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Chai Soua Vang Opens Up On Redneck White Boy Hunters Laughing At Him And Calling Him A Chink

 
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11/23/2004 09:26 AM
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Chai Soua Vang Opens Up On Redneck White Boy Hunters Laughing At Him And Calling Him A Chink
Something pissed this guy off.

Shock, Anger Pierce a Hunter´s Paradise


By P.J. Huffstutter and Stephanie Simon Times Staff Writers

BIRCHWOOD, Wis. — Hundreds of people huddled in the dark town square Monday night to memorialize six hunters — their friends and neighbors — killed in an attack so savage few could speak of it.

It was the community´s first chance to gather since a trespasser Sunday emptied his semiautomatic rifle into a group of friends out for a Thanksgiving week deer hunt.


"We have come here tonight with many emotions," said Paul Oman, pastor of the Trinity Lutheran Church. "Shock, certainly. Questions of why. Anger. Resentment. And the need for justice."

Some in the crowd cried. Most stared straight ahead. The pastor sang "Amazing Grace."

Authorities arrested Chai Soua Vang, 36, as he emerged from the woods before dusk Sunday, a short distance from the carnage. He is being held at Sawyer County Jail and has not been charged.

According to local law enforcement officials, Vang had come up from his home in St. Paul, Minn., with at least two friends. He started out hunting on public land but apparently got lost and wandered into a 400-acre tract of private property. After the shooting, he encountered several other hunters who guided him out to the road, where a game warden with the Department of Natural Resources arrested him.

Authorities are still looking for Vang´s friends.

The dead and wounded were from this rural stretch of northwest Wisconsin — a region dotted with small towns and villages like Birchwood. Many had connections to the largest city in the area, Rice Lake, home to 8,400.

The victims — part of a group of a dozen or so who came together each year — included a father and son and several longtime friends. Killed were Robert Crotteau, 42, and his son Joey, 20; Al Laski, 43; Mark Roidt, 28; and Jessica Willers, 27. Dennis Drew, 55, died of his injuries at a hospital Monday night.

"I can´t describe how I feel. How should you feel?" asked Karen Roidt. Her son Mark, she said, was "fun-loving," an avid outdoorsman. He had been hunting since he was 12.

"It´s a senseless act," his mother said.

According to authorities, the party met up Sunday at a cabin in the woods. Pocketing walkie-talkies to communicate, they split up to search the shadows for deer.

Terry Willers, 47, Jessica´s father, came across the intruder first.

The man was perched in a platform in the trees, although the woods were marked no trespassing. Willers asked the man to leave. The man climbed down as two of Willers´ hunting partners arrived. He turned to walk away. Then, without warning, he turned back and opened fire.

A burst of gunfire hit the three hunters. One was able to reach his walkie-talkie and call for help. Others in the party rushed to the scene. The man kept firing.

Willers, along with Drew´s brother-in-law, Lauren Hesebeck, 48, was seriously wounded.

At the time of his arrest, Vang was wearing a hunting license pinned to his orange vest, as required by law. The same tag number was scrawled in the dust coating one of the victims´ all-terrain vehicles. The hunter apparently had jotted it down, planning to tell a ranger about the trespasser, before the shooting erupted.

Sawyer County Sheriff James Meier said Vang was "extremely calm" at the time of his arrest and had been "showing some cooperation" with authorities. The 20-round clip of his rifle, an inexpensive Chinese-made SKS assault weapon, was empty when he was arrested.

Police in St. Paul and Minneapolis have had contact with Vang several times in recent years. In the last 18 months, they responded to two domestic disturbance calls to his house. And on Christmas Eve in 2001, he was arrested for felony domestic assault after his wife told police he had threatened her with a handgun. He spent two nights in jail but was released when his wife declined to press charges, according to Minneapolis Police Officer Ronald Reier.

"We have nothing in our records that would ever indicate he was capable of the level of violence we saw in northwestern Wisconsin," said Officer Paul Schnell of the St. Paul Police Department.

Crime rarely blights this expanse of rolling hills and scattered farms about 120 miles northeast of Minneapolis. Birchwood, famed for its bluegill fish, had 518 residents in the last census.

"We´re up here in the sticks…. Stuff like this just doesn´t happen here," said Wes Winrich, who runs a hunting guide service in this lumber town.

But as several locals pointed out, the nine-day fall deer hunt always draws plenty of outsiders.

Wisconsin counts on hunters for an economic boost estimated at $1 billion a year. About 640,000 hunting licenses are issued annually statewide, including 32,000 sold to visitors from every state in the nation and more than a dozen foreign countries.

In northwest Wisconsin, the deer are so plentiful — and so prone to collide with cars — that carcasses can be seen alongside many roads. Hunting season is more than tradition here; it´s almost a sacred ritual. (A Birchwood church even sponsors an annual "bless the hunter" service.) Some schools close during the deer hunt. Many people take time off work. Generations of families go out to hunt together for meat they will eat all winter.

Some veteran hunters said Monday that they had had problems with out-of-towners who didn´t know how to read the maps that marked which tracts of forest were private and which were open to the public.

And several in this overwhelmingly white region voiced particular unease with hunters who, like Vang, were from the Hmong community — immigrants from Laos who moved by the thousands to Wisconsin and Minnesota in the last decade.

Acknowledging that "fear is running around the community," Oman urged his neighbors not to give into hate. "Tonight is just the beginning of us drawing together as a community," he told the crowd of about 300 who gathered in the biting cold.

The slayings prompted at least a few hunters to put away their camouflage for the season. Californian Cecil Celler said he had flown to northern Wisconsin from Riverside to bag a deer — but turned around and headed to the airport as soon as he heard the news. "I just don´t want my deer that bad," he said.

Many others headed into the chill with their rifles as usual Monday, determined to enjoy the hunt even as law enforcement officials from nearly a dozen agencies combed the crime scene for evidence. Many came to the candlelight vigil wearing their blaze-orange caps and license tags.

"I don´t care who that guy is, he´s not scaring me away from my trip," said Roger Widiker, 61, who traveled from Milwaukee.

His son, Mike, was more cautious. "Yes, we went back out there today, but it´s still scary," he said.

"None of us really know what to do or feel right now," said Sheri Mlejnek, 39. Her husband is related to two of the slain hunters — Robert and Joey Crotteau.

"I can´t believe it, really," said Darwin Wosepka. Laski, who was his neighbor, managed a lumberyard and had three children. "A real nice family," he said.

He searched for words to describe his emotions, and came up with simply: "Shocked."
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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It is kinda strange how none of those slobs seemed to be capable of returning fire. Were they not all armed?. He mowed them down like a bunch of clueless yo-yos.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Gee! Let´s keep our borders open and import some more third world assholes...
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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You´re right, AC! That makes no sense at all.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Re: Chai Soua Vang Opens Up On Redneck White Boy Hunters Laughing At Him And Calling Him A Chink
They picked the wrong Chinese man sitting in a tree to mess with.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Maybe he was VC.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Ahhh, this is interesting. Another former army person going on a shooting spree.
"Sang Vang said his family was devastated, and that his brother has lived in the United States for more than 20 years and is a U.S. Army veteran."
dude h
12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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he was hmong, cambodian i think.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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That is kinda weird. Alot of killers seem to have spent some time in the army. D.C. sniper was in the army, that dude in Arizone who flunked his nursing test and shot up the school was in the army...
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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So your a killer. Let me see your war face. AHHHHHHH That´s a war face. Bullshit. You didn´t scare me. work on it
Kimberly
12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Hmong = Laos
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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So youre assuming this is what happened and decided to post it as fact. Being as racist as your post implies these other people were. Thats real good... Shit whore.
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That Dirty Laos...
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Six armed hunters shot dead, with 2 more injured? How many exactly felt the need to go out there and stand around the tree Vang was sitting in? And what exactly did they do? Surely they weren´t stupid enough to try and confiscate the man´s rifle, as I´ve heard some rednecks say they would do if they caught people hunting on "their land." How exactly did Vang get off 6 accurate shots with so many hunters standing there armed?
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He went hunting and sniping humans, 3 were hurt at the stand. the rest he hunted.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Have some respect for the dead, eh pecker head?
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Hunting party in cabin heard by walkie-talkie that one of their party had been shot. Concern to get to injured to medical over-road any thought that a massacure was in progress. Their own guns at that point were the last thing on their minds.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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there you all go making assumptions again. The people he shot came from a cabin unarmed, which is what you do when you think you are just going to ask someone to leave.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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thanks, kim.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Hunting party in cabin heard by walkie-talkie that one of their party had been shot. Concern to get to injured to medical help over-road any thought that a massacure was in progress. Their own guns were the last thing on their minds.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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AS more and more of this story comes out the poster above raises a valid point...why no return fire? Why?

Something is fishy here-hunters with high powered rifles and scopes NOT returning fire?

Hmmm....
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Wonder where Vang´s hunting buddies show up. The Wisconsin woods are BIG ... can hide much!
Kimberly
12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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No problem Dude. This whole story is sad indeed. Many questions yet to be answered.
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Vang´s arrest left some Hmong citizens in his hometown fearful of a backlash. About 24,000 Hmong live in St. Paul, the highest concentration of any U.S. city. And the shooting has already provoked racial tension in an area of Wisconsin where deer hunting is steeped in tradition.

Translation: Rednecked bigots are mad as tarnation that some China man has kilt their uncles, brothers, and cousins-some cousins and brothers, and are putting together vigilante groups to ride around in pickup trucks looking fer China men.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Army ?

mkultra
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Remember when good americans killed the chinaman with bats when japan was killing the US auto industry?

Or

when sikhs & indians were killed after 911 because they look ME?

makes a lot of sense.....
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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I must have missed the part in the article where the white ´rednecks´ were laughing at him and calling him ´chink´.

Sounds to me like the OP is a racist..and yes, white people can be discriminated against.

Fuck off OP.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Believe me, St Paul police know more than they´re releasing to the public. There have been several 911 calls to this dude´s house.
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12/08/2005 10:17 AM
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Yeah, co$#suckers. You fools don´t know shit...I do. Let´s just say I have friends in high places. Oh, and 911 was carried out by your own government, jackasses.
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Nice thread title to inflame the masses there OP.

They were laughing you say? Rednecks in Wisconsin?
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The key to this story is finding the orig. bullet Vang says was fired near him...if people fired at me when I had a loaded assault rifle in my hand...well...that was pretty stupid.





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