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'Dominoes falling' in global shipping as coronavirus continues to grip China's economy | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 54777624  United States02/21/2020 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78489143  Canada02/21/2020 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This song is playing in my head when I hear the global supply chain starting to fail and all the domino effects. [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78489143 Canada02/21/2020 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great time for my car not wanting to start and I don't have a clue as to whats wrong. parts availability??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77988297 That's just the way fate works. It has a malicious sense of humor. It was like time I lost my job and my 1 year old computers motherboard decided to die shortly afterwards. It was also a few days after the warranty on the damn thing expired too! This is why I drive a car 26 years old that I can largely repair myself. While many parts may be made in China, there are also FEWER older cars still on the road which means there's a good supply of those parts sitting on warehouse shelves. While today it's rare to find a "car-cass" in a salvage yard that I can cannibalize for my old beater, the days of strolling into an Auto Zone for a rebuilt alternator are not gone yet, nor soon will be. I've also learned over the decades to keep a few cheaper parts [like sparkplugs and radiator hoses] onhand for emergency repairs. Umm 26 year old computers are slow. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77751384 United States02/21/2020 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From Australia: Quoting: Jesus Wept I talked with an IT operations manager for a major Australian bank this evening, they are finding it near impossible to replenish supplies of a range of essential consumables and spare IT inventory items. The China pipeline has stopped. I'd say we are weeks away from a cliff. [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]   |
Coastie Patriot
 User ID: 46740693 United States02/21/2020 08:58 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blah blah blah Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73067057 Meanwhile the shelves at walmart are STILL over flowing with cjinese plaster c garbage../ Nothing burger This guy is exactly right. It cant possibly change. Man, everybody is just so stupid. Let's look for AC 73067057 is a few weeks and see how his nothingburger tastes. sounds alot like revelations to me !!!! Coastie Patriot SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!! Dr Thaddeus They They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth." Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake. Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.- X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. -SHANE- Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington- to grow up remembering th My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!! Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales |
| Doctor Igaut Daflue, PhD User ID: 76792698 United States02/21/2020 08:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Better buy those Chinese products you want before there aren't any. I'm going out tomorrow to get that chest freezer I have been putting off. And then I am going to fill it with a half of a beef, American beef. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74652197 Canada02/21/2020 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This provides a painful demonstration that "Just-In-Time Shipping" or "Just-In-Time-Manufacturing" are and always were unsustainable methodologies operating at the brink of failure. Quoting: Louis in Richmond Businesses need to keep stock on-hand and purchase supplies domestically. Now the greed of people who lacked vision and foresight into the need to actually maintain a materials stock so they were not dependent upon foreign manufacturing is affecting people. People who will suffer and die from bad business decisions that placed profit before people. So all the chicken & pork we ship over there to be 'processed' by the Chinese slaves adding cancerous chemicals, that all won't be coming back to the states? Quoting: Half Past Midnight That's good. Process the food HERE withOUT cancer causing chemicals. More American jobs, healthier food. You can't just wave a magic wand and poof, you have the factory and trained workers up and running automatically. The machines, the trained staff, the building went bye bye years ago when some greedy asshole decided to off shore the jobs to China. Isn't funny though how prices have only ever gone up never down despite being made by slave labor. It's like these greedy sociopathic business people never passed on the savings to their consumers.  |
| hollyavila
User ID: 77491669 United States02/21/2020 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Container shipping from Chinese ports has collapsed since the outbreak of coronavirus and has yet to show any sign of recovery, threatening chaos for manufacturing supply lines and the broader structure of global trade. Almost half of the planned sailings on the route from Asia to North Europe have been cancelled over the last four weeks. A parallel drama is unfolding on routes from the Pacific Rim to the US and Latin America. Quoting: Jesus Wept Lars Jensen from SeaIntelligence in Copenhagen said the loss of traffic is running at 300,000 containers a week. This will cause a logistical crunch in Europe in early March even if the epidemic is brought under control quickly. “The dominoes are toppling through the whole chain. When ships don’t leave port in China, they don’t stop to pick up cargo in Hong Kong, Saigon, or Singapore either. Freight rates are in free fall,” he said. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk (secure)] It's started... Good i need nothing from china! I completely agree with you, but unfortunately a lot of our system has been based on Chinese goods, so it will take time to start making things here again. As far as food goes, buy from your local farmer. You should be doing that anyway. Support your local farmer. Every where I've ever lived (except in big cities) there is always a community farm to join. You pay in spring for the farmer to have supplies, you help with weeding and harvesting. That's the way we all need to go this year. Buy seeds now. Lentils and beans have lots of protein. I've been a vegetarian since 1975 and I have no heart disease, no diabetes, no cancer. If you must eat meat, then help to grow the animal you intend to eat. Big cities are starting to do roof gardens. If that's your only option, start now. |
| nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States02/21/2020 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Refrigerated ships full of frozen food - known as ‘reefers’ - are unable to enter Chinese ports because berths are full and therefore cannot tap into electricity chargers. There is a logjam caused by the critical shortage of dockers and drivers. Meat supplies are spoiling at sea. Quoting: Jesus Wept The US Agriculture Transportation Commission said the Pacific supply chain has been badly “compromised” and logistical headaches are building up as US ports as well. There will soon be an acute lack of containers in both American and European ports as the finely-tuned regime of world maritime transport goes haywire Who eats China made food? I always look.. Never the stores I shop... Besides.. Tea.. Which pisses me off. We use water chestnuts in three recipes. I stocked up. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74652197 Canada02/21/2020 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work in a large warehouse in California that deals with importing goods to all sorts of vendors (give you a hint, it rhymes with Bamazon) and work has already been slowing down. Hardly anything coming in, hardly any trailers to unload or freight to ship out. This shit is real folks, the ripple effects are happening in real time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30671160 Thread: China Supply Chain Collapse: Jeff Bezos Unloads $4 BILLION of Amazon Stock in ONE WEEK! |
| CSnow
User ID: 74827762 United States02/21/2020 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's like these greedy sociopathic business people never passed on the savings to their consumers. Quoting: 2hot2handle Also, a lot of smugness and arrogance - of the Hillary/Barack/Biden/Romney variety (the pro-NWO, anti-Brexit crowd) - has overtaken the world over the past few decades. A sort of Tower of Babel pride and arrogance, a lot of "we know what's best for you, so STFU you proles and peons." Insufferable, business-as-usual, pay-to-play attitudes, both politically and economically. Streaming out in buckets in the backrooms of the People's Republic of Orwellian-1984 China, Silicon Valley/Wall Street/Hollywood, the EU in Brussels, the ivory towers of most schools and colleges, the CNN-ized media. A lot of people cackling through the years, "We came, we saw, you got hosed." . |
| Little Red Hen
User ID: 77374651 United States02/21/2020 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Container shipping from Chinese ports has collapsed since the outbreak of coronavirus and has yet to show any sign of recovery, threatening chaos for manufacturing supply lines and the broader structure of global trade. Almost half of the planned sailings on the route from Asia to North Europe have been cancelled over the last four weeks. A parallel drama is unfolding on routes from the Pacific Rim to the US and Latin America. Quoting: Jesus Wept Lars Jensen from SeaIntelligence in Copenhagen said the loss of traffic is running at 300,000 containers a week. This will cause a logistical crunch in Europe in early March even if the epidemic is brought under control quickly. “The dominoes are toppling through the whole chain. When ships don’t leave port in China, they don’t stop to pick up cargo in Hong Kong, Saigon, or Singapore either. Freight rates are in free fall,” he said. [link to www.telegraph.co.uk (secure)] It's started... Good i need nothing from china! Look up, a retard ^ I for one am will endure a little pain to watch these companies and people who have gotten rich by fucking over Americans either on the vine. Time to pay the piper for letting the US become so dependent on 12 year old kids being tortured to make cheap shit. Make it at home, by Made In America. ^THIS^ I don’t suffer fools or shills lightly... Don’t gaslight me, bro. |
| GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States02/21/2020 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great time for my car not wanting to start and I don't have a clue as to whats wrong. parts availability??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77988297 That's just the way fate works. It has a malicious sense of humor. It was like time I lost my job and my 1 year old computers motherboard decided to die shortly afterwards. It was also a few days after the warranty on the damn thing expired too! This is why I drive a car 26 years old that I can largely repair myself. While many parts may be made in China, there are also FEWER older cars still on the road which means there's a good supply of those parts sitting on warehouse shelves. While today it's rare to find a "car-cass" in a salvage yard that I can cannibalize for my old beater, the days of strolling into an Auto Zone for a rebuilt alternator are not gone yet, nor soon will be. I've also learned over the decades to keep a few cheaper parts [like sparkplugs and radiator hoses] onhand for emergency repairs. Umm 26 year old computers are slow. Well, I wasn't talking about PC's, now was I? It sounds like you've never lived in a world without a computer on your desk or in your hand. I HAVE, and so has anybody over the age of 50... [Hell: I still remember when electric typewriters and color TV's were rare and expensive] which means we'll be able to adapt far more easily than you can ever imagine. And my old '93 Mazda can still hit 75 in about ten seconds... but that's NOT the point. Take this hint from a guy who's pushing 70 himself- SLOW DOWN your life and learn to enjoy it a little bit more along the way [I don't even own a cellphone]... you'll live much longer if you do, particularly in the near-future. You've been programmed [or have done it to yourself!] into thinking that everything in your life has to be NOW and the FASTER the BETTER. And that's just pure unadulterated bullshit. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 02/21/2020 09:43 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78501106  Poland02/21/2020 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So all the chicken & pork we ship over there to be 'processed' by the Chinese slaves adding cancerous chemicals, that all won't be coming back to the states? Quoting: Half Past Midnight That's good. Process the food HERE withOUT cancer causing chemicals. More American jobs, healthier food. WHAT THE HECK! And the government complains about OUR CO2 usage when they are doing THIS?! How cheap and stupid can they be?! "Chinese chicken" will soon have a whole new meaning, as the U.S. Department of Agriculture recently gave the green-light to four chicken processing plants in China, allowing chicken raised and slaughtered in the U.S. to be exported to China for processing, and then shipped back to the U.S. and sold on grocery shelves here." Source: [link to www.shape.com (secure)] Trump should outlaw that kind of stuff. So many things could go wrong with such a workflow! (Like one that is happening now) Set-up temp visas for Mexicans and let US companies do the work. The US department of agriculture can suck my toe. bunch of sell-outs. it does not matter though because I think it is no longer feasible. Shipping lines have complete seized up, ports are backed up, everything is rotting. Good luck trying to implement your shit plan assholes. If there was ever a time to own a small farm and fend for yourself this is it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75656075 United States02/21/2020 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So all the chicken & pork we ship over there to be 'processed' by the Chinese slaves adding cancerous chemicals, that all won't be coming back to the states? Quoting: Half Past Midnight That's good. Process the food HERE withOUT cancer causing chemicals. More American jobs, healthier food. That chicken you buy for $4.99/lb will be $19.99/lb overnight. I would still pay for it. I pay $1.99 for boneless chicken breast. Sometimes less. |
| HuJack007
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| GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States02/21/2020 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So all the chicken & pork we ship over there to be 'processed' by the Chinese slaves adding cancerous chemicals, that all won't be coming back to the states? Quoting: Half Past Midnight That's good. Process the food HERE withOUT cancer causing chemicals. More American jobs, healthier food. That chicken you buy for $4.99/lb will be $19.99/lb overnight. I would still pay for it. I pay $1.99 for boneless chicken breast. Sometimes less. As do I and it DOESN'T come from China - more commonly it's Little Rock, Arkansas, or the Tyson plant that's about 120 miles due West from where I write this in SC Kansas [which is right next door to a big ExCel Beef processing plant so my wing and Sirloin supply should be safe for quite awhile yet!]. BOTTOMLINE for everyone: read the damned labels on the packages you buy. If you don't like the origin, then DON'T BUY IT. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 02/21/2020 09:38 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78499677  Australia02/21/2020 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From Australia: Quoting: Jesus Wept I talked with an IT operations manager for a major Australian bank this evening, they are finding it near impossible to replenish supplies of a range of essential consumables and spare IT inventory items. The China pipeline has stopped. I'd say we are weeks away from a cliff. [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] One of the big computer supply shops here said they are totally screwed, cos absolutely everything comes from China. |
| GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States02/21/2020 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From Australia: Quoting: Jesus Wept I talked with an IT operations manager for a major Australian bank this evening, they are finding it near impossible to replenish supplies of a range of essential consumables and spare IT inventory items. The China pipeline has stopped. I'd say we are weeks away from a cliff. [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] One of the big computer supply shops here said they are totally screwed, cos absolutely everything comes from China. Can you share how self-sufficient Australia actually is? As dynamic as your people and nation are known to be I would expect that in most areas you'll be just fine, especially since your nation is the only continent really isolated unto itself and has long-ago adapted to the vagaries of relying upon foreign imports. Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 02/21/2020 09:37 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78499677 Australia02/21/2020 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work for a packaging manufacturer, everything folding carton we manufacture at home but all our sturdy rigid boxes come from China and we have no word when we’re getting another round of supplies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76806425 I went to Best Buy the other day and noticed some shelves are thinning out, I talked to one of the guys and he said they have plenty of TVs as those are all made a year out in advance but the big companies like Sony and Samsung have shuttered their distribution warehouses? It’s already been happening a few weeks now and picking up pace. Many small businesses are going down the gurgler here, a lot due to lack of Chinese tourists. One store, who sells local pure honey, has now not only got very few customers, but now can't get orders of bags and packaging to put purchases in. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77587814 United States02/21/2020 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: 2hot2handle That's just the way fate works. It has a malicious sense of humor. It was like time I lost my job and my 1 year old computers motherboard decided to die shortly afterwards. It was also a few days after the warranty on the damn thing expired too! This is why I drive a car 26 years old that I can largely repair myself. While many parts may be made in China, there are also FEWER older cars still on the road which means there's a good supply of those parts sitting on warehouse shelves. While today it's rare to find a "car-cass" in a salvage yard that I can cannibalize for my old beater, the days of strolling into an Auto Zone for a rebuilt alternator are not gone yet, nor soon will be. I've also learned over the decades to keep a few cheaper parts [like sparkplugs and radiator hoses] onhand for emergency repairs. Umm 26 year old computers are slow. Well, I wasn't talking about PC's, now was I? It sounds like you've never lived in a world without a computer on your desk or in your hand. I HAVE, and so has anybody over the age of 50... [Hell: I still remember when electric typewriters and color TV's were rare and expensive] which means we'll be able to adapt far more easily than you can ever imagine. And my old '93 Mazda can still hit 75 in about ten seconds... but that's NOT the point. Take this hint from a guy who's pushing 70 - SLOW DOWN your life and learn to enjoy it a little bit more along the way [I don't even own a cellphone]... you'll live much longer if you do, particularly in the near-future. You've been programmed [or have doen it to yourself!] into thinking that everything in your life has to be NOW and the FASTER the BETTER. And that's just pure unadulterated bullshit. He’s right!!!! |
| IM YOUR HUCKLEBERRY
User ID: 7645962 United States02/21/2020 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So all the chicken & pork we ship over there to be 'processed' by the Chinese slaves adding cancerous chemicals, that all won't be coming back to the states? Quoting: Half Past Midnight That's good. Process the food HERE withOUT cancer causing chemicals. More American jobs, healthier food. WHAT THE HECK! And the government complains about OUR CO2 usage when they are doing THIS?! How cheap and stupid can they be?! "Chinese chicken" will soon have a whole new meaning, as the U.S. Department of Agriculture recently gave the green-light to four chicken processing plants in China, allowing chicken raised and slaughtered in the U.S. to be exported to China for processing, and then shipped back to the U.S. and sold on grocery shelves here." Source: [link to www.shape.com (secure)] Trump should outlaw that kind of stuff. So many things could go wrong with such a workflow! (Like one that is happening now) Set-up temp visas for Mexicans and let US companies do the work. The Coronavirus will put an end to all this gross profit taking that companies all over America have been doing all these years. I just can't believe they would ship chicken all the way to China to be processed. NOT ANYMORE ITS OVER!! |
| Starburne
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| Starburne
User ID: 78505501 South Africa02/21/2020 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work for a packaging manufacturer, everything folding carton we manufacture at home but all our sturdy rigid boxes come from China and we have no word when we’re getting another round of supplies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76806425 I went to Best Buy the other day and noticed some shelves are thinning out, I talked to one of the guys and he said they have plenty of TVs as those are all made a year out in advance but the big companies like Sony and Samsung have shuttered their distribution warehouses? It’s already been happening a few weeks now and picking up pace. Many small businesses are going down the gurgler here, a lot due to lack of Chinese tourists. One store, who sells local pure honey, has now not only got very few customers, but now can't get orders of bags and packaging to put purchases in. Convert to making body-bags? There sure to be a boom soon  "I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious." -Albert Einstein |
| Epic Beard Guy
User ID: 77993004 United States02/21/2020 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So all the chicken & pork we ship over there to be 'processed' by the Chinese slaves adding cancerous chemicals, that all won't be coming back to the states? Quoting: Half Past Midnight That's good. Process the food HERE withOUT cancer causing chemicals. More American jobs, healthier food. If the communist Chinese open their ports and find people to off load the meat, it will get processed and shipped back. Safety of the American food supply is not a concern that will stop them from taking our dollars. Last Edited by Epic Beard Guy on 02/21/2020 09:48 AM Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
| Azaziah
User ID: 72551314 United States02/21/2020 09:48 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Market Summary > Dow Jones Industrial Average INDEXDJX: .DJI 28,943.66 -276.32 (0.95%) Last Edited by Azaziah on 02/21/2020 09:48 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76594256 Canada02/21/2020 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not for nothong But if ppl haven't figured out That fake news with all thete talk of trump Hasn't been a cover up Used to hide this world wide supply chain reorganization Then Nothing but scorn and ridicule should be heaped on them |
| BeelzeBob
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| Teslahowitzer User ID: 74072982 United States02/21/2020 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78493549 United States02/21/2020 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So all the chicken & pork we ship over there to be 'processed' by the Chinese slaves adding cancerous chemicals, that all won't be coming back to the states? Quoting: Half Past Midnight That's good. Process the food HERE withOUT cancer causing chemicals. More American jobs, healthier food. Good point. Hopefully this'll lead to a global reset when it comes to imports and relying on other countries so much. All planned for the global reset and introducing XRP as the digital world currency GTF out of here with your XRP bullshit. Trump hates Crytpo and there is NO WAY IN HELL the gov or the MIC wants to be transparent about their spening with anything that is 100% auditable. |
