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People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?

 
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Jesus said, "ye are gods". I believe him.
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If you went to Psalm 82, the source of Jesus alleged quote, you would see that us being 'gods' is in relation to us being able to pass judgement just like G-d on good and evil. But the Psalm also relays that we shall die as mortals and then the psalmist goes on to request the G-d, the true judge, come to judge the Nations as they are his.
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There is only one God.
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You know this as a fact, how?

Is your god the genocidal Yahweh or some other invisible absentee god?

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People want to be their own gods

Just as long as they don't have to relinquish their ego desires and appetites to do so.
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Why would they have to? Why would they want to?

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If they do it right, it is the intended goal of the place.
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Define God.
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The uncaused cause that relies on nothing else for it's existence, but all others rely on it.
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I like that since it means the first cause no longer exists and that god can no longer effect us or punish us. It no longer exists.

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Not sure how you came to the conclusion based on the definition provided, but I'd be happy to read your thought process!
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The first cause of the universe is the Big Bang.

Everything that was before that first cause, can never be known. It no longer exists. It has evolved.

That is why both science an religions both admit to having gods of the gaps. Both are at the end of what can be known.

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People want to be their own gods

Just as long as they don't have to relinquish their ego desires and appetites to do so.
 Quoting: The Semi Shut In


Why would they have to? Why would they want to?

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Because that is the key to the door to the experience of infinite bliss it has to do with slaying the reptilian part of the brain.

God is Love.
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Jesus said, "ye are gods". I believe him.
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If you went to Psalm 82, the source of Jesus alleged quote, you would see that us being 'gods' is in relation to us being able to pass judgement just like G-d on good and evil. But the Psalm also relays that we shall die as mortals and then the psalmist goes on to request the G-d, the true judge, come to judge the Nations as they are his.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


A true judge who never enters a courtroom, is not to be trusted, especially if he is known for using genocide and infanticide and punishing the innocent instead of the guilty.

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Good and evil have to exist or you wouldn't have a reality to live in.

Learn to balance them, and you will never have to wonder about life.
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The uncaused cause that relies on nothing else for it's existence, but all others rely on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


I like that since it means the first cause no longer exists and that god can no longer effect us or punish us. It no longer exists.

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


Not sure how you came to the conclusion based on the definition provided, but I'd be happy to read your thought process!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


The first cause of the universe is the Big Bang.

Everything that was before that first cause, can never be known. It no longer exists. It has evolved.

That is why both science an religions both admit to having gods of the gaps. Both are at the end of what can be known.

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


Interesting thoughts, albeit unprovable as most philosophy and/or theology are.

An alternative being that the 'Big Bang', which is only a theory, was the act that G-d used to create the material world. The world that he still functions both within and without on a continual basis.
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If they do it right, it is the intended goal of the place.
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Perhaps the world is as it is because those who should be seeking that goal, the religious, are just a bunch of idol worshiping dolts who have let lying preachers control their thinking.

That is why the mainstream religions are homophobic and misogynous and follow a genocidal god.

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Jesus said, "ye are gods". I believe him.
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If you went to Psalm 82, the source of Jesus alleged quote, you would see that us being 'gods' is in relation to us being able to pass judgement just like G-d on good and evil. But the Psalm also relays that we shall die as mortals and then the psalmist goes on to request the G-d, the true judge, come to judge the Nations as they are his.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


A true judge who never enters a courtroom, is not to be trusted, especially if he is known for using genocide and infanticide and punishing the innocent instead of the guilty.

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


G-d is the courtroom. He enter both before and after Mt. Sinai, but most prominently then while 600,000 J-ws (men between the ages of 20 & 65, not including women and children)stood before G-d and heard light and saw sound!
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People want to be their own gods

Just as long as they don't have to relinquish their ego desires and appetites to do so.
 Quoting: The Semi Shut In


Sure. Why not? The path of a god should almost certainly lead through the dark netherworlds of the human mind. Weaknesses and failures should be expected and are GOOD, so long as one has open eyes and ears to learn from them. Even at the moment of death, when we may gnash teeth and struggle to keep going, we are walking the path of a god. Jesus showed us how to do it.
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Re: People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?
the 2nd coming is YOU realizing you can ALL become christ-like and unlock the christ consciousness(buddha consciousness, 5th dimension, etc)... christos means oil in greek .. its a cerebral spinal fluid that you must rise up your 33 vertabrae (jesus lived 33 years) by doing kundalini meditation when the moon is in your sun sign.. abstaining from all sex/masturbation, acidic foods and being in pure thoughts.. nobody is coming to save you, you must save yourself.. this is the secret of all secrets, the holy grail, fountain of youth.. how you can live hundreds/thousands of years if not forever .. and unlock 100% of the mind with both hemispheres of the brain working together.. all new blood unleashes into the body curing ailments .. and when the oil hits the pineal and pituitary glands flowing "milk and honey" is released... dmt and serotonin .. so you will always be happy and feeling loving if you do this properly every month. Stop wasting your sexual energy on sex and masturbation when this is the ultimate sexual alchemy where you unite the divine masculine with the divine feminene..

Matthew 6:22 - The light of the body is the eye: if. therefore thine eye be single, thy. whole body shall be full of light. THE PINEAL GLAND IS THE FATHER.

The Bible is a manual about physiological regeneration and astrology, written in code (SEE Gematria), providing us a path to enlightenment (atonement). 99% of the people believe the Bible is a historical book to be taken literally. It’s not, it’s about you and YOUR path to enlightenment. You are the Protagonist. No one’s coming to save you. All of these parables were written about and for you.


[link to universaltruthschool.com (secure)]

INTERNAL SALVATION – CHRIST SEED – OIL OF WISE VIRGINS

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This oil, if not wasted, illumines the body – the lamp. It is the oil that gives consciousness, and thus light. When it’s dried up, people die. When people are ageing, it means that oil is being produced in lesser amount until it’s not produced at all, and then death comes.

When plenty of oil circulates in the body:

The mood is stable and there is no irritability, fear or nervousness.
Digestion and assimilation are perfect.
Hearing and eyesight are good.
Teeth don’t decay.
A person is able to get good sleep.
A person doesn’t require any medical drug.
There’s no need of much food.
There’s no desire for stimulants of any sort.
Poisons are neutralized, the body itself fights cancerous cells and other diseases.
A person doesn’t want to abuse himself in any way.
The body completely heals from earlier self-abuse.
There is immunity from colds and probably other infectious diseases.
Youthful vigor is present and the frailties of old age are absent.
Vitality feels unlimited.
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Re: People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?
If they do it right, it is the intended goal of the place.
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Perhaps the world is as it is because those who should be seeking that goal, the religious, are just a bunch of idol worshiping dolts who have let lying preachers control their thinking.

That is why the mainstream religions are homophobic and misogynous and follow a genocidal god.

Regards
DL
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You are a very wise person.

Everything you say is true in my opinion.
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Re: People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?
Morals are also relative to the being. This would be part of culture and culture is learned and created. Just another thing that only keeps you going with the crowd and in not doing things for your self. Example
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People want to be their own gods

Just as long as they don't have to relinquish their ego desires and appetites to do so.
 Quoting: The Semi Shut In


Why would they have to? Why would they want to?

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DL
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Because that is the key to the door to the experience of infinite bliss it has to do with slaying the reptilian part of the brain.

God is Love.
 Quoting: The Semi Shut In


How do you see love in a genocidal and infanticidal god?

Never mind. I don't know where you got your moral sense, but I agree, you should be listening to someone who is not in your religion. It has corrupted your moral sense.

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DL
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So, any of you gods able to stand on your own two feet?
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Kneeling is so very much more comfortable.

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Re: People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?
Jesus said, "ye are gods". I believe him.
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If you went to Psalm 82, the source of Jesus alleged quote, you would see that us being 'gods' is in relation to us being able to pass judgement just like G-d on good and evil. But the Psalm also relays that we shall die as mortals and then the psalmist goes on to request the G-d, the true judge, come to judge the Nations as they are his.
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Jesus died too. Why should we expect anything different?
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So, any of you gods able to stand on your own two feet?
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Kneeling is so very much more comfortable.

chuckle
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Fair enough.

As I said, pick up your Crown or get on your knees for them who do.
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Re: People want to be their own gods. Is that good or evil?
Good and evil have to exist or you wouldn't have a reality to live in.

Learn to balance them, and you will never have to wonder about life.
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I agree with your first.

Do you see good and evil in balance in people?

I do not. I see a lot more good in the world than evil.

In fact, we are so good to each other that scientists are unable to explain why we are so nice.

Those are world stats and not just Canadian.

"Learn to balance them,"

No thanks. I don't think you meant that.

When you have an overload of good deeds, I doubt that you will do evil just to balance things out.

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Jesus said, "ye are gods". I believe him.
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If you went to Psalm 82, the source of Jesus alleged quote, you would see that us being 'gods' is in relation to us being able to pass judgement just like G-d on good and evil. But the Psalm also relays that we shall die as mortals and then the psalmist goes on to request the G-d, the true judge, come to judge the Nations as they are his.
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Jesus died too. Why should we expect anything different?
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Not sure what you're getting other than that we, including Jesus, are mortals ...
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People want to be their own gods

Just as long as they don't have to relinquish their ego desires and appetites to do so.
 Quoting: The Semi Shut In


Why would they have to? Why would they want to?

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


Because that is the key to the door to the experience of infinite bliss it has to do with slaying the reptilian part of the brain.

God is Love.
 Quoting: The Semi Shut In


How do you see love in a genocidal and infanticidal god?

Never mind. I don't know where you got your moral sense, but I agree, you should be listening to someone who is not in your religion. It has corrupted your moral sense.

Regards
DL
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First of all you assume I have a particular religion. Secondly, you totally ignored my first statement and had no curiosity as to how I would know such a thing.
Therefore you are not worth my time as you live in White Heat and mistake that for enlightenment.

Ta-Ta.

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I like that since it means the first cause no longer exists and that god can no longer effect us or punish us. It no longer exists.

Regards
DL
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Not sure how you came to the conclusion based on the definition provided, but I'd be happy to read your thought process!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


The first cause of the universe is the Big Bang.

Everything that was before that first cause, can never be known. It no longer exists. It has evolved.

That is why both science an religions both admit to having gods of the gaps. Both are at the end of what can be known.

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


Interesting thoughts, albeit unprovable as most philosophy and/or theology are.

An alternative being that the 'Big Bang', which is only a theory, was the act that G-d used to create the material world. The world that he still functions both within and without on a continual basis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


You should look up the word theory. A scientist would laugh at you.

Why would you think that the supernatural might overlay reality?

You see god continually doing something with volition, do you?

That would screw up our free will would it not?

And if god just gave us the new virus going around, or allowed it, he isn't much of a god and your "theory" fails.
While the Big Bang gets a pass.

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DL
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Jesus said, "ye are gods". I believe him.
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If you went to Psalm 82, the source of Jesus alleged quote, you would see that us being 'gods' is in relation to us being able to pass judgement just like G-d on good and evil. But the Psalm also relays that we shall die as mortals and then the psalmist goes on to request the G-d, the true judge, come to judge the Nations as they are his.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


A true judge who never enters a courtroom, is not to be trusted, especially if he is known for using genocide and infanticide and punishing the innocent instead of the guilty.

Regards
DL
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G-d is the courtroom. He enter both before and after Mt. Sinai, but most prominently then while 600,000 J-ws (men between the ages of 20 & 65, not including women and children)stood before G-d and heard light and saw sound!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


You are still trusting a genocidal god whose first judgement was to demand a bribe/sacrifice.

If you would vote for such a satanic genocidal judge, you are insane, morally stupid.

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People want to be their own gods

Just as long as they don't have to relinquish their ego desires and appetites to do so.
 Quoting: The Semi Shut In


Sure. Why not? The path of a god should almost certainly lead through the dark netherworlds of the human mind. Weaknesses and failures should be expected and are GOOD, so long as one has open eyes and ears to learn from them. Even at the moment of death, when we may gnash teeth and struggle to keep going, we are walking the path of a god. Jesus showed us how to do it.
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+ 1

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If they do it right, it is the intended goal of the place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78502051


Perhaps the world is as it is because those who should be seeking that goal, the religious, are just a bunch of idol worshiping dolts who have let lying preachers control their thinking.

That is why the mainstream religions are homophobic and misogynous and follow a genocidal god.

Regards
DL
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You are a very wise person.

Everything you say is true in my opinion.
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Made me blush. But tell all your friends ;-)

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DL
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Not sure how you came to the conclusion based on the definition provided, but I'd be happy to read your thought process!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


The first cause of the universe is the Big Bang.

Everything that was before that first cause, can never be known. It no longer exists. It has evolved.

That is why both science an religions both admit to having gods of the gaps. Both are at the end of what can be known.

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


Interesting thoughts, albeit unprovable as most philosophy and/or theology are.

An alternative being that the 'Big Bang', which is only a theory, was the act that G-d used to create the material world. The world that he still functions both within and without on a continual basis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


You should look up the word theory. A scientist would laugh at you.

Why would you think that the supernatural might overlay reality?

You see god continually doing something with volition, do you?

That would screw up our free will would it not?

And if god just gave us the new virus going around, or allowed it, he isn't much of a god and your "theory" fails.
While the Big Bang gets a pass.

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


I know what the word means and most science is theory and not put into practice because they can't. Anyone can come up with a math formula to 'prove' something.

You should look into how incestuous the peer 'review' process is. You should also look into how 50%+ of all 'science' that is published isn't replicable even by the person who made the 'discovery'.

I work at a large university reading 'science' all day long ... if you knew some of these men that you put your faith in you might not be questioning G-d so much.

G-d isn't provable in our current state, that's what faith is. Lots of people experience 'synchronicities' that don't fit within normal human pattern finding.

People have been dying of disease since the beinging of time from a diverse array of reasons (virii included) and G-d's way are above our ways; you don't know the full extent of anyone's past and why they might be dying. Everyone, good or bad, dies.
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Morals are also relative to the being. This would be part of culture and culture is learned and created. Just another thing that only keeps you going with the crowd and in not doing things for your self. Example
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 61940211


Speaking of learned responses.

I have noted that statistically, the less religion a country has, the more peaceful and law abiding it is.

The religious should learn the way atheists learn, as it seems to make for a more moral and peaceful life style.

Being a Gnostic Christian, this does not serve me well either, but if it means more peace and harmony in a society, I would vote to go into more laïcité, France and Quebec style.

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So, any of you gods able to stand on your own two feet?
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Kneeling is so very much more comfortable.

chuckle
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Now now. Grovelers have to grovel.

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If you went to Psalm 82, the source of Jesus alleged quote, you would see that us being 'gods' is in relation to us being able to pass judgement just like G-d on good and evil. But the Psalm also relays that we shall die as mortals and then the psalmist goes on to request the G-d, the true judge, come to judge the Nations as they are his.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


A true judge who never enters a courtroom, is not to be trusted, especially if he is known for using genocide and infanticide and punishing the innocent instead of the guilty.

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


G-d is the courtroom. He enter both before and after Mt. Sinai, but most prominently then while 600,000 J-ws (men between the ages of 20 & 65, not including women and children)stood before G-d and heard light and saw sound!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29605035


You are still trusting a genocidal god whose first judgement was to demand a bribe/sacrifice.

If you would vote for such a satanic genocidal judge, you are insane, morally stupid.

Regards
DL
 Quoting: Greatest I am


There are many layers to Torah and they all have deep spiritual meaning. Trusting in G-d is better than assuming that I'm a god and I created all of this.

It also doesn't bode well for your Gnostic god who is somehow incapable of saving you from the demiurge ... that is, if we are assuming beliefs.





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