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President Trump has already told us --- THE CARNIVAL IS OVER

 
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President Trump has already told us --- THE CARNIVAL IS OVER
Actions speak louder by far than words...

one of the most potent actions is the timing of an event.



President Trump is addressing us at 6 pm on Ash Wednesday.


Ash Wednesday is the day that Karneval, or Fasching, or Mardi Gras, is OVER. It marks the beginning of Lent.

no clearer day to send a message of trouble ahead. The rich times are gone, it is a different reality.

and the time of day?

6:00 pm is an unusual time to address the nation. Most people are on their way home from work, getting kids from the daycare, or worried about what to defrost for dinner.


in liturgical hours, 6 pm is Vespers..... in Southern Germany the evening meal is called Vesperbread.

Vespers is evening... sun going down... and its liturgical service begins with words of doom from Psalm 69, verse 2.
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here is the traditional End of Karneval song:

On Ash Wednesday it's all over....

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..."Vespers opens with the singing or chanting of the words Deus,
in adiutorium meum intende. Domine, ad adiuvandum me festina.
Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto. Sicut erat in
principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum. Amen.
Alleluia.

(O God, come to my assistance. O Lord, make haste to help me.
Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever.
Amen. Alleluia.) ("Alleluia" is omitted during Lent.)"...


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Psalm 69:2 King James Version (KJV)

2 I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the floods overflow me.

these are some of the opening words of the Vespers service....

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..."Vespers opens with the singing or chanting of the words Deus,
in adiutorium meum intende. Domine, ad adiuvandum me festina.
Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto. Sicut erat in
principio, et nunc et semper, et in saecula saeculorum. Amen.
Alleluia.

(O God, come to my assistance. O Lord, make haste to help me.
Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever.
Amen. Alleluia.) ("Alleluia" is omitted during Lent.)"...


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Wow.



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haunting song....

this as well, the late singer Alexandra's Maskenball, or Masquerade.
The 3 wild days of revelry before the beginning of Lent - Karneval - is one big masquerade ball the size of a city....

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Interesting.

Ash

Wednesday.
Some Will. Some won't. So.......
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whatever he says, we know


the message is NOT good.



I told a friend at our hardware store that President Trump would be taking about the virus at 6 pm tonight - he shook his head, like game over...

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Interesting.

Ash

Wednesday.
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and precisely at the beginning of Lent.

are you aware of the meaning of ashes in the nursery rhyme

ring around the rosy?

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I expect President Trump will be calming in his words,
so as not to spook the herd.

However, he is giving us the "word" through his timing.

He that hath eyes to see...

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Interesting.

Ash

Wednesday.
 Quoting: SyncAsFunk


and precisely at the beginning of Lent.

are you aware of the meaning of ashes in the nursery rhyme

ring around the rosy?
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I am.

Very nice connect.

PEOPLE are catching on
Some Will. Some won't. So.......
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I expect President Trump will be calming in his words,
so as not to spook the herd.

However, he is giving us the "word" through his timing.

He that hath eyes to see...

3dchess
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and a match to light the seen with!


ring around the rosy

pocket full of posies

ashes ashes we all fall down!


this is about a plague
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good catch
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The end of Festivities, Carnival.

Now comes time of deprivation, lean times.

No Carne...

The herd will spook soon, I suspect.

Wonder what the trigger will be?
They won't get his clue of timing.


When it happens, dey gonna panic, I betcha.

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they always called him carnaval barker
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You really have a hard-on for doom.
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conflicting theories about the meaning of this rhyme


here goes wiki:

In 1898, A Dictionary of British Folklore contained the belief that an explanation of the game was of pagan origin, based on the Sheffield Glossary comparison of Jacob Grimm's Deutsche Mythologie. The theory states that it is in reference to Pagan myths and cited a passage which states, "Gifted children of fortune have the power to laugh roses, as Freyja wept gold." It claimed the first instance to be indicative of pagan beings of light. Another suggestion is more literal, that it was making a "ring" around the roses and bowing with the "all fall down" as a curtsy.[21] In 1892, the American writer, Eugene Field wrote a poem titled Teeny-Weeny that specifically referred to fey folk playing ring-a-rosie.[22]

According to Games and Songs of American Children, published in 1883, the "rosie" was a reference to the French word for rose tree and the children would dance and stoop to the person in the center.[2] Variations, especially more literal ones, were identified and noted with the literal falling down that would sever the connections to the game-rhyme. Again in 1898, sneezing was then noted to be indicative of many superstitious and supernatural beliefs across differing cultures.[21]

The Great Plague explanation of the mid-20th century[edit]

Since after the Second World War, the rhyme has often been associated with the Great Plague which happened in England in 1665, or with earlier outbreaks of the Black Death in England. Interpreters of the rhyme before World War II make no mention of this; by 1951, however, it seems to have become well established as an explanation for the form of the rhyme that had become standard in the United Kingdom. Peter and Iona Opie, the leading authorities on nursery rhymes, remarked:


The invariable sneezing and falling down in modern English versions have given would-be origin finders the opportunity to say that the rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, and posies of herbs were carried as protection and to ward off the smell of the disease. Sneezing or coughing was a final fatal symptom, and "all fall down" was exactly what happened.

The line Ashes, Ashes in colonial versions of the rhyme is claimed to refer variously to cremation of the bodies, the burning of victims' houses, or blackening of their skin, and the theory has been adapted to be applied to other versions of the rhyme. In its various forms, the interpretation has entered into popular culture and has been used elsewhere to make oblique reference to the plague.


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You really have a hard-on for doom.
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hardly
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good catch
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thanks pal
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Six pm - this is for the GLP crowd, second shift
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right op, good Jesuit training he had
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Six pm - this is for the GLP crowd, second shift
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right op, good Jesuit training he had
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I didn't, did you?

still would time it this way to get aware observers ready
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7-20 stars
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vatican orders ..
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very to the point!

I see you edited that post, thanks for the stars!


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tell us more
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tell us more
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I wish I could.... I don't know much more than the average Joe or Jane

I do have experience with several contagious diseases in a clinical setting, but this is not that.


back when AIDS was GRID and you handled needles used to give insulin to people dying of AIDS casually.......
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GRID
Gay Related Immune Disorder
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