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5 October 2021: hello, i have not updated this thread a long time - but it seems that Ivermectin and Andrographis paniculata (green chiretta), seems to make quite the impact as supportive treatment options

In this thread, we compile a list of natural remedies from around the world, to treat, support, protect and recover against Coronavirus infection - COVID-19. To strengthen lungs, respiratory system, the immune system and even layout an alternative to avoid Cytokine Storm, caused by COVID-19.

Any additional suggestions, please feel free to share, lets examine it, and I will add to the summary list of herbs, in the 2nd post below

Allow me to start with Indonesia, with thousands of years of practice in using herbal medicine provided by its vast jungles, for example "Jamu": [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] . People here are experienced to some of the worst viruses making its rounds since many years (dengue fever, malaria, Zika virus, rabies with 100% mortality rate just to name a few).

Supportive herbal treatment, for Virus infections and other diseases (besides going to hospital and modern medicine), is just a way of life here.

Hence maybe one of the reasons why COVID-19, hasn't escalated here as bad as in Europe or USA. Even though, we are practically a neighbour of China with millions of Chinese tourists last December and January visiting, earlier COVID-19 outbreaks (Thailand, Phillipine, Vietnam, Malaysia), overcrowded mega cities, less advanced health care and technology, with many people still living on a couple of $ per day... Time will tell... Maybe its just the sun and humidity factor 1dunno1

Anyway, if you are interested, by all means - read on... You can make many types of drink and tea mixes, essential oils, ground the herb yourself, digest in powder form, etc etc. Couple of recipes and dosage guides in 3rd post below.

Please kindly be mindful though, for potential side effects, overdose, allergies and especially if you are pregnant! Unfortunately i am not able to list side effects.. it would just make the thread to long to read and time consuming to research and update. Your own research about side effects is recommended, or simply drop a line and we could help to check...

My favourite herbs, which we take regularly are ginger and tumeric drinks - proven antiviral and anti-inflammatory and clearing respiratory of my smoked up lungs. Very easy to buy, or even to grow. These herbs are in use since ancient times as medicine, with many healthy benefits! Also, we are regularly drinking green tea and eating a daily spoon of honey and generally just try to eat & drink more health-conscious . Already, I had some good experience (twice during last 3 months) with a nasty flu and cough, that went away in record time (2-3 days, i usually need a week for symptoms to disappear).

I believe in the above measures, for my family and myself, to ward off against COVID-19 and some other diseases. Besides, basic hygiene precautions of course. I am also in the process of ordering a kilogram of cinchona bark, just as precaution in case situation gets downhill, either for my extended family, friends or neighbours - easy and cheap to get here, as Indonesia is the worlds biggest producer of this wonder herb. I think, if the leader of the "free world" says so - it should not be ignored. Heck - even the owner of this forum swears on it. cheers


I strongly believe that for every sickness, nature already prepared the answer loooong in advance... So cheer up, positive thinking and stay healthy!!


Edit to add 1 - Turmeric & Ginger, recommended by a physician, who went through real SHTF in Venezuela and sharing his experience how to survive:
[link to my72.news.blog (secure)]

Edit to add 2 - Cytokine Storm (Immune system overdrive: [link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)] during severe COVID-19 infection. Some herbs may increase the severity of Cytokine Storm. (for example Elderberry which boosts the immune system, but also increases pro-inflammatory Cytokine production)
Other herbs may decrease the severity of Cytokine Storm (for example turmeric)

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SUMMARY OF HERBS, COLLECTED ON THIS THREAD FROM VARIOUS GLP MEMBERS/ AC'S, TO PROTECT, TREAT & RECOVER from COVID-19 (updating...)

WARNING!!!

Some of the herbs listed here may cause serious side effects and danger to your health, depending on the dosage, length of period taken and other factors such as allergy, sensitivity of certain organs (such as heart, stomach or kidney), wrong method of usage, or if taken with other medicine. Especially during pregnancy caution is advised. I highly recommend to through roughly do your own research and if in doubt, consult with herbal experts or medical professionals first.

Please also make sure to check and to be aware of the legal status of herb, listed for your country, should you decide to obtain it.

PLANTS, ROOTS & SPICES

-CINCHONA BARK, native to Andes Mountains - South America. historically used since hundreds of years as a medicine for Malaria. The bark contains alkaloids, including QUININE and quinidin. CHLOROQUINE & HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE is a synthetically manufactured drug, developed based on the chemical structure of quinine (declared to be a potential cure vs COVID-19 by US President Donald Trump).
Besides its main alkaloid quinine (anti-inflammatory, anti-viral and antimalarial) here are other compounds found in the Cinchona Bark:
Caffeic: antioxidant, anti-inflammatory, anticancer, and antiviral
Chlorogenic: Reduces blood pressure
Protocatechuic p-coumaric acid: A phenolic acid (anticancer) also found in honey
Epicatechin: potent antioxidants, with antiviral, antimalarial and anticarcinogenetic properties.
Triterpene: anti-inflammatory, anti-diabetic, anti-cancer, helps with regulation of immune function.
Quinovic Acid: Shown to be effective against general inflammatory conditions, and cancer
Anthocyanins: A type of flavonoid with anti-oxidant effects. May offer anti-inflammatory, anti-viral, and anti-cancer benefits. To treat high blood pressure, colds, and urinary tract infections.
Cinchonine: An alkaloid, anti-inflammatory, anti-malarial, anti-cancer, may be especially effective to prevent obesity
Liriodenine: antimicrobial, anti fungal, antibiotic.
Cinchophylline: Amoebicidal (used to eradicate the parasitic species of amebae in animals or humans) and Cytotoxic (toxic to living cells)
Proanthocyanidin: May protect the heart and cardiovascular system. They may work as antioxidants. Reduces risk of cancer and other age related problems.
Quinovin: A bitter which increases secretion of gastric juice, thus helps to fight bacterial and virus infection (fever & flu) and increases appetite.
Catechic Tannis: An anti-oxidant flavonoid. Catechins are natural antioxidants that help prevent cell damage and provide other benefits.
Reference & Links on page 11 at following thread: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
*a recipe for Cinchona Bark provided by member "Jake" in third post below.

-TURMERIC (the root of a native Indian plant, spread to South East Asia.) Turmeric's main compound Curcumin is anti-inflammatory, boosts immune system via antioxidant, antiviral and antibacterial properties. It makes it more difficult for viruses to "dock" on human cells. May help to treat lung diseases. In use as effective virus cure and other medicinal uses since thousands of years. For example, in Indian sanskrit it has 53 different names, such as jayanti (one that wins over diseases), jawarantika (which cures fevers), mehagni (killer of fat), vishagni (killer of poison) or shiva (gracious). Turmeric is heavily used as daily kitchen spice across South and South East Asian cultures.
Turmeric and its compounds shown to suppress production of pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
*a recipe for golden turmeric drink provided in third post below

-GINGER (anti-inflammatory, breaks down mucus, improves circulation and respiratory system. Short term it neither reduces nor increases Cytokines production. However, research show that pro-inflammatory Cytokine levels in chronic diseases reduce after 3 months of continuous ginger intake: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
*Ginger Drink Recipe in third post below

-BLACK PEPPER & PEPPERCORN (long term lung tissue builder, clears respiratory system and boosts immunity. Capsaicin, the active ingredient in pepper inhibits pro-inflammatory Cytokine production: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

-KALANCHOE PINATA (a plant native to madagaskar but distributed in many tropical countries, antiviral, antioxidant, antimicrobial, anti-inflammaotary, also used to treat respiratory diseases and infections. May be effective at inhibiting all types of pro-inflammatory Cytokine production: [link to www.hindawi.com (secure)]

-TOBACCO (hotly disputed for obvious reasons. I found that much information is suppressed and contra, your own research to make an informed decision is suggested. However, this is an anti-influenza & virus thread, hence I am including this information. Tobacco has several Alkaloids which may have a strong ability to suppress pro-inflammatory Cytokyine overproduction and also reduces neurological inflammation, among them: Nicotine, Harmala, Anatabine, Cotinene)
Lots of information and reference links here: Thread: CoViD-19 Appears to Affect Smokers Less

-MILKWEED(Asclepias is another plant used by native american medicine but also European Pioneers, the root could be used against a wide range of respiratory and lung conditions and may be specifically effective against pleurisy, inflammation of the lining of the lungs. It has varrying degrees of toxicity, and needs an expert forager to harvest. It has many active ingredients including flavonoids. Very little studied scientifically, i could not find an observed Cytokine production effect, however this plant could be very useful during Cytokine storm due its anti-inflammatory and specifically protects lymph nodes and optimizes lymph drainage from the lungs: [link to books.google.co.id (secure)] )

-TONGKAT ALI (E. longifolia is an aphrodisiac plant found in the jungles of south east asia, which has antioxidant, antiviral and anticancerous properties/ treatment for lung cancer. The Alcaloids in this plant successfully keeps Cytokine networks from overproduction of pro-inflammatory Cytokines during septic shock: [link to www.apjtb.org] )

-CHAPARRAL (a desert plant from west america used by native americans, but also ancient chinese, egyptians and assyrians, has lung detox benefits, anti-oxidant, used to treat tuberculosis and may also be useful for neurological diseases. L. tridentata leaves have demonstrated to inhibit pro-inflammatory Cytokine production: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] )

-NEEM (a native indian mahogany tree, used in ayurvedic medicine has detoxifying effect, immune booster, supports the respiratory system, anti-inflammatory, antibacterial and antioxidant, may also be used for treatment of cancer and prevents the release of pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.preprints.org (secure)] )

-ANDROGRAPHIS (some members on this thread swear to its antiviral effectiveness, especially against cold and flu.
Andrographis paniculata
, commonly known as creat or green chireta. Native to India and Sri Langka. Traditionally for the treatment of array of diseases such as cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, ulcer, leprosy, bronchitis, skin diseases, flatulence, colic, influenza, dysentery, dyspepsia and malaria, but also upper respiratory infections and potentially HIV infection. It has anti-viral and anti-inflammatory properties and downregulates proinflammatory cytokine production: [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] )

-KRATOM (Mitragyna speciose) is a tropical evergreen tree in the coffee family native to Southeast Asia (Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, and Papua New Guinea). In some countries, the possession of Kratom is illegal due to its opioid effects (including in my country Indonesia where you could get 20 years of jail for possession of it). People use kratom for withdrawal from heroin, morphine, and other opioid drugs, as it effects the same brain receptors as morphine does. In overdoses or chronic use it may be highly dangerous and lethal. However, Kratom has been used in traditional medicine and some people (including several participants on this thread) vouch for its effectiveness and medicinal properties. Scientifically, Kratom does have a total of 30 Alkaloids, among them:
A. Mitragynine: the most abundant alkaloid in Kratom, it has pain-mitigation properties and may increase endurance but may also cause liver problems
B. Hynchophylline and Epicatechin: Anti-inflammatory Agents (Prevents Viruses from attaching to cell walls with their hooks)
C. Isorhynchopylline and Isoptreropodine = Strong immune boosters
Also, Kratom may promote the circulation of blood and improves the oxygen levels (aphrodisiac), hence warding off Fatigue which may be caused by COVID-19
[link to thriveglobal.com (secure)]
[link to pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
[link to jaoa.org (secure)]
In summary, I find it strange that so many websites try to discredit Kratom as an evil tree with no medicinal uses (including Wikipedia). Even though, science research shows that Kratom does have those effective Alkaloids which may have the ability to inhibit COVID-19 (big pharma play again?). Your own informed research is suggested, both legally and health-wise, if you decide to use Kratom.

ESSENTIAL OILS
Tip: only get the high quality oils. Not the scented ones. Check out the THIEVES OIL mix of essential oils recipe in third post below, provided by member "Trained Noticer"

-EUCALYPTUS OIL (Eucalyptus, a gum tree native to Australia, used to reduce symptoms of coughs, colds, and congestion. A natural decongestant, antibacterial, antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties. Reduces pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

-OREGANO OIL (boosts immune system, improves respiratory tract, antibacterial, antifungus. Reduces pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.hindawi.com (secure)]

-BLACK SEED OIL (Nigella Sativa evidence of its usage has been found in ancient Egyypt Pharaoh tombs, a plant native to middle east, but also east europe and west asia. It is used for respiratory illness for example bronchitis and asthma, clears the respiratory track and may have antiviral properties. Reduces pro-inflammatory Cytokines and increases anti-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] )

-CLOVE OIL derived from the Clove Tree (Syzygium aromaticum), native to South East Asia. It is anti-microbial, anti-fungal, antiviral, also has anti-inflammatory agents. It is known to ease respiratory issues and has a cooling effect. (Side note: in Indonesia Clove cigarettes, a tobacco-clove mix are highly popular). Also inhibits the production of pro-inflammatory Cytokines. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

-LEMON OIL helps to breathe easier and soothes sore throats. Rich in Vitamin C, it has anti-fungal, anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory properties. Also shown to be somewhat effective in treating Herpes Virus. Research shows its potential to decrease pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]

-CINNAMON OIL (derived from Cinnamon, a spice obtained from the inner bark of several tree species from the genus Cinnamomum. It has been known from remote antiquity/ 2000 BC – Ancient Egypt). Cinnamon Oil compounds include Cinnamaldehyde, which has been found to reduce inflammation and act as an antimicrobial. A natural remedy for health concerns ranging from cough and colds to constipation. Research shows that Cinnamaldehyde inhibits pro-inflammatory cytokines secretion: [link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]

-ROSEMARY OIL (Salvia Rosmarinus native to Asia and Mediterranean, evidence of human usage of Rosemary found as early as 5000 BC). Among its medicinal benefits, as aromatherapy shown to support respiratory function, may improve brain function and improves blood circulation. Anti-inflammatory, its active compound Oleanolic acid has displayed antiviral activity against various viruses. Has some minor effects on lowering production of pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

-TEA TREE OIL extracted from the leaves of the tea tree (Melaleuca alternifolia - native to certain parts in Australia). Historically used among numerous Aboriginal communities, the use of the name probably originated from Captain James Cook. Tea Tree Oil can inhibit the growth of bad bacteria that cause sinus infections and respiratory issues. Crushed tea tree leaves have been inhaled by Australian Aborigines to treat coughs and colds, and inhaling tea tree oil may also help to ease the effects of a cough The oil possesses antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, antiviral, and antifungal properties. Terpinen-4-ol, a main constituent of tea tree oil, suppresses inflammatory reactions and has suppressive activity of pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

HERBS

-THYME (reduces lung secretions, being antimicrobial, and relaxes bronchial muscle, also research shows it reduces pro-inflammatory Cytokines: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

-LOMATIUM/ Lomatium dissectum/ Leptotaenia dissecta (starchy "biscuit root", or wild parsley, actually traditional native american food, may inhibit growth of viruses, and used to treat viral lung infections, pneumonia, tubercolosis, etc.Restraints/Inhibits pro-inflammatory Cytokines : [link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]
There are reports that Lomatium has been highly effective preventing virus outbreak, to certain native american tribes, during the Spanish Influenza 1918)
[link to chasblogspot.blogspot.com]

-OSHA ROOT (Ligusticum porteri brilliant native american medicine again - osha is used for sore throat, bronchitis, cough, common cold, influenza, swine flu, and pneumonia. It is also used to treat other viral infections including herpes and AIDS/HIV. similar to turmeric it shows strong anti-viral properties [link to www.rxlist.com (secure)]
increases production of the anti-inflammatory cytokine thereby reducing pro-inflammatory cytokine , and may protect against cytokine storm [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] warning - especially may not be suitable to be taken during pregnancy (Warning and the Osha Root info provided by member "Bodhi Sita")

-SAGE (Salvia officinalis, which comes from the Latin word “to heal”) is a perennial woody-stemmed herb native to the Mediterranean with a long history of medicinal use. Either sage tea or sage essential oil, derived from the sage leaves, has many benefits. Among them for the respiratory function, such as sore throat, cold, cough and lung problems. Able to resolve excessive mucus and phlegm. Also helps to manage chronic diseases such as asthma, bronchitis, and herpes. Antiviral, anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal properties. It also may have anti- inflammatory activity through the inhibition of pro-inflammatory cytokines: [link to www.yakhak.org]

FUNGI

-USNEA (beard lichen grows all over the world as fungus on bark or twigs,traditionally used in medicine to cleanse lungs, able to resolve phlegm masses and for treatment of pneumonia. It shows anti-inflammatory properties against pro-inflammatory cytokine: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] )

VEGETABLES

-SHALLOT (immune boosting, high concentration of antioxidants/ antiviral & antibacterial)

-GARLIC (immune boosting, antiviral & antibacterial, very effective against fungus)

FRUITS

-APPLES (contains high amounts of antioxidants and flavonoids, which help to protect the lungs and increases lung function)
an apple per day keeps nCoV away - Reinata apples have the highest level of flavonoids, followed by Granny Smith and Red Delicious varieties.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

-ROSE HIPS : The accessory fruit of the rose plant, fresh rose hips contain a lot of vitamin C (Among the highest Vitamin C content in nature), hence they share many uses with vitamin C including preventing and treating colds, flu, and vitamin C deficiencies. A lot of Vitamin C is lost during drying, processing and storage (fresh fruits anyone?). Also available in Tea form, it is rich in anti-oxidants and may reduce inflammation, as well as boost the immune system. Furthermore rich in phenolic compounds, carotenoids, tocopherol, bioflavonoids, tannins, volatile oils and pectins: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] . Rose Hips and its active compounds, shown to inhibit pro-inflammatroy cytokine production: [link to www.dovepress.com (secure)]

OTHER

-HONEY (reduces lung inflammation, helps to break up mucus). there are more then 25,000 different types of bees. Especially Manuka Honey may have antiviral and antibacterial properties
From member "Hawktopus": All honey is different. It depends on what the bees that made it are eating in the area.

-PROPOLIS (Bee Glue another product made by the diligent bees, used since ancient times as medicinal herb, it has anti-inflammatory, for example to help with lung inflammation and may have anti-viral properties)
The composition of propolis is not fixed and varies considerably from region to region... At least 180 different compounds have been identified in propolis so far.
Propolis is reputed to have antiseptic, antibacterial, antimycotic, astringent, spasmolytic, anti-inflammatory, anaesthetic, antioxidant, antitumoural, antifungal, antiulcer, anticancer, and immunomodulatory effects.

[link to www.hindawi.com (secure)]

-GREEN TEA (reduces lung inflammation, increases lung function, protects lung tissue, may help to reduce fluids in lungs)

-MULLEIN TEA (from the plant Verbascum, native to Europe and Asia. Has been used for thousands of years to treat respiratory conditions,reduces inflammation and may posses anti-viral properties) [link to www.healthline.com (secure)]

-Food, which are rich in "CARETONOIDS" like carrots, spinach, kale or pumpkin (antioxidant vitamins are positively associated with lung function and respiratory health)


*Special note: Coloidal Silver. Not included, since it is not a herbal ingredient. Silver is chemical processed and has its element AG on the periodic table. Hence, in my opinion, Coloidal Silver treatment is rather "holistic medicine" and as such many threads discussing its effectiveness as a potential cure/ protection vs COVID-19 , are available on GLP. Thanks for your understanding!
*Since it keeps coming up by posters, here is a lengthy and informative research article about silver nanoparticles anti-viral activity:
"silver nanoparticles were an effective virucidal agent against cell-free virus and cell-associated virus."
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

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RECIPES

1. Golden Turmeric Tea
Ingredients: 4-8 Turmeric roots, tamarind, water

2. Ginger Drink
Ingredients: 1-2 Ginger Roots, palm sugar, water

1. Peel 4-8 pieces of turmeric root and process in blender(the more tumeric the thicker) mix with water, put into pan, add a bit of tamarind .. slow boil until water is reduced by half and filter the resulting "golden tea" to get a clear golden tea. Drink warm. It is important that you boil it slowly, if you boil it too fast, turmeric may loose a lot of its compound curcumin. Tamarind is a souring agent, to make it easier for your body to absorb Turmeric's active ingredient Curcumim, also tamarind helps so that curcumin doesnt get lost in boiling process.

2.peel ginger roots, Crush the ginger, put into pan, add some water, slow boil and mix with palm sugar.. can be put into fridge to make it refreshing.

So basically two drinks i take before i sleep, around 3 - 4 times a week. first i drink the bitter tumeric warm golden tea (half a cup) and afterwards the fresh ginger and palm sugar drink.

*Turmeric drink and ginger drink recipe provided by my lovely wife, taught by her grandmother.

Mix and match the above recipe as you like, try and test around... You could use turmeric powder if no roots available, or normal/ brown sugar if no palm sugar...and add other ingredients like shallot or honey...

*Additional Info supplied by member "Terrabonne" on page 10: "Turmeric is fat-soluble, thus for your body to fully absorb the compounds, you need to mix it with a a fat source, such as lecithin, coconut oil, flax, hemp or olive oil or ghee. When eaten with a healthy fat, your body directly absorbs curcumin into the bloodstream bypassing the liver."
[link to naturalnewsblogs.com (secure)]

3. Chai Tea
An Indian Tea mix, made out of black tea , ginger and spices. Many varieties available with pro-respiratory and anti-viral spices as ingredients.

Some Chai Tea Variations: [link to tea101.teabox.com (secure)]

4. Thieves Oil
A potent mix of respiratory-supportive, anti-viral and anti-inflammatory essential oils. Historically in use during the plagues....

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

*The following recipe for Thieves Oil provided by member "Trained Noticer" on page 9, based on his yearlongs experience with using it:

- 4.0 x Clove oil

- 3.5 x Lemon oil

- 2.0 x Cinnamon oil

- 1.5 x Eucalyptus oil

- 1.0 x Rosemary oil

(x= parts, drops, units, oz, etc.)

Additional info from Trained Noticer:

"Get Very high quality oils. I like the NOW brand, but there are several good suppliers. DO NOT use the cheap hobby oils for scents and candles. No special method. I simply put the appropriate amounts into 4 oz. dropper bottles"

5. Jake's Anti-COVID-19 Recipe (CINCHONA BARK) and Daily Intakes
*Provided by member "Jake" on page 8, based on his 20 year experience as herbalist. Jake states that "you will not catch Coronavirus if you take these."

- Cinchona bark powder (quinine) 500 mg. twice daily

- Angelica Archangelica root powder 500 mg. twice daily.

- Rose Hips powder 500 mgs 4 times daily.

- EGCG with Quercetin by Life extension foundation. 3 times daily.

- Tinospora cordifolia 1 cap twice daily.

- zinc 25 mgs daily

6. Cinchona Bark Decoction to treat fever, by Indian Ayurvedic Doctor "Dr. Vikran Chauhan"
*Found this simple recipe by coincidence while researching compounds of Cinchona Bark, quite similar to Jake's recommended dosage above

"TO TREAT fevers, influenza DECOCTION Put O.5g of finely cut bark into a cup of water. Boil for 3 minutes, then infuse for 10 minutes and sweeten to taste. Drink 3 cups a day, half an hour before meals.

IF SYMPTOMS PERSIST CONSULT A DOCTOR"

[link to www.drvikram.com]

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I think pleurisy root from milkweed, is another one, good for severe pneumonia. European pioneers took it for breathing illnesses.

Noted as unsafe for heart, but heck if your dying coz of virus doesnt really matter eh?

Despite serious safety concerns, pleurisy root is used for coughs, swelling of the lining of the lungs (pleurisy), swelling of the air sacs in the lungs (pneumonitis), swelling of the airways (bronchitis), influenza, and swine flu. It is also used to treat disorders of the uterus, muscle spasms, and pain; to loosen mucus so it can be coughed up; and to promote sweating.


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Lomatium used by native americans during the spanish influenza: [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)]
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Interesting
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1. Ginger (anti oxidant, anti inflammation, cleans excess muccus from lungs)
2. Turmeric (anti viral, anti bacterial)
3. Shallot onion (cleanses throat and helps with throat inflamation)

Garlic and plenty of onion too
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1. Ginger (anti oxidant, anti inflammation, cleans excess muccus from lungs)
2. Turmeric (anti viral, anti bacterial)
3. Shallot onion (cleanses throat and helps with throat inflamation)

Garlic and plenty of onion too
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Mix it with honey for even better results.


When i was a child my mother always fed me with a daily spoon of honey for coughing (also good for immune system) Honey is a proven antioxidant and clears the airways of mucus...

There are many many different types of honey. Honey from wild bees is the best i heard.

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1. Ginger (anti oxidant, anti inflammation, cleans excess muccus from lungs)
2. Turmeric (anti viral, anti bacterial)
3. Shallot onion (cleanses throat and helps with throat inflamation)

Garlic and plenty of onion too
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Mix it with honey for even better results.


Since i am a child my mother always fed me with a spoon of honey for coughing. It is a proven antioxidant and clears the airways of mucus...

There are many many different types of honey. Honey from wild bees is the best i heard
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Tongkat Ali or Pasak Bumi, beside giving back erection for limped dick, is a highly potent anti-viral root herb. They're using it for Malaria in Kalimantan. While it's mostly famous as aphrodisiac for men, the fact is, plenty of women seek this root herb for curing breast cancer. This herb is great for women too. Even plenty of Indonesians like you don't know this.
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6 months of food and water. Liposomal vitamin c is excellent for the lungs,oreganol p73, nebulize colloidal silver for lung infection, garlic and honey for the antibiotics and pure lemon juice
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6 months of food and water. Liposomal vitamin c is excellent for the lungs,oreganol p73, nebulize colloidal silver for lung infection, garlic and honey for the antibiotics and pure lemon juice
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What to do about the potential severe pneumonia though?
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1. Ginger (anti oxidant, anti inflammation, cleans excess muccus from lungs)
2. Turmeric (anti viral, anti bacterial)
3. Shallot onion (cleanses throat and helps with throat inflamation)

Garlic and plenty of onion too
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Mix it with honey for even better results.


Since i am a child my mother always fed me with a spoon of honey for coughing. It is a proven antioxidant and clears the airways of mucus...

There are many many different types of honey. Honey from wild bees is the best i heard
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Tongkat Ali or Pasak Bumi, beside giving back erection for limped dick, is a highly potent anti-viral root herb. They're using it for Malaria in Kalimantan. While it's mostly famous as aphrodisiac for men, the fact is, plenty of women seek this root herb for curing breast cancer. This herb is great for women too. Even plenty of Indonesians like you don't know this.
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Great info! (I keep this ones if i ever reach old age) its a well known aphrodisiac i read.. and also useful to combat lung cancer.

Not quite sure though if it is wise to run around with a hard dick while being highly contagious with n-CoV

Hahaha

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6 months of food and water. Liposomal vitamin c is excellent for the lungs,oreganol p73, nebulize colloidal silver for lung infection, garlic and honey for the antibiotics and pure lemon juice
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What to do about the potential severe pneumonia though?
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Anyway i stick with the herbs, not so sure about having silver residues in my organs..


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Colloidal silver is LIKELY UNSAFE when taken by mouth, applied to the skin, or injected intravenously (by IV). The silver in colloidal silver products gets deposited into organs such as the skin, liver, spleen, kidney, muscle, and brain. This can lead to an irreversible bluish looking skin that first appears in the gums. It can also stimulate melanin production in skin, and areas exposed to the sun will become increasingly discolored

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Black pepper and hot peppers help me, they both work as expectorants. Both for nasal and lungs. The peppers are also loaded with nutrients that are helpfull for our immune system.
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Tongkat Ali or Pasak Bumi, beside giving back erection for limped dick, is a highly potent anti-viral root herb. They're using it for Malaria in Kalimantan. While it's mostly famous as aphrodisiac for men, the fact is, plenty of women seek this root herb for curing breast cancer. This herb is great for women too. Even plenty of Indonesians like you don't know this.
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Great info! (I keep this ones if i ever reach old age) its a well known aphrodisiac i read.. and also useful to combat lung cancer.

Not quite sure though if it is wise to run around with a hard dick while being highly contagious with n-CoV

Hahaha
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That's the beauty of having a hard dick in a pandemic. The viruses thought you're gonna rape them. So they flee from you. And you're infection free while all around you, people are raped by the virus. see how glorious that would be?

Also I think Indonesia won't get any flare of coronavirus coz Indonesia has Nyai Roro Kidul giving protection from the astral world.
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Black pepper and hot peppers help me, they both work as expectorants. Both for nasal and lungs. The peppers are also loaded with nutrients that are helpfull for our immune system.
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Spot on i guess! doing some research peppers is the recommended remedy by Ayurvedic practices (ancient india, yoga, meditation...you get the drift)

Influenze viruses can not be killed by chemicals, antibiotics or even herbal compounds....the only way to tame these diseases is by strengthening your immune system....Pipali (indian species of peppercorn supports lung function, excellent for releasing mucus and clearing airways...

[link to www.banyanbotanicals.com (secure)] (a bit commercial link but it summarizes ayurvedic and it teachings about lung disease nicely)

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Tongkat Ali or Pasak Bumi, beside giving back erection for limped dick, is a highly potent anti-viral root herb. They're using it for Malaria in Kalimantan. While it's mostly famous as aphrodisiac for men, the fact is, plenty of women seek this root herb for curing breast cancer. This herb is great for women too. Even plenty of Indonesians like you don't know this.
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Great info! (I keep this ones if i ever reach old age) its a well known aphrodisiac i read.. and also useful to combat lung cancer.

Not quite sure though if it is wise to run around with a hard dick while being highly contagious with n-CoV

Hahaha
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That's the beauty of having a hard dick in a pandemic. The viruses thought you're gonna rape them. So they flee from you. And you're infection free while all around you, people are raped by the virus. see how glorious that would be?

Also I think Indonesia won't get any flare of coronavirus coz Indonesia has Nyai Roro Kidul giving protection from the astral world.
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Many deities here, and the queen of the southern sea is one of the strongest... Even the king of yogjakarta still has to pay tributes to her...

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6 months of food and water. Liposomal vitamin c is excellent for the lungs,oreganol p73, nebulize colloidal silver for lung infection, garlic and honey for the antibiotics and pure lemon juice
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What to do about the potential severe pneumonia though?
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Anyway i stick with the herbs, not so sure about having silver residues in my organs..

Colloidal silver is LIKELY UNSAFE when taken by mouth, applied to the skin, or injected intravenously (by IV). The silver in colloidal silver products gets deposited into organs such as the skin, liver, spleen, kidney, muscle, and brain. This can lead to an irreversible bluish looking skin that first appears in the gums. It can also stimulate melanin production in skin, and areas exposed to the sun will become increasingly discolored
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Many here in GLP are kinda true believer of Coloidal Silver. SO, I think those have made up their mind to use that. I won't. I prefer Herbs.

Now on Oreganol P73, if you follow discussion here in GLP, it seem to be quite potent and quick acting oil for flu. It's made from Oregano, also a potent herb. It's just that I'm not sure they sell this in Indonesia. It seem to be not popular in Indonesia.

Therer were some GLPers who claimed smoking/Tobbaco/Nicotine will prevent coronavirus infection. Now, this one is simply their claim, no study found for this. But there's a use of tobacco as a natural pesticide. So, perhaps it could kill germs and viruses.
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6 months of food and water. Liposomal vitamin c is excellent for the lungs,oreganol p73, nebulize colloidal silver for lung infection, garlic and honey for the antibiotics and pure lemon juice
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What to do about the potential severe pneumonia though?
 Quoting: Nagabonar666


Anyway i stick with the herbs, not so sure about having silver residues in my organs..

Colloidal silver is LIKELY UNSAFE when taken by mouth, applied to the skin, or injected intravenously (by IV). The silver in colloidal silver products gets deposited into organs such as the skin, liver, spleen, kidney, muscle, and brain. This can lead to an irreversible bluish looking skin that first appears in the gums. It can also stimulate melanin production in skin, and areas exposed to the sun will become increasingly discolored
 Quoting: Nagabonar666

Many here in GLP are kinda true believer of Coloidal Silver. SO, I think those have made up their mind to use that. I won't. I prefer Herbs.

Now on Oreganol P73, if you follow discussion here in GLP, it seem to be quite potent and quick acting oil for flu. It's made from Oregano, also a potent herb. It's just that I'm not sure they sell this in Indonesia. It seem to be not popular in Indonesia.

Therer were some GLPers who claimed smoking/Tobbaco/Nicotine will prevent coronavirus infection. Now, this one is simply their claim, no study found for this. But there's a use of tobacco as a natural pesticide. So, perhaps it could kill germs and viruses.
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Thanks for pointing this out, will include the oregano in summary later. We do have the oregano here but not the oil i guess..

Again i cannot stress more, every disease i am sure nature has an answer... Even multiple different answers from around the world..

evil virus : "n-CoV"
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chaparral and turpentine

dog dew-wormer : fendbedazole
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Howdy I used to get pneumonia every year for five years, twice I had to be hospitalized. My cure IS food grade hydrogen peroxide. It kills viruses, I have been pneumonia free since 2012!! Colloidal Silver used in a nebulizer goes straight to the lungs and stays there embedded to fight off future VIRUS and bacterial infections!! It WORKS and VERY cheap I may add!!!!
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Howdy I used to get pneumonia every year for five years, twice I had to be hospitalized. My cure IS food grade hydrogen peroxide. It kills viruses, I have been pneumonia free since 2012!! Colloidal Silver used in a nebulizer goes straight to the lungs and stays there embedded to fight off future VIRUS and bacterial infections!! It WORKS and VERY cheap I may add!!!!
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Interesting indeed... Official medical reports have to be taken with a grain of salt, after all big pharma controls the news to guard their chemical profit. Will do some more research onyhe colloidal silver :-)

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chaparral and turpentine

dog dew-wormer : fendbedazole
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Nice info..

Chaparral = detox flowering plant for lungs

Turpentine OIL = from pine trees, if used correctly helpful for reducing congestion, but can be dangerous if swallowed or if you have asthma

Fendbedazole = a bit risky i think, a drug for animals, to combat worms, but can beused as anti cancer

For this thread i would rather like to avoid the heavy chemicals due to side effects but great input there, didnt know about chaparral
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Good thread there, i am however looking for more out of the box ideas which could have a very high possibility of beating this virus and later summarize in the second post. For example the native american tribe which used "lomatium" reportedly did not have spanish influenza 1918 infected, even though other tribes were highly suspectible to it.

-herbs and medicines used by the ancients
-exotic spices, flowers and plants
-medicinal practices that gets mixed with spirituality from various and different cultures around the world
-brilliant and simple ideas of herbal recipes (druid book anyone?)

"The rare black orchid" of the deepest jungle

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Thyme tea is good as well.

About the blue colouring of ionic silver, I read that was a myth, related to the fact that the silver fluid had the wrong chemical composition.
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Since the coronavirus (2019-nCoV) we have learned that it is more or less a virus, which in serious cases causes problems to the lungs and respitoritary system.

We have also learned that right now there is no official cure or vaksin available, hence the suggested method of healing is "supportive" and not "combative" (quoting 001 ;-) ). I would thus like to make a thread on natural remedies/ herbs and herbals which may strengthen the lungs and respiratory, to help survive a potentially deadly virus infection.

Any comment or experience about "strengthening your respiratory and immune system via natural remedies and herbals" please feel free to share!

I will start with known herbalistics from Indonesia that could help strengthen and cleaning the lungs. Keep in mind that Indonesia has hundreds, if not thousands of years of experience in using herbal ingredients in medicine provided by its vast jungles and rich nature, for example "Jamu": [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

On top of it indonesians are used and highly experienced, to some of the worst infections and viruses still making its rounds here as i write this (dengue fever, malaria, zika virus, rabies with 100% mortality rate just to name a few) also experienced all kind of viruses coming down from china in the past (SARS, MERS, avian flu, pig flu, etc etc). Hence people here are actually pretty relaxed and making fun bout Corona.

Anyway, if you are interested, do a bit of research on your own... You can make many types of drink and tea mixes (recommend daily intake) with any of the following:

1. Ginger (anti oxidant, anti inflammation, cleans excess muccus from lungs)
2. Turmeric (anti viral, anti bacterial)
3. Shallot onion (cleanses throat and helps with throat inflamation)

"Jamu" recipe (use translate) with above ingredients: [link to jabar.tribunnews.com (secure)]

4. Apple (rich in phenolic acid and flavonoids, known to help control lung inflammation , to help with asthma)

5. Garlic (rich in allicin, useful against bacterial lung infection)

6. Green tea (removes fluids from lungs)

7. Food rich in "Carotenoids" like carrots, spinach, kale or pumpkin (antioxidant vitamins are positively associated with lung function and respiratory health)

8.And the best one i put at last, we call it in Indonesia "cocor bebek (duck leave)" , latin: "kalanchoe pinnata", and it supposed to have mystical healing properties for injured or sick lungs.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

A recipe for this one:

[link to m.liputan6.com (secure)]

So you see.. coronavirus might be all doom & gloom, but i strongly believe that for every sickness, nature already prepared the answer loooong in advance... So cheer up, positive thinking and stay healthy
 Quoting: Nagabonar666

thank you
got worst flu/viral pneumonia of my life
5 stars and gratitude for this info for lungs

can you translate recipe for duck leaf remedy?
tia
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Howdy I used to get pneumonia every year for five years, twice I had to be hospitalized. My cure IS food grade hydrogen peroxide. It kills viruses, I have been pneumonia free since 2012!! Colloidal Silver used in a nebulizer goes straight to the lungs and stays there embedded to fight off future VIRUS and bacterial infections!! It WORKS and VERY cheap I may add!!!!
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I'm on a budget and need to buy a nebulizer for colloidal silver.
what do you recommend?
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Thanks for this post!

I just took some hot water and mixed in raw apple cider vinegar, raw honey, and organic powdered turmeric, ginger and cinnamon. It tastes really good like tart apple cider. I put some over ice and gave it to my two year old and he loves it. I will make sure we drink some every evening.
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