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TRAGIC: Italian Doctors Treating Coronavirus Told To Discriminate Against Elderly Patients: They “Will be Left to Die”

 
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TRAGIC: Italian Doctors Treating Coronavirus Told To Discriminate Against Elderly Patients: They “Will be Left to Die”
Doctors Treating Coronavirus Told to Discriminate Against Elderly Patients: They “Will be Left to Die”

By Steven Ertelt
March 12, 2020 - 1:00 PM
Rome, Italy


The world is in a state of paranoia currently as nations try to combat the spread and effect of the coronavirus. Italy is facing the worst of the crisis right now and its medical system has descended into a state of chaos, according to news reports about the situation there.

One doctor who is treating patients there likened the situation to treating patients in a battlefield, like Vietnam or the aftermath of the attacks on Pearl Harbor and having to make split-second decisions on which patients will be treated and which ones will be denied care after a quick triage.

Shockingly, the same anti-life rationing ethic that is pervading medicine nowadays when it comes to the promotion of euthanasia and assisted suicide has taken hold in Italy, as elderly and disabled patients face discrimination because they are not young and healthy.

And one news report indicates an Italian medical college has issued shocking guidelines to doctors and medical professionals telling them to just let elderly patients die. As The Atlantic reports:

Those who are too old to have a high likelihood of recovery, or who have too low a number of “life-years” left even if they should survive, will be left to die. This sounds cruel, but the alternative, the document argues, is no better. “In case of a total saturation of resources, maintaining the criterion of ‘first come, first served’ would amount to a decision to exclude late-arriving patients from access to intensive care.”

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yep... that's trumpcare health care in America


Obama care was much better, they were leaving grandma and grandpa to die
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Quoting Rahm Emanuel, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."

Killing off everyone over 55 not only solves the social security problem, but the pension crisis as well.
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makes sense. poor boomahs
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Leave the elderly to die that way the death toll climbs and Trump 2020 bid pays. Left murders babies why not the elderly.

SICK FUCKS
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yep... that's trumpcare health care in America


Obama care was much better, they were leaving grandma and grandpa to die
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Can you read?

That is happening in Italy!
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I know there’s not a lot else that they can do when they are being totally overwhelmed, but that’s just so fucked up to me.

As someone with pretty bad anxiety, I have to have a plan for everything...literally everything...or my anxiety is too much to deal with.

The assholes in charge should be the same fuckin way.

Plans to deal with this kind of situation should have been handled long ago.

Stockpiles should have happened with rotating inventory.

Factories, food storage for the entire country, and stockpiles of medical supplies is something that we should still have here.

That’s why we give them our hard earned money.

Not to line their pockets and be our overlords.

To organize and plan, and to lead.

Self serving idiots.

The virus MAY not be their fault, but their stupid lack of preparation is. These deaths are on them.

Idiots.
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yep... that's trumpcare health care in America


Obama care was much better, they were leaving grandma and grandpa to die
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Trump isn't letting that happen here....what're you talking about?

Now Obama said maybe gma and gpa should just take the pill.


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culling of the elderly, does it surprise you?
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Why would a doctor work to save a 30 year old "Joe Broke" when "Old Man Got Rocks" can pay him well?
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Quoting Rahm Emanuel, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."

Killing off everyone over 55 not only solves the social security problem, but the pension crisis as well.
 Quoting: vEyeSea


Yep

THIS
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Quoting Rahm Emanuel, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."

Killing off everyone over 55 not only solves the social security problem, but the pension crisis as well.
 Quoting: vEyeSea



^^^^THIS and Rahm's brother has no use for treating the elderly either, as he blatantly stated. I'm sure that doesn't apply to his parents though.

This is just another holocaust in my opinion for $$$$$
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Dont be ignorant
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Soylent Green is people.

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That shit wont fly in the US...

You can't discriminate on certain things, and one of them is age.

Sure, the one that dies might not see a dime, but the family would sue the shit out of the hospital if they could show they wouldn't help them based only one their age.

CONSTITUTION!
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the head guy of HHS Alex Azar was on Hannity tonight and he said something like yes we have huge emergency medical set-ups ready to go just like those MASH units and will treat the patients that can be cured.

'Will treat the patients that can be cured'

Say what?
That Just Ain't Rite.
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Remember, Hillary wanted to get rid of the elderly, too. So, let's hope she gets it and so does that evil fucker, George Soros. They all deserve to die off. They're elderly, too. Bye, bitches.
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Italy has socialized medicine.

Italy's health care system is a regionally based national health service that provides universal coverage largely free of charge at the point of delivery. The main source of financing is national and regional taxes, supplemented by copayments for pharmaceuticals and outpatient care.

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That shit wont fly in the US...

You can't discriminate on certain things, and one of them is age.

Sure, the one that dies might not see a dime, but the family would sue the shit out of the hospital if they could show they wouldn't help them based only one their age.

CONSTITUTION!
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Where in the constitution does it say anything about age discrimination. I think you are referring to an employment law. Nope not in the constitution or bill of rights. Scary thought but they will justify it as for the greater good. Oh and all a triage hospitalist has to do is justify why patient a had a better chance of recovery than b. Hate to say it but when resources are limited they go solely on chance of recovery. Happens everyday. I worked in an ED and when a 20 year old with a gunshot wound showed up the same time as a 80 year old stroke victim personnel went straight to the 20 year old and if there was time after got to the stroke.
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too_sad... that’s so sad!


My friend is a nurse, I messaged her but she didn’t even open her Facebook messenger. She lives in Savona.
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That shit wont fly in the US...

You can't discriminate on certain things, and one of them is age.

Sure, the one that dies might not see a dime, but the family would sue the shit out of the hospital if they could show they wouldn't help them based only one their age.

CONSTITUTION!
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iamwith
Unless someone(baby fetus)is under a certain age(birth)then its open season(abortion)

Abortion clinics to the left of me, euthanasia elderly villages to the right.....you now the drill.....5aburnit:vlwc:
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breaking news...we weren't sure that love was dead on this planet yet, but now we know for sure.
Good Luck, medical and all other people.
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They’ll be left to recover on their own?? Scary!!
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Re: TRAGIC: Italian Doctors Treating Coronavirus Told To Discriminate Against Elderly Patients: They “Will be Left to Die”
Doctors Treating Coronavirus Told to Discriminate Against Elderly Patients: They “Will be Left to Die”

By Steven Ertelt
March 12, 2020 - 1:00 PM
Rome, Italy


The world is in a state of paranoia currently as nations try to combat the spread and effect of the coronavirus. Italy is facing the worst of the crisis right now and its medical system has descended into a state of chaos, according to news reports about the situation there.

One doctor who is treating patients there likened the situation to treating patients in a battlefield, like Vietnam or the aftermath of the attacks on Pearl Harbor and having to make split-second decisions on which patients will be treated and which ones will be denied care after a quick triage.

Shockingly, the same anti-life rationing ethic that is pervading medicine nowadays when it comes to the promotion of euthanasia and assisted suicide has taken hold in Italy, as elderly and disabled patients face discrimination because they are not young and healthy.

And one news report indicates an Italian medical college has issued shocking guidelines to doctors and medical professionals telling them to just let elderly patients die. As The Atlantic reports:

Those who are too old to have a high likelihood of recovery, or who have too low a number of “life-years” left even if they should survive, will be left to die. This sounds cruel, but the alternative, the document argues, is no better. “In case of a total saturation of resources, maintaining the criterion of ‘first come, first served’ would amount to a decision to exclude late-arriving patients from access to intensive care.”

CONTINUED AT:
[link to www.lifenews.com (secure)]
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Italy death panels, too old let them die.

These people are sick.
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culling of the elderly, does it surprise you?
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Elders are the only ones that need the ICU, and they're the ones with the wisdom and knowledge from the previous saeculum. Elders need to be revered.
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That shit wont fly in the US...

You can't discriminate on certain things, and one of them is age.

Sure, the one that dies might not see a dime, but the family would sue the shit out of the hospital if they could show they wouldn't help them based only one their age.

CONSTITUTION!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24499233


Where in the constitution does it say anything about age discrimination. I think you are referring to an employment law. Nope not in the constitution or bill of rights. Scary thought but they will justify it as for the greater good. Oh and all a triage hospitalist has to do is justify why patient a had a better chance of recovery than b. Hate to say it but when resources are limited they go solely on chance of recovery. Happens everyday. I worked in an ED and when a 20 year old with a gunshot wound showed up the same time as a 80 year old stroke victim personnel went straight to the 20 year old and if there was time after got to the stroke.
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Of course! If the elder had good vitals and the youth was bleeding out, the choice is obvious. Both will survive. Strokes need quick attention, but a severe gunshot needs immediate attention or he'll be dead.

Of course, if the youth was a thug, they made the wrong choice.

I have no idea of the rules in ginzoland.
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Quoting Rahm Emanuel, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."

Killing off everyone over 55 not only solves the social security problem, but the pension crisis as well.
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:money:

Man, that's cold, that is.
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If I go and need help (older, kids grown, no dependents) and get there first and they can only save one person they better well save my ass before the father with 3 young kids who comes in 5 minutes later!!

I was first!!
I am a Baby People far more intelligent than millennials!!
I DESERVE to be saved!!

Let the guy who got there 5 minutes later DIE and let those kids grow up withOUT a dad.

I was there FIRST!!!! BY GOD!! As a Baby People far more intelligent than millennials IT IS MY RIGHT!!
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If I go and need help (older, kids grown, no dependents) and get there first and they can only save one person they better well save my ass before the father with 3 young kids who comes in 5 minutes later!!

I was first!!
I am a Baby People far more intelligent than millennials!!
I DESERVE to be saved!!

Let the guy who got there 5 minutes later DIE and let those kids grow up withOUT a dad.

I was there FIRST!!!! BY GOD!! As a Baby People far more intelligent than millennials IT IS MY RIGHT!!
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for some reason the site software changed the word "People far more intelligent than millennials" to "people" when it posted my post ... have no idea why
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site software is changing words ... and turning the into nonsensical phrases. sheesh





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