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Covid-19 & The Sun: A Lesson From The 1918 Influenza Pandemic

 
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Cant open all the windows in my house as i live by busy dirt road, would get house full of dust. Also with all the windows open you have to watch out for heavy chemtrail spaying operations which we got nailed yesterday quite heavily in the Denver area :(
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After a diagnosis of Tuberculosis, Dr. Edward Livingston Trudeau left the city and went to the mountains...the Adirondacks of New York State, in 1873. By 1876 he was fully
cured and moved his family to Saranac Lake and built a TB
treating hospital there that cured thousands of people.

His 'cure cottages' were also built around the town and
had these basic characteristics for the treatment … an
open porch and a sun porch.

So there was some basis for the way people tried to fight the 1918 flu. Fresh air (the high elevation of the Adks with the balsan, cedar, spruce infused air is one of the
best places in the NE) and sunlight. Worked miracles.

The Trudeau Institiute, cure cottages and museum are still
in Saranac Lake NY.
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Doctors also say that when we enter the house from been outside during the epidemic, we must hang our outerwear and the shoes outside and under the sun if possible for 30 minutes. I guess if you return home in the evening, you leave them outside the whole night.
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Thanks

It's been stated by various sources that the virus "doesn't like the sun".

It was also reported in a detailed Chinese study that at T's above @ 48F, the virus begins to deactivate.
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vitamin D3. It's the Sun giving that vitamin. I've been telling people to load up on D3. Not vitamin C.
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Lol, this is all I hear over and over again about sunlight.

Saying sunlight increases D3 is like food increases calories. There are so many incredible benefits to sunlight exposure, if it was the D3 that mattered, taking a supplement would confer you the same benefits. It doesn't.


Sunlight boosts all hormonal, immune, and neurotransmitter activity. Sunlight directly on the testicles, for instance, has been shown to boost testosterone levels DRASTICALLY, time and time again.

It speeds up your metabolism, tunes your circadian rhythm, improves sleep dramatically, which in turn increases your endogenous levels of growth hormone you endogenous release of melatonin and serotonin, increases your production of dopamine, lowers cortisol.


Some of you who have taken tropical vacations and/or spent time in the outdoors, exposing your skin for prolonged periods of time will notice you aren't getting fatter, your sleeping better, you aren't feeling stress the same way, your sex drive is boosted etc, etc
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Next time I am at the beach I should get my boys out and let them sun? Who knew? Sun burned nutsack will boost the old T.
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Doomer thought: maybe that's why we hardly ever see the sun anymore (geoengineering our skies).
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It is not Covid-19 that is dangerous, but a Tuberculosis type membraneless bacterium. This is why air and sun help. This is also why it responds to antibiotics and not to antivirals. Because in people who get bad symptoms and/or die, it happens because of this bacteria. Covid19 just happened to be there too. Like firefighters at a fire. They did not cause any of the deaths or bad illness.
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In the novel "Heidi," invalid Clara goes to the mountains to get fresh air ... and gets better!
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It's ok dude. It's just the flu. Geez
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This article lines up with a story my great-grandmother always told me. She said when my great-grandfather came home from WWI, he found his mother and some of his siblings in their family home dying of the flu. He opened all of the windows in the house and nursed them back to health. I always wondered why she included that specific part about opening the windows as the main part of the story...

But records from the 1918 pandemic suggest one technique for dealing with influenza — little-known today — was effective. Some hard-won experience from the greatest pandemic in recorded history could help us in the weeks and months ahead.

Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff. There is scientific support for this. Research shows that outdoor air is a natural disinfectant. Fresh air can kill the flu virus and other harmful germs. Equally, sunlight is germicidal and there is now evidence it can kill the flu virus.


[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

The article also mentions sunlight and vitamin D (which I have seen recommended as a supplement to take that may help fight off the virus). Also discusses the homemade face masks that they made back then which were the forerunners of the N95 respirators in use today.
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Dude that was 1918

With todays pollution levels if you open the Window. It will kill you faster.

LMAO
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This might also play into the sunlight aspect.

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Light therapy was a common practice until penicillin took over as the major treatment for curing illness. Thanks for bringing this up op. 5*
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I will have to read up on this. Thanks so much for sharing!
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Look up the work of Theo Gimbel

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Vitamin D also reduces the production of proinflammatory cytokines
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This article lines up with a story my great-grandmother always told me. She said when my great-grandfather came home from WWI, he found his mother and some of his siblings in their family home dying of the flu. He opened all of the windows in the house and nursed them back to health. I always wondered why she included that specific part about opening the windows as the main part of the story...

But records from the 1918 pandemic suggest one technique for dealing with influenza — little-known today — was effective. Some hard-won experience from the greatest pandemic in recorded history could help us in the weeks and months ahead.

Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff. There is scientific support for this. Research shows that outdoor air is a natural disinfectant. Fresh air can kill the flu virus and other harmful germs. Equally, sunlight is germicidal and there is now evidence it can kill the flu virus.


[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

The article also mentions sunlight and vitamin D (which I have seen recommended as a supplement to take that may help fight off the virus). Also discusses the homemade face masks that they made back then which were the forerunners of the N95 respirators in use today.
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


I always have my window open when I sleep. No natter how cold. Of course, it never gets below freezing.

My body must instinctively know that. I never get cold with lots of blankets.
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This article lines up with a story my great-grandmother always told me. She said when my great-grandfather came home from WWI, he found his mother and some of his siblings in their family home dying of the flu. He opened all of the windows in the house and nursed them back to health. I always wondered why she included that specific part about opening the windows as the main part of the story...

But records from the 1918 pandemic suggest one technique for dealing with influenza — little-known today — was effective. Some hard-won experience from the greatest pandemic in recorded history could help us in the weeks and months ahead.

Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff. There is scientific support for this. Research shows that outdoor air is a natural disinfectant. Fresh air can kill the flu virus and other harmful germs. Equally, sunlight is germicidal and there is now evidence it can kill the flu virus.


[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

The article also mentions sunlight and vitamin D (which I have seen recommended as a supplement to take that may help fight off the virus). Also discusses the homemade face masks that they made back then which were the forerunners of the N95 respirators in use today.
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


out door air problaby has low levels of 0_3 ozone which is an interesting molecule
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This article lines up with a story my great-grandmother always told me. She said when my great-grandfather came home from WWI, he found his mother and some of his siblings in their family home dying of the flu. He opened all of the windows in the house and nursed them back to health. I always wondered why she included that specific part about opening the windows as the main part of the story...

But records from the 1918 pandemic suggest one technique for dealing with influenza — little-known today — was effective. Some hard-won experience from the greatest pandemic in recorded history could help us in the weeks and months ahead.

Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff. There is scientific support for this. Research shows that outdoor air is a natural disinfectant. Fresh air can kill the flu virus and other harmful germs. Equally, sunlight is germicidal and there is now evidence it can kill the flu virus.


[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

The article also mentions sunlight and vitamin D (which I have seen recommended as a supplement to take that may help fight off the virus). Also discusses the homemade face masks that they made back then which were the forerunners of the N95 respirators in use today.
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


Dude that was 1918

With todays pollution levels if you open the Window. It will kill you faster.

LMAO
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maybe in the shithole you live in . so many places with fresh air in the world. get out of that city.
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vitamin D3. It's the Sun giving that vitamin. I've been telling people to load up on D3. Not vitamin C.
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Lol, this is all I hear over and over again about sunlight.

Saying sunlight increases D3 is like food increases calories. There are so many incredible benefits to sunlight exposure, if it was the D3 that mattered, taking a supplement would confer you the same benefits. It doesn't.


Sunlight boosts all hormonal, immune, and neurotransmitter activity. Sunlight directly on the testicles, for instance, has been shown to boost testosterone levels DRASTICALLY, time and time again.

It speeds up your metabolism, tunes your circadian rhythm, improves sleep dramatically, which in turn increases your endogenous levels of growth hormone you endogenous release of melatonin and serotonin, increases your production of dopamine, lowers cortisol.


Some of you who have taken tropical vacations and/or spent time in the outdoors, exposing your skin for prolonged periods of time will notice you aren't getting fatter, your sleeping better, you aren't feeling stress the same way, your sex drive is boosted etc, etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77967666


And you also have skin cancer and are
aged greatly like an old leathery boot.
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...and nicotine greatly enhances the
mummification process.
I personally recommend 3 packs of Camels a day.

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You are all fucking brainwashed if you think sunlight causes skin cancer.

Look at skin cancer rates. The further from the equator you get, the higher they go.

Every dry land mammal evolved under direct, regular exposure to sunlight. You have to be a fucking retard to compare that to smoking tobacco.

What DOES cause skin cancer? Avoiding sunlight seven months out of the year, then sitting on a beach with no conditioning to your skin in June. SunBURNS cause skin cancer.

Even fair skinned people, if they are regularly exposed to sunlight, will not burn.
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The virus is airborne. It spreads through fresh air and draft.
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Imagine the poor bastards living deep in the earth you hear talk about.
They get zero sun.
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This article lines up with a story my great-grandmother always told me. She said when my great-grandfather came home from WWI, he found his mother and some of his siblings in their family home dying of the flu. He opened all of the windows in the house and nursed them back to health. I always wondered why she included that specific part about opening the windows as the main part of the story...

But records from the 1918 pandemic suggest one technique for dealing with influenza — little-known today — was effective. Some hard-won experience from the greatest pandemic in recorded history could help us in the weeks and months ahead.

Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff. There is scientific support for this. Research shows that outdoor air is a natural disinfectant. Fresh air can kill the flu virus and other harmful germs. Equally, sunlight is germicidal and there is now evidence it can kill the flu virus.


[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

The article also mentions sunlight and vitamin D (which I have seen recommended as a supplement to take that may help fight off the virus). Also discusses the homemade face masks that they made back then which were the forerunners of the N95 respirators in use today.
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


BUT SAUDI ARABIA HAS ITbsflag
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vitamin D3. It's the Sun giving that vitamin. I've been telling people to load up on D3. Not vitamin C.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75133552


Lol, this is all I hear over and over again about sunlight.

Saying sunlight increases D3 is like food increases calories. There are so many incredible benefits to sunlight exposure, if it was the D3 that mattered, taking a supplement would confer you the same benefits. It doesn't.


Sunlight boosts all hormonal, immune, and neurotransmitter activity. Sunlight directly on the testicles, for instance, has been shown to boost testosterone levels DRASTICALLY, time and time again.

It speeds up your metabolism, tunes your circadian rhythm, improves sleep dramatically, which in turn increases your endogenous levels of growth hormone you endogenous release of melatonin and serotonin, increases your production of dopamine, lowers cortisol.


Some of you who have taken tropical vacations and/or spent time in the outdoors, exposing your skin for prolonged periods of time will notice you aren't getting fatter, your sleeping better, you aren't feeling stress the same way, your sex drive is boosted etc, etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77967666


Next time I am at the beach I should get my boys out and let them sun? Who knew? Sun burned nutsack will boost the old T.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75386015


Yep. If you ever want to grow into the man God intended you to be, you will find a space in your yard where you won't be metooed and sun those precious gems!

Global T rates are plummeting because of estrogens in the water supply, because of low-fat diet trends, because of lack of exercise, but primarily, it's a lack of sunlight.

Sunning your sack, or using a red LED an inch from the old script is scientifically proven to give your T levels a nice boost.
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This article lines up with a story my great-grandmother always told me. She said when my great-grandfather came home from WWI, he found his mother and some of his siblings in their family home dying of the flu. He opened all of the windows in the house and nursed them back to health. I always wondered why she included that specific part about opening the windows as the main part of the story...

But records from the 1918 pandemic suggest one technique for dealing with influenza — little-known today — was effective. Some hard-won experience from the greatest pandemic in recorded history could help us in the weeks and months ahead.

Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff. There is scientific support for this. Research shows that outdoor air is a natural disinfectant. Fresh air can kill the flu virus and other harmful germs. Equally, sunlight is germicidal and there is now evidence it can kill the flu virus.


[link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)]

The article also mentions sunlight and vitamin D (which I have seen recommended as a supplement to take that may help fight off the virus). Also discusses the homemade face masks that they made back then which were the forerunners of the N95 respirators in use today.
 Quoting: Daniel Higdon


BUT SAUDI ARABIA HAS ITbsflag
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Srsly dude? Saudi Arabians don't expose their skin to sunlight. It's called Muslim.
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Thats why a window fan is on my list of treatments. Exhaust of bad air then intake of fresh air.
Also hanging a couple quartered onions in the sickroom every day cuts down on viral load.
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1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 50 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

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Origins Of The Black Death Traced Back To China, Gene Sequencing HasRevealed

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Above killed 2/3 of the population of Europe.


EXPEL THE IMMIGRANTS - EAST ASIANS, AFRICANS, ARABS/MUSLIMS, SOUTH ASIANS, the whole lot.....

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

MAKE THE WEST GREAT AGAIN!


battleflag
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Same could be said by the native indians of america - get rid of all white people, remove all drugs, wars, killing, theft etc and make America GREAT again.
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Native Americans and Aerindians are also NOT "native" to the American continent.

Thye're also migrants from Centra/East Asia, across the Bering Straits 20,000 years gao.

EXPEL THEM ALSO!


:racist5:
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1918 Flu Pandemic That Killed 50 Million Originated in China, Historians Say

[link to www.nationalgeographic.com (secure)]


Origins Of The Black Death Traced Back To China, Gene Sequencing HasRevealed

[link to www.medicalnewstoday.com (secure)]


Above killed 2/3 of the population of Europe.


EXPEL THE IMMIGRANTS - EAST ASIANS, AFRICANS, ARABS/MUSLIMS, SOUTH ASIANS, the whole lot.....

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

MAKE THE WEST GREAT AGAIN!


battleflag
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Same could be said by the native indians of america - get rid of all white people, remove all drugs, wars, killing, theft etc and make America GREAT again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78597143



Native Americans and Amerindians are also NOT "native" to the American continent.

Thye're also migrants from Centra/East Asia, across the Bering Straits 20,000 years gao.

EXPEL THEM ALSO!


:racist5:
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Patricia and Paul Bragg published a book several years ago title.. Healing Power of the Sun. Vitamin D3 and other factors helped cure him of tubercolsis back in the early 20th century.
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Doctors also say that when we enter the house from been outside during the epidemic, we must hang our outerwear and the shoes outside and under the sun if possible for 30 minutes. I guess if you return home in the evening, you leave them outside the whole night.
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Stay defensive and healthy. hugs
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It's not just the sun, (which is great) but the fact that indoor air is and always has been POLLUTED
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Excellent thread OP.





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