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BREAK - Philippines TERMINATES Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA) between Manila and Washington

 
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Quick name one US base in the Philippines....

That is still occupied?
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Clark AFB & the US Navy Subic Bay port both decommissioned I think. I believe Clark AFB was decommissioned because of volcanic activity.
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Absolutely correct there are NO US military Bases presently in the Philippines.

Terminating a Visiting Forces Agreement means absolutely nothing right now except now China can annex the Philippines at their leisure.
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


Uhhhh.... we have thousands of troops out there year around.

Occasionally one of them does something stupid and the Filipino press goes ape shit hate against America.

But it won’t mean much to us. Fuck them. Their military will suffer from a lower level of training and readiness.

China started running out of money over a year ago. They will now implode and won’t do shit for the Philippines.
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...@ the internet...1...CLARK AFB & SUBIC BAY NAVAL BASE WERE GIVEN TO CHINA & HAVE BEEN RE-BUILT...2...DUTERTE SAID THE USA IS A RAT-HOLE & HE WILL NEVER RETURN...3...DUTERTE SAID "HE WANTS TO TAKE OUT THE S.O.B. TRUMP"...3...FILIPINOS CONTROL ALL YOUR PASSWORDS & CASH AT U.S. BANKS THRU "OVERSEAS TELEPHONE CUSTOMER SERVICE"...4...FILIPINOS HAVE INFILTRATED U.S. HOSPITALS & HAVE ALREADY STARTED KILLING U.S. PATIENTS...5...FILIPINOS HAVE ALWAYS SECRETLY HATED AMERICANS AND THEY KILLED THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS IN WORLD WAR II ...6...CHINA & FILIPINOS WILL KILL OFF AMERICA VIA BANKS & HOSPITALS......@ THE INTERNET... hidingburnit
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...@ the internet...1...CLARK AFB & SUBIC BAY NAVAL BASE WERE GIVEN TO CHINA & HAVE BEEN RE-BUILT...2...DUTERTE SAID THE USA IS A RAT-HOLE & HE WILL NEVER RETURN...3...DUTERTE SAID "HE WANTS TO TAKE OUT THE S.O.B. TRUMP"...3...FILIPINOS CONTROL ALL YOUR PASSWORDS & CASH AT U.S. BANKS THRU "OVERSEAS TELEPHONE CUSTOMER SERVICE"...4...FILIPINOS HAVE INFILTRATED U.S. HOSPITALS & HAVE ALREADY STARTED KILLING U.S. PATIENTS...5...FILIPINOS HAVE ALWAYS SECRETLY HATED AMERICANS AND THEY KILLED THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS IN WORLD WAR II ...6...CHINA & FILIPINOS WILL KILL OFF AMERICA VIA BANKS & HOSPITALS......@ THE INTERNET... hidingburnit
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bsflag If Filipinos hate Americans, they've been coached by Duturd, because Filipinos are naturally kind people.

And a great big Puck You to Duturde.

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I have some great family history in the Philippines (Spain/US).

I had family interned at Santo Tomas during WWII.

A very close family member ran intel to the resistance.

Another family member was shot by a Japanese sniper and carried fragments of the bullet in her thigh for the rest of her days.

There's a camp there still named after a member of my family.

So, I've got some seriously mixed feelings...

Too much history is repeating itself right now but the P.I. needs to do what the P.I. needs to do.

And China is waiting, right off the coast, to do what it wants to do.

Best of luck.
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USA should get out of all military and financial entanglements that are not part of an America First agenda.
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Quick name one US base in the Philippines....

That is still occupied?
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


Clark and Subic are both decommissioned but I believe the U.S. has a base in the southern Philippines in Mindanao?? Nonetheless this is very interesting. Pressure from China??
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Looks like the US just lost a forward staging post for potential aggression against China.

Can't decide if the Philippines are just paranoid about having the military or CIA drop a virus in their country, or if they're bowing to pressure from China as WW3 ramps up.
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And, yet: if they are hit with an EQ, or tsunami or volcanic eruptiom, who do you think they'll beg for help?
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Don't confuse Filipinos with Duturde. He's an asshole, but don't include the people.
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Duterte knows China is starting a war in the region soon. Having US military presence in the country will endanger our people.
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And, yet: if they are hit with an EQ, or tsunami or volcanic eruptiom, who do you think they'll beg for help?
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Don't confuse Filipinos with Duturde. He's an asshole, but don't include the people.
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I have worked with Filipinos. Great people. Just never ask a Filipino how old she is. They DON'T take well to that question, if if asked in a complimentary way!
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This is very bad news indeed

My wife is from the southern region Mindanao and those people down there just a hundred miles away from one of the biggest economic and agricultural hubs are Islamic State crazies.

They have in the past kidnapped westerners, ransom them and decapitated people when the ransom was not met.

This is certainly bad news.

I'm definitely for the war on drugs, I'm not for this move.
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Quick name one US base in the Philippines....

That is still occupied?
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


There aren’t any; however, there are many camps in the south where American special forces are based where they are assisting Philippine forces in fighting Muslim terrorists, insluding ISIS.
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The way things are going we are going to see Commie shoot Commie soon enough
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Quick name one US base in the Philippines....

That is still occupied?
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


Clark and Subic are both decommissioned but I believe the U.S. has a base in the southern Philippines in Mindanao?? Nonetheless this is very interesting. Pressure from China??
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Not a base, since fixed bases are not allowed under the VFA. But there are several “camps”. Everything from barracks to mess halls is on wheels so it can’t be called permanent. ISIS will have a field day once these American special forces are gone since Philippine operators are largely inept.
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Quick name one US base in the Philippines....

That is still occupied?
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


There aren’t any; however, there are many camps in the south where American special forces are based where they are assisting Philippine forces in fighting Muslim terrorists, insluding ISIS.
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Joint Special Operations Task Force - Philippines (JSOTF-P) is headquartered in Zamboanga. JSOTF-P basically operates a US base that is located inside a Philippine military base. It has it's own facilities and barracks enclosed in a fenced area and Filipino's must have permission to enter these facilities. There are also several Cooperative Security Locations (CSLs) that are owned, maintained, and occupied by US military personnel scattered throughout the region.
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...@ the internet...1...CLARK AFB & SUBIC BAY NAVAL BASE WERE GIVEN TO CHINA & HAVE BEEN RE-BUILT...2...DUTERTE SAID THE USA IS A RAT-HOLE & HE WILL NEVER RETURN...3...DUTERTE SAID "HE WANTS TO TAKE OUT THE S.O.B. TRUMP"...3...FILIPINOS CONTROL ALL YOUR PASSWORDS & CASH AT U.S. BANKS THRU "OVERSEAS TELEPHONE CUSTOMER SERVICE"...4...FILIPINOS HAVE INFILTRATED U.S. HOSPITALS & HAVE ALREADY STARTED KILLING U.S. PATIENTS...5...FILIPINOS HAVE ALWAYS SECRETLY HATED AMERICANS AND THEY KILLED THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS IN WORLD WAR II ...6...CHINA & FILIPINOS WILL KILL OFF AMERICA VIA BANKS & HOSPITALS......@ THE INTERNET... hidingburnit
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That’s why we have nuclear weapons.
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DUTERTE SAYS TRUMP IS 'GOOD FRIEND,' APOLOGIZES FOR CALLING OBAMA 'SON OF A WHORE,' STANDS BY RAPE JOKE

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DUTERTE SAYS TRUMP IS 'GOOD FRIEND,' APOLOGIZES FOR CALLING OBAMA 'SON OF A WHORE,' STANDS BY RAPE JOKE

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This is between the Deep State and the Philippines, not the USA vs Philippines.
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Quick name one US base in the Philippines....

That is still occupied?
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


Clark AFB & the US Navy Subic Bay port both decommissioned I think. I believe Clark AFB was decommissioned because of volcanic activity.
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Absolutely correct there are NO US military Bases presently in the Philippines.

Terminating a Visiting Forces Agreement means absolutely nothing right now except now China can annex the Philippines at their leisure.
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


This!!

Just another DRUNKEN rant by that raging alcy!

"WAAAAAA! I want some attention!!"
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Quick name one US base in the Philippines....

That is still occupied?
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


Clark AFB & the US Navy Subic Bay port both decommissioned I think. I believe Clark AFB was decommissioned because of volcanic activity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78462828


Absolutely correct there are NO US military Bases presently in the Philippines.

Terminating a Visiting Forces Agreement means absolutely nothing right now except now China can annex the Philippines at their leisure.
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


Lol yup.

Their leader is an impulsive shit-for-brains who thinks he has any sort of tug or sway in the region. The only reason the Philippines still exist is because they've enjoyed a generally friendly relationship with the U.S.

But now, as you stated...good luck Duterte!
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You need to be tough just to be elected into office there. The opposition parties literally kill each others candidates before the elections.
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The Philippines has officially notified the United States about its termination of the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA) between Manila and Washington.

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Shit!

THIS IS HUGE!

better stock up on manila envelopes while you still can!

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The Philippines has officially notified the United States about its termination of the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA) between Manila and Washington.

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The Philippines still has a mutual defense pact with the USA.
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Quick name one US base in the Philippines....

That is still occupied?
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


Clark AFB & the US Navy Subic Bay port both decommissioned I think. I believe Clark AFB was decommissioned because of volcanic activity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78462828


Absolutely correct there are NO US military Bases presently in the Philippines.

Terminating a Visiting Forces Agreement means absolutely nothing right now except now China can annex the Philippines at their leisure.
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


We have lots of ships visit the port there. It does mean something.

It also means less rapes against the women there. Might lower prostitution.
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ever since Trump came to power most countries want us out.

ironically Trump campaigned on bringing the troops home but even after they tell us to leave Trump keeps them there
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Duerte is generally a conservative or rightwinger, although international politics can create off bedfellows.

However, in the case of places like the Ukraine or NATO, why the US has to be the world's piggy bank for military activity is following the pattern of Britain (if not ancient Rome) when it overextended itself and became a tired, money-drained Big Nanny.

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Dump those chumps. Build a base on our own islands. Those ingrates.
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Quick name one US base in the Philippines....

That is still occupied?
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


Clark AFB & the US Navy Subic Bay port both decommissioned I think. I believe Clark AFB was decommissioned because of volcanic activity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78462828


Absolutely correct there are NO US military Bases presently in the Philippines.

Terminating a Visiting Forces Agreement means absolutely nothing right now except now China can annex the Philippines at their leisure.
 Quoting: Herbert George Wells


"means absolutely nothing right" - not true.
Read between the lines. This is a posturing maneuver. Coalitions are being built.
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And, yet: if they are hit with an EQ, or tsunami or volcanic eruptiom, who do you think they'll beg for help?
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


Don't confuse Filipinos with Duturde. He's an asshole, but don't include the people.
 Quoting: Pilgrim001


That's very true. However, Duterte remains very popular with a very high approval rating, despite his shitting on the US and kissing ChiCom ass! Therefore, as he is able to do these things without disapproval by Filipinos, they are partially to blame for supporting Duterte and his policies.





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