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I would like constructive (only) feed back on my theory please.

Okay guys, I've tried to restrain myself on this whole coronavirus thing and I think I've done pretty well, lol. I have, however, been doing a ton of research. Probably more than you'd care to read about. So I'm going to be as brief as possible.

First, let me say that there is no need for panic. most US citizens are not at risk for getting the pathological changes in their lungs that are causing deaths in China.

As a matter of fact, as of yesterday, there were 1,770 deaths from the Coronavirus. All of them, with the exception of FOUR occurred in China. I have done research on the four people that have died and found that ALL OF THEM had connections to Asia.

Why is this important?

Keep in mind that as of today, there are 77,000 people diagnosed with the Coronavirus. 26 different countries have reported cases of the virus. Yet only 4 deaths outside of China?

It's been 7 weeks since China admitted they had a pandemic on their hands, surely we'd be seeing a higher death rate outside of China by now, especially because many think the Coronavirus started at least 1 month prior to China's official announcement.

So here's why I am almost positive based on what we've seen so far, that US citizens have nothing to worry about.

Back when the SARs virus was going around, researchers created a vaccine for it. Unfortunately, they found this (I will not change the wording, I'm leaving it exactly as it was written).

“The researchers created vaccines based on SARS-CoV S and SARS-CoV N by taking the genes coding for those proteins and inserting them into another type of virus particle that acted as a delivery vehicle. They injected mice with these vaccines and then tested whether the mice generated an immune response against the specific SARS proteins, which they did. The next step was to work out whether mice injected with the vaccines would be protected against later infection with SARS-CoV. The researchers found that mice injected with vaccine based on SARS-CoV S were protected against later infection with a standard SARS-CoV strain, both in the short term (eight weeks after vaccination) and the long term (54 weeks after vaccination). However, the vaccine based on SARS-CoV N did not seem to result in protection, and, worryingly, caused pathological changes in the lungs of mice following virus challenge.”

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


Now, fast forward to the Coronavirus....Here is the genome sequencing for the Coronavirus (known as 2019-N CoV)...

[link to www.mdpi.com (secure)]

Do I expect you to read and understand all of this? NO!
What I want you to see is this paragraph:

"2019-nCoV antibodies against the N protein would likely recognize and bind the SARS-CoV N protein as well. N antibodies do not provide immunity to 2019-nCoV infection, but the cross reactivity with SARS-CoV N protein would allow a serum based assay to determine exposure to the novel CoV in asymptomatic cases."

So what does all of this mean?

In layman's terms, a vaccine was made for the SARS virus. Researchers then found that when they reinfected mice with SARS again 54 weeks after vaccination, they saw pathological changes in the lungs of the vaccinated mice.

This same exact protein is is the 2019 -nCoV virus. So, what do you think is going to happen to the people who already had the SARs vaccine and now get re-infected? You're seeing it! They get pnuemonia (and worse) and die! And WHERE do you think the people who got SARs vaccines live? In Asian countries, most in CHINA where SARs originated!

Can you get the coronavirus? YES
You can get any virus.
Will you die from it? Probably not, unless you are already very compromised OR have had the SARs vaccine.

Of course, the powers to be will NEVER admit that a vaccine is actually causing these deaths, but look at the entire picture, so far, my theory is proving to be true. Time will tell.
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Interesting theory.

Thanks for sharing!

hf
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And in China, vaccinations are mandatory. Even the flu shot.

Good theory you have there OP, 5* & green.
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Nice one...refreshing to get a non doom post regarding this thing.
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02/17/2020 11:35 PM
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Man, i hope this is true.
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Interesting!

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How many in china had to get that vaccine?
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This thread needs a pin, here you go:
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But.. but... 5G?

I thought this was a 5G virus combo killer.

I thought 5G would be our scape goat for everything.
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02/17/2020 11:39 PM
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This is basicaly the same theory that has been put forward repeatedly by a couple of posters on the big thread.

The theory falls down for the fact there was no MASS vaccine campaign in China, just a small trial in 2004. Please provid a link to correct me if you are able, to prove that China mass vaccinated for SARS (2019 was possited by a poster) because i can find no evidence online that this is true.
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This may be true, but there's another kind of virus that's been unleashed — an "economic" virus. Once China can't meet the demand of the US and other nation's needs, collapse and panic begins
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How many in china had to get that vaccine?
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This is from Wikipededia, nowhere online or on Wikipedia does it say there was a mass campaign, which there would not be if a vaccine was not available. ;)

As of 2020, there is no cure or protective vaccine for SARS that has been shown to be both safe and effective in humans.[13][14] According to research papers published in 2005 and 2006, the identification and development of novel vaccines and medicines to treat SARS is a priority for governments and public health agencies around the world.[15][16][17] It is reported in early 2004, an early clinical trial on volunteers is planned.[18]

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[link to www.naturalnews.com (secure)]
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whoa1
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And you think PTB had no idea about it...
Now then.... its is not corona virus I worry about.... its who will be blamed for it. Russia already priming its cattle with news reports that USA infected china....
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How many in china had to get that vaccine?
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Probably a thousand Falun Gong. (guestimate) and if i were you i would not ignore my words. poop
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How many in china had to get that vaccine?
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Probably a thousand Falun Gong. (guestimate) and if i were you i would not ignore my words. poop
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Really shilling hard for the People's Republic I see.
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I would like constructive (only) feed back on my theory please.

Okay guys, I've tried to restrain myself on this whole coronavirus thing and I think I've done pretty well, lol. I have, however, been doing a ton of research. Probably more than you'd care to read about. So I'm going to be as brief as possible.

First, let me say that there is no need for panic. most US citizens are not at risk for getting the pathological changes in their lungs that are causing deaths in China.

As a matter of fact, as of yesterday, there were 1,770 deaths from the Coronavirus. All of them, with the exception of FOUR occurred in China. I have done research on the four people that have died and found that ALL OF THEM had connections to Asia.

Why is this important?

Keep in mind that as of today, there are 77,000 people diagnosed with the Coronavirus. 26 different countries have reported cases of the virus. Yet only 4 deaths outside of China?

It's been 7 weeks since China admitted they had a pandemic on their hands, surely we'd be seeing a higher death rate outside of China by now, especially because many think the Coronavirus started at least 1 month prior to China's official announcement.

So here's why I am almost positive based on what we've seen so far, that US citizens have nothing to worry about.

Back when the SARs virus was going around, researchers created a vaccine for it. Unfortunately, they found this (I will not change the wording, I'm leaving it exactly as it was written).

“The researchers created vaccines based on SARS-CoV S and SARS-CoV N by taking the genes coding for those proteins and inserting them into another type of virus particle that acted as a delivery vehicle. They injected mice with these vaccines and then tested whether the mice generated an immune response against the specific SARS proteins, which they did. The next step was to work out whether mice injected with the vaccines would be protected against later infection with SARS-CoV. The researchers found that mice injected with vaccine based on SARS-CoV S were protected against later infection with a standard SARS-CoV strain, both in the short term (eight weeks after vaccination) and the long term (54 weeks after vaccination). However, the vaccine based on SARS-CoV N did not seem to result in protection, and, worryingly, caused pathological changes in the lungs of mice following virus challenge.”

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


Now, fast forward to the Coronavirus....Here is the genome sequencing for the Coronavirus (known as 2019-N CoV)...

[link to www.mdpi.com (secure)]

Do I expect you to read and understand all of this? NO!
What I want you to see is this paragraph:

"2019-nCoV antibodies against the N protein would likely recognize and bind the SARS-CoV N protein as well. N antibodies do not provide immunity to 2019-nCoV infection, but the cross reactivity with SARS-CoV N protein would allow a serum based assay to determine exposure to the novel CoV in asymptomatic cases."

So what does all of this mean?

In layman's terms, a vaccine was made for the SARS virus. Researchers then found that when they reinfected mice with SARS again 54 weeks after vaccination, they saw pathological changes in the lungs of the vaccinated mice.

This same exact protein is is the 2019 -nCoV virus. So, what do you think is going to happen to the people who already had the SARs vaccine and now get re-infected? You're seeing it! They get pnuemonia (and worse) and die! And WHERE do you think the people who got SARs vaccines live? In Asian countries, most in CHINA where SARs originated!

Can you get the coronavirus? YES
You can get any virus.
Will you die from it? Probably not, unless you are already very compromised OR have had the SARs vaccine.

Of course, the powers to be will NEVER admit that a vaccine is actually causing these deaths, but look at the entire picture, so far, my theory is proving to be true. Time will tell.
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On a scale from 1-10, how would you rate the probability of your theory?

Would you reject a CDC/WHO vaccine based on their assurances of probable positive outcome?

Would you volunteer for any vaccine for any disease or virus; pandemic or not?
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How many in china had to get that vaccine?
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Probably a thousand Falun Gong. (guestimate) and if i were you i would not ignore my words. poop
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven


Really shilling hard for the People's Republic I see.
 Quoting: Sikhed


Shill? You a newbie then? Thought what i said would get me arrested in China.
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I've thought this as well.
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I've thought this as well.
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What, that a mass vaccination campaign for SARS is responsible for the deaths?
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I remember not long after the SARS virus scare I was passing through Chicago O'hare airport and the SARS vaccine pharmaceutical company had tables set up giving away FREE vaccine shots...I now wonder if it was all part of this grand scheme.

I feel sorry for people who fall for Big Pharma's manufacturered virus scare to sell these worthless,evil vaccines.
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How many in china had to get that vaccine?
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Probably a thousand Falun Gong. (guestimate) and if i were you i would not ignore my words. poop
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven


Really shilling hard for the People's Republic I see.
 Quoting: Sikhed


You karmad me this? "What a fucking loser you are."
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There are 15 MILLION+ Infected in China, and already more than 3.62 MILLION dead.

The numbers' you';re using are complete bullshit.

Why do you think China has locked down 760 MILLION people in more than 70 cities?

For a couple thousand dead? No. At least 3.62 Million dead.
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This is the most sensible theory I’ve read so far. It explains why it’s hitting the Chinese so hard and not other countries.

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How many in china had to get that vaccine?
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Probably a thousand Falun Gong. (guestimate) and if i were you i would not ignore my words. poop
 Quoting: The Lathe Of Heaven


Really shilling hard for the People's Republic I see.
 Quoting: Sikhed


You karmad me this? "What a fucking loser you are."
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For stating my honest opinion? propoganda
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Five stars and green!! Thank you for your research and posting! So nice to see a rational, non-panicked post about this virus!
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