Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. | |
Watcher of the End Game
User ID: 23688260 United States 02/17/2020 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The real answer is that more people in China and Asia have had the SARs vaccine. If you had the Sars vaccine and get COVID--19 you die. Period. I'll keep posting this link until people get this through their thick heads. [link to journals.plos.org (secure)] Quoting: Wildthing3 Did you read the link? It was a study used on non-primates. Never used on humans. |
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BeetusTech
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BeetusTech
User ID: 78490293 United States 02/17/2020 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The real answer is that more people in China and Asia have had the SARs vaccine. If you had the Sars vaccine and get COVID--19 you die. Period. I'll keep posting this link until people get this through their thick heads. [link to journals.plos.org (secure)] Quoting: Wildthing3 Did you read the link? It was a study used on non-primates. Never used on humans. Think the Chinese didn’t sneak a test SARS vaccine on the Wuhan people? Sounds about right for them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78401573 Canada 02/17/2020 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Yep, its not that amazing north America is being spared so it seems, when they aren't testing anyone how the hell are they going to know the numbers. Until the incubation time passes and bodies start hitting the floor no one has a clue what's going on here. |
Shaell
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Anonymous coward User ID: 77296270 United Kingdom 02/17/2020 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. You think USA is safe? ONLY 2.6 doctors per capita. The average is 3.4. Japan is 2.4. The safest place is Europe around 4. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941 Don't know about that, my gp has a notice saying he/she is responsible for 2000 patients, average waiting time for an appointment 5-6 weeks seems to be the norm. Guess you could catch the virus, recover, get reinforced, die, get buried before your appointment comes up. Inspires confidence not. |
Anonymous coward User ID: 77296270 United Kingdom 02/17/2020 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. You think USA is safe? ONLY 2.6 doctors per capita. The average is 3.4. Japan is 2.4. The safest place is Europe around 4. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941 Don't know about that, my gp has a notice saying he/she is responsible for 2000 patients, average waiting time for an appointment 5-6 weeks seems to be the norm. Guess you could catch the virus, recover, get reinfected, die, get buried before your appointment comes up. Inspires confidence not. |
Anonymous coward User ID: 77296270 United Kingdom 02/17/2020 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Not only an experimental vaccine, but also 5G radiation. Combine the two, and I suspect this is what happens. This might have been a deliberate experiment, or complete incompetence. That being said, the major telecom companies have billions to lose if truth about it gets out. Quoting: Shaell Suspect it will be an 1984 scenario, we will be forbidden to speak about it just like the poison vaccines. No facts allowed just doublespeak. |
CK Dexter Haven
User ID: 77970696 Romania 02/17/2020 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The real answer is that more people in China and Asia have had the SARs vaccine. If you had the Sars vaccine and get COVID--19 you die. Period. I'll keep posting this link until people get this through their thick heads. [link to journals.plos.org (secure)] Quoting: Wildthing3 Did you read the link? It was a study used on non-primates. Never used on humans. Actually a phase 1 trial was documented way back in 2007. "Why Is the Mortality Rate So Low Outside of China? The current mortality rate outside of China is very low, I estimate around 0.005%, compared to the 2.3% rate in China. Most if not all of the deaths outside of China have involved Chinese citizens who have traveled abroad. Current hypotheses include that a covert SARS vaccination program was included in the national mandatory vaccination program started on Dec 1, 2019 that happened to involve a secondary true outbreak of Coronavirus with secondary exposure. Under such conditions, the animal models clearly show that vaccination against SARS spike proteins lead to high rates of morbidity and mortality, especially in older mice. No children seem to be dying in China, consistent with them being excluded from a large-scale initial Phase II or Phase III trial. Mortality appears highest in Hubei and Wuhan as well. We know a Phase I trial against SARS was conducted with 120 people by Sinovac around 2007. Another possibility is that a vaccine used by the Chinese has weakened their response to an otherwise mild coronavirus infection. SARS 2 binding to ACE2 is weaker. Thimerosal inhibits ERAP1. Vaccination with aluminum hydroxide containing vaccines might induce autoimmunity in the lungs. All of these factors could play a role in making vaccinated individuals more susceptible. A third possibility is that people in that geographic region who had prior SARS infections might be less able to fight off SARS 2 simply due to original antigenic sin from infection. Toronto, Canada, take note." [link to jameslyonsweiler.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78483270 Australia 02/17/2020 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. also test kits are scarce and a bunch of them sent out by the CDC didn't work properly also they're doing dumb things like allowing people to go out in the community while they wait for test results there has been a strong clampdown on coronavirus news this past week, the numbers in the west cannot be trusted |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78483270 Australia 02/17/2020 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. they're not testing people with symptoms unless they've been to china or wuhan, even as cases continue to grow in other countries and will eventually spread Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78483270 also test kits are scarce and a bunch of them sent out by the CDC didn't work properly also they're doing dumb things like allowing people to go out in the community while they wait for test results there has been a strong clampdown on coronavirus news this past week, the numbers in the west cannot be trusted also china had a 2 month headstart if quarantines are not enforced properly, we could be facing the same drastic measures outside of china in 2 months |
thinking...
User ID: 78212432 United States 02/17/2020 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Because this is not a pandemic and this virus is not as deadly as has been hyped. It appears to be akin to a flu. Something else is going on in China - like a mass culling of the population. In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined: With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world, And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor. Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator. “Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.” – Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project |
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User ID: 77082640 United States 02/17/2020 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Because this is not a pandemic and this virus is not as deadly as has been hyped. It appears to be akin to a flu. Something else is going on in China - like a mass culling of the population. Quoting: thinking... This but also the virus is a designer genetic ACE2 specific. Wuhan lab has had 2 other leaks in the past but this one went beyond their control, suggesting foul play. |
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piratedon
User ID: 72624776 New Zealand 02/17/2020 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. What is most important is that this discussion is able to adopt a suitable venue and proceed. That it be engaged in by people able to think rationally, creatively and laterally. I don't know if I qualify but that probably shouldn't stop me or others. This is a virus apparently known to self mutate, specific information about each mutation is limited and it is pushing many human endeavors further toward entropy (health, economics, finance, politics, science? and others). Is it possible that each mutation carries its own characteristics? Some of which compound or have differing consequences for those previously infected. This would be easily masked by the rawness of the statistics presently available but may be more evident with focus. piratedon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77439123 United States 02/17/2020 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Because this is not a pandemic and this virus is not as deadly as has been hyped. It appears to be akin to a flu. Something else is going on in China - like a mass culling of the population. Quoting: thinking... By that logic we should all be considered warned in that disease is in most modern western nations right now. Culling of our populations is a near certainty. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78185358 United States 02/17/2020 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The real answer is that more people in China and Asia have had the SARs vaccine. If you had the Sars vaccine and get COVID--19 you die. Period. I'll keep posting this link until people get this through their thick heads. [link to journals.plos.org (secure)] Quoting: Wildthing3 Not to mention the fact that on 12/1/2019 China mandated vaccinations and those very longs lines of people supposedly waiting to be seen at the hospitals who didn't look sick, might have been there for their vaccines. Just putting that out there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77755154 United States 02/17/2020 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. All is a matter of LOGISTIC and AVAILABLE DATA! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941 Imagine for a while that NO action NOR information would be decided and spread from China since last december. The world would be totally unaware of such a novel coronavirus spreading everywhere and the cases would take a very long time to define the source, the nature of the desease and its effects on people. Dead numbers would be larger without explanations but none would really take care in the flu season. Now, China has decided to take unprecedented decisions to lockdown whole cities, then whole provinces, and to daily declare a number of suspected people, infected people (serious or not) and dead from that covid-19. What China first did is to concentrate all its means and medical personels in Wuhan, then in the Hubei province. In other words, its whole capacity to limit the coronavirus spreading was focused on a single spot where numbers were observable with dedicated people. But it was already too late. Now, China can't do the same for the other provinces, hence erratic numbers from elsewhere. Given the unpreparedness and lack of means in other countries (see the Japan exemple with the Diamond Princess cruise ship), the other governments have not the least idea of the real numbers, EXCEPT THROUGH MATHEMATICAL MODELS! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57730592 United States 02/17/2020 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. In China the virus SUPPOSEDLY exploded to tens of thousands inside of a month. The first few US citizens had corona over a month ago and it’s not spreading at all. And don’t say some dumb shit that it’s still incubating because it’s not. We would see other victims by now. Many of them. And we are t seeing them China is trolling the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76026754 United States 02/17/2020 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The real answer is that more people in China and Asia have had the SARs vaccine. If you had the Sars vaccine and get COVID--19 you die. Period. I'll keep posting this link until people get this through their thick heads. [link to journals.plos.org (secure)] Quoting: Wildthing3 There was a scandal about vaccines in Wuhan last year or two..also there was a goal to double amounts of vaccines last year. I think they messed up a batch also. I said something similar about a week ago. I think this is a foiled up vaccine trial. |
piratedon
User ID: 72624776 New Zealand 02/17/2020 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. On another thread there is this link [link to www.intellihub.com (secure)] suggesting coronavirus as prion then I found this [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] "Coronavirus as Corona Prion in Plague Inc, Premium APK 2020" Watch it while it still exists. Maybe someone can download it Last Edited by piratedon on 02/17/2020 06:57 PM piratedon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1622847 Iraq 02/17/2020 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. In China the virus SUPPOSEDLY exploded to tens of thousands inside of a month. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57730592 The first few US citizens had corona over a month ago and it’s not spreading at all. And don’t say some dumb shit that it’s still incubating because it’s not. We would see other victims by now. Many of them. And we are t seeing them China is trolling the world. THIS! It's something they DID to the people in Wuhan. Yes it can spread but those in Wuhan are clearly FAR MORE susceptible to complications. We don't know why. Finally someone else has worked it out! WOOOHOOOOO! |
telling it straight
User ID: 69392795 United States 02/17/2020 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. The numbers would be way worse then we know, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78461923 In Australia they had 15 with coronavirus 8 days ago. Nothing has changed. I’m not buying that And add to this the the fact people are being told this is nothing more than a bad flu that kills only old people and no one‘s going to be as Cautious or concerned and careful as they should be. |
WhoPooted
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78470982 United States 02/17/2020 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. Because its not a plague or virus. Its Ricin or Anthrax or something like that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35676288 99% Grown Men ONLY No women, children All Asians Ok, so what do Asian men do that women and children DO NOT do? Eat steamed clams Eat SNAKES Eat BATS Use condoms. Condoms are free over there no? Prolly jacked up with anthrax or something. Asian men only for the most part. SNAKES AND BATS I'll almost bet on it. Anyone elsewhere with any some of lung issues is grown males who came from Asia. STD, snakes or bats. Aside from STD that is nothing Americans need to worry about. We just need to keep Asian flights out, watch shipping containers. They are killing the men that were their only one (male) child doctrine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73066195 United States 02/17/2020 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Why are the COVID-19 numbers OUTSIDE China, and even outside Hubei, SO LOW? Here is the simple answer. All is a matter of LOGISTIC and AVAILABLE DATA! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74996941 Imagine for a while that NO action NOR information would be decided and spread from China since last december. The world would be totally unaware of such a novel coronavirus spreading everywhere and the cases would take a very long time to define the source, the nature of the desease and its effects on people. Dead numbers would be larger without explanations but none would really take care in the flu season. Now, China has decided to take unprecedented decisions to lockdown whole cities, then whole provinces, and to daily declare a number of suspected people, infected people (serious or not) and dead from that covid-19. What China first did is to concentrate all its means and medical personels in Wuhan, then in the Hubei province. In other words, its whole capacity to limit the coronavirus spreading was focused on a single spot where numbers were observable with dedicated people. But it was already too late. Now, China can't do the same for the other provinces, hence erratic numbers from elsewhere. Given the unpreparedness and lack of means in other countries (see the Japan exemple with the Diamond Princess cruise ship), the other governments have not the least idea of the real numbers, EXCEPT THROUGH MATHEMATICAL MODELS! Nice try, but it ignores the fact that no persons (in any significant quantity) of non-Chinese genetic stock have died from Coronavirus. The only persons who are dying the horrible deaths quickly and in numbers impossible to ignore at this point, are persons of Chinese genetic stock. The virus clearly targets their genome, whether they are in mainland China or dropping dead in Europe or Indonesia, the fact is that it is only persons of Chinese genetic stock who are dying in any significant numbers. This is a point that is virtually ignored by the gatekeepers in the Western propaganda outlets, which tells me that it is exactly true. The Coronavirus is clearly a bioweapon targeting the Chinese genome. |