians.
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DAYUM!!!!! That might be why my antibiotic hasn't been working as well as it should! We need to take this stuff back and make it in the USA. These other countries have NO STANDARDS and Red China is our enemy. We should not be reliant on them so that a few very wealthy people can become even wealthier and completely run our world.

I do think giant multinational corporations need to be brought to heel and forced to bring back business to THIS country. Sherman anti-trust laws need to be used. If they don't want to be AMERICAN businesses, maybe we shouldn't let them SELL in America!
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China usually does a good job on the first shipment to their business customers in America, and without fail, after that, it is all downhill. They substitute cheap components and materials out of the specifications that were demanded in order to squeeze the business owners for more money.

No doubt, many generics probably are placebos filled with dried dog food and god knows what else.
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I'm sure US companies buying from china as cheap as they can to make billions run tests to maintain your safety.

lol
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Well that could be so, BUT even little Croatia can now sell antibiotics. China isn't the whole source of the worlds medicines. It's probably super cheap so big pharma makes a killing.


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 Quoting: Dr. Novosel


antibiotics are produced from blue mold that grows on bread.

you could leave a 25 cent loaf of bread out for a week and have enough penicillin for a whole city, antibiotics should be free. They basically were for awhile, at Kroger, Walmart with the $2 and $2 prescriptions, but of course they find ways to upsell you.

penicillin always knocked out what was wrong with you

then they started handing out all these bullshit antibiotics that don't work
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Unfortunately the world runs on money.
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There are many natural remedies that can be used to alleviate or cure symptoms, but doctors do not recommend them because there is no money in it.

How does a Pharma Giant make money off easily grown spices and herbs that anyone can grow in a window sill?
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Well that could be so, BUT even little Croatia can now sell antibiotics. China isn't the whole source of the worlds medicines. It's probably super cheap so big pharma makes a killing.


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 Quoting: Dr. Novosel


antibiotics are produced from blue mold that grows on bread.

you could leave a 25 cent loaf of bread out for a week and have enough penicillin for a whole city, antibiotics should be free. They basically were for awhile, at Kroger, Walmart with the $2 and $2 prescriptions, but of course they find ways to upsell you.

penicillin always knocked out what was wrong with you

then they started handing out all these bullshit antibiotics that don't work
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That's because the MEDICAL GUILD wanted to fleece the people in the name of safety. The whole reason medical is so expensive in this country is because the government wants it that way and the sad thing is idiots believe the government is going to fix it.
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when you realize that insulin costs 10x cheaper in Canada. And they spent billions bribing congress to make it illegal.

you need to ask yourself. did they give you the diabetes with vaccines, because they knew you'd become dependent on insulin? why would we not consider the possibility?


they genetically engineer mosquitoes now, so that they need tetrycycline to live, if they don't get it they die within 6 weeks. so they release them into wild and they breed with wild mosquitoes and their offspring all die off. it actually works, wiped out 90% of mosquitoes.



but what if that's the future of human race? slave class that needs insulin to live or some shit like that? what if that's already what we got?
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So invest in Canadian Pharmaceuticals. What do you expect people to do?

Look if things go there medications are not difficult to manufacture at all. People do it in garages everyday for the black market. Many meds cost less than a penny a day to maintain. There are compounding pharmacies in almost every major city.

Doomtards ride on. I'm not going to live my life in a state of paranoid fear brought on on part by Chinese propaganda and media accounts or opinions from "experts".

China was warned decades ago by the western world to clean up it's act and here we are. Exactly what do you expect people to do ? I just came from Whole Fucks; everything is normal there. Almost no food there comes from China. So what do you really expect someone to do?
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Well that could be so, BUT even little Croatia can now sell antibiotics. China isn't the whole source of the worlds medicines. It's probably super cheap so big pharma makes a killing.


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 Quoting: Dr. Novosel


antibiotics are produced from blue mold that grows on bread.

you could leave a 25 cent loaf of bread out for a week and have enough penicillin for a whole city, antibiotics should be free. They basically were for awhile, at Kroger, Walmart with the $2 and $2 prescriptions, but of course they find ways to upsell you.

penicillin always knocked out what was wrong with you

then they started handing out all these bullshit antibiotics that don't work
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That's because the MEDICAL GUILD wanted to fleece the people in the name of safety. The whole reason medical is so expensive in this country is because the government wants it that way and the sad thing is idiots believe the government is going to fix it.
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The government will never fix it since they are in the pockets of big pharma and the insurance industry.

Anytime a "fix" is recommended, it is never about negotiating costs as is allowed under capitalism but how to spread the outrageous costs to everyone.

Whenever one politician even suggests cost cutting measures, Big Pharma pumps millions into those politicians pockets to kill the movement.
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Big shot CEO's are going to need to find a way to make those drugs here in the USA. Might need to knock a few million off of their annual salary.

Never let foreign nations, especially competitors and hostiles, have any control over your supply of food, medicine, electronics, fuel, etc unless it is something you just can't produce...stupid stupid stupid what the US has allowed it's corporations to do.
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Yes, it is unbelievable that US people allowed it to happen.
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Yep
They will sell off this country if there is money to be made.
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They're generally unprincipled, unethical people. Casual greed and nonchalant dishonesty come naturally to most of them.

Some of them are apolitical or bend-with-the-wind-types politically. They're at best like a John McCain or Mitt Romney.

But most of the rest of that bunch tend to have tender feelings towards liberal scammers like the Clintons, the Obamas, the Bidens/Warrens/Sanders of a nation.

Various forms of corruption flourish best in a very socially, politically liberal/"leftie"/progressive society.

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when you vote your politicians, presidents, remember and check which pharmas are behind them

almost always they're owned by someone

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DAYUM!!!!! That might be why my antibiotic hasn't been working as well as it should! We need to take this stuff back and make it in the USA. These other countries have NO STANDARDS and Red China is our enemy. We should not be reliant on them so that a few very wealthy people can become even wealthier and completely run our world.

I do think giant multinational corporations need to be brought to heel and forced to bring back business to THIS country. Sherman anti-trust laws need to be used. If they don't want to be AMERICAN businesses, maybe we shouldn't let them SELL in America!
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China usually does a good job on the first shipment to their business customers in America, and without fail, after that, it is all downhill. They substitute cheap components and materials out of the specifications that were demanded in order to squeeze the business owners for more money.

No doubt, many generics probably are placebos filled with dried dog food and god knows what else.
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I'm sure US companies buying from china as cheap as they can to make billions run tests to maintain your safety.

lol
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Big Pharma spends billions more on Marketing than they do R&D LOL.
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Does anyone know if there's a way to buy REAL DRUGS AGAIN, like antibiotics? From a decent, NON-CHINESE source with real quality?

Right now I'm more relying on hydrogen peroxide as the penicillin doesn't seem to be doing jack shit.
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DAYUM!!!!! That might be why my antibiotic hasn't been working as well as it should! We need to take this stuff back and make it in the USA. These other countries have NO STANDARDS and Red China is our enemy. We should not be reliant on them so that a few very wealthy people can become even wealthier and completely run our world.

I do think giant multinational corporations need to be brought to heel and forced to bring back business to THIS country. Sherman anti-trust laws need to be used. If they don't want to be AMERICAN businesses, maybe we shouldn't let them SELL in America!
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China usually does a good job on the first shipment to their business customers in America, and without fail, after that, it is all downhill. They substitute cheap components and materials out of the specifications that were demanded in order to squeeze the business owners for more money.

No doubt, many generics probably are placebos filled with dried dog food and god knows what else.
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I'm sure US companies buying from china as cheap as they can to make billions run tests to maintain your safety.

lol
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Big Pharma spends billions more on Marketing than they do R&D LOL.
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And look at the TONS of commercials they regularly air especially on news networks and retro networks - like all the folks that watch these things are between a grave and a banana peel. And it's not like we can go out and BUY these drugs directly - these are Rx drugs. WHY MARKET THEM DIRECTLY TO US? I hate this shit, I turn the sound down or go to another channel when they come on. Thank God for DVR. SO SKEEZY!!!
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when you vote your politicians, presidents, remember and check which pharmas are behind them

almost always they're owned by someone

Idol1
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Yep
I always look what Corporations or Banks are backing a Candidate and know right off the bat what is going on.

The Candidates will whisper sweet nothings in your ear, and once is office, they work for their big money donors.

Thanks for the vote chumps.





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