CDC screwd up! 14 of the people they just flew to US have COVID 19!!!

No, I don't hate it because my rant is valid. They are not starting the quarantine over when a suspected case is found.

And, direct from the horse's mouth (CDC)... there are three criteria they use to validate someone is safe (see below) - not a very good criteria.
-free from fever
-no longer showing symptons
-tested negative on two tests

FYI - several people have not tested positive until the 3rd test. Fever is not always present and many people are asymptomatic. SO, THERE!!!


To the troll -- From the link below:

Q: Can someone who has had COVID-19 spread the illness to others?

A: The virus that causes COVID-19 is spreading from person-to-person. Someone who is actively sick with COVID-19 can spread the illness to others. That is why CDC recommends that these patients be isolated either in the hospital or at home (depending on how sick they are) until they are better and no longer pose a risk of infecting others.

How long someone is actively sick can vary so the decision on when to release someone from isolation is made on a case-by-case basis in consultation with doctors, infection prevention and control experts, and public health officials and involves considering specifics of each situation including disease severity, illness signs and symptoms, and results of laboratory testing for that patient.

Current CDC guidance for when it is OK to release someone from isolation is made on a case by case basis and includes meeting all of the following requirements:

The patient is free from fever without the use of fever-reducing medications.
The patient is no longer showing symptoms, including cough.
The patient has tested negative on at least two consecutive respiratory specimens collected at least 24 hours apart.

Someone what has been released from isolation is not considered to pose a risk of infection to others.

Q: Can someone who has been quarantined for COVID-19 spread the illness to others?

A: Quarantine means the separating a person or group of people who have been exposed to a contagious disease but have not developed illness (symptoms) from others who have not been exposed in order to prevent the possible spread of that disease. Quarantine is usually established for the incubation period of the communicable disease, which is the span of time during which people have developed illness after exposure. For COVID-19, the period of quarantine is 14 days from the last date of exposure because 14 days is the longest incubation period seen for similar coronaviruses. Someone who has been released from COVID-19 quarantine is not considered a risk for spreading the virus to others because the have not developed illness during the incubation period.


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we're all gonna git died!

Thread: Coronavirus - why you need to watch the Diamond Princess

There ARE NOT "segregated areas" of a flight. Air recirculates in the cabin. What fucktards.

If you really want the full experience of watching that clip, mute the sound and play this as the music in the background.

Their in quarrntine. Stop fainting over everything, we need men not girly boys..now go to school before your Mommy finds out

Never rule out chaos and stupidity, the devil's favorite combination.
Think about your own job. Sometimes it seems they are intentionally trying to screw you, and sometimes it just seems to be the general chaos created by stupidity and greed.
There is evil behind this, and evil loves to use stupid.
What alarms me is that the flight attendants for the people being sent back to the US from Japan were in full protective gear. That speaks volumes. Also, that video we saw of the crew in San Diego in full protective gear attending the people quarantined there was very telling.
There's something going on that has the people in the know beginning to take better measures for safety, but not fast enough.
Normalcy bias and a desire to not panic the public slows down the leakage of truth. But, for those of us here who tend to be more observant in general, we can see that when flight attendants have to wear full protective gear, something is going on that has somebody really alarmed at higher levels. Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.
gulp.
Absolutely no one within my social circle has even noticed this virus yet. My sons made fun of me about it.
time is not on our side, but time will tell.

The ship is in Japan.

* A total of 1,723 of those people have now been tested, of whom 454 have been found to have the virus.

* Arrangements are still highly uncertain, meaning that passengers could have to stay on board beyond the end of the quarantine.

* Australia, Canada and others also lining up rescue flights, but the UK is still considering its options despite growing frustration from British passengers.

* British passenger David Abel said it 'feels that we have been forgotten' as he urged the UK government to airlift its citizens out of Yokohama.

Last Edited by nutmeg on 02/17/2020 09:27 AM

OP I was also Pissed about the Ebola deal. I'm very worried that this could get out of hand here. We already are looking at cases that have come in just by returning Flights back to the US! Un told numbers of people maybe effected that are now heading into the US that are sick.
I saw a Video of some guy coming from China "Wuhan" to S. Korea escaping the Virus. Just shoot a heat temp measurement at his head AHHH! YOU OK! NEXT! Now this guy is in a country that may go Full out virus, with him infecting who knows how many people due to this POS Hauling ass.

LOL....yet another uninformed "expert". The plane has an actual containment (isolation) chamber in which these people were placed.

Grow up you little Sissy

Only mental midgets go on Cruise's

It's human nature, especially here in the US, to discount anything that goes against your education. The ones making the calls on this stuff were taught standard virology and typical transmission vectors that rightfully fit 99.9% of normal virus behaviors.

They do not have a clue how to handle a bio weapon designed to break all their rules let alone respect it's ability to do just that.

In short, we are screwed already, it's too late.

So what I have taken out of the many reports/vids/articles I've seen....

1. This virus may be contagious up to 94 days. Latest number seen today but I have seen multiple reports on 24 days incubation.

2. People can spread this being asymptomatic, meaning showing no symptoms and looking just fine and dandy.

3. You can be reinfected by this virus. It does not give immunity for the second time as they are stating that the people getting it the second time are dropping dead of heart attacks. And these people were probably asymptomatic or only slightly ill the first time they caught this virus. I say this because they are not stating that these people had already been hospitalized and released. Most of the people are not even being tested and this virus is known for being mild for most of the people it infects.

4. Percentages and numbers. These seem to be all lies or actually false because no one is actually counting because they can not really count all those people. The crematorium vid lady stated that 60% of the bodies she got were from their own homes/residences in the city. Let's say 20% of those were regular deaths because death always happens to people regularly. So that's 40% at home and 40% at hospitals/wards. The cruise ships numbers are better numbers but those are showing that the people with this virus is very, very high compared to what China is saying.

5. They are saying this virus likes a marker that Asians, mainly Oriental Asians have in their DNA. And some people do not have this marker. Mainly Middle Eastern Asians. But only certain percentages of the other populations have this marker the virus wants. Will the virus mutate to other markers along the way? This virus is mutating fast as it's a fast moving disease. There are other races that have gotten sick. How many of them have died? So far, all the rumors, I've seen are these people are Asian. But I don't know and looking around costs money in some places and some places are censored and it's a mess and I'm don't have that info.

6. Interesting stuff I've put together in a conspiracy thing from the articles I've seen... This virus was developed in Israel. It was in the USA, probably being studied or something, and that university lab professor was arrested. This lab professor was arrested because his Chinese student/helper/whatever he was was arrested trying to sneak out vials of bio-stuff in his suitcase. There were two Chinese student/helper/whatever he was in total and one already made it back to China and is still there. Ye. He probably took back this stuff and made it through inspection. It was taken to Wuhan lab. They did not realize how deadly and contagious it was to Oriental Asians, although I hear Japan has a higher percentage of this marker than Chinese do. With the New Year and this total disregard for the safety measures, it escaped.

China tried to hide it and it was ok for a while because a lot of the cases were like the regular season flu. Then people started dying. They were dropping like flies on the streets. Perfectly fine one minute, then drop dead the next. IMO, these were the people that had caught this virus the second or third time. Like most viruses, even man-made ones, the virus wants to live. They are not programmed to kill the host until they are spread on. But I would think, just from looking around and all, that the kill rate they report is way to low. The first time you get it kill rate is probably around 5-10%, and the heart attack, organ failure second time you get the virus is 5-10%. I think it's got around a 15-20% kill rate. That's the kill rate that governments freak on. They don't really freak on under a 5% kill rate. As they are freaking, I think 20% would be about right on this one.

I think that around 5-25% of the total deaths might even be because of lack of medicines they need to stay alive or suicides or some other reason that is not this virus but something went whacko with the supply trains and some people just starved to death.

As China has managed to keep the lights and internet on... I think we can expect them to also keep these things in the USA. I would not panic. Isolation for around 3 months ought to do it. But they are saying that this virus will come back next winter. So one day, they might decide to lock down areas for an entire year to see what happens. But then, these type of things have been known to become weakened over time and kill rates for them come down. But that is in natural viruses. Will a man-made bioweapon follow this route or will it continue to be deadly? If it continues to be deadly, a year shut down might be what is called for. Be prepared. Martial law for a year. It would really suck and change society wouldn't it? Problem, reaction, solution..... Anyway, this is just my theory and thoughts of what I've seen. Anyone seeing different? I would love to hear your thoughts on it.

This is total B.S. There are people that want to believe this fear porn, sad to say.

Maybe undergrads. Any real grad school biologist would be familiar with CRISPR. You need to realize just because you're a brainwashed ignorant asshat that contributes nothing, there are talented Americans out there who might figure this out

Lol wtf just had a fucking trillion word response written and the website blocked it...had nothing offensive in it what-so-ever...was regarding an AC's post about the CDC/military intentionally bringing people in so they can study this on our own soil.

Allrighty then...

We have plenty of cases to study - already here -- and probably quadruple + that we don't know about --- so the doctors and nurses are dying over in China, you want that to happen to our people and to our military? As foolish and incompetent as these alleged experts are acting, and the fact that accidents happen - I just think they are stirring the bee's nest.



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NEWS DISTORTION TO DRAW LESS ATTENTION

Watch the video link in the dailymail of passengers exiting the plane. At night why shoot camera from a huge distance with video so grainy? A camera guy could have shot footage from inside vehicle parked at bottom or plane stairs while in a hazmat suit for extra precaution. Military media could have used a unmanned 4k camera. SENSORED MEDIA. The problem is that everyone around the world would see the workers opening the door in full hazmat suits while the citizens exit only wearing masks. That draws attention to how severe this flu is and would just add one more item to the list to raise worldwide panic.

No, actually they don't, in a possible pandemic situation. Everybody needs to stay exactly where they are right now and we need to close all borders, air and water, until this thing is over.

100% of people on all of these cruise ships will eventually test positive.

These ships were excellent quarantine and research settings.

Evacuating people is insane!

Should have dropped off medical teams from the military along with food/water/supplies.

Globalist money can be spread anywhere to create evil agendas.

When you let billionaires and Communist 'leaders' become self-perceived gods, devoid of morality and imbued with sociopathic tendencies, you create a world such as Earth in 2020 AD.

Their goal is to eliminate their competition.

By ANY means necessary.

How could God not have foreseen this in the creation of mankind???

Last Edited by Grey Eagle on 02/17/2020 03:01 PM

That's how the virus wins. You don't let the virus control you. If you let the virus strip away your basic rights, the virus wins and you're better off dead.

Turning into their commie gestapo state is exactly what the chycoms want and why they made this bioterrorism. Don't let the chycom terrorists win.

Better dead than red.

Last Edited by Weyoun on 02/17/2020 11:13 PM

The U.S. military can't turn a foreign ship in a foreign port into a SCIF. Their evacuation was necessary to secure the research from chycom/japcom spies.

I mean, they could declare war on japan again to occupy the port and secure the ship, but that's a whole other can of worms.

Last Edited by Weyoun on 02/17/2020 11:20 PM

East Tenn. couple not leaving quarantined cruise ship after wife tests positive for coronavirus

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Dr. Arnold and Jeannie Hopland of Elizabethton are not among the Americans leaving the Diamond Princess cruise ship off the coast of Japan today on evacuation flights to the United States.

The reason – Japanese health officials say Mrs. Hopland has tested positive for coronavirus.

Dr. Hopland so far has tested negative, but said he fully intends to stay with his wife.

“I feel fine,” she said. “But I certainly don’t want to get anyone sick so I’m glad I didn’t get around others,” she said from the Hopland’s room on the plaza deck of the cruise ship where they’ve been quarantined for almost 2 weeks.

Around 3:00 Sunday morning, the Hoplands were expecting to be among those leaving to come back to the United States.

Email communications to Americans as recently as Saturday were clear – Americans who tested negative for coronavirus would be allowed on US Government chartered planes for travel back to the United States for an additional two week quarantine. Those who tested positive would not.
What would happen to them has not been communicated, the Hoplands say.

The Elizabethton couple was just about to leave their cabin and go to a bus for a ride to the airport when they were notified of the positive test. Their luggage already had been removed from the room.

FOX is fake news and so is corona propaganda...ALL GARBAGE. Why would you watch that utter horsesh!t?!?

Well, good luck with that!

They have to fly their sick citizens back irregardless, can't keep them in no where land.