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User ID: 74476876 United States 03/16/2020 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to twitter.com (secure)] Beginning and End of story. You say there is no God.. but I KNOW there is, experience will "Trump" theory every time ~ Evangelina It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL EVER PERSUADE AN IDIOT ~~ MARK TWAIN |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78185020 Canada 03/16/2020 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, is anyone else beginning to wonder if this is about destroying the economy, rather than the disease? Some stores are not accepting cash. They will do away with cash. Could the one-worlders, illuminati be making their big move? We have certainly all fallen in line. |
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wYw User ID: 76377704 United States 03/16/2020 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It takes a month to recover at the very least Time to buy stock in medical supply companies Maybe investigate who else did 6 months ago If these rumors coming out of China continue to keep proving true than the verified 14 day incubation period could be as high as 21-72 days depending on which mutated strain you acquire 14 days is the verified baseline That means China is only in the middle of the 2nd or 3rd wave at most Technically the WORLD is still in the middle of the end of the 1st wave The original Chinese Doctor turned WHISTLEBLOWER who originally died from the virus was infected for at least 14 days before showing symptoms It then took an additional 28 days for the doctor to die from the virus The average time span from day 1 of being symptomatic to death is 18 It has barely even been 42 days since news of this broke That’s the best case scenario That’s our BASELINE 14+28=42 days |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35818575 United Kingdom 03/16/2020 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a pleasure to see you Doc, I didn't know you were here. (I remember you from another forum). Well, this is all a right flaming mess, isn't it! So many different versions of events that nobody can know fact from fiction at all. Which very predictably results in forums full of people who should know better, flinging insults at each other (not in this thread, but most). It's a puzzler to know how to deal with it. Wishing you all safety and strength anyway. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78630938 United States 03/16/2020 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Spanish flu lasted almost 3 years and had several cycles, peaks and troughs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76760905 The second and third cycles will be worse. Why are you automatically comparing covid-19 to the Spanish flu? So no, he/she's not right ... and you should know better. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34054052 Canada 03/16/2020 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, is anyone else beginning to wonder if this is about destroying the economy, rather than the disease? Some stores are not accepting cash. They will do away with cash. Could the one-worlders, illuminati be making their big move? We have certainly all fallen in line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185020 To your first question, yes. The others, who knows. Avoiding cash might be because of fear over being a robbery target while people are so fucking nuts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68903750 United States 03/16/2020 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, is anyone else beginning to wonder if this is about destroying the economy, rather than the disease? Some stores are not accepting cash. They will do away with cash. Could the one-worlders, illuminati be making their big move? We have certainly all fallen in line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185020 been thinking this for some time |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77544685 United States 03/16/2020 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Spanish flu lasted almost 3 years and had several cycles, peaks and troughs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76760905 The second and third cycles will be worse. The Spanish Flu took place in an era pre transplant and pre AIDS. We have a much better sense of how to keep areas clean and why it’s important a century later. Apples and oranges. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78349802 United States 03/16/2020 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Spanish flu lasted almost 3 years and had several cycles, peaks and troughs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76760905 The second and third cycles will be worse. The Spanish Flu took place in an era pre transplant and pre AIDS. We have a much better sense of how to keep areas clean and why it’s important a century later. Apples and oranges. There have been quite a few types of virus between then and this one. I don't remember any stories about second and third waves for those. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56255546 United States 03/16/2020 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | March 16, 2020 Quoting: Doc Savage COVID-19: The Numbers Tell The Story By Marc Sheppard Updated. By merging datasets recently made available by the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control, and Johns Hopkins University, I've gathered some truly fascinating trend statistics on the global penetration of COVID-19 that I'm now prepared to share. There are 20 infected countries on page one of my analysis — and these are their stories. Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Penetration Statistics by Country as of 3/14/2020 08:00 GMT Data Image Copyright © 2020 by Marc Sheppard. You'll notice that this particular data snapshot contains population, new cases reported, deaths, and recoveries by country of exposure. I've added five columns for each metric: total, today, last 5 days, 6–10 days ago, and 11–15 days ago are calculated for each in order to spot trends. I've also added percentages of cases per population, fatalities per caseload, and recoveries per caseload, by country and worldwide. The 2020 populations came courtesy of a U.N. dataset, which I joined to an ECDC dataset for daily new case and death details and a JHU-CSSE dataset for recovery details. The latter two are updated daily at 0800 GMT. I was tempted to submit the result-set without comment, but perhaps I should get the conversation started. Coronavirus (COVID-19) — by the Numbers Note: When reading this section, please keep in mind that its analysis was penned based on older data (3/14/20). I've added an update including latest data table in the final section. Together, the 2 days' data tell quite the fast-paced story. Hang on to your hat. Note: This was Saturday. Now, then, I've sorted the result-set descending by caseload, which puts the country where it all began, China, on top by a wide margin, with 80,973 confirmed cases, 3,194 deaths, and 64,196 patients recovered. Given a population of 1.44 billion, that's a 0.005626% infection rate (that's 1 in 19,011), a 3.94% mortality rate, and a 79.28% recovery rate thus far. Additionally, over the past 15 days, cases and deaths are both trending way down while recoveries trend up — a great sign of successful countermeasures policy. A note on mortality rates: There's high confidence that all are quite overstated in the case of COVID-19, due primarily to its tendency to manifest light or zero symptoms in over 80% of its hosts, who subsequently dismiss their illness as a common cold. As such, the denominator of its mortality calculations are heavily understated, causing the overstatement of the calculated percentage. As testing becomes more widespread, this problem should self-correct. That said, to say that Italy is less encouraging than China would be quite the understatement. Italy places with 17,660 cases, 1,268 deaths, and 1,439 recoveries. Italy has the highest mortality rate (in the top 20) at 7.18%, and more than half its cases (10,285) were reported in the past 5 days (very bad). And of all nations with populations exceeding 500,000, Italy ranks #1 in infected rate at 0.029209 (that's 1 in every 3,424 people). But it's the past 15 days that concern me the most. Eleven to fifteen days ago, there were 1,852 new cases. Six to ten days ago, 4,873. And the 10,285 in the past 5 days represent 58% of the nation's cases. Hmmmmm. Italian fatalities in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments, were 63, 286, and 902. In the latest data, they reported 252 COVID-19-related deaths. Italian recoveries in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments, were 440, 440, and 817. The latest data reported 394 COVID-19 recoveries. The show position goes to, of all places, Iran: 11,364 cases, 514 deaths, and 2,959 recoveries. It has the second highest mortality rate at 4.52%, and 42% of its cases (4,798) were reported in the past 5 days. Infection rate is a moderate 0.01353 (1 in 7,390). Cases reported in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments, were 2,091, 4,230, and 4,798. The latest data, they reported 1,289 COVID-19 cases. Iranian fatalities in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments, were 51, 117, and 320. In the latest data, they reported 85 COVID-19-related deaths. Iranian recoveries in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 738, 1,387, and 825. In the latest data, they reported no COVID-19 recoveries. S. Korea (#4)'s infection rate (0.015772) is similar to Iran's. But check out the declining cases, flat fatalities, and rising recoveries over the past 15 days, while Spain (#5), France (#6), and Germany (#7) cases and fatalities have exploded in that time, although recoveries show a favorable trend. Here at home (#8), as of 3/14/2020 datasets, there are only 2,174 confirmed cases in the USA. That's a 0.000007 rate (1 in 152,255). And, not to minimize these passings, but for all the hype, there've been only 47 deaths attributed to the virus (mortality = 2.16) in America ever. But U.S. cases in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 65, 429 and 1620. In the latest data, they reported 511 new COVID-19 cases. And almost 75% of cases were reported in the past 5 days. Definitely on a steep rise. And US fatalities reported in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 9, 12 and 26. In the latest data, they reported 6 COVID-19 deaths. Pretty similar to Spain, France and Germany. Except that US recoveries in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 0, 0, and 5. In the latest data, there were NO COVID-19 recoveries. CONTINUED AT: [link to www.americanthinker.com (secure)] Yes, they really do: In 2009, under Obama, "Swine flu caused 60.8 million illnesses, 273,304 hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths in the U.S. Worldwide, swine flu may have killed up to 203,000 people, more than the number thus far infected with Coronavirus, and the vast majority of those infected recovering uneventfully. Why wasn’t virtually every major sporting event in 2009 cancelled given these numbers? Especially with swine flu preferentially affecting the young? Granted the coronavirus hasn’t run its course and the numbers will likely increase, but look at the comparison of numbers and reaction now versus then. In the U.S., 63 deaths now versus 12,000 then. 3,621 cases now versus 60 million then. Yet I don’t remember the hair-on-fire media reaction now versus then . What a difference a president makes." [link to www.americanthinker.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 76648271 Canada 03/16/2020 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Except that US recoveries in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 0, 0, and 5. In the latest data, there were NO COVID-19 recoveries. Quoting: Doc Savage That data suggests US health authorities had a problem with their initial setup for quarantines and reinfections occurred from the initial groups. Embrace the cognitive dissonance. |
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User ID: 78620244 Japan 03/16/2020 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody wants to say it might effect certain gene groups more than others because “that would be racist” and it seems that it’s not only Asians who get it. But what if it’s some snippet of gene shared by, say, Chinese Italians and Iranians that is making for such a huge discreprency? Why are the numbers so much lower in Japan than Korea despite them being next to each other and being both Asian? If we want to cure it we need to look at gene differences, the elephant in the room. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78347381 United States 03/16/2020 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | March 16, 2020 Quoting: Doc Savage COVID-19: The Numbers Tell The Story By Marc Sheppard Updated. By merging datasets recently made available by the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control, and Johns Hopkins University, I've gathered some truly fascinating trend statistics on the global penetration of COVID-19 that I'm now prepared to share. There are 20 infected countries on page one of my analysis — and these are their stories. Coronavirus (COVID-19) Global Penetration Statistics by Country as of 3/14/2020 08:00 GMT Data Image Copyright © 2020 by Marc Sheppard. You'll notice that this particular data snapshot contains population, new cases reported, deaths, and recoveries by country of exposure. I've added five columns for each metric: total, today, last 5 days, 6–10 days ago, and 11–15 days ago are calculated for each in order to spot trends. I've also added percentages of cases per population, fatalities per caseload, and recoveries per caseload, by country and worldwide. The 2020 populations came courtesy of a U.N. dataset, which I joined to an ECDC dataset for daily new case and death details and a JHU-CSSE dataset for recovery details. The latter two are updated daily at 0800 GMT. I was tempted to submit the result-set without comment, but perhaps I should get the conversation started. Coronavirus (COVID-19) — by the Numbers Note: When reading this section, please keep in mind that its analysis was penned based on older data (3/14/20). I've added an update including latest data table in the final section. Together, the 2 days' data tell quite the fast-paced story. Hang on to your hat. Note: This was Saturday. Now, then, I've sorted the result-set descending by caseload, which puts the country where it all began, China, on top by a wide margin, with 80,973 confirmed cases, 3,194 deaths, and 64,196 patients recovered. Given a population of 1.44 billion, that's a 0.005626% infection rate (that's 1 in 19,011), a 3.94% mortality rate, and a 79.28% recovery rate thus far. Additionally, over the past 15 days, cases and deaths are both trending way down while recoveries trend up — a great sign of successful countermeasures policy. A note on mortality rates: There's high confidence that all are quite overstated in the case of COVID-19, due primarily to its tendency to manifest light or zero symptoms in over 80% of its hosts, who subsequently dismiss their illness as a common cold. As such, the denominator of its mortality calculations are heavily understated, causing the overstatement of the calculated percentage. As testing becomes more widespread, this problem should self-correct. That said, to say that Italy is less encouraging than China would be quite the understatement. Italy places with 17,660 cases, 1,268 deaths, and 1,439 recoveries. Italy has the highest mortality rate (in the top 20) at 7.18%, and more than half its cases (10,285) were reported in the past 5 days (very bad). And of all nations with populations exceeding 500,000, Italy ranks #1 in infected rate at 0.029209 (that's 1 in every 3,424 people). But it's the past 15 days that concern me the most. Eleven to fifteen days ago, there were 1,852 new cases. Six to ten days ago, 4,873. And the 10,285 in the past 5 days represent 58% of the nation's cases. Hmmmmm. Italian fatalities in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments, were 63, 286, and 902. In the latest data, they reported 252 COVID-19-related deaths. Italian recoveries in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments, were 440, 440, and 817. The latest data reported 394 COVID-19 recoveries. The show position goes to, of all places, Iran: 11,364 cases, 514 deaths, and 2,959 recoveries. It has the second highest mortality rate at 4.52%, and 42% of its cases (4,798) were reported in the past 5 days. Infection rate is a moderate 0.01353 (1 in 7,390). Cases reported in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments, were 2,091, 4,230, and 4,798. The latest data, they reported 1,289 COVID-19 cases. Iranian fatalities in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments, were 51, 117, and 320. In the latest data, they reported 85 COVID-19-related deaths. Iranian recoveries in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 738, 1,387, and 825. In the latest data, they reported no COVID-19 recoveries. S. Korea (#4)'s infection rate (0.015772) is similar to Iran's. But check out the declining cases, flat fatalities, and rising recoveries over the past 15 days, while Spain (#5), France (#6), and Germany (#7) cases and fatalities have exploded in that time, although recoveries show a favorable trend. Here at home (#8), as of 3/14/2020 datasets, there are only 2,174 confirmed cases in the USA. That's a 0.000007 rate (1 in 152,255). And, not to minimize these passings, but for all the hype, there've been only 47 deaths attributed to the virus (mortality = 2.16) in America ever. But U.S. cases in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 65, 429 and 1620. In the latest data, they reported 511 new COVID-19 cases. And almost 75% of cases were reported in the past 5 days. Definitely on a steep rise. And US fatalities reported in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 9, 12 and 26. In the latest data, they reported 6 COVID-19 deaths. Pretty similar to Spain, France and Germany. Except that US recoveries in the past 15 days, in 5-day increments were 0, 0, and 5. In the latest data, there were NO COVID-19 recoveries. CONTINUED AT: [link to www.americanthinker.com (secure)] recovery low. because we have open beds and still detect virus in blood and do some experiments. even though they recover and could go home. they test now on the strong while beds are open. those other country if fever went down and no signs of increase symptoms. send him home, quick get him out of here. we need more beds. see that. those who went home. still could die in 30 days. I see death so high in one month in America, and of course global, that numbers cannot be hidden. we cannot get proper accurate stats, until at least another 30 days plus 30 days and compare those two. i see tremendous deaths starting in 2-3 months, death will become a common word used in every house across America and the Globe. think about that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78347381 United States 03/16/2020 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody wants to say it might effect certain gene groups more than others because “that would be racist” and it seems that it’s not only Asians who get it. But what if it’s some snippet of gene shared by, say, Chinese Italians and Iranians that is making for such a huge discreprency? Why are the numbers so much lower in Japan than Korea despite them being next to each other and being both Asian? If we want to cure it we need to look at gene differences, the elephant in the room. Quoting: Ordovician 3 largest main players on satans side during these end days. 100 percent China - they march with a huge army to attack Israel at the end. Iran - they want to usher in their god, they want Israel wiped off the map. that is there job, is to attack Isreal and that brings forth their messiah. Italy - Vatican, false prophet, pope we want us all one religion, we molest little boys, we changed the bible scripture, hid books. biggest players in the end of days. against Israel. those who curse Israel, I will curse thee. those who bless Israel, I will bless thee. |
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User ID: 76832421 United States 03/16/2020 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, is anyone else beginning to wonder if this is about destroying the economy, rather than the disease? Some stores are not accepting cash. They will do away with cash. Could the one-worlders, illuminati be making their big move? We have certainly all fallen in line. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78185020 The hype is about destroying the economy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77996959 United States 03/16/2020 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody wants to say it might effect certain gene groups more than others because “that would be racist” and it seems that it’s not only Asians who get it. But what if it’s some snippet of gene shared by, say, Chinese Italians and Iranians that is making for such a huge discreprency? Why are the numbers so much lower in Japan than Korea despite them being next to each other and being both Asian? If we want to cure it we need to look at gene differences, the elephant in the room. Quoting: Ordovician 3 largest main players on satans side during these end days. 100 percent China - they march with a huge army to attack Israel at the end. Iran - they want to usher in their god, they want Israel wiped off the map. that is there job, is to attack Isreal and that brings forth their messiah. Italy - Vatican, false prophet, pope we want us all one religion, we molest little boys, we changed the bible scripture, hid books. biggest players in the end of days. against Israel. those who curse Israel, I will curse thee. those who bless Israel, I will bless thee. Are you suggesting that Israel had something to do with the manufacturing and releasing of this virus to attack their enemies? |