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Dr. Berg speaks out on Coronavirus (FINALLY!)

 
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I’m thinking most of the normal flu deaths are attributed to cytokine storm (CS)

It would be very interesting and beneficial to know which areas of the body the CS is occurring, the ratio of CS per deaths, etc

I think we are all assuming the lungs since this is a respiratory virus

It doesn’t appear they can predict who or why some people experience CS

What we do know, if you have the flu, pneumonia, take chemo and certain drugs, you don’t want to take any supplements that are immunostimulants

Immunostimulants can make CS worse
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Heard through the grapevine that B6 is key to have pumped up (which ties in with make sure you have enough Vitamin D) - If your B6 levels are adequate he was saying that your chance of a C-storm was very low to impossible.
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Can you post any links about B6 and cytokine storm other then the Cliff H video?
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LOL, sure -

"Greenberg collaborated with University of Leeds structural biologist Elton Zeqiraj to figure out the structure of the molecular complex using cryo-electron microscopy (cryo-EM). Their findings revealed a fascinating molecular mechanism that connected BRISC to an enzyme involved in metabolism called serine hydroxymethyltransferase 2 (SHMT2). SHMT2 guides reactions essential for basic body functions, such as building blocks for proteins and DNA, after being activated by a form of vitamin B6.

By probing the detailed structure of the complex, the team found that SHMT2 also induces immune cells to send out cytokines through its interaction with the BRISC complex. Mutations that disrupt the binding area of BRISC-SHMT2 interfere with this onslaught of inflammation, suggesting a new target for a lupus drug. This interaction was also regulated by vitamin B6 levels in cells, providing clues to the impact of metabolism on immune response regulation.[/i]"

Source - University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. "How to quell a cytokine storm: New ways to dampen an overactive immune system.
" ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 29 May 2019. [link to www.sciencedaily.com]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Take B6 as soon as you get sick? How much are you supposed to take?
Purebulk sells B6 powder:
[link to purebulk.com (secure)]
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This guy is not even a real doctor.
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He is a chiropractor.
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rofl5

You sure told him!
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YT docs Berg, Bergman, and Glidden...yw.
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Those aren't the correct numbers of death for this virus however good video.

But if you take D, and your receptors are blocked by the virus, which this has been said to do, then what? He says to increase D, but if the receptors are blocked then it just raises the D in your blood stream and puts you at risk for kidney stones, etc?
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YT docs Berg, Bergman, and Glidden...yw.
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Did he say you guy's keep going to Burger King for the nothing burger? Because that's what this is.
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This guy is not even a real doctor.
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Watch some videos, do your own research. He is a chiropractor.
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So go to a medical doktor who will kill you either with drugs or misdiagnose and kill you that way considering when folks die and they see that what they were being treated for was not even what was wrong with them.
How many people they killin with chemo, radiation and slicing them up today....same thing they were doing 40 yrs ago.....so much for cancer cures since they are the ones who want to TREAT you while they PRACTICE medicine!
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I wouldn't count on fasting to improve your immune system. Beside's this guy contradicts himself, blames the 1918 flu outbreak on poor nutrition and then tells you that you need to fast. So this got me wondering if fasting is good for the immune system. Apparently it turns out that you get mixed results. It can help apparently with some bacterial infections but can exacerbate a cytokine storm if you get a viral infection.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: DeplorableDoomsdayGuy®


I’m thinking most of the normal flu deaths are attributed to cytokine storm (CS)

It would be very interesting and beneficial to know which areas of the body the CS is occurring, the ratio of CS per deaths, etc

I think we are all assuming the lungs since this is a respiratory virus

It doesn’t appear they can predict who or why some people experience CS

What we do know, if you have the flu, pneumonia, take chemo and certain drugs, you don’t want to take any supplements that are immunostimulants

Immunostimulants can make CS worse
 Quoting: ~kpm~


There's also been some research that nicotine can help slow the storm down a bit. But you'll be hard-pressed to find many Dr's who would agree with that pubicly because everybody is already freaking out about vaping.
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I've been waiting for Dr. Berg's, normally informative health videos, on this coronavirus... Finally, today, it is out! Very informative...

Coronavirus: Dr. Berg's Opinion

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



Basically, prepare now (health wise), Vit D, C and he recommends LOW glucose diet with fasting, to, if anything, build the immune system... and he assumes, but is not sure, that this virus uses glucose to some degree.

Good in addition to the list here of prep supplies/info too:

[link to daviddilling.com]

1) Keep immune strong, Vit D and ZINC
2) wear mask, wash hands, etc
3) Get on healthy KETO plan
4) Keep stress down (less news, more relaxation)

 Quoting: 2012Portal


He's a fuckin' chiropractor. Nothing he says is even credible. You're trusting your health to a pseudo-scientist who went to medical school in a strip mall!
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Heard through the grapevine that B6 is key to have pumped up (which ties in with make sure you have enough Vitamin D) - If your B6 levels are adequate he was saying that your chance of a C-storm was very low to impossible.
 Quoting: 2012Portal

Can you post any links about B6 and cytokine storm other then the Cliff H video?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033


LOL, sure -

"Greenberg collaborated with University of Leeds structural biologist Elton Zeqiraj to figure out the structure of the molecular complex using cryo-electron microscopy (cryo-EM). Their findings revealed a fascinating molecular mechanism that connected BRISC to an enzyme involved in metabolism called serine hydroxymethyltransferase 2 (SHMT2). SHMT2 guides reactions essential for basic body functions, such as building blocks for proteins and DNA, after being activated by a form of vitamin B6.

By probing the detailed structure of the complex, the team found that SHMT2 also induces immune cells to send out cytokines through its interaction with the BRISC complex. Mutations that disrupt the binding area of BRISC-SHMT2 interfere with this onslaught of inflammation, suggesting a new target for a lupus drug. This interaction was also regulated by vitamin B6 levels in cells, providing clues to the impact of metabolism on immune response regulation.[/i]"

Source - University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. "How to quell a cytokine storm: New ways to dampen an overactive immune system.
" ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 29 May 2019. [link to www.sciencedaily.com]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Take B6 as soon as you get sick? How much are you supposed to take?
Purebulk sells B6 powder:
[link to purebulk.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033


Not sure about dosage. I ordered drops, for I heard they work quicker and more effective. From what I understand, you have to start doing B6 BEFORE you get sick. It's a preventive measure.
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Can you post any links about B6 and cytokine storm other then the Cliff H video?
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LOL, sure -

"Greenberg collaborated with University of Leeds structural biologist Elton Zeqiraj to figure out the structure of the molecular complex using cryo-electron microscopy (cryo-EM). Their findings revealed a fascinating molecular mechanism that connected BRISC to an enzyme involved in metabolism called serine hydroxymethyltransferase 2 (SHMT2). SHMT2 guides reactions essential for basic body functions, such as building blocks for proteins and DNA, after being activated by a form of vitamin B6.

By probing the detailed structure of the complex, the team found that SHMT2 also induces immune cells to send out cytokines through its interaction with the BRISC complex. Mutations that disrupt the binding area of BRISC-SHMT2 interfere with this onslaught of inflammation, suggesting a new target for a lupus drug. This interaction was also regulated by vitamin B6 levels in cells, providing clues to the impact of metabolism on immune response regulation.[/i]"

Source - University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. "How to quell a cytokine storm: New ways to dampen an overactive immune system.
" ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 29 May 2019. [link to www.sciencedaily.com]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Take B6 as soon as you get sick? How much are you supposed to take?
Purebulk sells B6 powder:
[link to purebulk.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033


Not sure about dosage. I ordered drops, for I heard they work quicker and more effective. From what I understand, you have to start doing B6 BEFORE you get sick. It's a preventive measure.
 Quoting: 2012Portal

B6 comes in PYRIDOXAL-5-PHOSPHATE (P5P) (P-5-P) (VITAMIN B6):

[link to purebulk.com (secure)]

and PYRIDOXINE HCL (VITAMIN B6):

[link to purebulk.com (secure)]


What is the right kind to take?
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This guy is not even a real doctor.
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Watch some videos, do your own research. He is a chiropractor.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


So go to a medical doktor who will kill you either with drugs or misdiagnose and kill you that way considering when folks die and they see that what they were being treated for was not even what was wrong with them.
How many people they killin with chemo, radiation and slicing them up today....same thing they were doing 40 yrs ago.....so much for cancer cures since they are the ones who want to TREAT you while they PRACTICE medicine!
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Exactly. Prayer is your only true line of defense, imho. Yet Maccabees does make it clear to trust our doctors... now these were likely those that accepted Yeshua Jesus as Messiah and our saviour.

Now-a-days we have doctors with who knows what sort of background and agenda. It's a very corrupt, wicked world.
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This guy is not even a real doctor.
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Watch some videos, do your own research. He is a chiropractor.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


So go to a medical doktor who will kill you either with drugs or misdiagnose and kill you that way considering when folks die and they see that what they were being treated for was not even what was wrong with them.
How many people they killin with chemo, radiation and slicing them up today....same thing they were doing 40 yrs ago.....so much for cancer cures since they are the ones who want to TREAT you while they PRACTICE medicine!
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Don’t dis Dr Berg and his apple cider vinegar videos.....
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Yes, he's a chiropractor -- which (for the doubters) is a real doctor. He has a doctorate in chiropractic medicine. Not all "real" doctors are MDs.

I love his videos, and would trust him long before I'd trust some MD who doesn't believe that we have a hand in our health, other than to buy and consume pharmaceuticals.

His science is sound. I've read a lot on these topics (fasting, immune health, keto, overall nutrition, etc.) and this guy knows his stuff. He's not saying that you will become superhuman if you do the things he suggests... he's just giving you some tips for how to have a healthy immune system in general, and thus a fighting chance against any viral invader.
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I wouldn't count on fasting to improve your immune system. Beside's this guy contradicts himself, blames the 1918 flu outbreak on poor nutrition and then tells you that you need to fast. So this got me wondering if fasting is good for the immune system. Apparently it turns out that you get mixed results. It can help apparently with some bacterial infections but can exacerbate a cytokine storm if you get a viral infection.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: DeplorableDoomsdayGuy®


Check this out, from Yale on fighting virus' and fasting (no glucose):

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]




We have to be careful though, for sure,

"“During a viral infection, eating provides glucose, which may be necessary for survival,” Medzhitov said. Conversely, fasting leads to the production of ketones — another type of fuel — which may help animals tolerate a bacterial infection, he said.

The study suggests that different diet preferences may correlate with different types of infections, the researchers noted. Although further research is needed, the findings may have implications for how clinicians feed patients suffering from acute infections in intensive care units.

The findings provide support for the old adage “Starve a fever, feed a cold”; however, the authors caution that this should not be taken literally, as the effect may depend on the specific infection. " Source - [link to news.yale.edu (secure)]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Feed a cold, starve a fever. Ah, so much has been lost with grandparents not being cared for in the home, teaching the children age old wisdom.
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I wouldn't count on fasting to improve your immune system. Beside's this guy contradicts himself, blames the 1918 flu outbreak on poor nutrition and then tells you that you need to fast. So this got me wondering if fasting is good for the immune system. Apparently it turns out that you get mixed results. It can help apparently with some bacterial infections but can exacerbate a cytokine storm if you get a viral infection.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: DeplorableDoomsdayGuy®


I’m thinking most of the normal flu deaths are attributed to cytokine storm (CS)

It would be very interesting and beneficial to know which areas of the body the CS is occurring, the ratio of CS per deaths, etc

I think we are all assuming the lungs since this is a respiratory virus

It doesn’t appear they can predict who or why some people experience CS

What we do know, if you have the flu, pneumonia, take chemo and certain drugs, you don’t want to take any supplements that are immunostimulants

Immunostimulants can make CS worse
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Heard through the grapevine that B6 is key to have pumped up (which ties in with make sure you have enough Vitamin D) - If your B6 levels are adequate he was saying that your chance of a C-storm was very low to impossible.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Ya, D3, B6, C

My D is low right now, trying to get it up above 20
 Quoting: ~kpm~


How to measure vitamin levels?
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LOL, sure -

"Greenberg collaborated with University of Leeds structural biologist Elton Zeqiraj to figure out the structure of the molecular complex using cryo-electron microscopy (cryo-EM). Their findings revealed a fascinating molecular mechanism that connected BRISC to an enzyme involved in metabolism called serine hydroxymethyltransferase 2 (SHMT2). SHMT2 guides reactions essential for basic body functions, such as building blocks for proteins and DNA, after being activated by a form of vitamin B6.

By probing the detailed structure of the complex, the team found that SHMT2 also induces immune cells to send out cytokines through its interaction with the BRISC complex. Mutations that disrupt the binding area of BRISC-SHMT2 interfere with this onslaught of inflammation, suggesting a new target for a lupus drug. This interaction was also regulated by vitamin B6 levels in cells, providing clues to the impact of metabolism on immune response regulation.[/i]"

Source - University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. "How to quell a cytokine storm: New ways to dampen an overactive immune system.
" ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 29 May 2019. [link to www.sciencedaily.com]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Take B6 as soon as you get sick? How much are you supposed to take?
Purebulk sells B6 powder:
[link to purebulk.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66662033


Not sure about dosage. I ordered drops, for I heard they work quicker and more effective. From what I understand, you have to start doing B6 BEFORE you get sick. It's a preventive measure.
 Quoting: 2012Portal

B6 comes in PYRIDOXAL-5-PHOSPHATE (P5P) (P-5-P) (VITAMIN B6):

[link to purebulk.com (secure)]

and PYRIDOXINE HCL (VITAMIN B6):

[link to purebulk.com (secure)]


What is the right kind to take?
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I think you missunderstood, b6 increase Cytokines!!!!
b6 increase histamin that is the neurotrasmitter going crazy during cytokines storm.

they actually give anti histamin for that!!!
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I've been waiting for Dr. Berg's, normally informative health videos, on this coronavirus... Finally, today, it is out! Very informative...

Coronavirus: Dr. Berg's Opinion

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



Basically, prepare now (health wise), Vit D, C and he recommends LOW glucose diet with fasting, to, if anything, build the immune system... and he assumes, but is not sure, that this virus uses glucose to some degree.

Good in addition to the list here of prep supplies/info too:

[link to daviddilling.com]

1) Keep immune strong, Vit D and ZINC
2) wear mask, wash hands, etc
3) Get on healthy KETO plan
4) Keep stress down (less news, more relaxation)

 Quoting: 2012Portal


Muh Doctor berg

First of all, this person isn’t a real doctor, he’s a chiropractor. 2nd of all he looks like death and muh ketosis is a retarded fad. It is NOT sustainable.
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