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WW3 TAKE A BREAK FROM ERDOGAN! US SOLDIERS WOUNDED DURING RUSSIAN CHASE IN NORTHEAST SYRIA! KURDS BLOWN UP TURKISH FACILITIES IN TURKISH CITIES.

 
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Please give a verse that supports the icon worshipping. I gave you proof that debunks your belief, but you do not care,but you still call me brainwashed. Support your belief please, without "holy tradition".

I am Christian
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You failed to do your research. And you call yourself a... Christian? What sect? Jehova witnesses? Do your homework and search for the word carve and icon. FYI, Christianity which you pretend to belong to is comprised of The Holy Bible plus The Holy Tradition that contains ICONOGRAPHY!!!!!!! HELLLLOOOO!!! RING A BELL??? AFTER OVER 2000 YEARS SOME LUNATIC WITH ISRAELITES SO-CALLED STUDIES COMES TO CONTEST THE POWER OF OUR HOLY ICONS. SHAME ON YOU...
JESUS CHRIST IS TELLING YOU, WHAT??? TO GO FOR PENNSYLVANIA ...?
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I have done a search in the bible with the word carved and molten, they are related to idol worshiping. I requested a passage from you that supports the praying to the icons (this is by definition, idol worshipping), but you seem to not give me any. No, Christianity does not have any "Holy Tradition", Orthodoxy have.
And because you seem to be proud of the Orthdoxx church, please take a look at the "holy tradition". Desgusting
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You forgot telling me the name of the sect you belong to. Are you ashamed of? You may be disgusted but, do we have to care for your aesthetics? FYI there is a huge fight and competition to get a relic of a saint. The saints are not stinking unlike the common deads. They ooze that holy perfumed oil of a Holy fragrance, everyone wants to get a small part of it. The Saints of the Romanian Communist Prisons work for Romania and for the strayed minds and souls if you know what I mean.
Holy Father Archimandrite Justin Parvu was imprisoned for 16 years for his trust in God. He was tortured and humiliated by the slaves of the israelites the ones which, just like you, refused the Orthodox Christianity.
Coming back to icons and this is the final reply from me: The big picture of Holy Father Justin Parvu, being put on his armchair after his death, started to eliminate TEARS FOR ROMANIA. It happened in 2013.
Holy Father Arsenie Papacioc told us to refuse to talk to the devil and to even refuse to put our signature next to the devils, although we both might confess on that paper that God is REAL.
We will continue to venerate the saints in front of icons asking for their help. Some icons have a HUGE POWER, BEYOND ANY DOUBT. Learn even from the very recent Beirut attack before you try to impose your heresy. Your ideas have been defeated since 375.
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First, stop calling me a sectarian, you as well are a sectarian reported to the doctrines of the Catholics, for example, search the definition, please.
Second, you did not present any verse that supports praying to icons. Moreover, if there would be a verse that supports the praying to the icons, you only can pray to the Father, as Lord Christ said, "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Matthew 6:6", not to the saints or Mary or even Lord Jesus, but only to the Father.
Third, I am a non-denominational Christian.
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You failed to do your research. And you call yourself a... Christian? What sect? Jehova witnesses? Do your homework and search for the word carve and icon. FYI, Christianity which you pretend to belong to is comprised of The Holy Bible plus The Holy Tradition that contains ICONOGRAPHY!!!!!!! HELLLLOOOO!!! RING A BELL??? AFTER OVER 2000 YEARS SOME LUNATIC WITH ISRAELITES SO-CALLED STUDIES COMES TO CONTEST THE POWER OF OUR HOLY ICONS. SHAME ON YOU...
JESUS CHRIST IS TELLING YOU, WHAT??? TO GO FOR PENNSYLVANIA ...?
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I have done a search in the bible with the word carved and molten, they are related to idol worshiping. I requested a passage from you that supports the praying to the icons (this is by definition, idol worshipping), but you seem to not give me any. No, Christianity does not have any "Holy Tradition", Orthodoxy have.
And because you seem to be proud of the Orthdoxx church, please take a look at the "holy tradition". Desgusting
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: AndrewDobre2000

You forgot telling me the name of the sect you belong to. Are you ashamed of? You may be disgusted but, do we have to care for your aesthetics? FYI there is a huge fight and competition to get a relic of a saint. The saints are not stinking unlike the common deads. They ooze that holy perfumed oil of a Holy fragrance, everyone wants to get a small part of it. The Saints of the Romanian Communist Prisons work for Romania and for the strayed minds and souls if you know what I mean.
Holy Father Archimandrite Justin Parvu was imprisoned for 16 years for his trust in God. He was tortured and humiliated by the slaves of the israelites the ones which, just like you, refused the Orthodox Christianity.
Coming back to icons and this is the final reply from me: The big picture of Holy Father Justin Parvu, being put on his armchair after his death, started to eliminate TEARS FOR ROMANIA. It happened in 2013.
Holy Father Arsenie Papacioc told us to refuse to talk to the devil and to even refuse to put our signature next to the devils, although we both might confess on that paper that God is REAL.
We will continue to venerate the saints in front of icons asking for their help. Some icons have a HUGE POWER, BEYOND ANY DOUBT. Learn even from the very recent Beirut attack before you try to impose your heresy. Your ideas have been defeated since 375.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32421639


First, stop calling me a sectarian, you as well are a sectarian reported to the doctrines of the Catholics, for example, search the definition, please.
Second, you did not present any verse that supports praying to icons. Moreover, if there would be a verse that supports the praying to the icons, you only can pray to the Father, as Lord Christ said, "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Matthew 6:6", not to the saints or Mary or even Lord Jesus, but only to the Father.
Third, I am a non-denominational Christian.
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I am not reading your pagan denomi... what.
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I have done a search in the bible with the word carved and molten, they are related to idol worshiping. I requested a passage from you that supports the praying to the icons (this is by definition, idol worshipping), but you seem to not give me any. No, Christianity does not have any "Holy Tradition", Orthodoxy have.
And because you seem to be proud of the Orthdoxx church, please take a look at the "holy tradition". Desgusting
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: AndrewDobre2000

You forgot telling me the name of the sect you belong to. Are you ashamed of? You may be disgusted but, do we have to care for your aesthetics? FYI there is a huge fight and competition to get a relic of a saint. The saints are not stinking unlike the common deads. They ooze that holy perfumed oil of a Holy fragrance, everyone wants to get a small part of it. The Saints of the Romanian Communist Prisons work for Romania and for the strayed minds and souls if you know what I mean.
Holy Father Archimandrite Justin Parvu was imprisoned for 16 years for his trust in God. He was tortured and humiliated by the slaves of the israelites the ones which, just like you, refused the Orthodox Christianity.
Coming back to icons and this is the final reply from me: The big picture of Holy Father Justin Parvu, being put on his armchair after his death, started to eliminate TEARS FOR ROMANIA. It happened in 2013.
Holy Father Arsenie Papacioc told us to refuse to talk to the devil and to even refuse to put our signature next to the devils, although we both might confess on that paper that God is REAL.
We will continue to venerate the saints in front of icons asking for their help. Some icons have a HUGE POWER, BEYOND ANY DOUBT. Learn even from the very recent Beirut attack before you try to impose your heresy. Your ideas have been defeated since 375.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32421639


First, stop calling me a sectarian, you as well are a sectarian reported to the doctrines of the Catholics, for example, search the definition, please.
Second, you did not present any verse that supports praying to icons. Moreover, if there would be a verse that supports the praying to the icons, you only can pray to the Father, as Lord Christ said, "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Matthew 6:6", not to the saints or Mary or even Lord Jesus, but only to the Father.
Third, I am a non-denominational Christian.
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I am not reading your pagan denomi... what.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32421639


At least next time when you present some assertions, please give some good arguments, otherwise is just prideful ignorance
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You forgot telling me the name of the sect you belong to. Are you ashamed of? You may be disgusted but, do we have to care for your aesthetics? FYI there is a huge fight and competition to get a relic of a saint. The saints are not stinking unlike the common deads. They ooze that holy perfumed oil of a Holy fragrance, everyone wants to get a small part of it. The Saints of the Romanian Communist Prisons work for Romania and for the strayed minds and souls if you know what I mean.
Holy Father Archimandrite Justin Parvu was imprisoned for 16 years for his trust in God. He was tortured and humiliated by the slaves of the israelites the ones which, just like you, refused the Orthodox Christianity.
Coming back to icons and this is the final reply from me: The big picture of Holy Father Justin Parvu, being put on his armchair after his death, started to eliminate TEARS FOR ROMANIA. It happened in 2013.
Holy Father Arsenie Papacioc told us to refuse to talk to the devil and to even refuse to put our signature next to the devils, although we both might confess on that paper that God is REAL.
We will continue to venerate the saints in front of icons asking for their help. Some icons have a HUGE POWER, BEYOND ANY DOUBT. Learn even from the very recent Beirut attack before you try to impose your heresy. Your ideas have been defeated since 375.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32421639


First, stop calling me a sectarian, you as well are a sectarian reported to the doctrines of the Catholics, for example, search the definition, please.
Second, you did not present any verse that supports praying to icons. Moreover, if there would be a verse that supports the praying to the icons, you only can pray to the Father, as Lord Christ said, "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Matthew 6:6", not to the saints or Mary or even Lord Jesus, but only to the Father.
Third, I am a non-denominational Christian.
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I am not reading your pagan denomi... what.
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At least next time when you present some assertions, please give some good arguments, otherwise is just prideful ignorance
 Quoting: AndrewDobre2000

You are a satanist coated in phony lies. The only Church which is NOT a sect is the Otho(righteous)-dox. We don't have to talk. Go get your gibberish sectarian studies.
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Armenian defensive lines have been broken due to constant Azerbaijani UAV strikes and aggressive artillery shelling. We should expect announcement of new territories captured by the Azerbaijani forces very soon.

Azerbaijani UAVs continue to destroy Armenian positions in Karabakh region. DEVASTATING LOSS in one day
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Today's confirmed losses on the side of Armenia/Artsakh (although most are earlier losses confirmed through new footage) 4x T-72 2x MT-LB 4x BMP-2 11x BM-21 MRL 1x Unknown MRL 1x BM-30 MRL 1x D-1 gun-howitzer 1x 9K33 SAM 1x S-300 SAM 13x Truck
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First, stop calling me a sectarian, you as well are a sectarian reported to the doctrines of the Catholics, for example, search the definition, please.
Second, you did not present any verse that supports praying to icons. Moreover, if there would be a verse that supports the praying to the icons, you only can pray to the Father, as Lord Christ said, "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. Matthew 6:6", not to the saints or Mary or even Lord Jesus, but only to the Father.
Third, I am a non-denominational Christian.
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I am not reading your pagan denomi... what.
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At least next time when you present some assertions, please give some good arguments, otherwise is just prideful ignorance
 Quoting: AndrewDobre2000

You are a satanist coated in phony lies. The only Church which is NOT a sect is the Otho(righteous)-dox. We don't have to talk. Go get your gibberish sectarian studies.
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Just please stop with the unbiased insults towards the comportment that does not accept pagan worship.
Sry for my mistake:))

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I am not reading your pagan denomi... what.
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At least next time when you present some assertions, please give some good arguments, otherwise is just prideful ignorance
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You are a satanist coated in phony lies. The only Church which is NOT a sect is the Otho(righteous)-dox. We don't have to talk. Go get your gibberish sectarian studies.
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Just please stop with the unbiased insults towards the compartment that does not accept pagan worship.
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Do yourself a favour getting a dictionary too
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Humanitarian truce declared in Nagorno Karabakh from midnight on 18th October.Armenia announces reaching a ceasefire agreement with Azerbaijan.


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At least next time when you present some assertions, please give some good arguments, otherwise is just prideful ignorance
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You are a satanist coated in phony lies. The only Church which is NOT a sect is the Otho(righteous)-dox. We don't have to talk. Go get your gibberish sectarian studies.
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Just please stop with the unbiased insults towards the compartment that does not accept pagan worship.
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Do yourself a favour getting a dictionary too
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I would suggest the same for you, but with the book Two Babylons

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You are a satanist coated in phony lies. The only Church which is NOT a sect is the Otho(righteous)-dox. We don't have to talk. Go get your gibberish sectarian studies.
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Just please stop with the unbiased insults towards the compartment that does not accept pagan worship.
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Do yourself a favour getting a dictionary too
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I would suggest the same for you, but with the book Two Babylons
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Get lost satanic pos
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Armenia: We are ready to provide humanitarian corridors for Azerbaijani forces in Nagorno Karabakh.

5m BREAKING: Tehran declares arms embargo lifted, Iran free to buy & export arms as sees fit. Smells like WW3 AROUND THE 2ND CORNER!!!

Protest ongoing tonight near the private residence of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Jerusalem.The protest started today in Haifa against Azerbaijani war in Nagorno Karabakh and ending tonight in #Jerusalem, initiated by Diaspora Armenians.

6m Following the announcement of the Russian embassy in Athens that Moscow recognizes the legal right of Greece under international law to extend its territorial waters to 12 miles, came the news of Lavrov's visit. Greece Russia

Following the announcement of the Russian embassy in Athens that Moscow recognizes the legal right of Greece under international law to extend its territorial waters to 12 miles, came the news of Lavrov's visit.


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The Russian daily kommersant published an analysis detailing how Turkey prepared the war in Nagorno Karabakh and sent jihadists to the region.
Excellent written good style!

On the night of October 17, the second largest city of Azerbaijan, Ganja, again experienced the events of five days ago. Rocket "Elbrus" again fell on a residential building, forming a huge crater. According to the Azerbaijani authorities, it, like the last one, was launched from the territory of Armenia, and not Nagorno-Karabakh. Another missile flew to neighboring Mingachevir, but it was shot down. According to the authorities, 12 people died and another 40 were injured. Kommersant's correspondent Kirill Krivosheev saw and heard everything from the very beginning: he was less than two kilometers away during the attack.

It is scary to spend the night in Ganja after October 11, when the Elbrus missile (in NATO classification - SCUD) fell on the city, but we, having finished work on Friday, decided to stop here. There is a good hotel here and you can comfortably get to either Baku or the front line - who knows what will have to be done tomorrow? Of course, no one could imagine that we would again find ourselves in the center of events right here. “They can't hit a peaceful city a second time,” we thought.

I was falling asleep when explosions rang out outside the window. There were definitely two, or maybe three. It sounds like ordinary shells, but only ballistic missiles can fly here, 50 kilometers to the front line. Everything became clear at once. The corridor and the lobby of the hotel were immediately filled with people who dressed on the go, in the hotel almost everyone were journalists

When we approached the place, everything was like the last time. Broken glass of a hairdresser's about two hundred meters away, a destroyed store and finally a narrow street leading directly to the epicenter. The police cordon seems to exist, but it does not restrain anyone, and it is impossible to restrain anyone, the stream of people flows directly to the place of the tragedy. Finally, I see ruins, a huge crater and blankets sticking out between the stones. In some places - school notebooks, other personal items. It cannot be anything other than a residential building. Our hotel is less than two kilometers away. It could easily have been us. The rest of the missiles, as it turned out, managed to shoot down on approach.

The stream of men, which flowed with me through the streets, predatory threw itself on the rubble, trying to find the living. I catch myself thinking that they are a single organism that knows exactly what to do, and I am a stranger who does not understand anything at all. We all walk on huge rocks and wooden beams. How do they know which ones to throw aside? I do not notice any landmarks where exactly it is necessary to dig, but they notice. Under the stones there is dust, which they begin to dig with their hands, and from it by some miracle they get people. Doctors run up with stretchers, and an old man is put on them. He seems to be alive, even though his face is bloody. Then a boy is carried by, also alive. But an elderly woman, most likely not. I would like to be mistaken.

"You are from Russia? Guys, tell us honestly, ”an elderly man standing near the funnel addresses us.“ Honestly, not like on Channel One, this Soloviev (TV presenter Vladimir Soloviev works on the Rossiya TV channel, not on Channel One. channel ".—" b "). One of you speaks well - Shevchenko (publicist Maksim Shevchenko - “Kommersant”). Here he speaks correctly. "

I notice a red Labrador: it seems he was looking for people at the site of the previous missile attack. Someone tries to shine with flashlights and shouts: "Is there anyone?" The guy next to me pulls out a family photo album from under the stones and brings it under the lens of a Turkish TV channel's camera. The journalist asks him in detail about what happened, he responds emotionally. "Do you know these people?" - I ask when he finished communicating with colleagues. "No" - he replies and adds - "You support the Armenians!"

Later, I had a chance to fully feel the suspicions of frightened and angry people. Journalists with TV channels' logos and large cameras are not touched - it is immediately clear who they are. But in me you can see anyone, including a spy, a traitor.

At first people in uniform and one in civilian clothes decided to check me right on the rubble, he spoke Russian.

- Where are you from? How did you end up here? He asked, examining the accreditation card.

- From Moscow, journalist.

- You have a strange accent.

I have no idea what accent I might have when speaking Russian.

- Which district, district?

- Moscow.

- Area?

I name the place where I rent an apartment, although this person hardly knows what it is about. For the first time, they politely let me go: "Shoot, show it to the whole world!" But the second time was less lucky.

As I have completely crossed the ruins, I notice a large group of men watching the work from a distance. I decide to talk, but again I come across the question:

- Who are you? Where from?

- Journalist, from Russia, - I speak both Russian and Turkish.

- Will you prove it?

I give the guy an accreditation card. With that, they repeatedly let me through at various checkpoints, but the guy notices a mistake. According to the card, my name is Krivosheev, and my surname is Kirill. In peacetime - nonsense, but in the current conditions - not at all.

- What do you say your name is?

- Kirill.

- And here it says that Krivosheev.

- Well, you know, this is a mistake.

- What could be a mistake ?!

I understand that if my card is taken away, it will take a long time to make a new one, but I need to work here and now. He is shorter and thinner than me, so I decide to take mine right out of his hands. He pulls on himself. His friends around him start to twitch, and a policeman notices this. He takes my card and phone, takes my arm and leads me through the rubble to the street. But the guys follow - they are convinced that they have caught the spy.

Before they pushed me into the car, the police have to push back the pursuers, literally covering me with them, but someone still lightly hit the back of the head. It was the most coveted detention in my life.

Having figured out what happened, they quickly let me go. I return to the place, but everything has already changed there: the volunteers were asked to leave, the rubble is being dismantled by EMERCOM employees in helmets. "Why, why don't they bomb Yerevan?" One woman says to another as we leave.

The Kommersant correspondent does not blame anyone for the incident, he understands the feelings of the residents of Ganja and is deeply grateful to the local police.
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Forcing conflict
Sources of "Kommersant" told how Turkey was preparing the ground for aggravation in Nagorno-Karabakh

Military-diplomatic sources of Kommersant assert that the current serious aggravation of the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh was deliberately planned and provoked by Turkey. According to them, over the past months, Ankara has actively provoked Baku to unleash hostilities under the promise of comprehensive political, diplomatic, intelligence and military-technical support. Earlier, the US and French authorities spoke about Turkey's direct intervention in the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh.

The picture painted by the military-diplomatic sources of Kommersant is as follows. After the completion of the next Turkish-Azerbaijani exercises in July-August, a significant group of the Turkish Armed Forces allegedly remained on the territory of Azerbaijan, which was called upon to play a coordinating and directing role in planning and conducting an offensive operation in Nagorno-Karabakh.

We are talking about 600 military personnel, including a battalion tactical group of 200 people, 50 instructors in Nakhichevan, 90 military advisers in Baku (they provided a liaison in the conduct of hostilities in the brigade-corps-general staff chain); 120 flight personnel at the Gabala airbase; 20 drone operators at the Dallar airfield, 50 instructors at the Yevlakh airfield, 50 instructors in the 4th Army Corps (Pirekeshkul) and 20 people at the naval base and at the Heydar Aliyev military school in Baku. This group allegedly included 18 infantry fighting vehicles, one multiple launch rocket system, ten vehicles and up to 34 aircraft (including 6 aircraft, 8 helicopters, up to 20 drones), which provided military intelligence both in the Karabakh region and in Armenia. ...

In September-October, judging by the data provided by Kommersant, the number of flights of Turkey's military transport aviation to Azerbaijan (mainly in transit through Georgia) increased sharply. In particular, the delivery of people and ammunition was allegedly carried out on September 4 by a C-130 aircraft of the Turkish Air Force, on September 18 by a CN-235 aircraft, on September 25 by an A400M aircraft.
In the midst of hostilities on September 28-30, in addition to the previously arrived military advisers, the commander of the ground forces Umit Dundar and the Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar arrived in Azerbaijan. Kommersant's sources claim that they were in charge of the overall management of the operation on the Karabakh front on the spot.
On September 30, October 1 and 3, the delivery of medicines and small arms, according to them, was carried out by CN-235 planes along the route Etimesgut (Ankara) -Nasosnaya (Haji-Zeynalabdin).
The delivery of personnel and ammunition was allegedly also carried out on October 7 by a C-130 Turkish Air Force (flight TUAF737).
On October 9, as Kommersant's interlocutors say, an Azerbaijani military transport aircraft Il-76TD (flight AZAF002) on the Amman-Baku route transited through Georgia DShK machine guns (200 units) with ammunition.
Earlier, Turkey also sent requests for transit flights through the Georgian airspace on October 14, 21 and 28. Kommersant's sources say that the permits have been obtained.
In addition, Kommersant's interlocutors report that Turkish representatives are recruiting mercenaries to take part in the hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh on the side of Azerbaijan from Islamist groups loyal to Ankara fighting in Syria and Libya. Control over the functioning of the supply chain of mercenaries is allegedly carried out by the Turkish National Intelligence Organization with the support of the forces and means of the Ministry of Defense.

How they live and fight in Nagorno-Karabakh on different sides of the demarcation line
According to Kommersant's interlocutors, during the first week of October, up to 1.3 thousand Syrian militants and at least one group of Libyan mercenaries, numbering 150 people, were deployed to the zone of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. The former were allegedly located mainly in the Terter direction in the Bayandur and Gapanli regions (5 and 10 km southeast of Terter, respectively), and the latter were located in the Jebrail direction in the Karvenda region (250 km west of Baku).

It is reported that the recruitment of Syrian militants is being conducted in Ankara-controlled territories in the north and northwest of Syria by employees of the private military company SADAT with the assistance of field commanders of the Syrian National Army (SNA). The main recruiting points allegedly operate in the cities of Afrin, Al-Bab, Ras al-Ain and Tel Abyad. The gathering of recruits is organized in Afrin, from where, with the help of Turkish transport companies, they are transported to the city of Sanliurfa (Turkey), 40 km from the border with Syria. Further, the mercenaries are airlifted by SADAT chartered charter flights to the conflict zone.

According to Kommersant's sources, recruiters offered a "lifting allowance" in the amount of $ 1,500 and a monthly fee of up to $ 2,000 to those wishing to go to war in the Transcaucasus.
Before being sent to Azerbaijan, they allegedly confiscated identity documents and personal communications from the mercenaries. They were told that their services would be required for a period ranging from three months to six months.

“On September 22, the first group from the 2nd corps of the SNA was sent to Azerbaijan, which underwent a two-week special training under the supervision of Turkish instructors in Syria,” one of Kommersant's interlocutors said.


According to him, until the announcement of a ceasefire in Nagorno-Karabakh, another detachment of Syrian mercenaries, numbering up to 1,500 people, continued to actively form to be sent to Azerbaijan. “This detachment has been formed and can be transferred to the Nagorno-Karabakh region at any time,” the source claims. We are talking about people from the "Failak ash-Sham", "Sultan Murad Brigade", "Firkat Hamza" and "Firkat Suleiman Shah" groups.

Earlier, the British radio station BBC reported that Turkey has transferred 150 militants from the Jaysh al-Sham group from Afrin to Azerbaijan. About 2,000 more people from the Sultan Murad Brigade were preparing for transfer to Karabakh as of early October. The American newspaper The Wall Street Journal also reported this. At the same time, Washington Post journalists, citing the relatives of the Syrian mercenaries, reported that more than 50 of them died during the fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh.

The Armenian authorities have repeatedly said that Turkey is sending mercenaries from Syria and Libya to Nagorno-Karabakh.

US Secretary of State Michael Pompeo also spoke about Turkey's active role in the conflict on Thursday. “Now the Turks have intervened and provided resources to Azerbaijan, thereby increasing the risk, adding fuel to the fire of what is happening in the historical battle in a place called Nagorno-Karabakh - a small territory with a population of about 150 thousand people,” he said in an interview. radio stations WSB.

On the eve of the negative influence of Turkey, French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said. “Foreign interference, in particular Turkey’s intervention, is fueling this escalation and is unacceptable,” he said. Earlier, French President Emmanuel Macron also said that the Turkish authorities are helping to transfer militants from Syria to Azerbaijan.

Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, however, categorically denies that foreign mercenaries are fighting on the Azerbaijani side. “Nobody has provided us with any evidence of the presence of foreign armed formations on the territory of Azerbaijan, which are taking part in the current clashes. Our official position is that we do not have any foreign mercenaries, ”Ilham Aliyev said during a parallel interview with RIA Novosti leaders of Azerbaijan and Armenia.

The statements of the US and French authorities in Azerbaijan were described as unacceptable for countries that seek to act as mediators in the conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh.

The Turkish authorities have also repeatedly called the information that they are helping to send mercenaries from Syria and Libya to Nagorno-Karabakh.

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Turkey's Pr.Erdogan declared today his prophecy that the European Union will cease to exist soon, vows to keep his long arm abroad functioning with all the resources his gov't has at its disposal..

Turkish official speaking to Reuterz:(S400 Tests)- Three S-400 missiles were fired.They all successfully hit their targets. Now, Israel's air defense superiority will disappear from the region. We will have produced our own long-range anti-aircraft system in 2 years

SO THE IMBECILE TURK GIVES HIS COUNTRY 2 MORE YEARS OF CANCER, THEN, DEATH? GOOD!!!

Russian state media confirm that Turkey is the main actor and mastermind of the Nagorno - Karabakh war.
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""Why, why don't they bomb Yerevan?"..."Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, however, categorically denies that foreign mercenaries are fighting on the Azerbaijani side" - usual muzz lying and whining...
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Russian Foreign Minister #Lavrov to visit #Athens on October 26
WHATEVER THAT MEANS!!!


Frontlines are calm. No activity

A sign that says it’s dishonorable to have any Turkish products, a Cafe in Hurghada Egypt

A famous Saudi retail chain has said it has stopped importing #Turkish products amid a high-profile campaign to boycott Turkey over its meddling policies in the region

I remember Hurghada the resort and the village. I had an argument with an old woman coffee seller for not tipping her enough. I told her I am no prince so, since she agreed I told her you are no princess either. She agreed. Very good coffee they had.
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""Why, why don't they bomb Yerevan?"..."Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, however, categorically denies that foreign mercenaries are fighting on the Azerbaijani side" - usual muzz lying and whining...
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The ordinary Muslims are not all bad, but, we can never go along. I remember the scandals I had in Egypt. One was in Cairo, I called the street police and I was given the upper hand although I didn't deserve it 100%, but, the seller of some traditional soft drink was forcing me to pay extra, fact that I am not used to. God I confess I am a sinner! Please Help me!
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""Why, why don't they bomb Yerevan?"..."Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, however, categorically denies that foreign mercenaries are fighting on the Azerbaijani side" - usual muzz lying and whining...
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The ordinary Muslims are not all bad, but, we can never go along. I remember the scandals I had in Egypt. One was in Cairo, I called the street police and I was given the upper hand although I didn't deserve it 100%, but, the seller of some traditional soft drink was forcing me to pay extra, fact that I am not used to. God I confess I am a sinner! Please Help me!
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"ordinary muslims" cheering "non-ordinary muslims", when they chop heads off unbelievers...
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a little off the subject...but....the reason for war... [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] great article.
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a little off the subject...but....the reason for war... [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] great article.
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And when the LORD saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not. (Luke 7:13)

Beloved believers,

Neither the widow of the city of Nain nor any of the many who carried her son to the grave asked the Savior to perform that glorified miracle, to raise the widow's son and give him to his mother. But our Savior Jesus Christ Himself, seeing her weeping, took pity on her, as the divine Gospel says today: And when the Lord saw her, he had pity on her (Luke 7:13). God's mercy is one of the attributes of God's wisdom (James 3:17).

All the attributes of God have their divinity in nature and he did not take them from elsewhere (St. John of Damascus, Dogmatics, book I, C. 14, p. 51). Like the other attributes of God, His mercy has no limits. That is why the Holy Spirit entrusts us, saying: That greater than heaven is Your mercy (Psalm 107, 4; I Paralipomena 16, 34; II Paralipomena 5, 13; 20, 21).

We all know that the greatest mercy and mercy of God was shown by sending His Son to earth to save mankind from the bitter and heavy bondage of the devil (Luke 1: 77-78; Ephesians 2: 4). -6; Titus 3: 5; I Peter 1: 3). That is why God is also called the Father of mercies and God of all comfort (II Corinthians 1: 3).

All nations are obliged to glorify God for His mercy (Romans 15: 9; Isaiah 30:18). God's mercy is from generation to generation on those who fear Him (Psalm 102, 17).

Beloved believers,

When the Savior, having mercy, raised the son of the widow of Nain, by this glorious miracle he brought unspeakable joy and fear, both to the mother of the resurrected child and to all who were present, so that all gave glory to God, saying: The great prophet arose among us that God had searched out His people (Luke 7:16). But is the mercy of God only in one place and at a time shown upon the human race? No, not at all.

The bottomless and boundless ocean of God's mercy and mercy has worked and is working in all places and at all times on all of His buildings, as the divine Scripture says: His mercies are above all things (Psalm 144: 9). ). Who has never seen, in the summer when the great and fiery drought threatens men and their animals, because, according to the testimony of Scripture, the sky, of great drought, becomes like iron and earth like brass (Leviticus 26:19) and all living things on earth to feel the lack of water and food, that as soon as the priests gather the people and pray the rain and the Holy Anointing in the churches, in the field and in the gardens, immediately clouds begin to appear in the sky, gathering and gathering. Then thunder is heard, lightning is seen from east to west, and splashes of water begin to fall, and immediately comes a great and clean rain, which waters the fields, the fields, and the gardens, and brings great joy to the people, plants, and all living things of the earth.

Who then does not know and see in this goodness of God His mercy and love for men? Who among the believers who fear God does not thank from the bottom of his heart the Most Merciful and Almighty God for His mercy and mercy on His buildings? Sometimes, even before the faithful gather for prayer in the church, only looking at the sky and sighing from the bottom of their hearts for lack of water and food, God, as a knower of hearts, looks at their praying hearts. In silence, he immediately sends rain and good weather to the fruit of the earth, bringing comfort and joy to all, both good and bad. And this is because the Lord, according to the testimony of the Holy Scriptures, rains on the righteous and the unrighteous and His sun rises on the good and the wicked (Matthew 5:45).

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...For he sent with him the captains of the host of the king of Assyria, which took him by the sword, and bound him with fetters of iron in Babylon. There, in great distress and anguish, he remembered God and the depth of his iniquities and iniquities which he had done before the Lord in Jerusalem. There he began with great sorrow from the depths of his heart to pray and ask for mercy and mercy from the Most Good God, promising correction with all his heart, and praying, he said:

Lord Almighty, the God of our fathers, of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, and of their righteous seed, Who made heaven and earth with all their adornment; Who hast bound the sea with the word of thy commandment; Who shut up the deep and sealed it with Thy fearful and glorious name, before whom all fear and tremble because of Thy Almighty, for no one can stand before the brightness of Thy glory, and the wrath of Thy wrath is unbearable. to sinners! But immeasurable and inadequate is the mercy of Your promise ...

And because he was bound in chains and could not bend his knees in prayer, he said: But now I bow my knees to my heart, praying for Your goodness. I have sinned, O Lord, I have sinned, and I know my iniquities, but I ask, praying: Forgive me, O Lord, forgive me, and do not lose me in my iniquities, and do not condemn me in the dark under the earth, for You are , God, the God of those who repent. Show me Your goodness over me, save me too unworthy of Your great mercy and I will glorify You in all the days of my life ...

After this humble prayer, Manasseh was listened by God, and not only was He merciful and forgiven of his sins, more than like the sand of the sea, but also out of captivity. the lost kingdom, and to the end of it, reigned over Israel, not ceasing to repent and do all good works for the glory of God.

The parable of King Manasseh, the son of Hezekiah, also urges us to repent, for no one should despair of God's mercy and mercy, even if he were the most sinful man in the world. Only to confess to the clergyman with great repentance with heartache, with the determination not to sin anymore and to fulfill his given canon. So let him hope in the mercy of God, that he will obtain forgiveness of all his sins and the salvation of his soul.

Our most just and Orthodox position towards the mercy of God is this: to strive for the work of all good works; let us hope in the mercy of God not in our good deeds, and in times of falling into sin, let us not despair of His mercy which always helps us in the way of salvation.

Let us remember that if God has mercy on us, we are also obliged to have mercy on our fellow men. There are so many poor people, to help them according to our strength with the necessities of life: a penny, a coat, a bread given, with love. There are so many sick people, let us examine them, comfort them, pray to God for the health and relief of their sufferings. There are so many Christians enslaved to sin, fallen from the right faith, sick at heart. Let us strive to guide them to Christ, to urge them to church, to prayer, to a priest to confess their sins. Let us speak to them of the joy of salvation and the torments of hell; to persuade them to repent and follow Christ in righteous faith. Only in this way can we be saved, for the Lord says: Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. (Matthew 5: 7).

May God bless us with His great mercy, and help us to have mercy so that we may obtain forgiveness and Heavenly Kingdom that will never end. Amen.
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The above sermon which I took the fragment from, was written by
Father Cleopa Ilie; 10 April 1912 – 2 December 1998) was an abbot of the Sihastria Monastery. He was a well-known spiritual representative of the Romanian Orthodox Church.
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St. Luke the Evangelist Commemorated on October 18

The awesome figure of St. Luke looms larger and larger out of both the New Testament and the pages of documented human history so that 2000 years after his death his image has no less been diminished by time than that of the Nazarene, Jesus Christ, whom he so nobly served. His fellow apostle St. Paul called him the 'glorious physician,' but that was only one of the many talents which this magnificent man applied in a service to God. He was a man of such monumental proportion as to make him appear incredible. His many gifts were spiced with unswerving loyalty, prolific creativity, and matchless perfection. Hailing from the ancient city of Antioch, Syria, Luke was a Roman whose early conversion to Christianity is evidenced by his membership in the Christian community of Antioch, prior to his emergence as an apostle, after meeting Paul. He had by that time developed a remarkable command of the Greek language and employed its idiomatic expressiveness in his beautiful narrative form of recording history. He became the Church's most articulate historian and wrote with such sensitivity and clarity that his Gospel in the New Testament has been rightfully called the most beautiful book ever written.

Luke, a physician whose skills healed many of his suffering comrades, joined St. Paul on his second missionary journey, as recounted in the Acts of the Apostles. Their odyssey began in Troas, about 50 A.D., and took them to Philippi, Rome, Caesarea, and ultimately to the Holy Land of Jerusalem. His prominence as a physician obscured his skills as an eloquent orator in the cause of Christ, but he was later to display a considerable talent as an artist whose icon of the Virgin Mary he gave to the Mother of God herself and which is now the prized possession of the Patriarchate of Constantinople, Although his skill as a physician and his talent as an artist may have by themselves given St. Luke a small place in history, it was his consummate gift as a writer that made him one of the greatest figures in,all Christendom. Luke's contribution to the cause of Jesus Christ are beyond all measure, and his early influence on the Christian scene has enabled the Christian Church to rise to its ever increasing influence in human experience. One has only to read the Book of Acts, and his Gospe as well, to realize the stature of this most holy man; however, it is reserved to the privileged few who can comprehend classical Greek that the sheer beauty of his language can be appreciated.

The praises of Luke as a writer may seem excessive, particularly since he is one of many authors represented in the New Testament, chief among whom are St. Matthew (the man), St. Mark (the lion), and St. John (the eagle). Among these, the fourth, St. Luke, suffers in comparison with the title "St. Luke" (the calf). But out of the twenty-seven books comprising the New Testament, none shines with the brilliance of those composed by St, Luke. He is considered to have excelled beyond the others in expressiveness, historical method, sensitivity of narrative, and idiomatic phrasing.

The patron saint of physicians and artists, St. Luke is surrounded by many legends and traditions that have not withstood the test of time. The discounted accounts of his martyrdom must now give way to the actual facts of his life. It is known that he remained a bachelor all of his life, devoting himself to the utmost degree to the cause of Christ. When advancing years curbed his campaigning, he withdrew to write his memorable accounts and died in Thebes at the age of eighty-four.

An appraisal of the contributions to Christianity by St. Luke cannot be measured by the number of words he wrote, the miles he traveled in missionary journeys, or the number of years he spent in exclusive dedication to the service of Jesus Christ. St. Luke, like so many who have given so much to all of us, is not to be appraised, only to be honoured.

from Orthodox Saints by Fr George Poulos
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Beyond any doubt Apostle Luke was an effervescent spirit of an artist looking for expression in all the ways he could have found during his time, including iconography.
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Azerbaijanis are leaving Ganja en masse, the country's second largest city. After a day earlier, Armenia launched a powerful missile strike on the center of the Azerbaijani city of Ganja, the mood quickly turned into panic, as a result of which, already in the morning, tens of thousands of civilians began to evacuate the city - vehicles from the city took two directions of traffic on the local highway at once. ...

Ukraine transferred up to 240 tons of weapons and ammunition to Azerbaijan in less than 72 hours

Turkey deployed 6 F-16 fighters and 8 T-129 attack helicopters to Azerbaijan

The Chechen refugee who decapitated a French history teacher in a Paris suburb on Friday after he showed a caricature of the prophet Muhammad to his pupils. was initially refused asylum by Poland.

45m BREAKING ALERT If the Turkish research ship #OrucReis does not change course, it will approach Hellenic Megisti Island 7 nautical miles. Greece is on high ALERT

Members of the Antifa Terrorists organization attacked supporters of U.S. President Donald Trump The police had to help the patriots & evacuated them from the scene.

China is replacing its old DF-11s and DF-15s & deploying its most advanced hypersonic missile DF-17 in the region. Taiwan Strait

CARIBBEAN SEA, near Trinidad & Tobago, not far from the coast of Venezuela in the Gulf of Paria, the British oil tanker NBO Nabarima, with 1.4 million barrels of oil is leaking.

Chinese forces prepare for possible military invasion of Taiwan as PLA activity increases on southeast coast Fujian prov

3h AFGHANISTAN – Footage from #Ghor, after a car bomb exploded in front of the police HQ. Update: At least 12 civilians have been killed.


As various protests in the Belarusian capital of Minsk have started, armoured personnel carriers (APC) with special forces have been spotted.
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BREAKING – There has been a siginficant increase of #USAF activity in #Iraq and #Afghanistan in the past 48 hours.

More than 30 USAF planes were seen on flight radars around Iran. These aircraft incl. troop-transport aircrafts and heavy bombers.


15h BREAKING – Massive Iranian artillery reinforcements on route to the border with Nagorno-Karabakh

During successful combat operations of Azerbaijani Army in the direction of Fizuli, the military base of Armenian AF was seized. The enemy was forced to flee, leaving combat

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With a letter to the European Council, we request to impose an arms embargo on Turkey.

Mourners Gather in Paris to Pay Homage to Decapitated History Teacher - Video

BM-30 Smerch Russian typhoon, Heavy launcher multi-purpose caliber 300 mm, working in the Syrian Arab Army and one of the longest arms of artillery and missiles
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a little off the subject...but....the reason for war... [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] great article.
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of course I did...and actively participated too.
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Erdogan has strongly criticized Russia, France and the United States, blaming them for providing military support to Armenia in the Karabakh conflict. Turkish static military positions in #Idlib & #Hama are emptied & will be soon delivered to the Syrian Arab Army. Turkey maintains over a dozen of static positions known as 'observation locations' that fell in the government-controlled area after the last advance

Armenia releases footage of Syrian jihadists hired by Turkey on Azerbaijani border - in border guard uniform

Two rockets were fired in the yard of one of the schools in Stepanakert.
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Erdogan has strongly criticized Russia, France and the United States, blaming them for providing military support to Armenia in the Karabakh conflict. Turkish static military positions in #Idlib & #Hama are emptied & will be soon delivered to the Syrian Arab Army. Turkey maintains over a dozen of static positions known as 'observation locations' that fell in the government-controlled area after the last advance

Armenia releases footage of Syrian jihadists hired by Turkey on Azerbaijani border - in border guard uniform

Two rockets were fired in the yard of one of the schools in Stepanakert.
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Kurdish dick in his behind, lying turkish scum megalomaniac. Wish him to end up as Qaddafi did.

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