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Preppers are you prepared for 3 years?

 
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3 years is too long for isolation-based survival plans. It will not work for most and most of the few that do survive in isolation that long will be miserable and not very well off.

For survival that long, a community-based survival strategy is best. Those that have a small to medium sized community of like-minded individuals willing to work together for the common good will be most likely to survive somewhat comfortably, safely, and healthy.
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Yes, anything that long you will have to deal with the occasional truck full of armed bad guys coming around to take your supplies. Unless you are extremely isolated, only a community based survival and defense network will get you through such a long period.
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They have thought of this! They will be no internet, VHF, CB radio. And sadly that will include GLP! (this could be extended if trinity allows IP access for when the DNS goes down)...
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I can fast for 30 days at a time.

I also have a Bic lighter and a lifestraw. I would only need to find shelter and a few meals every few months, which I could easily forage in the woods.

People don't need much food to survive. Learn to be able to survive on foot in the middle of nowhere for as long as possible. I would make a good bug out bag though.
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There are a lot of ways to get clean water. If you have a well, and no hand or solar pump, this will work:

[link to preparednessadvice.com (secure)]

Obviously, rainwater collection is good, but you need to filter it, so you can make a sand filter or simply through material and boil it. If they stop spraying aerosols, maybe it will be even more of a good thing to collect rainwater?

In just a couple generations, people have lost how to live without electricity or government provision. There's a thread on here called Practical Prepping....If you are concerned, look that up. Tons of good info.
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Good post thanks :)
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Hey thanks GLP'ers!
I created this thread to make people aware but already there is lots of useful info!!

keep it coming :)
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I just did our inventory and we have meds for 6 months and 360 meals' worth of dry- goods-food and drinking water, plus whatever's in the fridge and every-day cupboards (about 2 weeks' worth). That's about 2.5 months' worth of food for 2 people. And we're out on our property with a well, a robust garden, and chickens and pond stocked with fish. But you know our kids and their spouses will show up at some point. I can't afford to prep for an extra 7 people! Not to mention the fact that while I love my children, they can be a giant pain in the ass to live with!
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I just did our inventory and we have meds for 6 months and 360 meals' worth of dry- goods-food and drinking water, plus whatever's in the fridge and every-day cupboards (about 2 weeks' worth). That's about 2.5 months' worth of food for 2 people. And we're out on our property with a well, a robust garden, and chickens and pond stocked with fish. But you know our kids and their spouses will show up at some point. I can't afford to prep for an extra 7 people! Not to mention the fact that while I love my children, they can be a giant pain in the ass to live with!
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Mom???!!!eekalert
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Sorry, darling. Just telling the truth ;)
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You don't have to prep for 3 years, you only need to prep for about 6 months. By then 90 percent of the population will have starved to death and if you manage to survive that long you have the resources to yourself and anyone else who managed to survive. If you are close to a body of water, know the local edible plants and have shelter you can make it. Start reading up on survival now. SAP manual is good, also Wildwood Wisdom, and make sure you buy up lots of seeds and have a fishing rod, bow and arrow or crossbow, or a slingshot for weapons for hunting.
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I have 8 years worth of cans rice and beans for 11 people i live in idaho with Mormon neighbors near potato farm no international air ports we live in mt zion praise Yahweh
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Ok we are coming to your house :)
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Is it true mormons stock food ?
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Yes they do idaho is very safe state to live in
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Might be restocking canned fruit salad, peaches, pineapple, and sweet potatoes depending on how bad it gets...

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Beware of acidic stuff in cans, they have the worst shelf life. Especially bad are tinned tomatoes. Those things will eat the BPA off the can.

My pro-tip for prepping is peanut butter. That stuff will never go bad, even once opened. The macros of it are great (fat, protein) and it doesn't require any cooking or prep. Probably the best single survival food out there.
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Agreed. FYI, Trader Joe's organic is probably one of the best peanut butters you can buy because it is organic - no pesticide residue but just as important - it is grown in AZ where there is little moisture so the peanuts are the least likely of all the various places where they can be grown to be contaminated with aflatoxins. Just wish they were in glass jars, but they only sell them in plastic.
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Yeah, used to be peanut butter would come in glass jars, even the cheap stuff. Now even the organic stuff comes in plastic, although in a SHTF scenario plastic containers are the least of your worries.

Also you can bypass all that by just making your own peanut butter. I buy uncooked peanuts from the Indian store, fry em up a little and then blend them up with salt. Very easy to make and you know exactly what's in it. Stick it in a sterilized jar and there you go. The salt and low water is what keeps peanut butter good. I've seen a dude eat multiple cans of WW2 peanut butter and it's never bad. Miracle food.
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There are a lot of ways to get clean water. If you have a well, and no hand or solar pump, this will work:

[link to preparednessadvice.com (secure)]

Obviously, rainwater collection is good, but you need to filter it, so you can make a sand filter or simply through material and boil it. If they stop spraying aerosols, maybe it will be even more of a good thing to collect rainwater?

In just a couple generations, people have lost how to live without electricity or government provision. There's a thread on here called Practical Prepping....If you are concerned, look that up. Tons of good info.
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Thanks!
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You don't have to prep for 3 years, you only need to prep for about 6 months. By then 90 percent of the population will have starved to death and if you manage to survive that long you have the resources to yourself and anyone else who managed to survive. If you are close to a body of water, know the local edible plants and have shelter you can make it. Start reading up on survival now. SAP manual is good, also Wildwood Wisdom, and make sure you buy up lots of seeds and have a fishing rod, bow and arrow or crossbow, or a slingshot for weapons for hunting.
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Not 3 years, but a year easily.
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You know, I've been a prepper for a really long time. And yet, I am never anywhere near the level of preps that would make me feel "comfortable". I am certainly not comfortable with People far more intelligent than millennialsang virus that you can survive and then it comes back to give you a heart attack in a a couple of weeks.

This is nuts.

And we do not have accurate data, which raises anxiety, which lowers the immune system, etc.

So, the best advice I have is make sure you have at least a month's worth of food and water, get the needed meds, and do what you can actually do and leave the rest to the Creator.

For the first time since I've been on GLP, we are seeing actual doom...Yet we don't know how lethal or far reaching this may be. Guaranteed to have serious economic effects though. So do what you can and be good to each other. Maybe from a distance! lol.
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I could do about 2 years, maybe 3 depending if the crops come in. You never know when your gonna be hit with blight and insects that totally destroy your crops in days. That's not including fickle weather that looks great and then you plant all your seeds, they begin to sprout, and a cold snap sets in to kill all your seedlings...

Plenty of meat for a year...

Blanched carrots and string beans that will last a few months. Cases of quart mason jar canned beans with bacon...Yum!!!

Plenty of pancake mix large sealed bags that should last at least 6 months or more...

A variety of canned goods that will last at least 6 months...

Might be restocking canned fruit salad, peaches, pineapple, and sweet potatoes depending on how bad it gets...

Lots of Pasta and a big burlap bag of white rice...

Have sugar to last at least 5 years or more all stored in Mason Jars...

Also will be stocking up on cooking spray...

Should be ok. Now I just need to get some tobacco seeds otherwise, I'll just go cold turkey on the cigs...
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Growing tobacco is very hard best you get the seeds asap and try to grow them first..
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Why anyone in their right mind would even consider posting their preps on a forum where ones IP address and be traced right to their front door, is mind blowing to me.. WTF are all of even thinking..
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Yup. We keep our meat on the hoof.
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Why anyone in their right mind would even consider posting their preps on a forum where ones IP address and be traced right to their front door, is mind blowing to me.. WTF are all of even thinking..
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I could do about 2 years, maybe 3 depending if the crops come in. You never know when your gonna be hit with blight and insects that totally destroy your crops in days. That's not including fickle weather that looks great and then you plant all your seeds, they begin to sprout, and a cold snap sets in to kill all your seedlings...

Plenty of meat for a year...

Blanched carrots and string beans that will last a few months. Cases of quart mason jar canned beans with bacon...Yum!!!

Plenty of pancake mix large sealed bags that should last at least 6 months or more...

A variety of canned goods that will last at least 6 months...

Might be restocking canned fruit salad, peaches, pineapple, and sweet potatoes depending on how bad it gets...

Lots of Pasta and a big burlap bag of white rice...

Have sugar to last at least 5 years or more all stored in Mason Jars...

Also will be stocking up on cooking spray...

Should be ok. Now I just need to get some tobacco seeds otherwise, I'll just go cold turkey on the cigs...
 Quoting: DuckNCover


I've been reading quite a bit about hydroponic gardening. Articles indicate the crops grow faster and require less space. You have the issue of fertilizer but if you keep fish, that could be an answer to use their poop as a fertilizer.

[link to agrowingpassion.com (secure)]
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Another solution:

Raise New Zealand Whites (rabbits) with their cages above worm beds. New Zealand Whites are good for meat and fur. The worm beds can provide worms for fishing, livestock feed supplement, etc. The worm beds also provide good soil for plants for human and livestock consumption.
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You don't have to prep for 3 years, you only need to prep for about 6 months. By then 90 percent of the population will have starved to death and if you manage to survive that long you have the resources to yourself and anyone else who managed to survive. If you are close to a body of water, know the local edible plants and have shelter you can make it. Start reading up on survival now. SAP manual is good, also Wildwood Wisdom, and make sure you buy up lots of seeds and have a fishing rod, bow and arrow or crossbow, or a slingshot for weapons for hunting.
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Survival mode, you have to throw all societal rules out if you want to make it.
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This is what kills me about preppers, they dont realize they will be the targets for the mobs....and a rifle isnt any match against a volley of flaming arrows.
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LOL better to be a prepper than a empty shit headed dumbf%ck little dishrag b#tch like you ya P@SSY Azz punk B#tch
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Yep,

Revelation 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
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I can fast for 30 days at a time.

I also have a Bic lighter and a lifestraw. I would only need to find shelter and a few meals every few months, which I could easily forage in the woods.

People don't need much food to survive. Learn to be able to survive on foot in the middle of nowhere for as long as possible. I would make a good bug out bag though.
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Start intermittent fasting now. Learn to live on less food. Your preps will go further.
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Three days should be enough.

I might need to go out for a pack of American spirits.

Those dogs'll hunt!
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Yep,

Revelation 12:13 And when the dragon satan saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman satan were given two wings of a great eagle USA, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
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according to US exec 3551-13 this will last until 2022!
"NARR/REF A IS THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES’ NATIONAL HEALTH SECURITY STRATEGY 2019-2022"
Thread: Martial Law DOOM: US Northern Command initiating executive order 3551-13 (Update pg 9) >> Full transcript of message to US Marines (Page 9)

The German Bundestag paper also mentions 3 years! (find it early on in the main CV thread)

Most people think they are prepped because the have 2 weeks or 2 months of food!

rethink your strategy here!

Only the fandago rangers will survive this!
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If you let people know what you have it will be gone first. Trust that. Talking about it is just really stupid.
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Yep,

Revelation 12:13 And when the dragon satan saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman Israel which brought forth the man child Christ.

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman satan were given two wings of a great eagle USA, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
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There is a reason the word “tard” follows “doom”.

Why are there so many people with worthless lives that cross their fingers for doom when there is none? How can your life be that bad?

Nobody needs to ever prep more than two weeks food.
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I can fast for 30 days at a time.

I also have a Bic lighter and a lifestraw. I would only need to find shelter and a few meals every few months, which I could easily forage in the woods.

People don't need much food to survive. Learn to be able to survive on foot in the middle of nowhere for as long as possible. I would make a good bug out bag though.
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Start intermittent fasting now. Learn to live on less food. Your preps will go further.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76984449


Yup. When you reach your ideal bodyweight, you actually stop losing weight. It's possible to survive on a lot less than people think.

I discovered this because I went on a diet. I lost weight for about 5 months til I was pretty lean, and at that point my weight stabilized even though I was still on restricted calories. I just assumed a diet that was low in calories enough to lose weight on would eventually kill you, but it doesn't happen. We're just a lot more efficient at losing fat when we're overweight is all.
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There is a reason the word “tard” follows “doom”.

Why are there so many people with worthless lives that cross their fingers for doom when there is none? How can your life be that bad?

Nobody needs to ever prep more than two weeks food.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77444540


Tell that to the dudes that suffered through the great depression. Those guys could've benefitted from hoarding for sure. Only normalcy bias assumes that will never happen again.

But you're totally right about the ones hoping for doom. Those guys really exist and you gotta wonder about them.
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according to US exec 3551-13 this will last until 2022!
"NARR/REF A IS THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES’ NATIONAL HEALTH SECURITY STRATEGY 2019-2022"
Thread: Martial Law DOOM: US Northern Command initiating executive order 3551-13 (Update pg 9) >> Full transcript of message to US Marines (Page 9)

The German Bundestag paper also mentions 3 years! (find it early on in the main CV thread)

Most people think they are prepped because the have 2 weeks or 2 months of food!

rethink your strategy here!

Only the fandago rangers will survive this!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78165255


probably, have enough food, have water supply, can use wood for heat, have enough ammunition, unless I have to ward off an army. Even then, if so, there are worse ways to die than Butch Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid did.
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Here is a great example of what one can achieve when necessity arises. Back in February 2015, A cold front with snow was moving in. While the wife and daughter slept, I stayed up all night working through the snow and built the structure in the image linked below. The framework was constructed with persimmon trees, the uprights placed into 3 ft holes. No nails were used in the frame. It was lashed together using jute twine. Old tin roofing panels were placed around it in the main section 3 levels high over the top of heavy, waterproof canvas. The section on the right was added one day later and it open on top where we cooked over wood as well as storage for wood, tools, etc. The green tarp was used as the door. Water was hauled in from a spring fed creek about 300 yards away, filtering was unnecessary. The land, being in a valley within the Oauchita Mountains not far from a 1600 ft mountain, provided an abundance of deer, hogs and turkey. Note, also, there is an antenna placed on the top center that provided reception to provide radio, the radio being a hand-cranked type or using solar cells for other purposes. Further, an outdoor toilet can be constructed using a potty chair with a 5 gallon bucket under it and something to cover the poop after use, such as sawdust, clay, dirt, etc. This is something we had to do while living here. This is what my family and I had done for 2 years, living like this. No electricity, no water, no cell phone service unless hiked the 2 mile path to the top of the mountains. There were difficulties, at times, but we overcame everything that came at us. If we can do this for 2 years, then three wouldn't be a problem. We have the experience to do it even if it is necessary to fall back to the stone age and knap my own arrowheads for hunting (which I did at that time), make cordage, chop wood, prepare food. And, there may be times when you don't have what you need and no way to get it. No problem, necessity is the mother of invention. A solution can be developed for any problem thrown our way.

Here is the structure I build in less than 24 hours total building time (minus little modifications added when the need arose).
[link to ibb.co (secure)]

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