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Help me brain storm a solution for this scenario...

Out of concern for their safety, you told your family and friends to prep...they didn't...but now they know you have prepped.

TSHTF. The store shelves are empty.

Now your friends and family are calling trying to guilt trip you out of your preps.

You tell them NO! If you split your preps among all of them the preps would only last about 3 days.

They come over and start knocking & ringing your doorbell...They are not trying to kick the door in, but they say they are NOT going to stop knocking until you give them your preps.

HOW DO YOU MAKE THEM LEAVE WITHOUT SERIOUSLY HURTING THEM OR KILLING THEM?

What could you do to inflict just enough pain or discomfort to make them leave?
 Quoting: Mental Case


All they have to do is call the cops that you're HORDING. Even if you bought your preps a few years earlier instead of going on that high-dollar vacation, or buying cool, new vehicles, all brand new clothes and other adult toys.

You mistake was that YOU TOLD ANYONE ABOUT YOUR PREPS. Family are the worst people to tell, because they will always be more critical of you (especially if your the Black Sheep that thinks outside the box).

Your only chance-MOVE! Or, let them in and share. Otherwise the cops will break down your door, shoot you and steal all your supplies. Watched it happen in another country.

Good luck! (and pray to the Lord for direction)
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The worse mistake anyone will think is that I have not been prepared. I been prepared since 1998.

I still got good beans and rice since 1998. I read on GLP that some people's preps went bad...they were ignorant as i am living proof. I got beans and rice, good, since way back then. Two days ago, I ate carrots that were 10 years old.

My best defense is that i LOOK like an old lady...you know the type, liberal, with no guns and no food. That is their last mistake. I am no liberal. I just do not let anyone know what I got.

I got shit buried all over the place. The internet is a good thing and I have prepared.

My best defense is my age and sex. Bring it on mother fuckers. I am a very good shot and the fuckers will never see it coming.
 Quoting: Maiya


YES! Much respect
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Just stop being their friend now...

They won’t ask. Don’t tell them about SHTF... if you do, and they don’t agree and make fun of you.

Time to move on...

My parents are the same way. I will always love them... but they need to WAKE UP!!!
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Hope you have enough arsenal to protect yourself.first thing im taking is a bulldozer then coming for the food.
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They come over and start knocking & ringing your doorbell...They are not trying to kick the door in, but they say they are NOT going to stop knocking until you give them your preps.
 Quoting: Mental Case


How the fuck they get past the man traps and razor wire to ring your doorbell?

Oh, right.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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02/23/2020 11:03 PM

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I fucking don't tell anyone my business.
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This!
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Lol, I swear.
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Just stop being their friend now...

They won’t ask. Don’t tell them about SHTF... if you do, and they don’t agree and make fun of you.

Time to move on...

My parents are the same way. I will always love them... but they need to WAKE UP!!!
 Quoting: Xitan


This too.

Set boundaries.

Clearly say: Under the current conditions I cannot let you in my house. Stick by it. Give them alternative places to go.

I have a sign on my door that says: Restricted Area, Do Not Enter.

I've have told my neighbors that they cannot help themselves to my water or anything in my yard. I have to remind them again and again.

Stand your ground. Be serious, no joking. You don't have to be mean, just firm and clear and consistent.
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Help me brain storm a solution for this scenario...

Out of concern for their safety, you told your family and friends to prep...they didn't...but now they know you have prepped.

TSHTF. The store shelves are empty.

Now your friends and family are calling trying to guilt trip you out of your preps.

You tell them NO! If you split your preps among all of them the preps would only last about 3 days.

They come over and start knocking & ringing your doorbell...They are not trying to kick the door in, but they say they are NOT going to stop knocking until you give them your preps.

HOW DO YOU MAKE THEM LEAVE WITHOUT SERIOUSLY HURTING THEM OR KILLING THEM?

What could you do to inflict just enough pain or discomfort to make them leave?
 Quoting: Mental Case


Tell them you are already possibly imfected and ordered under quarantine. Cough convincingly. Hang an looking medical hazard sign on your door.
You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative."
Winston Churchill
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Just stop being their friend now...

They won’t ask. Don’t tell them about SHTF... if you do, and they don’t agree and make fun of you.

Time to move on...

My parents are the same way. I will always love them... but they need to WAKE UP!!!
 Quoting: Xitan


When shtf. Two types of people-

people who are ready
And those who are not,

Don’t let yourself get the Darwin Award.

leave the others behind, you are on your own. Survival

Good luck
Maiya
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Just stop being their friend now...

They won’t ask. Don’t tell them about SHTF... if you do, and they don’t agree and make fun of you.

Time to move on...

My parents are the same way. I will always love them... but they need to WAKE UP!!!
 Quoting: Xitan


When shtf. Two types of people-

people who are ready
And those who are not,

Don’t let yourself get the Darwin Award.

leave the others behind, you are on your own. Survival

Good luck
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This is good AC. I agree.
They never thought she would lose. Now they all lose.
Armchair General
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That is easy.. tell them you have the coronavirus!
-Armchair General-

"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." -General of the Army Douglas MacArthur

"I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major General and during that period, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism." -Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC - 1933

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02/23/2020 11:14 PM
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Help me brain storm a solution for this scenario...

Out of concern for their safety, you told your family and friends to prep...they didn't...but now they know you have prepped.

TSHTF. The store shelves are empty.

Now your friends and family are calling trying to guilt trip you out of your preps.

You tell them NO! If you split your preps among all of them the preps would only last about 3 days.

They come over and start knocking & ringing your doorbell...They are not trying to kick the door in, but they say they are NOT going to stop knocking until you give them your preps.

HOW DO YOU MAKE THEM LEAVE WITHOUT SERIOUSLY HURTING THEM OR KILLING THEM?

What could you do to inflict just enough pain or discomfort to make them leave?
 Quoting: Mental Case

Grow some balls.
telling it straight

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The worse mistake anyone will think is that I have not been prepared. I been prepared since 1998.

I still got good beans and rice since 1998. I read on GLP that some people's preps went bad...they were ignorant as i am living proof. I got beans and rice, good, since way back then. Two days ago, I ate carrots that were 10 years old.

My best defense is that i LOOK like an old lady...you know the type, liberal, with no guns and no food. That is their last mistake. I am no liberal. I just do not let anyone know what I got.

I got shit buried all over the place. The internet is a good thing and I have prepared.

My best defense is my age and sex. Bring it on mother fuckers. I am a very good shot and the fuckers will never see it coming.
 Quoting: Maiya


Lol Love your outlook!!!
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02/23/2020 11:16 PM
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Learn NOT to ever answer the door.

Ask they what service they are willing to do in exchange for some of your preps? How many hours are they willing to clean? What very valued possession are they willing to exchange for some supplies?

If they asked you for a loan of $500 would you give it to them? Stay away from takers. Givers offer you goods or services in exchange.
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If it comes to it I am going trash the front of the house.
Throw some plants and garbage around.
Maybe break a window or two.
Make it look like it has been already ransacked.

I pray it don't come to that.
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02/23/2020 11:17 PM
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Go to their door first and tell them you were broken into and all your preps were stolen. You had packed everything in a vehicle and it was stolen from there. Show them a pic of your car door open in your driveway with some empty boxes thrown around and rifled through and say you can’t believe it was all taken.
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The worse mistake anyone will think is that I have not been prepared. I been prepared since 1998.

I still got good beans and rice since 1998. I read on GLP that some people's preps went bad...they were ignorant as i am living proof. I got beans and rice, good, since way back then. Two days ago, I ate carrots that were 10 years old.

My best defense is that i LOOK like an old lady...you know the type, liberal, with no guns and no food. That is their last mistake. I am no liberal. I just do not let anyone know what I got.

I got shit buried all over the place. The internet is a good thing and I have prepared.

My best defense is my age and sex. Bring it on mother fuckers. I am a very good shot and the fuckers will never see it coming.
 Quoting: Maiya


yoda
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The 2 workable suggestions so far is say I'm infected or move.

Bear spray wont work because I wont open the door.

I don't think you guys appreciate how desperate people can get when watching their own children go hungry...They wont be rational!

There will be no "explaining" anything to them.

I believe some amount of pain will be required but I don't want to kill them.
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
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cpl points to add.

1> if your plan is to give them something and keep the good stuff,u fail. giving them anything once obligates u to give again. they will return when they run out. this is a mistake. if u have spare stuff today,u will have tomorrow. it is like enabling a druggy. u helped them,so they learned u will help them always. time to rethink this plan.

2> yeah it is hard especially if it is close family- mom,dad, sister,brother,kids. this u should figure out before the time comes. do u want them to come to your place? then call them and invite them. u know how they are, so plan accordingly. get extra stock. prep like they are part of the household.

if u do not want them to come to your place, as others have pointed out do not tell them anything. start distancing from them. less and less social conatact so they know less of what u are doing.hopefully,they will forget u and go to a friend.

3> HELP THOSE WHO CAN AND WILL HELP U. if they are freeloaders now,they will b lazy later too.if they are the type to cut wood,hunt,have gardening skills,or old enuf to have the knowledge of surving the great depression, help these ppl. they will b assetts to have. they will help keep u alive. do not foget the elders with knowledge, their experiences will b worth more than books.

set rules and tell ppl. do not asume theyknow. many will be shocked and not know what to do. they will need to be told.

4> quarantine anyone who shows up. once u lock down and start wearing yopur masks, letting anyone inside your home could contaminate it. u just wasted all the preps u used b4 that. automatic quarantine minimum 30 days. use your garage,shed,camper,tents if down south. treat them as u would an infected person until they prove they are not.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth.


if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars.
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Your first mistake was telling anyone that you had prepped

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I know! But this was over 20 years ago and I had no idea the reaction I was going to get from them.

If I knew then what I know now...
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
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Well, if you tell them no and send them away, depending on how you get them to leave they're going to come back. And they're probably coming back with more people and weapons. Sorry to say, but there is only one way to deal with this scenario.
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The 2 workable suggestions so far is say I'm infected or move.

Bear spray wont work because I wont open the door.

I don't think you guys appreciate how desperate people can get when watching their own children go hungry...They wont be rational!

There will be no "explaining" anything to them.

I believe some amount of pain will be required but I don't want to kill them.
 Quoting: Mental Case


I am five, five, and female. Back in the early 80's, I got down to 69 pounds. I looked like some skeleton from Africa. I am white.

I went to the food stamp office and was about laughed out of the office. I was told, I am white go get a JOB (by fat blacks) ! I was starving, literally.

I know true hunger. If I ever go there again, watch out. MF'ers, I am prepped and trained. I went in the Army a few years later (barely made the minimum weight), was the 6th female to pass EOD school. When I went to PLDC, led my squad and disabled all trips. Do not fuck with me. I know my shit.

I am near 57 now and a bit overweight. I still got my mind and talents. Bring it mother fuckers. Your last mistake is to think I am a liberal and untalented.
They never thought she would lose. Now they all lose.
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I have already had a few asking for masks. I've got a box of 30 and one chick asked for four! She didn't prep for her kids despite telling others to for years. She has already decided she and her kids will come to my house. I bet that is several others plan too, Im the camper who always preps for the hurricanes. I am prepping a little for others so they can not guilt me out of the good stuff. But I am not about to ty to feed anyone else besides my own kids for three months.
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My local grocery had a sale on canned pork and beans, 28 cents a can. I bought two cases as give away, I would have to be literally starving to put that in my mouth and swallow it, yuk. I also have much cheap Costco rice and 25# bags of cheap beans to parcel out. For under fifty dollars I am set up to not have to turn away a neighbor. It buys some time, anyway.
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One other thing is I talked with my next door neighbor & asked if the SHTF can I park my truck in your back yard (my yard is fenced)...he said no problem.

So with no truck in the driveway & I don't answer the door...they may think I'm not home.

Yet that may also entice somebody to try to break in & then I'd have to shoot them.
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I have already had a few asking for masks. I've got a box of 30 and one chick asked for four! She didn't prep for her kids despite telling others to for years. She has already decided she and her kids will come to my house. I bet that is several others plan too, Im the camper who always preps for the hurricanes. I am prepping a little for others so they can not guilt me out of the good stuff. But I am not about to ty to feed anyone else besides my own kids for three months.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78148933


My local grocery had a sale on canned pork and beans, 28 cents a can. I bought two cases as give away, I would have to be literally starving to put that in my mouth and swallow it, yuk. I also have much cheap Costco rice and 25# bags of cheap beans to parcel out. For under fifty dollars I am set up to not have to turn away a neighbor. It buys some time, anyway.
 Quoting: Windsage


You should have a garden too..
-Armchair General-

"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." -General of the Army Douglas MacArthur

"I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major General and during that period, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism." -Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC - 1933

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One other thing is I talked with my next door neighbor & asked if the SHTF can I park my truck in your back yard (my yard is fenced)...he said no problem.

So with no truck in the driveway & I don't answer the door...they may think I'm not home.

Yet that may also entice somebody to try to break in & then I'd have to shoot them.
 Quoting: Mental Case


If you plan it right, you will only need to use one round or so.. lol


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-Armchair General-

"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." -General of the Army Douglas MacArthur

"I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major General and during that period, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism." -Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC - 1933

Pronouns: Sir/General/That Bastard
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The 2 workable suggestions so far is say I'm infected or move.

Bear spray wont work because I wont open the door.

I don't think you guys appreciate how desperate people can get when watching their own children go hungry...They wont be rational!

There will be no "explaining" anything to them.

I believe some amount of pain will be required but I don't want to kill them.
 Quoting: Mental Case


I am five, five, and female. Back in the early 80's, I got down to 69 pounds. I looked like some skeleton from Africa. I am white.

I went to the food stamp office and was about laughed out of the office. I was told, I am white go get a JOB (by fat blacks) ! I was starving, literally.

I know true hunger. If I ever go there again, watch out. MF'ers, I am prepped and trained. I went in the Army a few years later (barely made the minimum weight), was the 6th female to pass EOD school. When I went to PLDC, led my squad and disabled all trips. Do not fuck with me. I know my shit.

I am near 57 now and a bit overweight. I still got my mind and talents. Bring it mother fuckers. Your last mistake is to think I am a liberal and untalented.
 Quoting: Maiya


I'm older but pretty well trained and armed myself. Got tired of worrying about my personal safety.... May you never go hungry again.
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I have already had a few asking for masks. I've got a box of 30 and one chick asked for four! She didn't prep for her kids despite telling others to for years. She has already decided she and her kids will come to my house. I bet that is several others plan too, Im the camper who always preps for the hurricanes. I am prepping a little for others so they can not guilt me out of the good stuff. But I am not about to ty to feed anyone else besides my own kids for three months.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78148933


My local grocery had a sale on canned pork and beans, 28 cents a can. I bought two cases as give away, I would have to be literally starving to put that in my mouth and swallow it, yuk. I also have much cheap Costco rice and 25# bags of cheap beans to parcel out. For under fifty dollars I am set up to not have to turn away a neighbor. It buys some time, anyway.
 Quoting: Windsage


You should have a garden too..
 Quoting: Armchair General


Oh, I do. I am also friends with a couple that have hundreds of acres in wheat each year, and most of the locals are serious hunters. Huge clean river runs right through town. I picked northern Idaho on purpose.
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I have already had a few asking for masks. I've got a box of 30 and one chick asked for four! She didn't prep for her kids despite telling others to for years. She has already decided she and her kids will come to my house. I bet that is several others plan too, Im the camper who always preps for the hurricanes. I am prepping a little for others so they can not guilt me out of the good stuff. But I am not about to ty to feed anyone else besides my own kids for three months.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78148933


My local grocery had a sale on canned pork and beans, 28 cents a can. I bought two cases as give away, I would have to be literally starving to put that in my mouth and swallow it, yuk. I also have much cheap Costco rice and 25# bags of cheap beans to parcel out. For under fifty dollars I am set up to not have to turn away a neighbor. It buys some time, anyway.
 Quoting: Windsage


You should have a garden too..
 Quoting: Armchair General


Oh, I do. I am also friends with a couple that have hundreds of acres in wheat each year, and most of the locals are serious hunters. Huge clean river runs right through town. I picked northern Idaho on purpose.
 Quoting: Windsage


Nice!!
-Armchair General-

"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation." -General of the Army Douglas MacArthur

"I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major General and during that period, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism." -Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC - 1933

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