Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74996941 France 02/17/2020 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Most of people don't have the least idea of the necessary organization such a pandemic implies in the worst case situation of overcrowded area, doubled by the New Year vast population move. So, where many people see conspiracy, one must simply see logistic issues for such large scale problem to solve. That means that data entirely depend on those dedicated to their collection, while taking care of the sick people, in a restricted and confined location. Otherwise, no number could be meaningful. That said, even in this more controlled situation, numbers remain uncertain. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74996941 France 02/17/2020 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. So, it should a real nighmare for the Chinese to manage this (dis)organization. China has only 1.8 doctors per capita, that is one doctor for 1,000 people. The average is 3.4: [link to www.oecd-ilibrary.org (secure)] Imagine, India has 0.7 doctors for 1,000 people. Hence no numbers from there. For taking care of just 60 million Chinese people suspected to be infected (Hubei province only), they need at least one doctor for 100 people, that is 60.000.000 / 100 = 600.000 doctors, a number normally available for around 600.000 / 1.8 x 1,000 = around 334 million people! They must make them travel and inhabit the Hubei province (but where?) in just few days, while no more available elsewhere where infected people also multiple. In other words, they are screwed. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74996941 France 02/17/2020 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Maybe you'll want to take a look at the map of cases in China.. it's all over china, not concentrated. It has the biggest numbers around Wuhan, but it's not just in that area, at all! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78489110 I know that. My point is to explain why the big numbers are in the Hubei province, not elsewhere. The Chinese, despite having put the means and personels in the Hubei province, are not able to manage this single situation there. So, imagine in the other provinces where the numbers are even less accurate, farther from the truth, NOT BECAUSE THEY LIE, BUT BECAUSE THE LOGISTICAL MEANS AND PERSONELS ARE LARGELY UNSUFFICIENT! To feed a database you need 1) the real data and 2) the people following and typing those data. In other words, they are unable to follow up the pandemic. And we talk about a government that took EXCEPTIONAL UNPRECEDENTED MEASURES! Imagine the rest of the world where about nothing of that scale has been decided! Not only the numbers are NECESSARILY false EVERYWHERE due to unadequate means and personels to follow up the real numbers, but ALL means of travel are maintained everywhere, except in China, to feed overpopulated areas. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74996941 France 02/17/2020 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. So, it should be a real nighmare for the Chinese to manage this (dis)organization. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941 China has only 1.8 doctors per capita, that is one doctor for 1,000 people. The average is 3.4: [link to www.oecd-ilibrary.org (secure)] .../... Fixed. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74996941 France 02/17/2020 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. So, it should be a real nighmare for the Chinese to manage this (dis)organization. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941 China has only 1.8 doctors per capita, that is 1.8 doctors for 1,000 people. The average is 3.4: [link to read.oecd-ilibrary.org (secure)] .../... Fixed. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74996941 France 02/17/2020 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. In the link above, you can see that the most populated countries (except USA, at only 2.6), where the covid-19 has the greatest risk to be spread, are also the countries with the lowest number of doctors per capita. In other words, don't wait for numbers from them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78420351 United States 02/17/2020 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The numbers would be way worse then we know, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78461923 In Australia they had 15 with coronavirus 8 days ago. Nothing has changed. I’m not buying that You're right. They can only be far bigger due to logitical issues. Your right. They don't even have tests for it in Africa Nations. It seems all numbers have just frozen and officials are peculiarly quiet. They are all under NDAs. All Countries are keeping it quiet until they no longer can. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78489633 United States 02/17/2020 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The real answer is that more people in China and Asia have had the SARs vaccine. If you had the Sars vaccine and get COVID--19 you die. Period. I'll keep posting this link until people get this through their thick heads. [link to journals.plos.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4051321 United States 02/17/2020 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The real answer is that more people in China and Asia have had the SARs vaccine. If you had the Sars vaccine and get COVID--19 you die. Period. I'll keep posting this link until people get this through their thick heads. [link to journals.plos.org (secure)] Quoting: Wildthing3 There was a scandal about vaccines in Wuhan last year or two..also there was a goal to double amounts of vaccines last year. I think they messed up a batch also. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76010295 United States 02/17/2020 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. In the link above, you can see that the most populated countries (except USA, at only 2.6), where the covid-19 has the greatest risk to be spread, are also the countries with the lowest number of doctors per capita. In other words, don't wait for numbers from them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941 The number of doctors is not the issue. Equipment is the issue. Oxygen is the issue. Anyone with a decent education and a few days training can be taught how to read the tests and xrays needed to diagnose a patient. At that point, the protocol to treat that patient is mostly the same. IV, oxygen, respirator, suction, etc. The problem is that the equipment isn’t available even if you trained a layman to use it. Inserting an IV line and hooking up a bag can be easily taught. But do try have the supplies and IV fluids? Doctors would become supervisors and treat only those with emergencies and those with other diagnoses. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76862206 United States 02/17/2020 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. What tests are being used? I thought the CDC admitted theirs were l20% accurate? How were tests developed (criteria) when China is not participating in research? I agree w other thread - we still don’t know jack shit about this. Seems like we’re being steered. |
Lily User ID: 76921716 United States 02/17/2020 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. In the link above, you can see that the most populated countries (except USA, at only 2.6), where the covid-19 has the greatest risk to be spread, are also the countries with the lowest number of doctors per capita. In other words, don't wait for numbers from them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941 As for China, never ever ever trust even one number from them. Even the CCP admits that their numbers don't add up in numerous areas. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78463892 United States 02/17/2020 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Nope local state governments are not reporting so they dont cause panic and economic stress...in florida they said its against the law to publish info or some bullshit it took desantis to come out and say no 'confirmed' cases yet and all 'tests' 'as of 'right now' have come back negative... believe nothing and trust no one... assume the worse and prepare because you know in your heart its only a matter of time...stay on glp because its almost only place left that allows uncensored truth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68745322 United States 02/17/2020 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The numbers would be way worse then we know, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78461923 In Australia they had 15 with coronavirus 8 days ago. Nothing has changed. I’m not buying that I am thoroughly convinced it is not the novel corona virus itself that is killing all of these Chinese men. It is a reaction between that virus and a CCP mandatory SARS vaccination that took place right before the outbreak occurred. It is extremely telling that children are not dying and the illness seems to be killing older Chinese men almost exclusively. Add 2 and 2 and get 4. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68745322 United States 02/17/2020 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941 One Word VACCINE The people of Hubei Province got an experimental vaccine that sensitized them to coronavirus. i think the CCP would have to be insane to inflict this on themselves. I think *someone* developed a bio weapon that can only be activated as deadly by the vaccine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35676288 United States 02/17/2020 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Because its not a plague or virus. Its Ricin or Anthrax or something like that. 99% Grown Men ONLY No women, children All Asians Ok, so what do Asian men do that women and children DO NOT do? Eat steamed clams Eat SNAKES Eat BATS Use condoms. Condoms are free over there no? Prolly jacked up with anthrax or something. Asian men only for the most part. SNAKES AND BATS I'll almost bet on it. Anyone elsewhere with any some of lung issues is grown males who came from Asia. STD, snakes or bats. Aside from STD that is nothing Americans need to worry about. We just need to keep Asian flights out, watch shipping containers. |
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