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Coronavirus is a Bioweapon? Yes or No?

 
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Believe it or not, viruses are used all the time to tweak our DNA. Just as we play with the genetics of our ‘stock’, so do they.
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Here is a 2008 study from the lab in Wuhan that details step by step how they took a natural SARS-bat coronavirus and modified it into a psuedovirus using HIV inserts so it can bind to ACE2 receptors.

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State Key Laboratory of Virology, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China1; Key Laboratory ofCell Proliferation and Differentiation of the Ministry of Education, College of Life Sciences, Peking University, Beijing, China2;CSIRO Livestock Industries, Australian Animal Health Laboratory and Australian Biosecurity Cooperative Research Center forEmerging Infectious Diseases, Geelong, Australia3; and School of Life Science, East China Normal University, Shanghai, China

In this study, a human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-basedpseudovirus system was employed to address these issues. Ourresults indicated that the SL-CoV S protein is unable to useACE2 proteins of different species for cell entry and thatSARS-CoV S protein also failed to bind the ACE2 molecule ofthe horseshoe bat,Rhinolophus pearsonii. However, when theRBD of SL-CoV S was replaced with that from the SARS-CoVS, the hybrid S protein was able to use the huACE2 for cellentry, implying that the SL-CoV S proteins are structurally andfunctionally very similar to the SARS-CoV S. These resultssuggest that although the SL-CoVs discovered in bats so far areunlikely to infect humans using ACE2 as a receptor, it remainsto be seen whether they are able to use other surface moleculesof certain human cell types to gain entry.

More from the article on how the created the HIV psuedovirus to prove their thesis of human infectivity.

Construction and purification of pseudoviruses.HIV-based pseudoviruseswere prepared as described previously (37). In brief, 12g each of pHIV-Luc(pNL4.3.Luc.RE-Luc) and the S-expressing plasmids (or empty vector con-trol) was cotransfected into 2106293T cells in 10-cm dishes. After 8 h, themedium was replaced with fresh medium. Supernatants were harvested at 48 hposttransfection, clarified from cell debris by centrifugation at 3,000g, andfiltered through a 0.45-m-pore-size filter (Millipore). Pseudoviruses in the cellsupernatant (4 ml) were purified by ultracentrifugation through a 20% sucrosecushion (4 ml) at 55,000gfor 60 min using a Ty90 rotor (Beckman). Thepelleted pseudoviruses were dissolved in 100l of phosphate-buffered saline(PBS) and stored at80°C in aliquots until they were used. To evaluate theincorporation of S proteins and HIV p24 into the pseudotyped viruses, 20lofpurified viruses was subjected to sodium dodecyl sulfate-polyacrylamide gel elec-trophoresis (SDS-PAGE) and Western blotting as detailed below.


This equals... Made in China!
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Believe it or not, viruses are used all the time to tweak our DNA. Just as we play with the genetics of our ‘stock’, so do they.
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Should have made this a poll OP...yes for me.
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The wife of Brazil’s President has Corona virus ,so does Canada’s

I wonder where they caught it ?

Where could they have been to get it ?

So I found UN Climate Change Conference Madrid 2 to 13 December 2019 ..COP25

Project P25 VID 19 of you take out CO ....to provide digital voice and data suited to Public Safely Communications ..

Corona virus COVID 19 ...why 19 ? It started in 19


Madrid has a big outbreak .

Holders up to progress Brazil,Australia,US and China ..Iran was at the meeting but not the people at the top in Iran that caught the virus ....

Outcome of the virus ....airlines and air travel stopped ..

Who does this suit ? Climate change enthusiasts ...Good film plot here ...

This little journey is the result of trapping an over 70’s in their home when younger people who are also vulnerable can roam around happily .

Just saying ...

What do you think about that scenario ?
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Should have made this a poll OP...yes for me.
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i wanted,but my acc is not upgraded to do sohf

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Nope (or maybe, but not as severe as they want you to believe). But this is a globalist mindfuck. The grandest of our time. This is their final card to play before they finally pay. Or not.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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Yes, it is a very carefully crafted bug. Designed to have a low mortality rate. It's a weapon designed to give tptb control over populations without being too deadly.

They didn't want to unleash something that would destroy themselves. That would've been dumb.
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As a “bioweapon”, it sucks... it’s killed less people in the US in the last two/three months than autoerotic asphyxiation.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

As an economic weapon?

Maybe the greatest one ever devised...
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THIS.

Did it come from bats? Maybe. See this article from the past.

2016:

[link to www.cidrap.umn.edu]


2018:

ttps://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/new-coronavirus-​emerges-bats-china-devastates-young-swine
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I watched this virus very closely from last december,and I have a few questions to GLPers:

1. How real is it that the virus spread so quickly around the world in such a short time, literally all countries are infected?
 Quoting: NOFAKE

It spreads fast. It's slower than the flu. But the flu spreads really, really fast.

It infected all countries because until now, our approach to prevent spread of diseases from country to country was to install controls at the border after detecting the outbreak. But viruses are a really varied bunch, and it was only a matter of time before a new virus appeared that completely breaks this approach. Many people can carry the virus and not show any symptoms. Which makes symptom-based controls at the border completely useless.


2. Why in China people stopped getting sick, as we all know, the numbers fell sharply,

Because of their massive, repressive lockdown. And even then the number didn't fall sharply. In fact, it was a very, very slow decrease. It took them a whole month before the numbers started looking hopeful. And we are close to 2 months since lockdown and there are still thousands of active cases.


3. Why, for example, in Italy do people die much more than in China, according to statistics?


Many, many factors might contribute to this. First of all, the Population of Italy is one of the oldest in the world. They also have a good share of smokers. But most importantly, their hospitals got overrun. The death rate you've seen in many places, with 2% death rate and 0.2% death rate for people younger than 40 years old. That death rate assumes that people, including young people, can get proper treatment when they get pneumonia and start having difficulty to breathe. But if hospitals are saturated, a lot of people won't get that treatment. A lot of people in Italy are denied treatment because other people would have a better survival rate. For example, if you have high blood pressure, you won't be given treatment because Italian doctors prefer using the hospital beds on young people with no such conditions.





You say the virus has mutated into a more complex form, but how?

Mutation is a normal process with viruses. There might be an error or variation in the genetic code after a virus reproduces. Usually these genetic variations don't result in a difference in behavior of that virus. Sometimes, they do. Since the virus has been out in the wild reproducing like crazy, we've detected many different variations of the virus. But there's no evidence that the virus mutated to become deadlier or to spread faster. They detected that a particular genetic variation accounts for 60% of the cases. But this doesn't necessarily mean this variation is better, it could just be a result of random chance that this specific variation was the one to cross the Chinese border.



4. Why is the virus so smart that it can spread in such a tricky way that initially the symptoms are mostly not shown by people at first,

Viruses are not smart. They are basically just a bunch of random code that turns out to be able to use living being's cells to reproduce. Since this involves natural selection, it evolves. Evolution doesn't really give a shit about creating deadlier viruses, but it does try to generate viruses that spread better. This virus is successful because it can even reproduce without symptoms, no symptoms give it the advantage that people continue traveling and spreading it and can't be caught in the border. It's not the first virus that does it. Chicken pox is like that. We just had bad luck.


5. How can a virus survive on all surfaces for so long, even though the weather in some countries is completely different than in others?


Viruses are very resilient. And are basically not technically alive when they are not infecting some cell. So basically a virus doesn't need to 'survive' on a surface, just stay stable without breaking its genetic code. It may still be possible that weather affects the virus, but we are in a kind of unlucky time of the year in which the south is starting to get cold and the north is still cold.



6. Doesn’t it seem strange to you that last year before the virus appeared bill gates organization did an experiment?


Bill Gates' organization is always doing some shit.


7. Doesn’t it seem strange to you that China has the largest biolaboratory in Wuhan, and as everyone already knows, the virus was released from there allegedly "accidentally"


The virus is related to SARS. Wuhan has the largest biolaboratory in Wuhan, because it was created as a response to SARS. There's no evidence that the virus was released from this laboratory. And there's a lot of genetic evidence showing that the virus came from wild animals. Its genetic code is way too random and unstructured to be something they could generate in a lab. Generating viruses in a lab is still a complicated process that tends to leave signatures of sort. None of which could be found in this virus. For it to be lab-generated, some power would have to have had a far more advanced genetic industry than the rest of the countries.
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^ The China numbers are all lies.

Very recent twitter videos showing the ERs in China are still jammed packed.
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YES, it is all part of the Georgia Guidestones agenda. Depopulation with whatever means necessary.
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A lot more people are dying in Italy because they have an older population.
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Maybe so, but China was lying their asses off about the numbers.
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I watched this virus very closely from last december,and I have a few questions to GLPers:

1. How real is it that the virus spread so quickly around the world in such a short time, literally all countries are infected?
2. Why in China people stopped getting sick, as we all know, the numbers fell sharply, there was also a case in every province, the Chinese are hiding the numbers? or do they have any treatment options?
3. Why, for example, in Italy do people die much more than in China, according to statistics? You say the virus has mutated into a more complex form, but how?
4. Why is the virus so smart that it can spread in such a tricky way that initially the symptoms are mostly not shown by people at first,
5. How can a virus survive on all surfaces for so long, even though the weather in some countries is completely different than in others?
6. Doesn’t it seem strange to you that last year before the virus appeared bill gates organization did an experiment?
7. Doesn’t it seem strange to you that China has the largest biolaboratory in Wuhan, and as everyone already knows, the virus was released from there allegedly "accidentally"

Sorry I can’t create a survey. I would like to know only one answer, what do you think is a biological weapon?
Yes or no?
 Quoting: NOFAKE


I do believe in all likelihood, yes, It has already been previously manipulated 4 times. What I post below is some information you can take it FWIW

I have learned that once the temp gets to about 80 degrees F, the infections fall off substantially. I have spent hours researching this since I saw a video by Dr. Boyer, who is a lawyer and a scientist that wrote the rules on level 3 and 4 bio-labs that were adopted by the U. S. and then by the UN. He relates that published articles show that in 2015 the University of North Carolina, which had a level 4 lab took a Coronavirus and developed it as a bio-weapon by integrating HIV and SARS into its genome. This made it a very contagious virus which for the first 2 weeks showed no symptoms which allowed it to be contagious without evidence of the infection. A level 3 lab was not supposed to be doing this. A Chinese viral biologist came to the lab to study the developed virus and the Chinese then bought the virus for an undisclosed amount. It was transferred to the Wuhan lab which was a level 4 lab. There, they studied why the bat did not get a virus to develop a possible vaccine studying the bat immune system and blood.
That is where the first story came from about someone ate a bat and developed the virus. However, it is more likely that someone in the lab contacted the virus or got the bat feces on them or the feces were put outside where it was accessible to animals, birds, or humans walking on it. This lab is supposedly also the lab where the SARS virus came from.

As a side note, it is alleged that a professor of science at the University is a major investor in a company that develops vaccines.
Follow the money always!!

Since the U.S. was involved in it and the CDC likely knew what the lab was doing since it supposedly monitors these labs (Canada also has
them) none of this is going to be exposed. Dr. Boyer tried but was rebuked. In addition, an Indian lab in February announced it found the SARS and HIV in the virus but immediately, it's information was suppressed. I watched a video put out by a viral biologist and he found the same thing and has stated it was made as a bio-weapon based upon his breaking down the components.

I am more worried about 5G than the virus. 5G is killing trees next to the towers and 4 school children suddenly developed cancer form a 5G tower right next to a school. It is the same technology that was developed for crowd disbursement which makes your skin feel like it is on fire. It can be tuned to do all kinds of damage to emotions, thoughts, and to the DNA. It is a very evil and dark weapon.

I have accumulated a large database of lectures, etc. by very knowledgeable scientists and also videos by the person who developed it as a crowd weapon and he is saying it is being put out there to also receive information about persons within its range. It is planned to put thousands of tiny satellites into orbit to enable the system to work worldwide. Musk is one of the evil ones doing this.
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Dude.. calm down. It's just the flu. Th3 850 billion dollar check for our r3covery in which means NOT you. This for the banks and corps who make a killing owning the toilet paper factories. This stimulus is to keep their happy tears from drowning themselves from joy.
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A lot more people are dying in Italy because they have an older population.
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Maybe so, but China was lying their asses off about the numbers.
 Quoting: Katballoo


Totally 100% agree China has basically stopped reporting. They have been incinerating bodies left and right 24/7 for months as shown by Sat pic's. But what else would you expect from a Commie country... telling anyone the truth is totally against all policies
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CONFIRMED - FORT DETRICK, THE UNITED STATES BIOLOGICAL WARFARE LAB IS WHERE CORONAVIRUS ORIGINATED

FORCED TO SHUT DOWN WHEN VIRUSES LEAKED AUGUST 2019

US SOLDIERS WERE INFECTED

300 HUNDRED CAME TO WUHAN ON PRETENSE OF TAKING PART IN THE WORLD MILITARY COMPETITION - WON NOT ONE MEDAL

SPREAD OUT IN WUHAN WITH SOME VISITING THE WET MARKETS

US CONSULATE IN WUHAN FULLY EVACUATED WITH BIOWEAPON DRUMS LEFT IN GROUNDS

WEEKS LATER FIRST VICTIM OF CORONAVIRUS APPEARED IN WUHAN

US FOUND TO HAVE 5 STRAINS, WUHAN HAS ONE

PROVING THE UNITED STATES IS THE ORIGIN OF THE CORONAVIRUS

READ ON

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“As posted by June Lee:

August 6, 2019, the US's main biological warfare lab at Fort Detrick was issued a "ceast and desist" order because of violation of safety standards and protocol, and leaks.
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August - September 2019, "statewide outbreak" of a mysterious respiratory emerged in the US, causing severe respiratory diseases in a few hundred people. This was blamed on vaping although people had been vaping for more than a decade without such outbreaks. Officials were unable to find any relation to a specific vaping device and addictive.
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August 2019 - Jan 2020, the US CDC reported that the US is gearing up for one of the worst flu seasons ever, with 12000 deaths. On 12 March 2020, the CDC director admitted that some COVID-19 deaths were misdiagnosed as the flu because COVID-19 were found when they did posthumous tests.
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October 18 - 27, 2019, the 2019 Military World Games was held in Wuhan. The US sent a contingent of 350 athletes. They did not win any medals. The athletes toured Wuhan.

November 2019, the Chinese press reported that five athletes who had suffered from infectious disease had been discharged from hospital.
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November 2019, Wuhan locals were detected with COVID-19, with a spike of such terms in local social media. This coincided with the post-incubation period after the Military World Games.
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December 1, 2019, the first confirmed case of COVID-19 was detected in Wuhan. Subsequently more than 80000 people will be infected. Of the first 41 cases, 34% were not related to the wildlife market.
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Daniel Lucey, an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University, claimed that because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing, and the presence of infected people with no links to wildlife market, the virus could not have originated from the wildlife market. Kristian Andersen, an evolutionary biologist at the Scripps Research Institute, agreed with the assessment.
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Genotype assay of COVID-19 revealed 5 variants/strains (group ABCDE) of the virus. Most regions in the world have 1-2 COVID-19 variants including Hubei (mainly group C), and UK (Group &#128526;. US is the only country with all 5 variants (Group ABCDE). In Virology 101, the region with the most variants is the origin of the disease.
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25 Jan, 2020, Japanese couple went for a 10 days vacation in Hawaii. On the second week they fell ill. On return to Japan they were tested and confirmed to have COVID-19.
[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]

Italy lab confirmed that the strain of COVID-19 is different from the one circulating in China, and that the circulation of the virus is not so recent, and had been spreading undetected for weeks.
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China's coronavirus expert Dr Zhong Nanshan, the discoverer of SARS, said that although COVID-19 was detected in China, it doesn't necessary mean that it originated from China.

As of March 12, 2020, the US had only tested 10000 people, and COVID-19 was confirmed in 1600 of them. As a comparison South Korea tests 10000 people a day, but the disease rate trajectory is the same as the US. This suggests that there is a great number of infected people in the US, just that they were not tested.
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You entire theory is flawed because:


Cave full of bats in China identified as source of virus almost identical to the one killing hundreds today


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You cant create the original virus from scratch, as its beyond the capacity of human technology.

A "biowepon" is created, when either an original virus is extracted and used as is, or genetically modified, for biowarfare.

And the bat reservoir where the original virus resides, is in China, not in USA.

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Yes. It's a test run to see how the public will react when gov't asks them to join in a shut-in.
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Not a bioweapon. All pathogens ever used (anthrax, plague) or being researched as bioweapons, came orignally from animals.


The HUMAN-ANIMAL SPECIES barrier is the most difficult for the virus to cross.

This occurs when there is ABNORMAL animal-human close quarters contact. Like eating, living with or having sex with the animals.


Black Africans (Ebola, HIV) ...... by eating monkeys and chimps

Arabs (MERS) .... by f*kking goats and camels

Chinese (Black Death, Spanish Flu, SARS, Bat-soup virus) ..... by eating bats, rats, pangolins, cats, porcupines, crocodiles, cockroaches, etc


Once that is achieved, the human-human mutation is pretty easy for it to accomplish.


The most dangerous diseases, including Rabies with 99.99% mortality rate, come from animals.



The ZOONOSIS (zoonotic diseases).

See entire list:
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


So be VERY CAREFUL....when breeding, eating or experimenting with animals.

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Yes.

Is obvious.

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Please GIVE an example a bioweapon, that has NOT come from animals.

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Yes. It's a test run to see how the public will react when gov't asks them to join in a shut-in.
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If they shut-down.....the globalists......politicians, big-businessmen and entertainers, who promote open borders have lost.


This virus is a HUGE DISADVANTAGE for globalists.

Its reduced travel considerably, as well as trade and commerce.

Closed or tightened many borders.

Crashing the stock-markets, banking and big-business.

Also created a lot of xenophobia, racism and fear of immigrants.

People are even afraid to shake-hands, hug and kiss.

Which is exactly the OPPOSITE, of what the kumbaya singing, world-spanning hugging and kissing, globalists want.

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you're forgetting 9/11, how everything was planed for later invasions of Afganistan and Iraq, this plan is threatening the global order, this virus is a psyop of the century, USA might as well planted the virus on those military games in October of 2019 Is ‘Made in China 2025’ a Threat to Global Trade?

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only matter of time before West will go to war with China
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i do not think it is nature that created this virus.. i think this virus was indeed a biological weapon created in a lab.. somewhere... and some one .. .released it ...weather it was accidental or intentional .. i don't know . ..its terrible how we have these secret biological engineering labs for weaponry rant
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A lot more people are dying in Italy because they have an older population.
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Maybe so, but China was lying their asses off about the numbers.
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Totally 100% agree China has basically stopped reporting. They have been incinerating bodies left and right 24/7 for months as shown by Sat pic's. But what else would you expect from a Commie country... telling anyone the truth is totally against all policies
 Quoting: Matrix64


Are there any recent satellite pics? Yep, expecting China to tell the truth, is like asking a leopard to change it's spots. I have no doubt that the deep state was in on this as well.





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