Neighbor 42 who had Flu dead... | |
~kpm~
User ID: 75950402 United States 02/16/2020 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SkyTraveler Please research the Covid facts. Please don’t be naive. The sudden dropping of people has been discussed here along with cytokine storm information. Cytokine Storms also apply to Influenza and can cause people to drop dead similarly to Coronavirus... That’s probably the leading cause of most flu, pneumonia deaths here Know the symptoms of it and act quickly Classification CRS is a form of systemic inflammatory response syndrome and is an adverse effect of some drugs. The Common Terminology Criteria for Adverse Events classifications for CRS as of version 4.03 issued in 2010 were: Grade 1: Mild reaction, infusion interruption not indicated; intervention not indicated Grade 2: Therapy or infusion interruption indicated but responds promptly to symptomatic treatment (e.g., antihistamines, NSAIDS, narcotics, IV fluids); prophylactic medications indicated for <=24 hrs Grade 3: Prolonged (e.g., not rapidly responsive to symptomatic medication and/or brief interruption of infusion); recurrence of symptoms following initial improvement; hospitalization indicated for clinical sequelae (e.g., renal impairment, pulmonary infiltrates) Grade 4: Life-threatening consequences; pressor or ventilatory support indicated Grade 5: Death [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] It appears people who initially survive the Cytokine Storm may a few days later have a delayed death due to not recovering from Immunoparalysis: “Systemic production of IL-10 following the onset of a cytokine storm is a marker of a counter-anti-inflammatory response that has been termed “immunoparalysis,” in that it is associated with downregulation of neutrophil and monocyte function in the systemic circulation. Downregulation of systemic inflammation might be conceptually beneficial in controlling systemic responses to local infections. However, it has been suggested that patients who survive the initial cytokine storm but subsequently die may be those who do not recover from immunoparalysis. Patients with persistent downregulation of HLA-DR (a marker of immunosuppression) on monocytes 3 to 4 days after the onset of severe sepsis and cytokine storm have a high mortality rate, suggesting a rationale for therapy to reverse immunosuppression under such circumstances.” - [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] This is why we have to have knowledge to speak up if we are faced with this situation School family members on signs and symptoms and demand tests be done if anyone gets the flu, pneumonia or coronavirus ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77222866 United States 02/16/2020 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He supposedly just recovering from flu and pneumonia. He fell dead in garage. They are investigating why. Quoting: Baby Xoda “Florida” Around 36,000 people DIE in the US every year from the flu.....regular old flu.... Do you really believe that number? Come on, do you know ANYONE that died from the flu? If that were the case, all of our grandparents would be dropping like flies from the flu... Every time they get together to play pinnacle or bingo, someone else would be missing from dying of the flu. Use you head man. That's 1 in 10,000. Do you know 10,000 people? |
Wharf Rat
User ID: 77537178 United States 02/16/2020 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78105425 United States 02/16/2020 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Several in FL have died from the Flu, which isn't so unusual. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78121322 Two children recently died from flu complications. With the Flu it will be very difficult to determine if it's the flu of the China virus. what about the other 10,000 folks who died from the annual flu by Feb this year in the US? why are you not freaking..he was just one more of them......... there is so much going down now and GLP seems stuck on this thing........we keep hearing how it will spead over the next month...it will kill 50% of the world population...it will do this and that. well??????? when does this start? it has been 1 1/5 month now with doom failing everyday.... in reality.....Question??? Where did all the Chinese Protesters GO!!!!!!! how is the Democrats Primary going. lot slipping under GLP's radar today. In 3 weeks time we went from 50 confirmed cases TOTAL to 70,000... 1,500 dead... and some estimates are that cases are being under-reported by as much as 20x. Where have you been? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72430464 United States 02/16/2020 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
~kpm~
User ID: 75950402 United States 02/16/2020 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what are you guys going to do if you come down with the “flu” ? . Last Edited by ~kpm~ on 02/16/2020 11:24 AM ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28698215 United States 02/16/2020 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know why. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659 I went to Costco a few days ago. A chinese guy was there coughing every few minutes or so. Then suddenly had a pretty large sneezing attack. I kept my distance when I first saw him, after the coughing and sneezing I turned around and left the store. This virus is being spread everywhere. Its almost as if the chinese guy was intentionally trying to spread the virus. Any person in public I see wearing a mask is chinese. Ask youself why? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78369195 United States 02/16/2020 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Several in FL have died from the Flu, which isn't so unusual. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78121322 Two children recently died from flu complications. With the Flu it will be very difficult to determine if it's the flu of the China virus. Flu complications??? Dont you mean doktor complications? Doktors kill more with drugs and procedures than any flu could do and yet no one afraid to go to the DOKtor |
Windsage
User ID: 77763753 United States 02/16/2020 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know why. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659 I went to Costco a few days ago. A chinese guy was there coughing every few minutes or so. Then suddenly had a pretty large sneezing attack. I kept my distance when I first saw him, after the coughing and sneezing I turned around and left the store. This virus is being spread everywhere. Its almost as if the chinese guy was intentionally trying to spread the virus. What town? |
ElleMira
User ID: 76494359 United States 02/16/2020 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28698215 United States 02/16/2020 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
~kpm~
User ID: 75950402 United States 02/16/2020 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what are you guys going to do if you come down with the “flu” ? Quoting: ~kpm~ Should we lie and say we had contact with someone from China so we get tested? Do you want to be quarantined with other possible suspected cases of corona? Hell no, never thought about that aspect, was more worried about getting tested Ugh Erased it from my post, thanks for pointing that out! . Last Edited by ~kpm~ on 02/16/2020 11:25 AM ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
ElleMira
User ID: 76494359 United States 02/16/2020 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know why. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659 I went to Costco a few days ago. A chinese guy was there coughing every few minutes or so. Then suddenly had a pretty large sneezing attack. I kept my distance when I first saw him, after the coughing and sneezing I turned around and left the store. This virus is being spread everywhere. Its almost as if the chinese guy was intentionally trying to spread the virus. I live in NH and there are a ton of Chinese that go to the Costco in Nashua. I won't step foot in there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60688829 Canada 02/16/2020 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It happens all the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72430464 That espn dude who died a few months ago was in his thirties Corona has a long, long way to go before being even close to the killer that the normal flu is. Ya because Polly Anna types like you won't test people for the corona virus unless they have been to China recently or knowingly come in contact with someone who has. Meanwhile people are probably dropping dead from this corona virus and it is being counted as the regular flu but keep sticking your head in the sand and ignore corona cases that don't fit the stereotypical profile of a Asian traveler from China. |
OU8122
User ID: 78369652 United States 02/16/2020 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Wharf Rat
User ID: 77537178 United States 02/16/2020 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
DeplorableDoomsdayGuy®
User ID: 78194907 United States 02/16/2020 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We all know why. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75993659 I went to Costco a few days ago. A chinese guy was there coughing every few minutes or so. Then suddenly had a pretty large sneezing attack. I kept my distance when I first saw him, after the coughing and sneezing I turned around and left the store. This virus is being spread everywhere. Its almost as if the chinese guy was intentionally trying to spread the virus. I have always worried about this type of scenario. All Ahkmed has to do is get himself infected and go to a mall, a concert, the Superbowl, Chuck E Cheese if he wants to kill two birds with one stone, etc.. Last Edited by Pinochet'sChopperPilot on 02/16/2020 11:26 AM Come on and take a free ride. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77553547 Nicaragua 02/16/2020 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He supposedly just recovering from flu and pneumonia. He fell dead in garage. They are investigating why. Quoting: Baby Xoda “Florida” Around 36,000 people DIE in the US every year from the flu.....regular old flu.... That is fake data. The CDC makes estimates of flu deaths by examining a cross-section of death certificates. Death by respiratory failure (which could be from cancer, lung disease, or natural causes) is considered death by flu to justify vaccines. Real flu deaths in the US are in the 30s. In the past few years, it appears that the majority of flu deaths occurred in people who were vaccinated for the flu. This is a weaponized 'flu'. It is not a normal virus. This will cause a huge (inevitable) economic collapse, revolution or an exponential Orwell effect in China. China's superpower status is gone. It also makes WW3 easier to launch now that China is in the sidelines. What happens if we allow governments to quarantine the majority of the population on the planet? "What would things been like [in Russia] if during periods of mass arrests people had not simply sat there, paling with terror at every bang on the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people?" ~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn |
nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States 02/16/2020 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As everyone knows, not all flu illnesses are the corona virus. For those of you blaming our government for allowing flights into the USA, and we're all going to die because of China, are you aware of the typical "Flu Season Illnesses and Deaths" that occur EVERY YEAR in the USA? Take a look: [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] Last Edited by nutmeg on 02/16/2020 11:28 AM |
Mental Case
User ID: 77541782 United States 02/16/2020 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75993659 Canada 02/16/2020 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He supposedly just recovering from flu and pneumonia. He fell dead in garage. They are investigating why. Quoting: Baby Xoda “Florida” Around 36,000 people DIE in the US every year from the flu.....regular old flu.... Do you really believe that number? Come on, do you know ANYONE that died from the flu? If that were the case, all of our grandparents would be dropping like flies from the flu... Every time they get together to play pinnacle or bingo, someone else would be missing from dying of the flu. Use you head man. That's 1 in 10,000. Do you know 10,000 people? Rate of Downs Syndrome is 6000 births per year in the USA. How many Downs Syndrome people have you seen? I've seen plenty in real life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77635199 United States 02/16/2020 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
BA User ID: 75706840 Greece 02/16/2020 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neighbor, 52 died night before last of pneumonia.. Seemed fine night before. They found her face down in the "praying" position on the floor. Said it looked like she had prepared food to eat, as if she was going to eat and then died. ? Another neighbor found her and called 911. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8778933 *Central Florida* Wow. Its here. bs to teh max, every idiot is taking advantage of the situation and transmits fear, and since most are utterly fools, they believe the first fool. A World full of fools...lol |
nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States 02/16/2020 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He supposedly just recovering from flu and pneumonia. He fell dead in garage. They are investigating why. Quoting: Baby Xoda “Florida” Around 36,000 people DIE in the US every year from the flu.....regular old flu.... You're correct. I just posted the website above...statistics from October 1, 2019, through February 8, 2020 from the CDC. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71124074 United Kingdom 02/16/2020 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Several in FL have died from the Flu, which isn't so unusual. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78121322 Two children recently died from flu complications. With the Flu it will be very difficult to determine if it's the flu of the China virus. No its not. All it takes is a test. So are the deceased from the cold, flu or pneumonia complications” actually getting tested? Is it now protocol for county coroners? Good idea but not if it’s not implemented. Hopefully the corpses don't give the coroner-a-virus. I amuse myself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78105425 United States 02/16/2020 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He supposedly just recovering from flu and pneumonia. He fell dead in garage. They are investigating why. Quoting: Baby Xoda “Florida” Around 36,000 people DIE in the US every year from the flu.....regular old flu.... Do you really believe that number? Come on, do you know ANYONE that died from the flu? If that were the case, all of our grandparents would be dropping like flies from the flu... Every time they get together to play pinnacle or bingo, someone else would be missing from dying of the flu. Use you head man. That's 1 in 10,000. Do you know 10,000 people? I posted this before but my numbers were off so I reworked it. Considering the flu is said to kill mostly elderly people: In 2007 1,755,567 people over the age of 65 died. In 2007, the CDC says between 3,000 and 49,000 died of the flu. Let's work with 36,000 because that leaves room for infants... 1,755,567 elderly/36,000 official flu deaths in 2007. = 48.765 That means that 1 in 49 old people are dying of the flu each year. That's a lot considering I've never heard of it and neither has anyone I've asked known of someone to die of the flu. I would say that 30-60,000 people die of the flue statistic is meant to scare you into getting the shot, but that's just my take. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60688829 Canada 02/16/2020 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As everyone knows, not all flu illnesses are the corona virus. For those of you blaming our government for allowing flights into the USA, and we're all going to die because of China, are you aware of the typical "Flu Season Illnesses and Deaths" that occur EVERY YEAR in the USA?r Quoting: nutmeg Take a look: [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] This is not as tame as the flu. The corona virus kills 20 times or more people than the flu. Look at what China is having to do to contain this thing. You don't quarantine half your country and shut down manufacturing for a virus that is no deadlier than the regular flu. Just stop with ridiculous comparisons with the flu. |
Zoinkaeon
User ID: 12343871 United States 02/16/2020 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neighbor, 52 died night before last of pneumonia.. Seemed fine night before. They found her face down in the "praying" position on the floor. Said it looked like she had prepared food to eat, as if she was going to eat and then died. ? Another neighbor found her and called 911. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8778933 *Central Florida* Wow. Its here. bs to teh max, every idiot is taking advantage of the situation and transmits fear, and since most are utterly fools, they believe the first fool. A World full of fools...lol And why should we believe you? If you practice what you preached, wouldn't you be just as much of a fool as the rest of us? Ash Nazg Durbatulûk, Ash Nazg Gimbatul, Ash Nazg Thrakatulûk, Agh Burzum-ishi Krimpatul |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72430464 United States 02/16/2020 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It happens all the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72430464 That espn dude who died a few months ago was in his thirties Corona has a long, long way to go before being even close to the killer that the normal flu is. Ya because Polly Anna types like you won't test people for the corona virus unless they have been to China recently or knowingly come in contact with someone who has. Meanwhile people are probably dropping dead from this corona virus and it is being counted as the regular flu but keep sticking your head in the sand and ignore corona cases that don't fit the stereotypical profile of a Asian traveler from China. pollyanna like you are the ones clutching your pearls and fainting onto the fainting couch every five minutes. |
Wharf Rat
User ID: 77537178 United States 02/16/2020 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He supposedly just recovering from flu and pneumonia. He fell dead in garage. They are investigating why. Quoting: Baby Xoda “Florida” Around 36,000 people DIE in the US every year from the flu.....regular old flu.... You're correct. I just posted the website above...statistics from October 1, 2019, through February 8, 2020 from the CDC. From my personal transcript of 1/31 CDC presser: Dr Anthony Fauci: "I can start off by putting it into perspective by telling you that I often get asked, "We get an influenza outbreak here we have about 8000 deaths already, 100,000 hospitalizations, why are we paying such attention and why are we doing the kinds of things we're doing right now?" Well the reason is despite the morbidity and mortality with influenza, there is a certainty, for example, of seasonal flu. I Can tell you all guaranteed that as we get into March and April the flu cases are gonna go down. You can predict pretty accurately what the range of the mortality is and the hospitalizations, as we have done over the years. The issue now with this is that there are lots of unknowns. As you can see int he media the number of cases as STEEPLY INCLINED each and every day. You know in the beginning were were not sure if there was asymptomatic infection - which would make it a much broader out break than what we're seeing. now we know for sure that there are. ~Wharf Rat |