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Forbidden Technology: Free Energy

 
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we know TPTB have free energy technology and they won’t let us have because have it because of the trillions $ they make every year.

Watch this



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as I’m into hobby electronics, I will try and build the one device (video above), and share my thoughts on it in this thread, and will answer any questions if I can.
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im obviously using an Indonesia IP because if this device works, i prefer to stay anonymous
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ok, but how you will solve growing population?
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ok, but how you will solve growing population?
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i think the coronavirus might do that wtf
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definitely worth watching this



greer talks about tesla using an antenna in a car to replace the battery
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so i've been digging around into tesla free energy, here's part of his patent


To all whom it may concern:
Be it known that I, Nikola Tesla, a citizen of the Unites States, residing at the borough of Manhattan, in the city, county and State of New York, have invented certain new and useful improvements in Apparatus for the Utilisation of Radiant Energy, of which the following is a specification, reference being had to the drawings accompanying and forming a part of the same.

It is well known that certain radiations - such as those of ultra-violet light, cathodic, Roentgen rays, or the like - possess the property of charging and discharging conductors of electricity, the discharge being particularly noticeable when the conductor upon which the rays impinge is negatively electrified. These radiations are generally considered to be ether vibrations of extremely small wave lengths, and in explanation of the phenomena noted, it has been assumed by some authorities that they ionise, or render conducting, the atmosphere through which they are propagated. However, my own experiments and observations lead me to conclusions more in accord with the theory heretofore advanced by me that sources of such radiant energy throw off with great velocity, minute particles of matter which are strongly electrified, and therefore capable of charging an electrical conductor, or, even if not so, may at any rate discharge an electrified conductor, either by bodily carrying off its charge or otherwise.

My present application is based upon a discovery which I have made that when rays or radiations of the above kind are permitted to fall upon an insulated conducting-body connected to one of the terminals of a capacitor, while the other terminal of the capacitor is made to receive or carry away electricity, a current flows into the capacitor so long as the insulated body is exposed to the rays, and under the conditions specified below, an indefinite accumulation of electrical energy in the capacitor takes place. After a suitable time interval during which the rays are allowed to act, this energy may manifest itself in a powerful discharge, which may be used for the operation or control of mechanical or electrical devices, or rendered useful in many other ways.

In applying my discovery, I provide a capacitor, preferably of considerable electrostatic capacity, and connect one of its terminals to an insulated metal plate or other conducting-body exposed to the rays or streams of radiant matter. It is very important, particularly in view of the fact that electrical energy is generally supplied to the capacitor at a very slow rate, to construct the capacitor with the greatest care. I prefer to use the best quality of mica as the dielectric, taking every possible precaution in insulating the armatures, so that the instrument may withstand great electrical pressures without leaking and may leave no perceptible electrification when discharging instantaneously. In practice, I have found that the best results are obtained with capacitors treated in the manner described in Patent 577,671 granted to me on 23rd February 1897. Obviously, the above precautions should be the more rigorously observed the slower the rate of charging and the smaller the time interval during which the energy is allowed to accumulate in the capacitor. The insulated plate or conducting-body should present to the rays or streams of matter, as large a surface as is practical, I having ascertained that the amount of energy conveyed to it per unit of time is, under otherwise identical conditions, proportional to the area exposed, or nearly so. Furthermore, the surface should be clean and preferably highly polished or amalgamated. The second terminal or armature of the capacitor may be connected to one of the poles of a battery or other source of electricity, or to any conducting body or object whatever of such properties or so conditioned that by its means, electricity of the required sign will be supplied to the terminal. A simple way of supplying positive or negative electricity to the terminal is to connect it to an insulated conductor supported at some height in the atmosphere, or to a grounded conductor, the former, as is well known, furnishing positive, and the latter negative electricity. As the rays or supposed streams of matter generally convey a positive charge to the first terminal of the capacitor mentioned above. I usually connect the second terminal of the capacitor to the ground, this being the most convenient way of obtaining negative electricity, dispensing with the necessity of providing an artificial source. In order to use the energy collected in the capacitor for any useful purpose, I also connect to the capacitor terminals, a circuit containing an instrument or apparatus which it is desired to operate, and another instrument or device for alternately closing and opening the circuit. This latter device can be any form of circuit-controller with fixed or moveable parts or electrodes, which may be actuated either by the stored energy or by independent means.

My discovery will be more fully understood from the following description and drawings, where Fig.1 is a diagram showing the general arrangement of the apparatus as usually employed.
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Ugh

So the tesla antennae don’t work as free energy systems

Although the voltage rises as you increase altitude, current does not. If current does not, then resistance increases. There are not many conductive electrons in the air to move around, and the energy density is much much less than that of copper. You can extract the electrons but the effect is localized and you could effectively draw too much power to quickly and create a low pocket
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Ugh

So the tesla antennae don’t work as free energy systems

Although the voltage rises as you increase altitude, current does not. If current does not, then resistance increases. There are not many conductive electrons in the air to move around, and the energy density is much much less than that of copper. You can extract the electrons but the effect is localized and you could effectively draw too much power to quickly and create a low pocket
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after watching the video a few days ago and then digging around before i started this project, both moray and tesla used simple antennas
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if you watch this video, OP, tesla and moray used some form of antenna. now, moray and tesla date back decades, so i'm pretty sure it was simple

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02/18/2020 09:48 AM
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Yes, this is not new technology. It's nuisance technology, according to big business.
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im obviously using an Indonesia IP because if this device works, i prefer to stay anonymous
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You can feel safe then. It doesn't work.
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im obviously using an Indonesia IP because if this device works, i prefer to stay anonymous
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Kool let us know how it works.
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im obviously using an Indonesia IP because if this device works, i prefer to stay anonymous
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You can feel safe then. It doesn't work.
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lol

It works, when you work it.

Such is Life.
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here's a video that attempts to reproduce tesla's free energy with an antenna and ground, note the voltage increase

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02/18/2020 10:06 AM

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Let us know your results in replicating the project, OP.

Looking forward to it.
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here's a video that shows that the antenna and ground were able to charge the caps over a period of time to up to 20 volts

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this video shows that an antenna and ground are able to produce a voltage. this is the basis for OP's, moray's and tesla's free energy research.

So, far so GOOD!

here's a video that attempts to reproduce tesla's free energy with an antenna and ground, note the voltage increase


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now let me dig into the antenna potentially used by tesla and moray, I'm pretty sure they were very simple
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for this video, a stake was knocked into the ground and wire attached to it
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

ground/earth “I've also used a metal stake in the ground (works best if the soil is wet).”: [link to cdn.instructables.com (secure)]


regarding Tesla, the earth connection used here is a 12 mm copper pipe 3 metres long, driven into the ground and the ground around it saturated with water:
[link to www.free-energy-info.com]

can’t find much on the earth/ground used by moray, but I suspect it’s similar


I'm getting a 3 meter copper pipe and will drive into the ground and use that as an earth


now looking into the antenna
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for this video, a stake was knocked into the ground and wire attached to it
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

ground/earth “I've also used a metal stake in the ground (works best if the soil is wet).”: [link to cdn.instructables.com (secure)]


regarding Tesla, the earth connection used here is a 12 mm copper pipe 3 metres long, driven into the ground and the ground around it saturated with water:
[link to www.free-energy-info.com]

can’t find much on the earth/ground used by moray, but I suspect it’s similar


I'm getting a 3 meter copper pipe and will drive into the ground and use that as an earth


now looking into the antenna
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ok i found this on moray's earth/ground

"The ground pipe was of half-inch water pipe consisting of two sections. The lower section was pointed at the end to make its driving into the creek bed easy. It was about 6 feet long and after being driven down about 5 feet the second section, which was about 4 feet long, was screwed on with a wrench and the pipe driven further down until it struck a hard object, so about 7 feet of pipe was in the ground."


i think a suitable earth is a copper pipe which goes into the ground about 3 or 4 feet. the soil around the copper pipe needs to be wet.
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The guy in the video used this antenna on his roof
[link to cdn.instructables.com (secure)]

Moray used a long wire as an antenna, over 80 feet stretched horizontally

Tesla used a square receiver.

So I’ll use a long wire as an antenna, probably hook it up to the tree in the garden
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boss

"The sea of energy in which the Earth floats"

[link to free-energy-info.com (secure)]

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the wire i'm using for the antenna and connect to the earth is 100m Magnet Wire Enameled Copper Wire Class 20AWG

im sure the 20AWG can be varied a bit, 18 or 24, etc

I'll need a lot, you can get it ebay, a local electronics shop sells it

[link to www.ebay.com (secure)]
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as I said i'm running my antenna wire through a local tree to get height and distance, bit like this dagram

[link to www.peeblesoriginals.com]
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Ugh

So the tesla antennae don’t work as free energy systems

Although the voltage rises as you increase altitude, current does not. If current does not, then resistance increases. There are not many conductive electrons in the air to move around, and the energy density is much much less than that of copper. You can extract the electrons but the effect is localized and you could effectively draw too much power to quickly and create a low pocket
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610


after watching the video a few days ago and then digging around before i started this project, both moray and tesla used simple antennas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78493100


Ugh

So the tesla antennae don’t work as free energy systems

Although the voltage rises as you increase altitude, current does not. If current does not, then resistance increases. There are not many conductive electrons in the air to move around, and the energy density is much much less than that of copper. You can extract the electrons but the effect is localized and you could effectively draw too much power to quickly and create a low pocket
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610


after watching the video a few days ago and then digging around before i started this project, both moray and tesla used simple antennas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78493100


You should look up the findings of the Colorado Springs experiments and why he let wardencliffe go down. He was lighting lightbulbs at a distance, but all the high draw experiments required motors to power. The fact you can touch a large tower that’s under millions of volts is bec there’s not enough current to electrocute you, nonetheless power high draw systems.

Trust me, if there was anything REALLY legitimate about the free energy aspect, you wouldn’t know anything about it.

Hit the wayback engine if you want to find true FE sources.
Super Light
QED cavitation resonators
Stepped hydrolysis
Nitinol

You can get “free energy” out of the air for sure, but the air can only hold so many electrons. The analysis I would make here, is two gifted lotto tickets. One wins a buck, and one wins a million. It’s both free to you, but one “free” is much more so than the other
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Ugh

So the tesla antennae don’t work as free energy systems

Although the voltage rises as you increase altitude, current does not. If current does not, then resistance increases. There are not many conductive electrons in the air to move around, and the energy density is much much less than that of copper. You can extract the electrons but the effect is localized and you could effectively draw too much power to quickly and create a low pocket
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610


after watching the video a few days ago and then digging around before i started this project, both moray and tesla used simple antennas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78493100


Ugh

So the tesla antennae don’t work as free energy systems

Although the voltage rises as you increase altitude, current does not. If current does not, then resistance increases. There are not many conductive electrons in the air to move around, and the energy density is much much less than that of copper. You can extract the electrons but the effect is localized and you could effectively draw too much power to quickly and create a low pocket
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610


after watching the video a few days ago and then digging around before i started this project, both moray and tesla used simple antennas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78493100


You should look up the findings of the Colorado Springs experiments and why he let wardencliffe go down. He was lighting lightbulbs at a distance, but all the high draw experiments required motors to power. The fact you can touch a large tower that’s under millions of volts is bec there’s not enough current to electrocute you, nonetheless power high draw systems.

Trust me, if there was anything REALLY legitimate about the free energy aspect, you wouldn’t know anything about it.

Hit the wayback engine if you want to find true FE sources.
Super Light
QED cavitation resonators
Stepped hydrolysis
Nitinol

You can get “free energy” out of the air for sure, but the air can only hold so many electrons. The analysis I would make here, is two gifted lotto tickets. One wins a buck, and one wins a million. It’s both free to you, but one “free” is much more so than the other
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Moray was able to draw 1000s of watts with his device and I'd imagine similar with tesla. Tesla had a patent for free energy. I think you're saying he was mistaken? And moray too?

well, no disrespect, but I trust tesla and moray's opinion over yours.

tomorrow, I start building the antenna and earth
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Ugh

So the tesla antennae don’t work as free energy systems

Although the voltage rises as you increase altitude, current does not. If current does not, then resistance increases. There are not many conductive electrons in the air to move around, and the energy density is much much less than that of copper. You can extract the electrons but the effect is localized and you could effectively draw too much power to quickly and create a low pocket
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610


after watching the video a few days ago and then digging around before i started this project, both moray and tesla used simple antennas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78493100


Ugh

So the tesla antennae don’t work as free energy systems

Although the voltage rises as you increase altitude, current does not. If current does not, then resistance increases. There are not many conductive electrons in the air to move around, and the energy density is much much less than that of copper. You can extract the electrons but the effect is localized and you could effectively draw too much power to quickly and create a low pocket
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610


after watching the video a few days ago and then digging around before i started this project, both moray and tesla used simple antennas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78493100


You should look up the findings of the Colorado Springs experiments and why he let wardencliffe go down. He was lighting lightbulbs at a distance, but all the high draw experiments required motors to power. The fact you can touch a large tower that’s under millions of volts is bec there’s not enough current to electrocute you, nonetheless power high draw systems.

Trust me, if there was anything REALLY legitimate about the free energy aspect, you wouldn’t know anything about it.

Hit the wayback engine if you want to find true FE sources.
Super Light
QED cavitation resonators
Stepped hydrolysis
Nitinol

You can get “free energy” out of the air for sure, but the air can only hold so many electrons. The analysis I would make here, is two gifted lotto tickets. One wins a buck, and one wins a million. It’s both free to you, but one “free” is much more so than the other
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Moray was able to draw 1000s of watts with his device and I'd imagine similar with tesla. Tesla had a patent for free energy. I think you're saying he was mistaken? And moray too?

well, no disrespect, but I trust tesla and moray's opinion over yours.

tomorrow, I start building the antenna and earth
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LOL! I would love to see that.

Spoiler: It ends in OP furstrated, saying he did something wrong because of some detail that is kep secret by some imaginary group.
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B0Xwinep0st

there's lots of "free energy" in a box of box wine

even comes with a tap to "tap into it"

no need for wires

what are you waiting for?
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we know TPTB have free energy technology and they won’t let us have because have it because of the trillions $ they make every year.

Watch this



Now watch this



as I’m into hobby electronics, I will try and build the one device (video above), and share my thoughts on it in this thread, and will answer any questions if I can.
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Wishing you luck OP

Post us some pictures when your done.

bump for later
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after watching the video a few days ago and then digging around before i started this project, both moray and tesla used simple antennas
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after watching the video a few days ago and then digging around before i started this project, both moray and tesla used simple antennas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78493100


You should look up the findings of the Colorado Springs experiments and why he let wardencliffe go down. He was lighting lightbulbs at a distance, but all the high draw experiments required motors to power. The fact you can touch a large tower that’s under millions of volts is bec there’s not enough current to electrocute you, nonetheless power high draw systems.

Trust me, if there was anything REALLY legitimate about the free energy aspect, you wouldn’t know anything about it.

Hit the wayback engine if you want to find true FE sources.
Super Light
QED cavitation resonators
Stepped hydrolysis
Nitinol

You can get “free energy” out of the air for sure, but the air can only hold so many electrons. The analysis I would make here, is two gifted lotto tickets. One wins a buck, and one wins a million. It’s both free to you, but one “free” is much more so than the other
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72810610


Moray was able to draw 1000s of watts with his device and I'd imagine similar with tesla. Tesla had a patent for free energy. I think you're saying he was mistaken? And moray too?

well, no disrespect, but I trust tesla and moray's opinion over yours.

tomorrow, I start building the antenna and earth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78493100


LOL! I would love to see that.

Spoiler: It ends in OP furstrated, saying he did something wrong because of some detail that is kep secret by some imaginary group.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


I was merely trying to stop OP from wasting his time, and look into legitimate sources of FE, if one is brave enough.

Physics and engineering has changed a lot in a 1000 years. The discarding of certain info makes me think you have a strong background in neither.

You say morey had generated 1000s of watts... like I said that is an insignificant amount of energy. A lightbulb is typically 40 kWh, which is 40,000 watt hours. It costs 40,000 watts to run a LIGHTBULB for an hour. The scale that one would have to build a device that would power anything for an extended amount of time is beyond comprehension. You would need the wardencliffe tower (size appropriate) to power one modern refrigerator. You would literally need a billion of those towers dotted across the country to power the US, but that goes back to my argument earlier. There are only so many electrons available in the sky to extract... you would easily cap out local densities very quickly.

Look, I’m not trying to shit on you in any sense. I’m currently on route to a Phd in applied physics. At the beginning of my career, I spent a large amount of time trying to build/figure out free energy systems. Most of that time was wasted, but it did lead me to several true options as I listed earlier. I have seen many research projects get stomped out and hidden from the public, free energy and cancer cures are the two that stick out the most. In the current climate, a true free energy device would most likely get you killed or discredited at best. I will save my true intentions, but it is partly the reason I have stayed purely in academia. It gives you a buffer, especially if you have a big lab behind your research. That would be the only obtainable way of putting free energy out there without risk of repercussion. I am under an nda anyways so I will leave it at that, but trust me.... many have tried and died for this. Do not make a mockery of their lives and sacrifices for a somewhat uninformed venture..
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Tesla and the Tunguska event.

PRETTY SURE he could produce enough energy...





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