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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38471330 United States 02/16/2020 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" ... Quoting: MostHolyFace Tangy has found it refernced in Cornell University. Its real: [link to arxiv.org (secure)] GodBless Most sobering thread on GLP concerning covid 19 yet. For the first time, I feel rather sick to my stomach. I had a panicked feeling the other day a bit. I love history. Have had a lot of tradegies in my own life and so have learnt not to be naive to realise that Life can change in a blink of an Eye. A thought came to me. Totally Selfish. The issue is if anyone needs Ventilation in ICU for this, when its epidemic properly in the West, the first with it will have the best odds of survival. The Chance it appears of those who need ICU vetilation of survival is about 60 odd percent. Without that probably around 80 - 90% will die if there is no Ventilation ICU beds for them, if they get Pnuemonia. Maybe get on a Plane, hang around in singapore airport, fly to hong kong, have zero hand washing, shake hands and hug every chinese person I meet. Hotel for 2 nights. Totally disinfect body scrub, mask up, return to west, so as not to spread, Self Isolate, wait till get sick, present by foot to nearest Hospital, do not enter say where been. Much Higher percentage of surviving! To selfish and dangerous to do. Statistically very wise. If a Narcissist would do it. GodBless. Fail: “return to west” never return, you would be arrested after the “hugging every Chinese person” part. Okay,,, the state can pay my medical bill,,, winning |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78355073 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78355073 From I can see it is all about those ACE-2 receptors. It may be that the Virus is finding it difficult to move from an infection stage to a pnuemonic and more deadly phase in different genetic hosts. It may be that there are many infected, who do not even know it and are suffering from what they think is just a cold or sore throat and it will never be anything more than this. Regardless of the how's and why's, many people are suprised by the ability of some races to brush off the Virus's infection and the amount of people who test positive, but who do not becvome ill at all. There is clear evidence in Europe now, that despite the amounts of infections, the Virus is having a more difficlut time to attain traction, or converting those infections into deaths. In belgium they released a white guy yesterday who was infected. And he tested negative twice in 2 days so he was allowed to leave the hospital. There is a lot of this in the UK and Europe. Infected, just a cold, and then discharged after a week or so. I'm suprised, I'm also suprised at the lack of new cases. Yeah I was wondering if the wave of upper respiratory colds here was "the"virus. Some schools closed for a day saying there was to many kids were at home with the flu. Upper Michigan. As far as I know, all of the people who were infected at the ski resort in France by the Englishman travelling back from singapore have been discharged without falling ill and they are no longer quarantined. The same man, then returned to the UK (Brighton) and infected yet more people. The same scenario has played our for them too. Not only that, the spread of the virus within UK communities seems to be limited and not exponential. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77190242 United States 02/16/2020 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" -CDC just usually said they expect outbreaks in USA... -CNBC has been changing its tune a little more to the reality. -Tom Cotton said the virus went into the wet market , it didn't originate in the market and mentioned the Biolab in Wuhan(just this morning). - Chinas totalitarian harsh draconian measures. - Video leaking out of China, from people on the front lines. - Countries halting flights, mail, etc etc.. - Quarantines. - Misinformation - Confusion - Respected publications admitting the reality....drip drip drip Yeah.... They are trying to stop it, and it just might work!! It probably will. But I think half the world is expecting it to infect, fucking everybody.... Think about the precarious position the world is in right now. Were all holding our breath to see what happens... |
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User ID: 56270897 United States 02/16/2020 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Well, shit. We all already knew this. I'm taking these steps: Grocery shopping before 5 am. Wipe everything with Clorox wipes. Carts, bags, hands, face, steering wheel with them. Seriously thinking about diving glasses too. Proud to be UnV'd There is one constant in life: If you build something worth having, someone will try to take it or destroy it. Proud member of A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments, Americans Who Hate Aging, proud supporter of attractive women. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78055058 United States 02/16/2020 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Well the cats out of the bag as such. Quoting: MostHolyFace No denying it now! " They are saying what is being done in China is needed to control this. We Know though that it is Totalitarianism, and no governmnet in the West Can, due to revolution loosing power, and financial collapse and Panic, they can only just try and manage "Normalcy" for a s long as possible and be Re-Active not very Pro-active. Straight from the horses mouth: [link to arxiv.org (secure)] Nothing More to say realy. See who where involved in this below:+ YOUR and my world will change in ways you can only read about in history books, within the next 36 months. That is for those of us that survive. GodBless. + [link to arxiv.org (secure)] "Theoretical Biology and Biophysics, Theoretical Division,Los Alamos National Laboratory,NM87544,USA. CNLS Center for Nonlinear Studies, Los Alamos National Laboratory, Information Sciences Group, Computer, Computational and Statistical Sciences Division,Los Alamos National Laboratory,Los Alamos,New Mexico. Earth Systems Observations Group Earth and Environmental Sciences Division, Los Alamos National Laboratory. If this is what I think with my critical thinking skills and "conspiracy mind" fuck these people. Deploying a foreign army on our soil will be the spark that sets this off. |
Nobuddy User ID: 78076185 Canada 02/16/2020 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Wake the phuck-up people.. there's been less then 20 people diagnosed & no deaths recorded in the US. All y'all sound like you're ready to kick the shit out of the tomato plants.. put on your masks on & go sit by the curb till the red-cross arrives, how many government agents have we got here.? This is GLP.. settle-down & smarten the phuck-up.!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72134516 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Results show that if as low as 20% of infected persons are asymptomatic and can transmit the virus, then even 95% quarantine efficacy will not be able to contain the virus. |
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User ID: 56466883 South Africa 02/16/2020 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Embrace the change. Nature was always gonna win in the end. Humankind and consciousness is a great natural experiment,but history has shown us that humankind is the virus on the face of the planet. SARS,Mers,Coronavirus etc is Nature's way of fighting back,and the more we throw at her the more she will mutate it into something more severe,there is a message in this and we aint getting it. Get yourself right and do your bit,we all in this together,embrace the change. "I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious." -Albert Einstein |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77190242 United States 02/16/2020 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Wake the phuck-up people.. there's been less then 20 people diagnosed & no deaths recorded in the US. Quoting: Nobuddy 78076185 All y'all sound like you're ready to kick the shit out of the tomato plants.. put on your masks on & go sit by the curb till the red-cross arrives, how many government agents have we got here.? This is GLP.. settle-down & smarten the phuck-up.!! I dont know dude. 70 million in lockdown. new virus they don't know much about. CDC expecting outbreaks, travel to china shutdown, mail shut down, 4plus r0 being predicted by respected scientist/organizations I dont know.. thats them doing this. Not GLP. Maybe you might want to pay attention.... thats all; |
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User ID: 74827762 United States 02/16/2020 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" From the PDF - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72134516 Results show that if as low as 20% of infected persons are asymptomatic and can transmit the virus, then even 95% quarantine efficacy will not be able to contain the virus. That means for almost everyone out there, catching the virus will be a given. It's now a matter of when, not if. Only thing we can hope for is the virus, as it infects millions of people, mutates into a less harmful form of its original self. In the first-class 1970's movie "The Andromeda Strain," that's how the story's fictional microbe lost its punch. . |
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Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 44654501 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" well, there ya go- looks legit BUT, totally unprofessional icon on their tab if you ask me. Stop looking at pretty or not icons. Read the pdf. That, and understand the gallows humor of many intellectuals. <---- It's what many have to do in doomy professions to not lose their marbles. IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 02/16/2020 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" "The Novel Coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated Steven Sanche, Yen Ting Lin, Chonggang Xu, Ethan Romero-Severson, Nick Hengartner, View ORCID ProfileRuian Ke doi: [link to doi.org (secure)] This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice." Hey This is about Maths and Stats not clinical Practice. The place and Departments it came from are the top 1% of the 1% in the world at stats and Maths and modeeling and what they do. FULL STOP. Anyone peer reviewing it as a University lecturer, etc would be totally jelous of those organisations and the level of expertise, resources and clearance to information and cutting edge research those who they were "reviewing" had. It shows the RO and the headline is what is of interest. This is Non managed non "Spun" or propoganda Raw Hard Data, Scientifically Assesed analysed and put through the worlds best supercomputers at Modelling Math and Equations. Somehow me thinks those who know the Physics of Nuclear Explosions, reactions, Design, Testing and the reosurces they have, have um lets say 2+2 =4 Rather than 2+2 =3 Dont you think? I believe there Calculators Bring all the Boys to the Yard, and are bigger than your Dad's Calculator, and those who could review it to :-) GodBless Garbage in, garbage out. Who's data are they relying upon for their modelling, WHO? |
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THE AMERICAN INQUISITOR
User ID: 78464508 United States 02/16/2020 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" drip drip drip... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77190242 -CDC just usually said they expect outbreaks in USA... -CNBC has been changing its tune a little more to the reality. -Tom Cotton said the virus went into the wet market , it didn't originate in the market and mentioned the Biolab in Wuhan(just this morning). - Chinas totalitarian harsh draconian measures. - Video leaking out of China, from people on the front lines. - Countries halting flights, mail, etc etc.. - Quarantines. - Misinformation - Confusion - Respected publications admitting the reality....drip drip drip Yeah.... They are trying to stop it, and it just might work!! It probably will. But I think half the world is expecting it to infect, fucking everybody.... Think about the precarious position the world is in right now. Were all holding our breath to see what happens... WELL SAID.. :nose23l36: SCOTLAND FOREVER America is the Grand Experiment..Let us not Fail.. Listed Number 1 in the Guinness World Record Book of EXTRA LARGE Steel Balls Opinions are like Farts..Only the very best linger on and on Great Men wake up to slay spam tards. Most are content to chase lizards. Therein lies the difference. Live Brave.LIVE FREE. Murphy is my patron Saint. I SIGN MY NEG KARMA |
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User ID: 78464508 United States 02/16/2020 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" well, there ya go- looks legit BUT, totally unprofessional icon on their tab if you ask me. Stop looking at pretty or not icons. Read the pdf. That, and understand the gallows humor of many intellectuals. <---- It's what many have to do in doomy professions to not lose their marbles. YUP.. :nose23l36: SCOTLAND FOREVER America is the Grand Experiment..Let us not Fail.. Listed Number 1 in the Guinness World Record Book of EXTRA LARGE Steel Balls Opinions are like Farts..Only the very best linger on and on Great Men wake up to slay spam tards. Most are content to chase lizards. Therein lies the difference. Live Brave.LIVE FREE. Murphy is my patron Saint. I SIGN MY NEG KARMA |
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(OP) User ID: 76180094 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" I dont know dude. 70 million in lockdown. new virus they don't know much about. CDC expecting outbreaks, travel to china shutdown, mail shut down, 4plus r0 being predicted by respected scientist/organizations Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77190242 I dont know.. thats them doing this. Not GLP. Maybe you might want to pay attention.... thats all; How Denial, Spin, Confirmation Bias, Hope and Ostrich in the Sand has worked before: " My mother was in the act of putting the porridge out for us onto the plates when the first shell cracked. Never dreamt it would be Germans… One of the most popular sayings of 1914 was that the war would be ‘over by Christmas’. In this podcast, some of those who experienced the first months of war explain just how wrong that prediction was. Bill Haine joined up early on. He remembered the mood in Britain when he did so. Well, I thought the same as everybody else. Everybody said ‘It’ll be over by Christmas and you’ve got to get out soon, otherwise you won’t see anything’. But I don’t know if it was my opinion, or if everybody was saying it. " World War 1 "we will be home by ChristMass" [link to www.iwm.org.uk (secure)] GodBless Pray Hope & Dont Worry [link to www.sudariumchristi.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78485609 United States 02/16/2020 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" Embrace the change. Quoting: Starburne Nature was always gonna win in the end. Humankind and consciousness is a great natural experiment,but history has shown us that humankind is the virus on the face of the planet. SARS,Mers,Coronavirus etc is Nature's way of fighting back,and the more we throw at her the more she will mutate it into something more severe,there is a message in this and we aint getting it. Get yourself right and do your bit,we all in this together,embrace the change. Man is the CROWN OF CREATION made in the image of GOD. Those who accept God's free gift of salvation and eternal life, will be transformed into angelic-like beings, sons and daughters of the CREATOR, able to share eternity with the ALMIGHTY. humankind is a virus? Doesn't sound like we'll be seeing YOU in ETERNITY. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 02/16/2020 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" The spread of the disease outside of China doesn't seem to match their models, which lends credence to the idea that what we are being told by governmental and media organizations about this disease is a lie, and that they are playing it up for a phase II release in the target nations, or simply they will use the lie in conjunction with deaths that are manufactured through some other means as the impetus from the type of lockdowns being seen in China, in the west. |
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User ID: 73724632 United States 02/16/2020 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" “...our results suggest that active and strong population;wide social distancing efforts, such as closing down transportation system, schools, discouraging travel, etc., might be needed to reduce the overall contacts to contain the spread of the virus.” Quoting: Light Bulb That's them using this bullshit "virus" to try to bring about the NWO totalitarian government. We don't know what's happened here. What we DO know is that this "virus" as we've seen it here in the West (outside China) is no worse and probably has a lower death rate, than the REGULAR FLU. What's been happening in China may not even BE the same thing. The globalists may be using the Chinese story to spread fear and their agenda across the world. What looks to be most likely in China is that a bioweapon got out in Wuhan, a bio research center. It may or may not be spreading across China, we don't know. But what we've seen in the West so far...is just not impressive. People need to STOP PANICKING OVER THIS ALLEGED VIRUS. We're being played as always. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 02/16/2020 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" I dont know dude. 70 million in lockdown. new virus they don't know much about. CDC expecting outbreaks, travel to china shutdown, mail shut down, 4plus r0 being predicted by respected scientist/organizations Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77190242 I dont know.. thats them doing this. Not GLP. Maybe you might want to pay attention.... thats all; How Denial, Spin, Confirmation Bias, Hope and Ostrich in the Sand has worked before: " My mother was in the act of putting the porridge out for us onto the plates when the first shell cracked. Never dreamt it would be Germans… One of the most popular sayings of 1914 was that the war would be ‘over by Christmas’. In this podcast, some of those who experienced the first months of war explain just how wrong that prediction was. Bill Haine joined up early on. He remembered the mood in Britain when he did so. Well, I thought the same as everybody else. Everybody said ‘It’ll be over by Christmas and you’ve got to get out soon, otherwise you won’t see anything’. But I don’t know if it was my opinion, or if everybody was saying it. " World War 1 "we will be home by ChristMass" [link to www.iwm.org.uk (secure)] GodBless If this is what they have been telling us it is, it would have already have spread uncontrollably in the west due to the lack of safeguards that were put into place with respect to travel coming to and from China, while China was being locked down. The lack of safeguards was implemented deliberately, while we are being fed scary statistics about the disease, but there is a sort of disconnect between what we are seeing and what we are being told. Why is that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76398539 United States 02/16/2020 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Los Alamos National Laboratory"The Novel Coronavirus is Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated" I dont know dude. 70 million in lockdown. new virus they don't know much about. CDC expecting outbreaks, travel to china shutdown, mail shut down, 4plus r0 being predicted by respected scientist/organizations Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77190242 I dont know.. thats them doing this. Not GLP. Maybe you might want to pay attention.... thats all; How Denial, Spin, Confirmation Bias, Hope and Ostrich in the Sand has worked before: " My mother was in the act of putting the porridge out for us onto the plates when the first shell cracked. Never dreamt it would be Germans… One of the most popular sayings of 1914 was that the war would be ‘over by Christmas’. In this podcast, some of those who experienced the first months of war explain just how wrong that prediction was. Bill Haine joined up early on. He remembered the mood in Britain when he did so. Well, I thought the same as everybody else. Everybody said ‘It’ll be over by Christmas and you’ve got to get out soon, otherwise you won’t see anything’. But I don’t know if it was my opinion, or if everybody was saying it. " World War 1 "we will be home by ChristMass" [link to www.iwm.org.uk (secure)] GodBless If this is what they have been telling us it is, it would have already have spread uncontrollably in the west due to the lack of safeguards that were put into place with respect to travel coming to and from China, while China was being locked down. The lack of safeguards was implemented deliberately, while we are being fed scary statistics about the disease, but there is a sort of disconnect between what we are seeing and what we are being told. Why is that? Project Zyphr kicking off. |
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