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Medical Records from a Young and Brave Female Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) doctor on Fighting the COVID-19

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"Today, I want to share my experience treating 30 COVID-19 patients from the beginning to the end with you. I treated every single patient from admission to discharge, and I hope my experience can provide some insights for you.

One of the similarities of these 30 patients is that the time of onset of their illness is relatively close. Admission date for all of these patients was February 4, 2020, except for a few patients who were admitted on February 5, 2020. Through my observations of the course of their illness, I hope to provide a small clinical group study."


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Expectorants are damn important in the early stages!
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Interesting about the tongue
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So I went and purchased Primatene Tablets, they contain ephedrine, we'll see how it goes. Thanks for posting this!
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So I went and purchased Primatene Tablets, they contain ephedrine, we'll see how it goes. Thanks for posting this!
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I hope more people begin taking measures ahead of time in case their families become ill. The conversations I've heard while in public are disconcerting to say the least. Still tons of know-it-all know-nothings and their "It's just the gall-durn flu y'all!".
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Thank you OP, interesting read. I thought they banned ephedra over the counter. Some one said primatine has it, do you get that at the grocery store?
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Can we get a TLDR, please?
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the problem is Ma Huang is now illegal in the USA.

It does have the side effect of causing small blood clots.

But in this case.. It might seem effective.
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Medical Records from a Young and Brave Female Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) doctor on Fighting the COVID-19

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"Today, I want to share my experience treating 30 COVID-19 patients from the beginning to the end with you. I treated every single patient from admission to discharge, and I hope my experience can provide some insights for you.

One of the similarities of these 30 patients is that the time of onset of their illness is relatively close. Admission date for all of these patients was February 4, 2020, except for a few patients who were admitted on February 5, 2020. Through my observations of the course of their illness, I hope to provide a small clinical group study."


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Amazing article thank you!

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its not illegal but its super hard to find. but if you look hard enough you can find at least two usa suppliers.
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Absolutely amazing post OP

Thank you.

Researching what might be an american substitute - Mormon tea is one.

It is not just the ephedre. It is the concoction in accordance with others that open up the "water" passages above the lung and direct the excess water to leave through urine.

That is a whole system of herbs working together.

Lets find a nice mix here.
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Read this, even though it's long, it will help people understand. And be able to watch their own tongues. (you will have to read it to understand what I am saying here.)

Chinese medicine is freaking amazing, and should be blended with Western Medicine in the new world.
Examine also about how some tonics she gave to people helped them to avoid becoming sick.

(and they worked in Wuhan...btw)

This stuff grows.
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Spoiler alert - all 30 patients live.

Was able to reverse the glass opacity on lungs...

Everyone was looking for this, and here it is.

*crickets
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A lot of you won't understand but that's fungus or thrush on the tongue. It's the antibodies that are giving the fungus a helping hand keeping bacteria down.

I also think there is really a fungus epidemic going on or cyanide poisoning
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A lot of you won't understand but that's fungus or thrush on the tongue. It's the antibodies that are giving the fungus a helping hand keeping bacteria down.

I also think there is really a fungus epidemic going on or cyanide poisoning
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Hmmm..

This is why we need western and eastern medicine to get in bed together.

Then they can pillow talk about why this happens, and realize that they are speaking the same language from separate perspectives.

They can learn from each other.

I do think that what you wrote is why they are calling this a pathogen instead of a virus.
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the problem is Ma Huang is now illegal in the USA.

It does have the side effect of causing small blood clots.

But in this case.. It might seem effective.
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doesnt hydroxycut use a similar extract from the plant tho??


ephedra grows in arid climate
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Great article. Thank you OP.
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Absolutely amazing post OP

Thank you.

Researching what might be an american substitute - Mormon tea is one.

It is not just the ephedre. It is the concoction in accordance with others that open up the "water" passages above the lung and direct the excess water to leave through urine.

That is a whole system of herbs working together.

Lets find a nice mix here.
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Thank you for this post. Just ordered some.
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TCM is eviI garbage and WHY we have these viruses from Chian to begin with.
Get out of here with that absolute fake crud.
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Ephedra the main plant in this study is banned in USA for killing people.

So I doubt you’ll get this and more importantly this could be more Chinese propaganda.
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Read this, even though it's long, it will help people understand. And be able to watch their own tongues. (you will have to read it to understand what I am saying here.)

Chinese medicine is freaking amazing, and should be blended with Western Medicine in the new world.
Examine also about how some tonics she gave to people helped them to avoid becoming sick.

(and they worked in Wuhan...btw)

This stuff grows.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


It is complete crud. Stop it.

Oct 1, 2018,07:30am EST
WHO Endorses Traditional Chinese Medicine. Expect Deaths To Rise
"Communist China has been aggressively promoting TCM on the international stage both for expanding its global influence and for a share of the estimated US$50-billion global market."


"Critics view TCM practices as unscientific, unsupported by clinical trials, and sometimes dangerous: China’s drug regulator gets more than 230,000 reports of adverse effects from TCM each year."

Actually, it's much worse than this. "

See the f0rbes article with same title.
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Cayenne Pepper does the same thing... except better

It's a vaso dilator and spitter-upper
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Ephedra
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the problem is Ma Huang is now illegal in the USA.

It does have the side effect of causing small blood clots.

But in this case.. It might seem effective.
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Communist China is know to promote the completely false and worthless TCM across the globe.
Don't believe it for a second.
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TCM is eviI garbage and WHY we have these viruses from Chian to begin with.
Get out of here with that absolute fake crud.
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You didn't read the article.

She was working in a hospital that practices both allopathy and TCM.

Most of the allopathy treatments were put to a stop because they weren't helping. (As if we didn't get that from all the reports from multiple countries so far.)

Again - the education that is lacking about where medicine comes from. PLANTS>
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Read this, even though it's long, it will help people understand. And be able to watch their own tongues. (you will have to read it to understand what I am saying here.)

Chinese medicine is freaking amazing, and should be blended with Western Medicine in the new world.
Examine also about how some tonics she gave to people helped them to avoid becoming sick.

(and they worked in Wuhan...btw)

This stuff grows.
 Quoting: Bodhi Sita


It is complete crud. Stop it.

Oct 1, 2018,07:30am EST
WHO Endorses Traditional Chinese Medicine. Expect Deaths To Rise
"Communist China has been aggressively promoting TCM on the international stage both for expanding its global influence and for a share of the estimated US$50-billion global market."


"Critics view TCM practices as unscientific, unsupported by clinical trials, and sometimes dangerous: China’s drug regulator gets more than 230,000 reports of adverse effects from TCM each year."

Actually, it's much worse than this. "

See the f0rbes article with same title.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78331268


Propaganda

The money is in China producing pharmaceuticals.

Clinical trials are unsupported because they are only paid for and run if there is profit to be made.

They can't patent these traditional blends.
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Expectorants are damn important in the early stages!
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Raw garlic acts as one. Let sit 15 mins after grating then take with water.
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Thank you OP, interesting read. I thought they banned ephedra over the counter. Some one said primatine has it, do you get that at the grocery store?
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Ephedrine is an alkaloid. Coffee and nicotine contain alkaloids. I remember an older post saying that nicotine could help with a cytokine reaction.
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Ephedra
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the problem is Ma Huang is now illegal in the USA.

It does have the side effect of causing small blood clots.

But in this case.. It might seem effective.
 Quoting: Jake


Communist China is know to promote the completely false and worthless TCM across the globe.
Don't believe it for a second.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78331268


I am no sinophile. However I have studies the history of medicine.

Euro medicine has been problematic for centuries thank you Catholic church and then later big pharma. Genius healers and chemists have always been persecuted see Paracelsus, Lavoisier.....

Chinese medicine to our shame is centuries ahead of us.





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