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Maiya
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My hubby recently ran into a great deal....15 tons of organic wheat. He got as much as we could - eight 5 gallon buckets. Organic. Raw. Dry. It was free for the taking. The owner of the wheat didn't want it and it was just sitting there in the large container (hubby works the docks) and owner wanted to throw it out! It has not been contaminated. It looks pure, like wheat berries.

It is sitting in my kitchen in the 5 gallon buckets I had. I haven no idea of how to store it....or what to do.

I need a Mormon to tell me how to store it or a food guru. I have a grinder. I have not touched it. I have plenty of food DE on hand.

Help.
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You can just keep it in those buckets, or certified food storage buckets. Cool and dry. You can also buy desiccants for it. Read on the net about long term storage for grains. Do not grind your flour to store it. Whole wheat flour will go bad as the oil in the germ goes rancid. Leave it in natures packaging for long term.
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You can just keep it in those buckets, or certified food storage buckets. Cool and dry. You can also buy desiccants for it. Read on the net about long term storage for grains. Do not grind your flour to store it. Whole wheat flour will go bad as the oil in the germ goes rancid. Leave it in natures packaging for long term.
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Luckily I have an awesome basement. Right now the wheat berries sit in their 5 gallon buckets with lids. Buckets are food grade. Do I need to put DE in them and if so, how much?
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You can just keep it in those buckets, or certified food storage buckets. Cool and dry. You can also buy desiccants for it. Read on the net about long term storage for grains. Do not grind your flour to store it. Whole wheat flour will go bad as the oil in the germ goes rancid. Leave it in natures packaging for long term.
 Quoting: Lily 75944363


Luckily I have an awesome basement. Right now the wheat berries sit in their 5 gallon buckets with lids. Buckets are food grade. Do I need to put DE in them and if so, how much?
 Quoting: Maiya

Depends on if you think it has been exposed to weevils already. They can't get into a sealed bucket, but they'll happily go to town for years on the air supply inside.

More important to get something to keep them dry from moisture in the air. Can't hurt to dust them with DE though, as long as you don't expose your lungs when grinding the berries later on.
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My hubby recently ran into a great deal....15 tons of organic wheat. He got as much as we could - eight 5 gallon buckets. Organic. Raw. Dry. It was free for the taking. The owner of the wheat didn't want it and it was just sitting there in the large container (hubby works the docks) and owner wanted to throw it out! It has not been contaminated. It looks pure, like wheat berries.

It is sitting in my kitchen in the 5 gallon buckets I had. I haven no idea of how to store it....or what to do.

I need a Mormon to tell me how to store it or a food guru. I have a grinder. I have not touched it. I have plenty of food DE on hand.

Help.
 Quoting: Maiya




I use Bay Leaves around all dry goods in storage. I place the leaves on the shelves, and in some of the containers to keep out unwanted bugs.
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I am not a Mormon, but I have stored wheat berries before. If properly stored, they will last for decades.

It's best to store them in a no-oxygen environment. You can vacuum-seal them, or nitro-pack them. Or you can pack them with oxygen-absorbers in an air-tight container.

An excerpt from the LDS Website: (<50%)

Foods Lasting 30 Years or More:

Properly packaged, low-moisture foods stored at room temperature or cooler (24°C/75°F or lower) remain nutritious and edible much longer than previously thought, according to findings of recent scientific studies. Estimated shelf life for many products has increased to 30 years or more (see chart below for new estimates of shelf life).

Previous estimates of longevity were based on "best-if-used-by" recommendations and experience. Though not studied, sugar, salt, baking soda (essential for soaking beans), and vitamin C in tablet form also store well long-term. Some basic foods do need more frequent rotation, such as vegetable oil every 1 to 2 years.

While there is a decline in nutritional quality and taste over time, depending on the original quality of food and how it was processed, packaged, and stored, the studies show that even after being stored long-term, the food will help sustain life in an emergency.

Food New "Life-Sustaining" Shelf-Life Estimates (in Years)

Wheat 30+
White rice 30+
Corn 30+
Sugar 30+
Pinto beans 30
Rolled oats 30
Pasta 30
Potato flakes 30
Apple slices 30
Non-fat powdered milk 20
Dehydrated carrots 20

Product Recommendations:

The following suggested amounts are for one adult.

Quantity for One Month Recommended Products Long-Term Storage Life

11.5 kg./ 25 lbs Wheat, white rice, corn, and other grains 30+ years
2.5 kg. / 5 lbs Dry beans 30+ years

You may also want to add other items to your longer-term storage such as sugar, nonfat dry milk, salt, baking soda, and cooking oil. To meet nutritional needs, also store foods containing vitamin C and other essential nutrients.

Packaging Recommendations:


Recommended containers for longer-term storage include the following:

Foil pouches (available through Church Distribution Services)
PETE bottles (for dry products such as wheat, corn, and beans)

These containers, used with oxygen absorber packets, eliminate food-borne insects and help preserve nutritional quality and taste.

Under certain conditions, you can also use plastic buckets for longer-term storage of wheat, dry beans, and other dry products.

Warning: Botulism poisoning may result if moist products are stored in packaging that reduces oxygen. When stored in airtight containers with oxygen absorbers, products must be dry (about 10% or less moisture content).

Storage Conditions:

Storage life can be significantly impacted by the following conditions:

Temperature: Store products at a temperature of 75°F/24°C or lower whenever possible. If storage temperatures are higher, rotate products as needed to maintain quality.
Moisture: Keep storage areas dry. It is best to keep containers off of the floor to allow for air circulation.
Light: Protect cooking oil and products stored in PETE bottles from light.
Insects and rodents: Protect products stored in foil pouches and PETE bottles from rodent and insect damage.

Dry Products for Longer-Term Food Storage:


Products intended for longer-term storage must be dry (about 10% or less moisture content).

Warning: Botulism poisoning may result if moist products are stored in packaging that reduces oxygen.

Dry products that are not suitable for longer-term storage due to moisture content, oils, or other concerns include:

Barley, pearled
Meat, dried (such as jerky)
Eggs, dried
Nuts
Flour, whole wheat
Rice, brown
Grains, milled (other than rolled oats)
Sugar, brown
Granola
Vegetables and fruits, dehydrated (unless dry enough, inside and out, to snap when bent)

PETE Bottles For Longer-Term Storage:

Bottles made of PETE (polyethylene terephthalate) plastic can be used with oxygen absorbers to store products such as wheat, corn, and dry beans. PETE bottles are identified on the container with the letters PETE or PET under the recycle symbol.

Other types of plastic bottles typically do not provide an adequate moisture or oxygen barrier for use with oxygen absorbers. Do not use containers that were previously used to store nonfood items.

PETE bottles can also be used for shorter-term storage (up to 5 years) of other shelf-stable dry foods such as white rice.

Moisture content of stored foods should be about 10 percent or less. When moist products are stored in reduced oxygen packaging, botulism poisoning may occur.

Packaging in PETE Bottles:

Use PETE bottles that have screw-on lids with plastic or rubber lid seals. You can verify that the lid seal will not leak by placing a sealed empty bottle under water and pressing on it. If you see bubbles escape from the bottle, it will leak.

Clean used bottles with dish soap, and rinse them thoroughly to remove any residue. Drain out the water, and allow the bottles to dry completely before you use them for packaging food products.

Place an oxygen absorber in each bottle. The absorbers can be used with containers of up to one-gallon capacity (4 liters).

Fill bottles with wheat, corn, or dry beans.

Wipe top sealing edge of each bottle clean with a dry cloth and screw lid on tightly.

Store the products in a cool, dry location, away from light.

Protect the stored products from rodents.

Use a new oxygen absorber each time you refill a bottle for storage.
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Get some hops and make beer.

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My hubby recently ran into a great deal....15 tons of organic wheat. He got as much as we could - eight 5 gallon buckets. Organic. Raw. Dry. It was free for the taking. The owner of the wheat didn't want it and it was just sitting there in the large container (hubby works the docks) and owner wanted to throw it out! It has not been contaminated. It looks pure, like wheat berries.

It is sitting in my kitchen in the 5 gallon buckets I had. I haven no idea of how to store it....or what to do.

I need a Mormon to tell me how to store it or a food guru. I have a grinder. I have not touched it. I have plenty of food DE on hand.

Help.
 Quoting: Maiya


Well you should find plenty of them in here.

Do you need a reference, Durden?
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The problem is weevil eggs are already in the wheat and will hatch if not stored properly. To be safe, freeze for two weeks before storing. That kills the eggs. I do that with any cake or muffin mixes or Bishop I am going to store in my pantry cupboard.
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Not bishop, BISQUIK
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Not bishop, BISQUIK
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The problem is weevil eggs are already in the wheat and will hatch if not stored properly. To be safe, freeze for two weeks before storing. That kills the eggs. I do that with any cake or muffin mixes or Bishop I am going to store in my pantry cupboard.
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waitwhat
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My Uncle told me that during the depression, they lived on wheat. Soak it in water overnight, heat it up and put honey, cream, sugar, raisins, or whatever with it, and eat it. He said they thrived on this food! Was all they had for the better part of 3 years.
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You should have researched this info yrs ago but whatever ya gotta eat bliss beware ltana
On the other hand, I have different fingers.
Maiya  (OP)
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02/09/2020 09:35 AM

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Thank you everyone. I put two if the 5 gallon buckets in the freezer last night, and will freeze all of them. Freezer is only 7 cubic feet.
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