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Copperhead
 User ID: 78321461  United States02/22/2020 03:13 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ yup THIS is the real doom... If the virus doesn't get you society collapsing will...  Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! I think it would take 10 years to tool back up our manufacturing... Most of the equipment has been shipped to china long ago. We would need a "Manhattan project" or JFK's man on the moon imperitive -- get it done in 2 years.. massive tax breaks to the winner and other incentives.. could be done methinks.. Would not take 2 years to fake our re-tooling in a Hollywood back lot. |
| Wolf 1776
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23309628  Canada02/22/2020 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bring back jobs to the USA then alot will get rich Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78196739 i am sure there will be new business start up It has taken 30+ years to slowly destroy our manufacturing and now it's time to pay the Piper, this will not end well!  Yep. All started with Clinton and Nafta and then letting China in the WTO. Ross Perot warned about that HUGE SUCKING SOUND of jobs leaving, but nobody listened. And FYI for those that don't know, he was with the Reform Party which is the party Trump tried his first run with. I'm glad Trump is the President to help us through this time. He has foresight. Something sorely lacking in the Dem and R party. The Godfather of this information was this man (and common sense) Met Chuck Harder a few times when I lived in N. Florida. He was truly in the same vein as Cooper. The NWO f#kked him over good and he got so ill he had to sell his station, the hotel it was located in, and became a penniless invalid. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78060316 United States02/22/2020 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bring back jobs to the USA then alot will get rich Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78196739 i am sure there will be new business start up It has taken 30+ years to slowly destroy our manufacturing and now it's time to pay the Piper, this will not end well! Yep. All started with Clinton and Nafta and then letting China in the WTO. Ross Perot warned about that HUGE SUCKING SOUND of jobs leaving, but nobody listened. And FYI for those that don't know, he was with the Reform Party which is the party Trump tried his first run with. I'm glad Trump is the President to help us through this time. He has foresight. Something sorely lacking in the Dem and R party. It actually started with Nixon. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75319468 United States02/22/2020 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “ 94% of the Fortune 1000 are seeing coronavirus supply chain disruptions: Report” Quoting: ThinkItOut [link to fortune.com (secure)] yup THIS is the real doom... If the virus doesn't get you society collapsing will... Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! it's not an overnight process particularly electronics. . The guy who repaired my garage door told me he used to be in electronics and that the real reason that the industry was moved to China wasn’t because of cheaper labor but because of the amount of pollution it creates. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76272943 United States02/22/2020 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78479229  Brazil02/22/2020 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything is Just In Time from the cheapest source. To save a penny. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73130781 A rickety Rube Foldberg device with Single Points of Failure all along the line. To save a penny. A whole lot of rich people are going to go bankrupt and see their golden geese die. To save a penny. Single points of failure everywhere. No redundancies. No inventories. No backups. No alternate sources. No flexibilities. To save a penny. great poetry. a lot of truth. Someone needs to write this on rock and put it there with those other Georgia Guide stones. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77517484 United States02/22/2020 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ yup THIS is the real doom... If the virus doesn't get you society collapsing will... Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! it's not an overnight process particularly electronics. . The guy who repaired my garage door told me he used to be in electronics and that the real reason that the industry was moved to China wasn’t because of cheaper labor but because of the amount of pollution it creates. The same bullshit story can be said about any industry. Foundries, steel mills, refineries, plating processes, etc. Any industry can run clean, it just costs a bit more. The reason those industries and others have been outsourced is because labor costs are a fraction of ours and the govts don't give a shit about running dirty as long as they get paid. Simple dollars and the bottom line calling the shots from the main offices. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76884150 United States02/22/2020 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: M R E It has taken 30+ years to slowly destroy our manufacturing and now it's time to pay the Piper, this will not end well! Yep. All started with Clinton and Nafta and then letting China in the WTO. Ross Perot warned about that HUGE SUCKING SOUND of jobs leaving, but nobody listened. And FYI for those that don't know, he was with the Reform Party which is the party Trump tried his first run with. I'm glad Trump is the President to help us through this time. He has foresight. Something sorely lacking in the Dem and R party. The Godfather of this information was this man (and common sense) Met Chuck Harder a few times when I lived in N. Florida. He was truly in the same vein as Cooper. The NWO f#kked him over good and he got so ill he had to sell his station, the hotel it was located in, and became a penniless invalid. You can tell which ones were telling the truth by how they end up. TPTB used both the IRS and the UAW to get rid of Chuck. He is mentioned in a book about HRC who was said to be furious with him. Chuck was a good 20 years ahead of the curve. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78069867 United States02/22/2020 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78069867 United States02/22/2020 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Met Chuck Harder a few times when I lived in N. Florida. He was truly in the same vein as Cooper. The NWO f#kked him over good and he got so ill he had to sell his station, the hotel it was located in, and became a penniless invalid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23309628 He passed away in 2018  Talk Radio Pioneer and Host Chuck Harder Dead at 74 [link to news.radio-online.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78496719 United States02/22/2020 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78487383 Yep. All started with Clinton and Nafta and then letting China in the WTO. Ross Perot warned about that HUGE SUCKING SOUND of jobs leaving, but nobody listened. And FYI for those that don't know, he was with the Reform Party which is the party Trump tried his first run with. I'm glad Trump is the President to help us through this time. He has foresight. Something sorely lacking in the Dem and R party. The Godfather of this information was this man (and common sense) Met Chuck Harder a few times when I lived in N. Florida. He was truly in the same vein as Cooper. The NWO f#kked him over good and he got so ill he had to sell his station, the hotel it was located in, and became a penniless invalid. You can tell which ones were telling the truth by how they end up. TPTB used both the IRS and the UAW to get rid of Chuck. He is mentioned in a book about HRC who was said to be furious with him. Chuck was a good 20 years ahead of the curve. This brings back memories! I used to love to listen to Chuck's show on the shortwave radio. He was truly a pioneer. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75319468 United States02/22/2020 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Cynical Realist Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! it's not an overnight process particularly electronics. . The guy who repaired my garage door told me he used to be in electronics and that the real reason that the industry was moved to China wasn’t because of cheaper labor but because of the amount of pollution it creates. The same bullshit story can be said about any industry. Foundries, steel mills, refineries, plating processes, etc. Any industry can run clean, it just costs a bit more. The reason those industries and others have been outsourced is because labor costs are a fraction of ours and the govts don't give a shit about running dirty as long as they get paid. Simple dollars and the bottom line calling the shots from the main offices. ... Quoting: Cynical Realist Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! it's not an overnight process particularly electronics. . The guy who repaired my garage door told me he used to be in electronics and that the real reason that the industry was moved to China wasn’t because of cheaper labor but because of the amount of pollution it creates. The same bullshit story can be said about any industry. Foundries, steel mills, refineries, plating processes, etc. Any industry can run clean, it just costs a bit more. The reason those industries and others have been outsourced is because labor costs are a fraction of ours and the govts don't give a shit about running dirty as long as they get paid. Simple dollars and the bottom line calling the shots from the main offices. Well that’s what I told the guy I thought, too, once the repair job was done. Lol. |
| Phillip J. Fry
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78340688 United States02/22/2020 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ yup THIS is the real doom... If the virus doesn't get you society collapsing will... Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! I think it would take 10 years to tool back up our manufacturing... Most of the equipment has been shipped to china long ago. Yep....its a gamble for entrepreneurs.....spend millions to set up production that may be just short term.....the vitus might mutate into a less contagious form and stop.....China production resumes.....entrepreneurs stuck with half built factory that can't compete with China.....decisions decisions..... Great minds. Was going to post similar.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77749802 United States02/22/2020 03:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bring back jobs to the USA then alot will get rich Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78196739 i am sure there will be new business start up Anyone with a sewing talent could sew up good, thick, washable face masks and sell them on eBay or Craigslist. Opportunity knocks! Nobody wants to live the rest of their lives like that or like this. All the fake doom with the swine flu, the h1n1, the sars, the cdiff (that one is for real and deadly asf), all the others and now this one. I feel this one is legit but all the yuppies are like ya sure heard this before with all the other ones. So little boy cried wolf is where we are and are all going to die due to it. I would actually rather someone just nuke us and turn us to dust quick and with mercy than to watch this suffering and see my family end up suffering. Sad day when you have to say you would rather get nuked than go out this way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75838205 United States02/22/2020 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “ 94% of the Fortune 1000 are seeing coronavirus supply chain disruptions: Report” Quoting: ThinkItOut [link to fortune.com (secure)] yup THIS is the real doom... If the virus doesn't get you society collapsing will... Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! I think it would take 10 years to tool back up our manufacturing... Most of the equipment has been shipped to china long ago. Not only that but R&D, patents and proprietary Manufacturing processes of the last 20 years or so are owned or co-owned by China. Most newer manufacturing we don't know how or are locked out by patents. A long term plan to destroy America. China was green lighted by the globalists. Well placed money in our government by way of satanic Psychopaths helped them. This is the internal war Trump is fighting. I believe the empire struck back. We are done for and the NWO installs out of the ashes |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78489143 Canada02/22/2020 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stock up on stuff you need because you might not be able to buy it in the near future. Even if something says made in Mexico or Germany, that doesn't mean everything that went into making it comes from that country. Anything from packaging to ingredients to machine parts for the machine that makes the product could come from China. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72726126 United States02/22/2020 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78489143 Canada02/22/2020 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 46699650 United States02/22/2020 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in the flooring industry. a manufactures rep. I sell flooring to people who sell flooring Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46699650 SPC Floating Rigid Core Hardsurfaces is the hottest product in the market, fake waterproof wood look laminate basically. We have 11 Million Dollars in inventory, company emailed this week that any orders over 3 pallets would be questioned, no truckload orders will be filled from inventory, Said 60% of the Chinese workforce was out, and they expect it back to 100% next week ( LMFAO Not going to Happen ) but we lost 3-4 weeks of production due to the extended Chinese New Year / CoronaV - Here is the bad, The pellet Carpet fibers are extruded from comes from China too, its a bi-product of oil. There will be repercussions in all avenues of every segment of every market do to this and we dont even see an end in sight. Be prepared to make it through some trying times. Luxury items will be 1st place to tighten the old belt. Why can't you buy from Armstrong. They produce in Lancaster, PA, USA. Or from one of the Dalton, GA producers. The Company I work for IS based in Dalton and not everything Armstrong makes in made in the USA or the produducts the products are Made from. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9648205 United States02/22/2020 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya until the shelves are half empty and you can't buy toilet paper because the machine that makes it broke down and the only parts for it come from China. What about the advent of 3D printing and rapid prototyping? I can't imagine that - in 2020 - a machine part can't be 3D scanned and machined here in the USA pretty damn quickly. Yes, there will be a production lag, but everyone makes it sound like China is producing irreplaceable, one-of-a-kind machined parts. It's like: All Chinese parts a cheap crap! vs OMG, the stuff China makes is irreplaceable, we're all DOOMED! Well, which is it?! |
| THE AMERICAN INQUISITOR
User ID: 78464508 United States02/22/2020 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “ 94% of the Fortune 1000 are seeing coronavirus supply chain disruptions: Report” Quoting: ThinkItOut [link to fortune.com (secure)] yup THIS is the real doom... If the virus doesn't get you society collapsing will... Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! I think it would take 10 years to tool back up our manufacturing... Most of the equipment has been shipped to china long ago. We can and will rebuild.. :nose23l36: SCOTLAND FOREVER America is the Grand Experiment..Let us not Fail.. Listed Number 1 in the Guinness World Record Book of EXTRA LARGE Steel Balls Opinions are like Farts..Only the very best linger on and on Great Men wake up to slay spam tards. Most are content to chase lizards. Therein lies the difference. Live Brave.LIVE FREE. Murphy is my patron Saint. I SIGN MY NEG KARMA |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78090287 United States02/22/2020 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Cynical Realist Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! I think it would take 10 years to tool back up our manufacturing... Most of the equipment has been shipped to china long ago. We would need a "Manhattan project" or JFK's man on the moon imperitive -- get it done in 2 years.. massive tax breaks to the winner and other incentives.. could be done methinks.. Would not take 2 years to fake our re-tooling in a Hollywood back lot. Was told over 20 years ago We can not manufacture because all the "tools and dies AND instructions?Manuals? Information?" had been sent to China. Guy was in the manufacturing/machinist field. I did not know anything about the field, but always remembered his stern warning. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78489143 Canada02/22/2020 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya until the shelves are half empty and you can't buy toilet paper because the machine that makes it broke down and the only parts for it come from China. What about the advent of 3D printing and rapid prototyping? I can't imagine that - in 2020 - a machine part can't be 3D scanned and machined here in the USA pretty damn quickly. Yes, there will be a production lag, but everyone makes it sound like China is producing irreplaceable, one-of-a-kind machined parts. It's like: All Chinese parts a cheap crap! vs OMG, the stuff China makes is irreplaceable, we're all DOOMED! Well, which is it?! That's why the machine broke down. Cheap made in China parts! Just because you can only get something that is made in China doesn't mean we think it is a great product. It is in some cases no choice at all when it comes to some things. Where are 3D printers made? Let me guess Made in China or parts of it is. What about the material used to make the 3D items. Is it made in China as well. Do you see where I am going with this. China seems to be in the supply chain of a lot of things whether we realize it or not. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78508665 United States02/22/2020 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ yup THIS is the real doom... If the virus doesn't get you society collapsing will... Wouldnt this be an opportunity for USA to fill in some of the gaps... Ie expand manufacturing to cover shortfall?? Any country NOW would be able to cash in to some extent?? Of course prices would go up!! I think it would take 10 years to tool back up our manufacturing... Most of the equipment has been shipped to china long ago. We can and will rebuild.. In about 10,000 years in the next cycle. This one - you're all done... |
| CSnow
User ID: 74827762 United States02/22/2020 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would actually rather someone just nuke us and turn us to dust quick and with mercy than to watch this suffering and see my family end up suffering. Sad day when you have to say you would rather get nuked than go out this way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77749802 Even before the Wuhan Virus, I saw the US as being like the proverbial frog being slowly boiled alive. The crap of the New World Order, pay-to-play, anti-Brexit, anti-MAGA and greedy, idiotic, shortsighted "How dare you!" liberalism in general, has turned too many people into SJW-loving zombies. If there's any silver lining out of an epidemic, it hopefully will be more people stopping with the bullshit of "Hope and Change," "I'm With Her" and "How Dare You!" And the various versions of the "ka-ching" of Clinton-foundation-type scams. . |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75890110 United States02/22/2020 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77378410 United States02/22/2020 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another doom looming is pharmaceuticals... Quoting: Azaziah It will be a matter of weeks before people will be unable to get prescriptions filled. Insulin. Blood pressure meds. anti-depressants. anti-psychotics. antibiotics. penicillin. SSRI's Apparently, in the US alone, there are well over 150,000,000 people on prescription meds. ...I'm sure it will be fine. Jusdafloo, bro. I don’t normally watch Cramer on cnbc just because I think he’s full of crap, but last night as I turned the channel he said a few things. He said he believes this pharma thing is actually a matter of national security because we should never allow ourselves to be dependent on medical from one country like that. |
| Little Red Hen
User ID: 78510704 United States02/22/2020 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | bring back jobs to the USA then alot will get rich Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78196739 i am sure there will be new business start up Anyone with a sewing talent could sew up good, thick, washable face masks and sell them on eBay or Craigslist. Opportunity knocks! Where would you get the fabric from to do it? It’s all made in China or other Asian countries. Plus fabric wouldn’t keep out viruses. I don’t suffer fools or shills lightly... Don’t gaslight me, bro. |
