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BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.

 
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Rand Paul was opposed to the killing of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani and opposed to building the southern border wall.
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The Senate approved a bipartisan measure Thursday aimed at limiting President Donald Trump’s authority to launch military operations against Iran, with eight Republicans joining Democrats in a post-impeachment bid to constrain the White House.

The rebuke was the Senate’s first major vote since acquitting Trump on impeachment charges last week. Trump is expected to veto the war powers resolution if it reaches his desk, warning that if his “hands were tied, Iran would have a field day.’”

The measure, authored by Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., says Trump must win approval from Congress before engaging in further military action against Iran. Kaine and other supporters said the resolution, which passed 55-45, was not about Trump or even the presidency, but instead was an important reassertion of congressional power to declare war.

While Trump and other presidents “must always have the ability to defend the United States from imminent attack, the executive power to initiate war stops there,″ Kaine said. “An offensive war requires a congressional debate and vote.″

The Senate vote continues a pattern in which Republican senators have shown a willingness to challenge Trump on foreign policy, a sharp departure from their strong support during impeachment and on domestic matters. Congress moved to impose restrictions on U.S. involvement with the Saudi-led war in Yemen last year after U.S.-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in a gruesome murder at Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Turkey.

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Only time a POTUS should be able to act unilaterally is if the homeland is under attack or if American troops or citizens abroad are in imminent danger and there is no time to wait for Congress. The rest of this world policing shit has to end.
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Because he attacked Iran. HHHuuuurrrrr deeeee ddduuurrrrrr

This should apply to ALL military action for EVERY US President, which it does.
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He should veto it until they change it to ALL countries not just Iran...

If he gets pushback ask why?

Then he will have tricked them into fulfilling another promise - to get us out of ALL endless wars, or at least to make them accountable for it
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Holy shiz, yes lol.
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Congress is obliged in the constitution to have sole discretion to declare war, it then unconstitutionally cedes that power to the office of President, it then tries to partially limit that unconstitutional act because of what a nightmare it has proven to be (duh!), and then it is vetoed by the officeholder they unconstitutionally gave it to.

WHAT A F'N MESS!

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Why just Iran?
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Amazing, isn't it?
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Not really that amazing. Why just Iran? Iran is one of the recipients of the arms trafficking
funded, in part, by the US Foreign Aid laundering through the Ukraine.
DOOM is what you make of it.
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Don’t see why Trump wouldn’t veto this. Stupid to handicap your leader while he is trying to negotiate against an adversary who keeps testing us. If they don’t fear Trump then his hand is bust. Always leave it to the Gaylord’s in Congress to not understand negotiations... might explain why every government contract is 10x the true cost
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It is only Iran because R's and D's still want to continue run all these little global wars on small nation states that are easy to bully to keep the dollar afloat - but they realize Iran is no joke and are afraid that President Trump, the greatest President in United States history is erratic and easy to manipulate and will eventually cross a line with Iran that can't be uncrossed thereby revealing the USA as the man behind the green curtain.

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He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
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no president has ever been able to declare a war. that is congress' job.

these military strikes without congressional approval have just become the norm in the last couple decades, and should be reigned in, but the democrats aren't doing this for the right reason.

they are just doing this to spite trump. had it been obama or hillary they would be cheering it on and encouraging more strikes.
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Yep, i am amazed at the hypocrisy of it all tbh.
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He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
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They want to chisel his nuts off? piece by piece? (that's the only reason I can believe) Why do the the Democrats want to protect IRAN who HATES America?
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A nice blow to the Zionist traitor warmongering military industrial complex. To all you bitching, fuck you and your endless wars. Chickenhawk cowards.
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Because he attacked Iran. HHHuuuurrrrr deeeee ddduuurrrrrr

This should apply to ALL military action for EVERY US President, which it does.
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Except it doesn’t. And it shouldn’t.
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Ap is fake news.
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The Senate approved a bipartisan measure Thursday aimed at limiting President Donald Trump’s authority to launch military operations against Iran, with eight Republicans joining Democrats in a post-impeachment bid to constrain the White House.

The rebuke was the Senate’s first major vote since acquitting Trump on impeachment charges last week. Trump is expected to veto the war powers resolution if it reaches his desk, warning that if his “hands were tied, Iran would have a field day.’”

The measure, authored by Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., says Trump must win approval from Congress before engaging in further military action against Iran. Kaine and other supporters said the resolution, which passed 55-45, was not about Trump or even the presidency, but instead was an important reassertion of congressional power to declare war.

While Trump and other presidents “must always have the ability to defend the United States from imminent attack, the executive power to initiate war stops there,″ Kaine said. “An offensive war requires a congressional debate and vote.″

The Senate vote continues a pattern in which Republican senators have shown a willingness to challenge Trump on foreign policy, a sharp departure from their strong support during impeachment and on domestic matters. Congress moved to impose restrictions on U.S. involvement with the Saudi-led war in Yemen last year after U.S.-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in a gruesome murder at Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Turkey.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78465940

THE EMERGENCY WAR POWERS ACT IS STILL IN FULL EFFECT FROM 1861 AND THE EMERGENCY BANKING ACT FROM 1933 THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT NEED THE CONGRESS APPROVAL FOR ANYTHING.
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Why just Iran?
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Got to keep them happy or they will talk about the massive bribes it took to get the Iran deal.. They have threaten releasing in info. But then John Kerry flow over and kissed butt in secret meetings. While holding no office and was photographed paparazzi style (Clear Logan act violations..)
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Trump needs to go back to what he was doing when he first came in.
he should bring Steve Bannon back too.
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and then he vetoed it

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Remember, resolutions are NOT binding on a president. They simply reflect the sentiments of the majority of the House, the Senate, or both. The president can ignore them. AND HE SHOULD.
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He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
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He hasn't lost anything he never had. And he isn't losing this either, it will be vetoed.
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He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5650064


no president has ever been able to declare a war. that is congress' job.

these military strikes without congressional approval have just become the norm in the last couple decades, and should be reigned in, but the democrats aren't doing this for the right reason.

they are just doing this to spite trump. had it been obama or hillary they would be cheering it on and encouraging more strikes.
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Then why do they need to pass a law then?
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Because they're fucking hypocrites! Why wasn't it made a law during Obombos terms?
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He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
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He hasn't lost anything he never had. And he isn't losing this either, it will be vetoed.
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well, after he gets The Mandate from the American People, you just wait and watch.
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He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5650064


no president has ever been able to declare a war. that is congress' job.

these military strikes without congressional approval have just become the norm in the last couple decades, and should be reigned in, but the democrats aren't doing this for the right reason.

they are just doing this to spite trump. had it been obama or hillary they would be cheering it on and encouraging more strikes.
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The Dems and traitor R's are playing games with our soldiers safety and lives. This isn't the early 18 or 1900's anymore where we had our armies here fighting Indians in America, not stationed in Europe and the ME. We can't have soldiers stationed around the world taking fire and unable to fire a shot in defense because the D's and the R's need to get together in Congress first and then argue for several days on whether we should "declare war".
Every hostile nation and then some will be taking pot shots against us knowing the Generals are waiting on Nancy pants or others to give the President the "ok" to direct the General.
Bull fucking shit.

Besides, the President hasn't taken their "power" away. They can still "declare war". The President hasn't declared war on ANYONE. Not ANYONE. In fact, he would love to bring all our troops home. It's the damn dems and rinos who want our troops all over the world taking fire.

If Congress manages to get 2/3rds to override the veto, the President ought to PULL EVERY DAMN SOLDIER OUT OF EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IMMEDIATELY. Fuck the Generals and the Dems. The only one who will be happy with that decision is Rand Paul. Consequences for your votes MF's.
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Re: BREAKING: Senate approves bipartisan measure limiting President Trump's authority to launch military operations against Iran.
The Senate approved a bipartisan measure Thursday aimed at limiting President Donald Trump’s authority to launch military operations against Iran, with eight Republicans joining Democrats in a post-impeachment bid to constrain the White House.

The rebuke was the Senate’s first major vote since acquitting Trump on impeachment charges last week. Trump is expected to veto the war powers resolution if it reaches his desk, warning that if his “hands were tied, Iran would have a field day.’”

The measure, authored by Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., says Trump must win approval from Congress before engaging in further military action against Iran. Kaine and other supporters said the resolution, which passed 55-45, was not about Trump or even the presidency, but instead was an important reassertion of congressional power to declare war.

While Trump and other presidents “must always have the ability to defend the United States from imminent attack, the executive power to initiate war stops there,″ Kaine said. “An offensive war requires a congressional debate and vote.″

The Senate vote continues a pattern in which Republican senators have shown a willingness to challenge Trump on foreign policy, a sharp departure from their strong support during impeachment and on domestic matters. Congress moved to impose restrictions on U.S. involvement with the Saudi-led war in Yemen last year after U.S.-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in a gruesome murder at Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Turkey.

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Only time a POTUS should be able to act unilaterally is if the homeland is under attack or if American troops or citizens abroad are in imminent danger and there is no time to wait for Congress. The rest of this world policing shit has to end.
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We can bring them all home, right? That will make it easy for the enemy to build armies around the world and plot against us.

We will then be defending ourselves against the enemy on our own soil. And by then the Dems will have made us defenseless or only left us with two bullets.
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Now i see Iran are threatening the USA and Israel again the day after this ruling......
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So when Iran starts launching nuclear ICBM's at the US and the the US has only minutes to react Trumps hands are now tied to fight back.
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The Senate approved a bipartisan measure Thursday aimed at limiting President Donald Trump’s authority to launch military operations against Iran, with eight Republicans joining Democrats in a post-impeachment bid to constrain the White House.

The rebuke was the Senate’s first major vote since acquitting Trump on impeachment charges last week. Trump is expected to veto the war powers resolution if it reaches his desk, warning that if his “hands were tied, Iran would have a field day.’”

The measure, authored by Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., says Trump must win approval from Congress before engaging in further military action against Iran. Kaine and other supporters said the resolution, which passed 55-45, was not about Trump or even the presidency, but instead was an important reassertion of congressional power to declare war.

While Trump and other presidents “must always have the ability to defend the United States from imminent attack, the executive power to initiate war stops there,″ Kaine said. “An offensive war requires a congressional debate and vote.″

The Senate vote continues a pattern in which Republican senators have shown a willingness to challenge Trump on foreign policy, a sharp departure from their strong support during impeachment and on domestic matters. Congress moved to impose restrictions on U.S. involvement with the Saudi-led war in Yemen last year after U.S.-based journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed in a gruesome murder at Saudi Arabia’s consulate in Turkey.

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he has the god damn nuke codes in his bed room FUCK CONGRESS!
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lol, you are crazier than him if you think he can control nukes
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But not when Barry was in power...how non partisan of them....
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So when Iran starts launching nuclear ICBM's at the US and the the US has only minutes to react Trumps hands are now tied to fight back.
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tgat's the fucking script...they need a single fake nuke to land ob Israel launched by IDF and then they have the excuse to nuke half middle east


the problem is when the real nukes reach israrl, US and UK in response.

these people are fucking crazy
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(If only we had a law like this between 2008-2015!)
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He becomes the first President in history to lose the right to declare War on a Nation (Specific Iran)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5650064


no president has ever been able to declare a war. that is congress' job.

these military strikes without congressional approval have just become the norm in the last couple decades, and should be reigned in, but the democrats aren't doing this for the right reason.

they are just doing this to spite trump. had it been obama or hillary they would be cheering it on and encouraging more strikes.
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Then why do they need to pass a law then?
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Because they're fucking hypocrites! Why wasn't it made a law during Obombos terms?
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I remember Barry not going to congress to take out MoMo Khaddaffi and no one said squat.





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