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Transformation First... Then 30 days later The Rapture...And The Revelation 12 sign in 3 Minutes!!

 
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Rod, the pre trib rapture is a deception. Jesus clearly says in Matthew 24 that He will return after the tribulation. Look closely at verse 29

Matthew 24

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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Just asking those who care to think this over, what if none of what we believe about the end times come about the way we have thought.

Doctrines are best seen in hindsight.

Of course we believe the ones that cannot be contested, Jesus born of a virgin, died and rose again.

But I'm talking about end times, Daniel and the book of revelation.

 Quoting: rod777


Prophecy is only rightly understood after it has been fulfilled.
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so true
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Rod, the pre trib rapture is a deception. Jesus clearly says in Matthew 24 that He will return after the tribulation. Look closely at verse 29

Matthew 24

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 Quoting: regenerated




I don't really have an opinion, nor do I really care when the rapture occurs.

If God were to say to me, it's pre, it's post, it's pre-wrath, it's mid...I would say "OK"...

I really don't care, doctrines and denominations are not what I care about.

BUT I think it will be a more supernatural even, in a natural setting than we think.
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What happens IF you find out your church has been preaching from their mind, and not from revelation by the spirit.
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Here ya go.
Thread: Don't be fooled by the deceived again: the bible states when the rapture shall occur
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Friend the phrase last day, does not mean "This is the very last day and their will not a be a single day after this day".
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1 Thessalonians 4:16

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.



OK The Clouds are people...No where does this say they leave the earthy realm.
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1 Thessalonians 4:16

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.



OK The Clouds are people...No where does this say they leave the earthy realm.

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I contend all these things happen in our midst, it lasts for 30-40 days, the dead in Christ that have returned also stay for the 40 days...Then they leave with the lord, and go into the air.
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When was the last time God did anything the way men / preachers thought he would?

Hal Lindsey?
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Try this one. This us part one if 2. You can find the others. Most find this boring but I am very intrigued. Enjoy :)
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Try this one. This us part one if 2. You can find the others. Most find this boring but I am very intrigued. Enjoy :)
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Ok thanks will look it over.





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