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CSnow
User ID: 74827762 United States 02/16/2020 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" This is not an extinction level event as you are making it out to be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78450791 Much of the Western World or industrialized world has been in a relative bubble for the past several decades. There was 9-11, however, and acts of terrorism in various cities. But nothing of the magnitude of WWI or WWII. Or even a drawn-out violent confrontation like Korea in the 1950s or Vietnam in the 1960s. That bubble looks like it's going to burst. Hopefully it will be no more than financially instead of both financially and biologically. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78450791 Australia 02/16/2020 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" One thing I find painfully obvious is: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78301498 TPTB are spreading this on purpose. Everything else about the virus is still unclear, but this is a certainty: They are spreading this from one end of the globe to the other and there's not a damn thing we cando about it! Who did you vote for? Did you vote for the radical lowering of CO2 emissions so our planet does not suffer catastrophic climate induced Armageddon? If you did not, then you are part of the problem that caused the elite rulers to unleash the pandemic plague to wipe out tens of millions. Think about that, while wearing your MAGA hat and burning more fossil fuels, while thinking we're bullet proof and the planet will abide our savage destruction. Remember the amazon? The lungs on the planet? Remember how it was ablaze a while ago? While their leader was shrugging it off and taking umbrage at Macron for daring to mention that Brazil cannot take care of the lungs of the earth so an international intervention will be necessarily? But the morally bankrupted bolsonaro was apoplectic with rage as the prospect that the Brazilians, bastions of economic management, could not take care of their own house. Well. Someone, somewhere, saw that we had no hope of fixing things. So they took matters into their own hands and we now have the coronavirus that will visit all of us. [Youtube] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [Youtube] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76864035 United States 02/16/2020 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Well the cats out of the bag as such. Quoting: MostHolyFace No denying it now! "The novel corona virus(2019nCoV)is a recently emerged human pathogen that has spread widely since January 2020.Initially, the basic reproductive number, R0,was estimated to be 2.2 to 2.7. Here we provide an estimate of this quantity. We collected extensive individual case reports and estimated key epidemiology parameters,including the incubation period.Integrating these estimates and hig hresolution real time human travel and infection data with mathematical models, we estimated that the number of infected individuals during early epidemic double every 2.4 days, and the R0 value is likely to be between 4.7 and 6.6. We further show that quarantine and contact tracing of symptomatic individuals alone may not be effective and early, strong control measures are needed to stop transmission of the virus" They are saying what is being done in China is needed to control this. We Know though that it is Totalitarianism, and no governmnet in the West Can, due to revolution loosing power, and financial collapse and Panic, they can only just try and manage "Normalcy" for a s long as possible and be Re-Active not very Pro-active. Straight from the horses mouth: [link to arxiv.org (secure)] Nothing More to say realy. See who where involved in this below:+ YOUR and my world will change in ways you can only read about in history books, within the next 36 months. That is for those of us that survive. GodBless. + "Theoretical Biology and Biophysics, Theoretical Division,Los Alamos National Laboratory,NM87544,USA. CNLS Center for Nonlinear Studies, Los Alamos National Laboratory, Information Sciences Group, Computer, Computational and Statistical Sciences Division,Los Alamos National Laboratory,Los Alamos,New Mexico. Earth Systems Observations Group Earth and Environmental Sciences Division, Los Alamos National Laboratory. They cant even contain it nor control the spread and they preach us that by taxing us they can control climate change by changing the temperature?.... ha! |
MostHolyFace
(OP) User ID: 76180094 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" OP can you tell me the date that was published? I couldn’t find it on the document. Thanks Quoting: telling it straight Hey I will have dig for you. The references include work that was published, not by this group, but used in the creation the the Mathematical Model used to create this, after February the 3rd of 2019. GodBless Pray Hope & Dont Worry [link to www.sudariumchristi.com (secure)] |
Tangy
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Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 02/16/2020 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" feb 9, 2020 OP can you tell me the date that was published? I couldn’t find it on the document. Thanks Quoting: telling it straight Hey I will have dig for you. The references include work that was published, not by this group, but used in the creation the the Mathematical Model used to create this, after February the 3rd of 2019. GodBless |
MostHolyFace
(OP) User ID: 76180094 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78481579 United States 02/16/2020 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" "YOUR and my world will change in ways you can only read about in history books, within the next 36 months." Quoting: Busterhymen 36 months? You're pretty optimistic. I would put it more like 36 weeks! It will be worse in the USA than it has been in China. China is Communist and locks everything down. In the US, people will riot if the government tried to lock us down. Muh Freedumbs! It is every man for himself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50706435 Switzerland 02/16/2020 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Official Los Alamos National Laboratory [link to www.lanl.gov (secure)] I found no link to the research study? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77986468 United States 02/16/2020 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" It can be the most infectious disease of all time, if the mortality rate is low, it doesn't really matter. Right now we don't really know what the mortality rate is. It could be really bad, but I'm not panicking yet. If it is highly infection and causes sterility, as some have suggested, it could be the most beneficial thing to happen to the world in the last century. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77986468 United States 02/16/2020 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" "YOUR and my world will change in ways you can only read about in history books, within the next 36 months." Quoting: Busterhymen 36 months? You're pretty optimistic. I would put it more like 36 weeks! It will be worse in the USA than it has been in China. China is Communist and locks everything down. In the US, people will riot if the government tried to lock us down. Muh Freedumbs! It is every man for himself. It sounds like you don't understand the US, or China very well. |
MostHolyFace
(OP) User ID: 76180094 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Official Los Alamos National Laboratory Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50706435 [link to www.lanl.gov (secure)] I found no link to the research study? Tangy has found it referenced, for the Study posted in Cornell University, where the original Link I provided came from, for the Paper. Its real: [link to arxiv.org (secure)] GodBless Last Edited by MostHolyFace on 02/16/2020 10:24 AM Pray Hope & Dont Worry [link to www.sudariumchristi.com (secure)] |
Windsage
User ID: 77763753 United States 02/16/2020 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" ROR 4.7-6.6? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56563724 Is this real? If so that's very bad news. Not survivable for a large percent of population. Need to cut off all air travel to/from China. Like today. I believe the report to be very well done, yes. Now, just what is the Los Alamos National Laboratory, and where is the link that proves it comes from their lab, the study, I mean. Thanks. I had a similar reaction when there was no letterhead or other identifying logo, but was quickly disabused of my skepticism when I saw the level of technical intelligence in the writing. I've got a high enough IQ to recognize brilliant intellect when I see it. Where the paper comes from is not as significant to me as the undeniable fact that it was written, not by fakers, but by brilliant scientific minds. Not the kind of people that are motivated by a desire to lead others astray..... |
kpow
User ID: 78348454 United States 02/16/2020 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" This explains the reduction in cases in the provinces outside of Wuhan. No more traveling Wuhanians. Thus it will reduce and then grow as the other provinces grow crops of their own cases. |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 02/16/2020 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Official Los Alamos National Laboratory Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50706435 [link to www.lanl.gov (secure)] I found no link to the research study? Tangy has found it refernced in Cornell University. Its real: [link to arxiv.org (secure)] GodBless Most sobering thread on GLP concerning covid 19 yet. For the first time, I feel rather sick to my stomach. |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 02/16/2020 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" ROR 4.7-6.6? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56563724 Is this real? If so that's very bad news. Not survivable for a large percent of population. Need to cut off all air travel to/from China. Like today. I believe the report to be very well done, yes. Now, just what is the Los Alamos National Laboratory, and where is the link that proves it comes from their lab, the study, I mean. Thanks. I had a similar reaction when there was no letterhead or other identifying logo, but was quickly disabused of my skepticism when I saw the level of technical intelligence in the writing. I've got a high enough IQ to recognize brilliant intellect when I see it. Where the paper comes from is not as significant to me as the undeniable fact that it was written, not by fakers, but by brilliant scientific minds. Not the kind of people that are motivated by a desire to lead others astray..... I had to hunt for it, but I found it, and had OP link in main post. [link to arxiv.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76812326 United States 02/16/2020 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" ROR 4.7-6.6? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56563724 Is this real? If so that's very bad news. Not survivable for a large percent of population. Need to cut off all air travel to/from China. Like today. I believe the report to be very well done, yes. Now, just what is the Los Alamos National Laboratory, and where is the link that proves it comes from their lab, the study, I mean. Thanks. Yes the world will change. However it is survivable. Measles has an R0 of 16 and we survived it. Not saying it is going to be easy. But survivable. |
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Tangy
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78355073 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" That is probably our only hope. Still not convinced that this is any more than the common flu for whites, but we shall see From I can see it is all about those ACE-2 receptors. It may be that the Virus is finding it difficult to move from an infection stage to a pnuemonic and more deadly phase in different genetic hosts. It may be that there are many infected, who do not even know it and are suffering from what they think is just a cold or sore throat and it will never be anything more than this. Regardless of the how's and why's, many people are suprised by the ability of some races to brush off the Virus's infection and the amount of people who test positive, but who do not becvome ill at all. There is clear evidence in Europe now, that despite the amounts of infections, the Virus is having a more difficlut time to attain traction, or converting those infections into deaths. |
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MostHolyFace
(OP) User ID: 76180094 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Official Los Alamos National Laboratory Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50706435 [link to www.lanl.gov (secure)] I found no link to the research study? Tangy has found it refernced in Cornell University. Its real: [link to arxiv.org (secure)] GodBless Most sobering thread on GLP concerning covid 19 yet. For the first time, I feel rather sick to my stomach. I had a panicked feeling the other day a bit. I love history. Have had a lot of tradegies in my own life and so have learnt not to be naive to realise that Life can change in a blink of an Eye. A thought came to me. Totally Selfish. The issue is if anyone needs Ventilation in ICU for this, when its epidemic properly in the West, the first with it will have the best odds of survival. The Chance it appears of those who need ICU vetilation of survival is about 60 odd percent. Without that probably around 80 - 90% will die if there is no Ventilation ICU beds for them, if they get Pnuemonia. Maybe get on a Plane, hang around in singapore airport, fly to hong kong, have zero hand washing, shake hands and hug every chinese person I meet. Hotel for 2 nights. Totally disinfect body scrub, mask up, return to west, so as not to spread, Self Isolate, wait till get sick, present by foot to nearest Hospital, do not enter say where been. Much Higher percentage of surviving! To selfish and dangerous to do. Statistically very wise. If a Narcissist would do it. GodBless. Pray Hope & Dont Worry [link to www.sudariumchristi.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78484426 Germany 02/16/2020 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" That is probably our only hope. Still not convinced that this is any more than the common flu for whites, but we shall see From I can see it is all about those ACE-2 receptors. It may be that the Virus is finding it difficult to move from an infection stage to a pnuemonic and more deadly phase in different genetic hosts. It may be that there are many infected, who do not even know it and are suffering from what they think is just a cold or sore throat and it will never be anything more than this. Regardless of the how's and why's, many people are suprised by the ability of some races to brush off the Virus's infection and the amount of people who test positive, but who do not becvome ill at all. There is clear evidence in Europe now, that despite the amounts of infections, the Virus is having a more difficlut time to attain traction, or converting those infections into deaths. In belgium they released a white guy yesterday who was infected. And he tested negative twice in 2 days so he was allowed to leave the hospital. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71124074 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Bull fucking shit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78061911 It's a standard flu no different to other crown virii. Note how no one is supporting the lie of the CCP that pneumonia is all but GUARANTEED when contracting the virus which they've exploited to lock down a fractured nation that is suffering economically and a city that had protested for 8 months straight - two critical issues never before encountered by the CCP regime. Let the larpers do their thing. They're arranging their canned food alphabetically and solemnly wishing each other the best, all the while deep down knowing this is yet another nothingburger. Anyone still honestly terrified by this, you have my genuine sympathy. This thing scared the shit out of me too. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78484426 Germany 02/16/2020 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" That is probably our only hope. Still not convinced that this is any more than the common flu for whites, but we shall see From I can see it is all about those ACE-2 receptors. It may be that the Virus is finding it difficult to move from an infection stage to a pnuemonic and more deadly phase in different genetic hosts. It may be that there are many infected, who do not even know it and are suffering from what they think is just a cold or sore throat and it will never be anything more than this. Regardless of the how's and why's, many people are suprised by the ability of some races to brush off the Virus's infection and the amount of people who test positive, but who do not becvome ill at all. There is clear evidence in Europe now, that despite the amounts of infections, the Virus is having a more difficlut time to attain traction, or converting those infections into deaths. In belgium they released a white guy yesterday who was infected. And he tested negative twice in 2 days so he was allowed to leave the hospital. [link to www.brusselstimes.com (secure)] |
Tangy
User ID: 69917668 United States 02/16/2020 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" ROR 4.7-6.6? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56563724 Is this real? If so that's very bad news. Not survivable for a large percent of population. Need to cut off all air travel to/from China. Like today. I believe the report to be very well done, yes. Now, just what is the Los Alamos National Laboratory, and where is the link that proves it comes from their lab, the study, I mean. Thanks. Yes the world will change. However it is survivable. Measles has an R0 of 16 and we survived it. Not saying it is going to be easy. But survivable. Agreed, but, for all the measeles cases, we weren't out of meds, PPE, etc etc. 2nd wave.. 3rd wave.. This isn't 1918 world population numbers anymore, where most had their own farms. Also, China is 80% of pharma’s ingredient sourcing, not to mention PPE manufacturers, I do not even know those numbers. Most people survive measles, though in some cases, complications may occur. There were nearly 10 million cases of measles last year, with outbreaks on every continent. An estimated 140,000 people died from measles in 2018. |
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Tangy
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