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Anonymer Feigling
User ID: 78537630 Germany 02/28/2020 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SILVER SPRING, Md., Feb. 27, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- As I have previously communicated, the FDA has been closely monitoring the supply chain with the expectation that the COVID-19 outbreak would likely impact the medical product supply chain, including potential disruptions to supply or shortages of critical medical products in the U.S. Quoting: Waar maker [link to news.yahoo.com (secure)] It is happening China sent the Military in and Nationalized 3M. All products will only be sold to china including all medical related products. Thats what the german health minister said yesterday. It the shit hits the fan there could be a law to forbid to sell medical products outside of germany or even nationalising companies. Emotion beats reason Don't let it be that way |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78480962 Spain 02/28/2020 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SILVER SPRING, Md., Feb. 27, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- As I have previously communicated, the FDA has been closely monitoring the supply chain with the expectation that the COVID-19 outbreak would likely impact the medical product supply chain, including potential disruptions to supply or shortages of critical medical products in the U.S. Quoting: Waar maker [link to news.yahoo.com (secure)] It is happening China sent the Military in and Nationalized 3M. All products will only be sold to china including all medical related products. Thats what the german health minister said yesterday. It the shit hits the fan there could be a law to forbid to sell medical products outside of germany or even nationalising companies. ...and that is doom not even Hollywood could have thought of. |
MacPPCRO
User ID: 75143936 United States 02/28/2020 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife phoned me this morning said she had bad news. Her company is closing down. They are fully reliant on China for their product supply and due to a halt in production they can no longer get product to sell. Quoting: Waar maker They also had clients cancel contracts with them out of fear of receiving contaminated product. Funny thing is there is not a single case of COVID19 in sub equatorial Africa. New COVID19 symptoms now also include los of employment. ARE YOU KIDDING? Cause this is the dumbest bunch of BULLSHIT TODAY! OH BY THE WAY! I was cured! LMFOAO MacPPCRO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78500114 United States 02/28/2020 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The world can't stand on the legs of any one country, that the antithesis of what a a free world wants. There has to be true Free trade, not just one dominant country making everything, and mostly very badly! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78480962 Spain 02/28/2020 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are the ones who created China with new deals and trade. They got to big for their britches, and their kids way to obnoxious with their 6 million dollars super cars. There are other countries that manufacture. They are thrilled to have a shot to step up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78500114 The world can't stand on the legs of any one country, that the antithesis of what a a free world wants. There has to be true Free trade, not just one dominant country making everything, and mostly very badly! You take your business to where it is most beneficial to your bottom line - capitalism 101. You are right that we created the market. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40738770 Canada 02/28/2020 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife phoned me this morning said she had bad news. Her company is closing down. They are fully reliant on China for their product supply and due to a halt in production they can no longer get product to sell. Quoting: Waar maker They also had clients cancel contracts with them out of fear of receiving contaminated product. Funny thing is there is not a single case of COVID19 in sub equatorial Africa. New COVID19 symptoms now also include los of employment. HUGE REALITY OF MAJOR DEPRESSION LIKE NOTHING EVER SEEN IN HISTORY! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42125214 United States 02/28/2020 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are the ones who created China with new deals and trade. They got to big for their britches, and their kids way to obnoxious with their 6 million dollars super cars. There are other countries that manufacture. They are thrilled to have a shot to step up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78500114 The world can't stand on the legs of any one country, that the antithesis of what a a free world wants. There has to be true Free trade, not just one dominant country making everything, and mostly very badly! You take your business to where it is most beneficial to your bottom line - capitalism 101. You are right that we created the market. Plenty of people fought NAFTA, hence the widespread support for Ross Perot. These trade agreements are shoved through regardless of the populace's opinion. "We" would refer to the globalists, not ordinary citizens. |
nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States 02/28/2020 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife phoned me this morning said she had bad news. Her company is closing down. They are fully reliant on China for their product supply and due to a halt in production they can no longer get product to sell. Quoting: Waar maker They also had clients cancel contracts with them out of fear of receiving contaminated product. Funny thing is there is not a single case of COVID19 in sub equatorial Africa. New COVID19 symptoms now also include los of employment. I assumed it would close many businesses everywhere. It's awful. Too many of our corporations are in China. Since a candidate, our president has said the same. He should have been our president 20 years ago. We wouldn't be in this predicament. American & International Corporations In China- [link to www.jiesworld.com] |
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justavet
User ID: 77457813 United States 02/28/2020 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MY son works for a large international service firm (you would know the name in an instant), with offices around the globe, the company realized the supply issue weeks ago. They have had their people working for 3 weeks to help clients realign their supply chain. As early as two weeks ago, he said that, if this continues, it just will be beyond what can be replaced or realigned with many companies taking years, if ever, to recover. A prolong shutdown of the worlds industries will have a catastrophic effect on standards of living everywhere for months. justavet In the end, our regrets are for what we didn't do, not for what we did. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77052872 South Africa 02/28/2020 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're closing down permanently? Quoting: KonspiracyKitty That's what I understood from the OP; and if that's true that's very odd. You would think that if a REALLY bad temporary shortage from suppliers completely PARALYZED a company that they might do some layoffs, or even temporarily lay off 90% of their workforce...but unless told otherwise any business-owner types I've met would assume either the shortage will eventually go away or they can find another supplier. It sounds like somebody got news that 'yep the entire x industry is basically collapsing and is never coming back. So no need to even wait and see what happens; the outcome is written in stone and we're fucked.' Scary. It is medical related product. there is very little hope for improvement in the short term as the recovery is dependant on the eradication of COVID19. This is why we see panic driven trading on the stock markets, Investors have no confidence in short term recovery possibilities and are desperately looking for safer havens to invest their money. Chine is the worlds factory and they are on a shut down trajectory. Where in SA you from bro? |
Waar maker
(OP) User ID: 78529038 South Africa 02/28/2020 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're closing down permanently? Quoting: KonspiracyKitty That's what I understood from the OP; and if that's true that's very odd. You would think that if a REALLY bad temporary shortage from suppliers completely PARALYZED a company that they might do some layoffs, or even temporarily lay off 90% of their workforce...but unless told otherwise any business-owner types I've met would assume either the shortage will eventually go away or they can find another supplier. It sounds like somebody got news that 'yep the entire x industry is basically collapsing and is never coming back. So no need to even wait and see what happens; the outcome is written in stone and we're fucked.' Scary. It is medical related product. there is very little hope for improvement in the short term as the recovery is dependant on the eradication of COVID19. This is why we see panic driven trading on the stock markets, Investors have no confidence in short term recovery possibilities and are desperately looking for safer havens to invest their money. Chine is the worlds factory and they are on a shut down trajectory. Where in SA you from bro? `Gauteng Province Johannesburg area They Kingdom come They will be done on earth as it is in heaven. |
Waar maker
(OP) User ID: 78529038 South Africa 02/28/2020 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife phoned me this morning said she had bad news. Her company is closing down. They are fully reliant on China for their product supply and due to a halt in production they can no longer get product to sell. Quoting: Waar maker They also had clients cancel contracts with them out of fear of receiving contaminated product. Funny thing is there is not a single case of COVID19 in sub equatorial Africa. New COVID19 symptoms now also include los of employment. ARE YOU KIDDING? Cause this is the dumbest bunch of BULLSHIT TODAY! OH BY THE WAY! I was cured! LMFOAO WTF Dude som respect please this real you a hole They Kingdom come They will be done on earth as it is in heaven. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 02/28/2020 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're closing down permanently? Quoting: KonspiracyKitty That's what I understood from the OP; and if that's true that's very odd. You would think that if a REALLY bad temporary shortage from suppliers completely PARALYZED a company that they might do some layoffs, or even temporarily lay off 90% of their workforce...but unless told otherwise any business-owner types I've met would assume either the shortage will eventually go away or they can find another supplier. It sounds like somebody got news that 'yep the entire x industry is basically collapsing and is never coming back. So no need to even wait and see what happens; the outcome is written in stone and we're fucked.' Scary. It is medical related product. there is very little hope for improvement in the short term as the recovery is dependant on the eradication of COVID19. This is why we see panic driven trading on the stock markets, Investors have no confidence in short term recovery possibilities and are desperately looking for safer havens to invest their money. Chine is the worlds factory and they are on a shut down trajectory. It was so crazy of people to put most their eggs in one basket. That should never happen again. |
Waar maker
(OP) User ID: 78529038 South Africa 02/28/2020 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Salesman are no longer required, because people can buy directly from a manufacturer in China. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77092934 If you not produce anything you are human waste. True for consumer goods but not for business to business products, especially for medical consumables. By the time you have a full pubis you will understand. They Kingdom come They will be done on earth as it is in heaven. |
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nutmeg
User ID: 76388104 United States 02/28/2020 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are the ones who created China with new deals and trade. They got to big for their britches, and their kids way to obnoxious with their 6 million dollars super cars. There are other countries that manufacture. They are thrilled to have a shot to step up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78500114 The world can't stand on the legs of any one country, that the antithesis of what a a free world wants. There has to be true Free trade, not just one dominant country making everything, and mostly very badly! My grandson is a graduate student at a well known college 1500 miles away from home. Luxury stores and luxury auto dealerships in the area. When he was a sophomore, living in a dorm, my daughter had his Audi transported to him. One day I asked him where he parks his car so the doors don't get dents....obviously in parking lots on campus along with hundreds of other cars. He laughed and said he parks it in an indoor garage next to the most expensive cars he could find. He said, "They're not Audi's. They are much more expensive. The Chinese own the most expensive cars!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76258609 United States 02/28/2020 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to become an American only company.... this adjustment has been coming for years... get off the made in China train...get on the Made in the USA train... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76315989 Harder than you think. Even most American companies who produce their own product do it with at least SOME parts/ingredients/precursors that are sourced from China. Those "made in America" clothes? Wanna bet some or all of the fabric was produced in China? Even if the fabric was woven here, where did the raw fiber come from to weave the fabric? Probably China. Or the bulk synthetic that the fiber was produced from? China. Cut out one... just one... of these links and that "American" production line shuts down. Many will say "well just buy American fiber/parts/ingredients"! Easier said than done. How fast can the domestic maker of such things ramp up on short notice? I have worked in a production plant and have learned some of the realities of the marketplace. You can only run your line 3 shifts a day (provided you have adequate trained and experienced people). To expand beyond that takes adding a line and getting people to run it... both of which cost money. Now, if it was going to be a long term thing (10+ years) it might be worth getting a business loan to build that line and a building to house it and train people to run it. But if you have reason to think that in 6 months or a year cheap Chinese imports will flood the market again, when they do, you're going to lose your shirt along with any investors who funded your expansion. That's the hard cold reality of the marketplace boys and girls. We learned this during the Obama-era ammo shortage didn't we? That in the real world, production cannot be infinitely elastic in response to temporary circumstances? And elementary economics teaches us the law of supply & demand... shortages induce price hikes. Basic 101 level stuff, yet amazing how few people actually get it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71031421 United States 02/28/2020 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife phoned me this morning said she had bad news. Her company is closing down. They are fully reliant on China for their product supply and due to a halt in production they can no longer get product to sell. Quoting: Waar maker They also had clients cancel contracts with them out of fear of receiving contaminated product. Funny thing is there is not a single case of COVID19 in sub equatorial Africa. New COVID19 symptoms now also include los of employment. not only that you will be put on a list and spied on I'm glad I went to work, i think I have corona virus my lungs sound weird Everytime I breathe and I keep spitting out yellow stuff [link to nypost.com (secure)] Spy agencies in the U.S. are monitoring the spread of coronavirus across the world as officials grapple with concerns over the country’s ability to handle a widespread outbreak. A source told the outlet that U.S. agencies would use various intelligence tools, ranging from undercover informants to electronic eavesdropping tools, to track the impact of the virus. |
Nagabonar666
User ID: 78539859 Indonesia 02/28/2020 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife phoned me this morning said she had bad news. Her company is closing down. They are fully reliant on China for their product supply and due to a halt in production they can no longer get product to sell. Quoting: Waar maker They also had clients cancel contracts with them out of fear of receiving contaminated product. Funny thing is there is not a single case of COVID19 in sub equatorial Africa. New COVID19 symptoms now also include los of employment. Sorry for your loss... Airlines, travel agencies, tour operators, even hotels have been downsizing and closing down across south east asia since the beginning of this month. |
Waar maker
(OP) User ID: 78529038 South Africa 02/28/2020 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time to become an American only company.... this adjustment has been coming for years... get off the made in China train...get on the Made in the USA train... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76315989 Harder than you think. Even most American companies who produce their own product do it with at least SOME parts/ingredients/precursors that are sourced from China. Those "made in America" clothes? Wanna bet some or all of the fabric was produced in China? Even if the fabric was woven here, where did the raw fiber come from to weave the fabric? Probably China. Or the bulk synthetic that the fiber was produced from? China. Cut out one... just one... of these links and that "American" production line shuts down. Many will say "well just buy American fiber/parts/ingredients"! Easier said than done. How fast can the domestic maker of such things ramp up on short notice? I have worked in a production plant and have learned some of the realities of the marketplace. You can only run your line 3 shifts a day (provided you have adequate trained and experienced people). To expand beyond that takes adding a line and getting people to run it... both of which cost money. Now, if it was going to be a long term thing (10+ years) it might be worth getting a business loan to build that line and a building to house it and train people to run it. But if you have reason to think that in 6 months or a year cheap Chinese imports will flood the market again, when they do, you're going to lose your shirt along with any investors who funded your expansion. That's the hard cold reality of the marketplace boys and girls. We learned this during the Obama-era ammo shortage didn't we? That in the real world, production cannot be infinitely elastic in response to temporary circumstances? And elementary economics teaches us the law of supply & demand... shortages induce price hikes. Basic 101 level stuff, yet amazing how few people actually get it. This, well said nice contribution . They Kingdom come They will be done on earth as it is in heaven. |
ADEND User ID: 63079051 United States 02/28/2020 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're closing down permanently? Quoting: KonspiracyKitty That's what I understood from the OP; and if that's true that's very odd. You would think that if a REALLY bad temporary shortage from suppliers completely PARALYZED a company that they might do some layoffs, or even temporarily lay off 90% of their workforce...but unless told otherwise any business-owner types I've met would assume either the shortage will eventually go away or they can find another supplier. It also seems they're calling it pretty early; two or three weeks max after serious shutdowns in China and they're already bowing out? Couldn't stick it out any longer than a few weeks? It sounds like somebody got news that 'yep the entire x industry is basically collapsing and is never coming back. So no need to even wait and see what happens; the outcome is written in stone and we're fucked.' Scary. Not odd at all. I have worked in and been a part owner in several small businesses. Even when we had 60+ employees we only brought a couple percent of sales to the bottom profit line each year. We were forced by landlords into 3-10 year leases if we wanted good space (I guess we could have declined and moved to China?). Our product financing was under terms we would lose our ability to keep inventory if our accounts receivable aged beyond an average of 60 days or our inventory turns significantly dropped. So in a situation like this you would just know your landlord and finance company are taking everything and you would walk. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78436151 United States 02/28/2020 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to news.yahoo.com (secure)] It is happening" A 1950's "Emergency" law can be used to make U.S. manufacturers under contract to the U.S. government to supply NEEDED items before they manufacture products NOT NEEDED by the Government. 3M -Masks, and any other company under contract. If we don't get what the Goobermunt NEEDS the Pres. can "Jawbone" call ANY company up and Convince them to produce the NEEDED PROCUCTS... ! We do have: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] It's 2019 budget was $2.2 Billion-they have millions of doses of antibiotics, anti-viral, and medical supplies. [link to www.phe.gov (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78466000 United Kingdom 02/28/2020 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife phoned me this morning said she had bad news. Her company is closing down. They are fully reliant on China for their product supply and due to a halt in production they can no longer get product to sell. Quoting: Waar maker They also had clients cancel contracts with them out of fear of receiving contaminated product. Funny thing is there is not a single case of COVID19 in sub equatorial Africa. New COVID19 symptoms now also include los of employment. As a fellow saffer I was thinking the exact same thing just the other day, no reported cases in South Africa.....TIA hey.. |
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