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Does Humankind Need the Coronavirus?

 
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Do you agree? Does humanity need the coronavirus?
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There are procedural methods of dealing with the issues you discussed. If human rights needed to be violated, there would certainly be less destructive ways of approaching it.
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Do you agree? Does humanity need the coronavirus?
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There are procedural methods of dealing with the issues you discussed. If human rights needed to be violated, there would certainly be less destructive ways of approaching it.
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Do you agree? Does humanity need the coronavirus?
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There are procedural methods of dealing with the issues you discussed. If human rights needed to be violated, there would certainly be less destructive ways of approaching it.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


What procedural methods?

What has worked?

So far, nothing has worked.
 Quoting: TheAnomoly


Every time some liberal arts discipline has pretended to be a STEM field, with graphs, indexes, pie charts, and projections, you mean?
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There are procedural methods of dealing with the issues you discussed. If human rights needed to be violated, there would certainly be less destructive ways of approaching it.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


What procedural methods?

What has worked?

So far, nothing has worked.
 Quoting: TheAnomoly


Every time some liberal arts discipline has pretended to be a STEM field, with graphs, indexes, pie charts, and projections, you mean?
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


I'm not sure what you mean by this.
 Quoting: TheAnomoly


What I mean is that instead of the death penalty and the workhouse, which both kept established (because these things aren't predictable) criminals from reproducing or at least reduced their status, we then establish eugenics and abortion randomly killing the 'unfit' due to characteristics which someone basically drew out of a hat. The procedural element--the law and its penalties--has been made 'humane,' but the burden of the societal effects of this are foisted onto another, innocent party. The criteria for whether this party lives or dies follow no consistent or testable rules, but lend themselves to a purely statistical reality well enough.

That's what I mean. Your justification is similar. These effects are all the result of bad governance, corporate law-breaking, corruption, bribery, etc. A very small group of people. The virus 'solves' the problem, by attaching the costs of this behavior to someone at any rate, then making them the poster-child for whatever new, failed, loophole-ridden scheme was predesigned to handle it. Great.
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What procedural methods?

What has worked?

So far, nothing has worked.
 Quoting: TheAnomoly


Every time some liberal arts discipline has pretended to be a STEM field, with graphs, indexes, pie charts, and projections, you mean?
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


I'm not sure what you mean by this.
 Quoting: TheAnomoly


What I mean is that instead of the death penalty and the workhouse, which both kept established (because these things aren't predictable) criminals from reproducing or at least reduced their status, we then establish eugenics and abortion randomly killing the 'unfit' due to characteristics which someone basically drew out of a hat. The procedural element--the law and its penalties--has been made 'humane,' but the burden of the societal effects of this are foisted onto another, innocent party. The criteria for whether this party lives or dies follow no consistent or testable rules, but lend themselves to a purely statistical reality well enough.

That's what I mean. Your justification is similar. These effects are all the result of bad governance, corporate law-breaking, corruption, bribery, etc. A very small group of people. The virus 'solves' the problem, by attaching the costs of this behavior to someone at any rate, then making them the poster-child for whatever new, failed, loophole-ridden scheme was predesigned to handle it. Great.
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Every time some liberal arts discipline has pretended to be a STEM field, with graphs, indexes, pie charts, and projections, you mean?
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


I'm not sure what you mean by this.
 Quoting: TheAnomoly


What I mean is that instead of the death penalty and the workhouse, which both kept established (because these things aren't predictable) criminals from reproducing or at least reduced their status, we then establish eugenics and abortion randomly killing the 'unfit' due to characteristics which someone basically drew out of a hat. The procedural element--the law and its penalties--has been made 'humane,' but the burden of the societal effects of this are foisted onto another, innocent party. The criteria for whether this party lives or dies follow no consistent or testable rules, but lend themselves to a purely statistical reality well enough.

That's what I mean. Your justification is similar. These effects are all the result of bad governance, corporate law-breaking, corruption, bribery, etc. A very small group of people. The virus 'solves' the problem, by attaching the costs of this behavior to someone at any rate, then making them the poster-child for whatever new, failed, loophole-ridden scheme was predesigned to handle it. Great.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


So if the government was better, there would be less pollution, trash, population excess, etc.? If government were better we wouldn't need coronavirus for humanity to survive?yoda
 Quoting: TheAnomoly


Intentional solution to an avoidable problem, likely foreseen far ahead of time.
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I'm not sure what you mean by this.
 Quoting: TheAnomoly


What I mean is that instead of the death penalty and the workhouse, which both kept established (because these things aren't predictable) criminals from reproducing or at least reduced their status, we then establish eugenics and abortion randomly killing the 'unfit' due to characteristics which someone basically drew out of a hat. The procedural element--the law and its penalties--has been made 'humane,' but the burden of the societal effects of this are foisted onto another, innocent party. The criteria for whether this party lives or dies follow no consistent or testable rules, but lend themselves to a purely statistical reality well enough.

That's what I mean. Your justification is similar. These effects are all the result of bad governance, corporate law-breaking, corruption, bribery, etc. A very small group of people. The virus 'solves' the problem, by attaching the costs of this behavior to someone at any rate, then making them the poster-child for whatever new, failed, loophole-ridden scheme was predesigned to handle it. Great.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot


So if the government was better, there would be less pollution, trash, population excess, etc.? If government were better we wouldn't need coronavirus for humanity to survive?yoda
 Quoting: TheAnomoly


Intentional solution to an avoidable problem, likely foreseen far ahead of time.
 Quoting: Mr. Robot





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