Accurate figures from Italy (CFR STATS) up to march 12th.. Important video also | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3990568 United States 03/17/2020 08:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thelancet.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3990568 Italy has had 12 462 confirmed cases according to the Istituto Superiore di Sanità as of March 11, and 827 deaths. Only China has recorded more deaths due to this COVID-19 outbreak. The mean age of those who died in Italy was 81 years and more than two-thirds of these patients had diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, or cancer, or were former smokers. It is therefore true that these patients had underlying health conditions, but it is also worth noting that they had acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) pneumonia, needed respiratory support, and would not have died otherwise. Of the patients who died, 42·2% were aged 80–89 years, 32·4% were aged 70–79 years, 8·4% were aged 60–69 years, and 2·8% were aged 50–59 years (those aged >90 years made up 14·1%). The male to female ratio is 80% to 20% with an older median age for women (83·4 years for women vs 79·9 years for men). |
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(OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 78636106 United Kingdom 03/17/2020 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Although I cant find ANY big break down in numbers for the CURRENT date... in my first post.... The OP figures can be used as a basis to project forward with the bigger breakdown. Last Edited by Cynical Realist on 03/17/2020 08:14 AM IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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(OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 78636106 United Kingdom 03/17/2020 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The CFR would have risen because they have reach full capacity. IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/17/2020 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and here is the bigger picture: the exponential growth. this is what concerns me the most. 22. jan - 18. feb 0 to 2,009 deaths in 27 days 18. feb - 9. march 2,009 to 4,025 deaths in 19 days (+2,016) 9. - 17. march 4,025 to 7,477 deaths in 8 days!!! (+3,452) the mortality is doubling more and more quickly. at this rate, if this continues, we are looking at a serious problem. i hope the measures for social distancing and closures will help to slow this down to more manageable levels . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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(OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 78636106 United Kingdom 03/17/2020 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't even seen 1 dead body or have seen 1 American have a cyclone storm and die in America Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59045132 Well first of all... Its not a Weather storm... Get your facts right.... Its a CYTOKINE STORM.... Idiot IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/17/2020 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numbers in OP are from March 12. As of March 17: 2,158 Deaths 2,749 Recovered 1,851 Serious 27,980 Cases Total THIS IS WHY. So, correct me if I am wrong, BUT, If Italy has 2158 deaths from 27K cases, How is it that China has what, 3500 deaths from 135K cases? Am I missing something (sarc)? yep, sarc is right. china basically stopped reporting. they add a few cases and deaths on each day to try to keep things looking good. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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User ID: 77329196 Netherlands 03/17/2020 08:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numbers in OP are from March 12. As of March 17: 2,158 Deaths 2,749 Recovered 1,851 Serious 27,980 Cases Total THIS IS WHY. So, correct me if I am wrong, BUT, If Italy has 2158 deaths from 27K cases, How is it that China has what, 3500 deaths from 135K cases? Am I missing something (sarc)? Boes |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78347381 United States 03/17/2020 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Although I cant find ANY big break down in numbers for the CURRENT date... in my first post.... The OP figures can be used as a basis to project forward with the bigger breakdown. Quoting: Cynical Realist WASH HANDS BS you cannot present any symptoms for up to 42 days. USA is not near a timeline of this 42 days, after a larger wide spread, which means this week. 4 more weeks of data just to get the first statistics. and be somewhat accurate. these numbers out of the United States will be pointless until 4 1/2 weeks from now. results will show. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73692847 United States 03/17/2020 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good post op. If anyone didn't know this data is old, but the Italians are being very upfront with their data and are doing day to day updates here: [link to www.epicentro.iss.it (secure)] [link to www.epicentro.iss.it (secure)] the 1st link is the most recent data the 2nd is the page that will be updated with the new set when it comes in. stay informed people, I have been picking up on the liberal media causing mass panic. It is their new play to oust all the conservative governments. Notice the praise of socialized health care and how China's government is the only gov that had the ability to do what needed to be done. CNN loves praising the CCP. |
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(OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 78636106 United Kingdom 03/17/2020 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good post op. If anyone didn't know this data is old, but the Italians are being very upfront with their data and are doing day to day updates here: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73692847 [link to www.epicentro.iss.it (secure)] [link to www.epicentro.iss.it (secure)] the 1st link is the most recent data the 2nd is the page that will be updated with the new set when it comes in. stay informed people, I have been picking up on the liberal media causing mass panic. It is their new play to oust all the conservative governments. Notice the praise of socialized health care and how China's government is the only gov that had the ability to do what needed to be done. CNN loves praising the CCP. Thanks for this..... When I get a chance I will update the OP with credit to you... IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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User ID: 72623997 United States 03/17/2020 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't even seen 1 dead body or have seen 1 American have a cyclone storm and die in America Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59045132 Fucking cyclone storms are the worst This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Admiral Josh Painter The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia. -Orwell Bloody Peasant |