Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus

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The SARS Accelerated Vaccine Initiative (SAVI), an international consortium led by the BC centre, is now conducting animal trials of 3 potential vaccines.

China hopes to start its own clinical trials of an indigenously developed whole killed vaccine in January, but Brunham says that shouldn't preclude trials of the Canadian–developed vaccine.

With SARS most likely to resurface in China, where it originated, it makes sense to conduct clinical trials there, Brunham says. “It would be helpful to Chinese authorities to demonstrate within Chinese populations that the vaccine is safe and would generate the right kind of immune responses.”

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Canadian government scientist at the National Microbiology Lab in Winnipeg made at least five trips to China in 2017-18, including one to train scientists and technicians at China's newly certified Level 4 lab, which does research with the most deadly pathogens, according to travel documents obtained by CBC News.

IS this implying that ppl who got a SARS vaccine are more susceptible to NCov or its variants ?

Funding vaccines for emerging infectious diseases
Gary Wong & Xiangguo Qiu

Pages 1760-1762 | Received 01 Nov 2017, Accepted 24 Nov 2017, Accepted author version posted online: 01 Dec 2017, Published online: 16 Jan 2018

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Its a join the dots scenario...

Notable is the lack Hib, ORV, PCV, influenza and HPV vaccines in China’s EPI system - vaccines that are recommended by WHO for all countries’ national immunization programs but are available only as private-sector vaccines in China.

Three vaccines (JEV-L made by Chengdu Institute of Biological Products; InfV, made by Hualan Biological; and inactivated hepatitis A vaccine, made by Sinovac Biotech Co. Ltd.) have been prequalified by WHO, [1, 16] enabling procurement by UNICEF and Gavi for use in other countries

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There were reports from at least one study that the vaccine made the lab animals susceptible to even the common cold (a coronavirus).

The lab animals were all dying of lung illness. Consequently, the researchers warned against human studies.

I believe this is exactly what has happened in Hubei Province.

Thread: China's Mandatory Vaccination Law Went Into Effect on December 1, 2019 - The Coronavirus Outbreak is a Vaccine Experiment Gone Bad

Suggesting a well deserved pin!

:brilliant:

And thanks, sorry i didnt see your thread

The chances of China fucking this up are quite high IMO.

Only three possibilities with the nCoV


1. Naturally evolved
--- 1a. Its a killer, enters via the ACE2 receptor
2. Manmade
--- 2a. Its a killer, enters via the ACE2 receptor
3. Natural or manmade, with adverse effects on vaccinated population

--- 3a. Vaccine distributed only within china.
--- 3b. Vaccine exported


Its a shitty scenario, but my hope is that this is a result of a SARS vaccine, locally distributed, and what we are seeing is the result of a mild coronavirus meeting a population made sensitive to adverse effects.

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Thanks for the pin.

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A1 through Z26

Novel Coronavirus = 223 mirror 322

Its probable its bullshit, yes.

If thats the case, we are all FUBAR

It's been spreading for a couple months now, ample time for it to have caused a deadly outbreak elsewhere if it was going to. But it hasn't happened, even within China.

According to the latest updates there are still only the two deaths outside China. One Chinese, one immunocompromised. And within China only 29 of the reported deaths are outside Hubei Province where the actual dead probably number far higher than the 780 reported?

Yup. This hopefully is the situation, that China messed up, big time, in their mandatory vaccinations.

I posted this reply on the thread about the 5 Brits in France getting corona, Thread: Coronavirus Doom-FIRST TRANSMISSION WITH NO CHINA CONNECTION-5 Brits in French Skiing Village and wanted to post it here too:

Hopefully, this thread Thread: Thread: China's Mandatory Vaccination Law Went Into Effect on December 1, 2019 - The Coronavirus Outbreak is a Vaccine Experiment Gone Bad proves to be true, with time (China's mandatory vaccination made many of their people very susceptible to severe symptoms from corona strains, in a nutshell- read the thread for more details)

Seems most people with coronavirus, so far, on a cruise ship quarantined in the harbor by Japan, have few symptoms, if at all:

"Among the other Americans quarantined aboard the ship are Rebecca Frasure and her husband. She was shocked when a doctor on board the ship knocked on her door to inform her that her throat swab had tested positive for the virus, as she had no symptoms other than a cough.

In a Skype interview with CNN, Rebecca said: 'I don't know what's going to happen an hour from now, tomorrow. For all we know, we could stay quarantined on the ship for a month.'

The new cases, all passengers who are in their 20s to 80s, will be taken to medical facilities in Tokyo and nearby Saitama Chiba and Kanagawa prefectures as well as Shizuoka Prefecture in central Japan.

At least one person is reported in serious condition, although the person also has a pre-existing health matter. None of the others afflicted by the virus have severe symptoms, Japan's health ministry said. "

dailymail article: American cruise passenger passes the time stuck in coronavirus quarantine by tweeting reviews of his food as he jokes the only pleas for help are 'for more coffee'

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OP doesn't understand what the report means.

He also doesn't understand viruses.
There is a reason we get a different flue shot every year.
There is a reason vaccines only work against 1 virus.

SARS and Novel Coronavirus have a totally different RNA sequence.

How would you explain the two bold-font quotes from the dailymail article then (see my post above yours, about the corona quarantined cruise ship docked at a Japan harbor)?

"Among the other Americans quarantined aboard the ship are Rebecca Frasure and her husband. She was shocked when a doctor on board the ship knocked on her door to inform her that her throat swab had tested positive for the virus, as she had no symptoms other than a cough.

At least one person is reported in serious condition, although the person also has a pre-existing health matter. None of the others afflicted by the virus have severe symptoms, Japan's health ministry said. "

SARS and "Novel Coronavirus" are both engineered viruses based on the same family of Bat viruses "Bat SARS" for lack of a better term.

The failed vaccines in the studies repeatedly made the animals suffer deadly lung symptoms when exposed to other Coronavirus, even the common cold.

Disagree re outbreak in China. But.

Yeah its weird alright.

The numbers outside of China should be higher by now.

20 Jan, Wahun was locked down. So 2 weeks.

In Australia we had 40-50 plane loads coming in per day.

Say this started only 1 week prior to Jan 20. We should already have people dropping like flies.

Then there is the 6 week incubation theory.

That puts us right in the outbreak period.

Yet numbers in Western regions remain low and slow.

If cChina had of fucked up, imagine the social and political fall out on that alone.

Then there is the international outcry both from the global population and world governments.

It'd be a shambles, and likely the end of the CCP.

China is not letting the CDC in, and telling its people it is Americas fault, yet no real indications of a war footing.

Please enlighten me further.

What does that have to do with anything?
Like anything at all?

^This^

I'm saying a vaccine for 1 virus will not effect or work against a different virus.

I think you should extrapolate more what you are trying to communicate.

You think they aren't so severe yet because of the time exposed? (though the person with a pre-existing health issue is already pretty sick)

You think most people don't get very sick from coronavirus?

I just need more details to understand what you mean.

No shit sherlock. Come back when you have read and understood the articles.

Why don't you lay down some of your wisdom on us?

Go ahead what does the report say?

Also explain why a vaccine for a totally different virus would effect the Novel Coronavirus whether it be via making people more susceptible to catching it or making it more deadly.

Go ahead I'll be waiting.

What I meant about China is that the deadly outbreak hasn't really spread outside Hubei province. The virus has spread, but the expected deaths have not. The 29 deaths outside Hubei Province could easily be explained by travelers from Hubei Province that got the vaccine.

Shit

No panic sex after all

Read the first post.

Do you like airplane noises when you get spoonfed?