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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78601659 United States 03/17/2020 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My bottom line, and I've told family, is that I am not going anywhere anytime soon around anybody, because everybody out there is a potential carrier of a highly infectious virus that can be fatal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78128618 You're talking about influenza? No. I'm talking about the current COVID-19, a cocktail of SARS and HIV probably mixed up in a biolab somewhere which is wreaking havoc in Europe and about to in the US if isolation measures are not implemented fast. You're wrong. The virus is not wreaking havoc in Europe. Silliness is wreaking havoc in Europe and in the USA also. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think anyone should be having funeral services at this time. They could always have a memorial service after this threat has passed. I had a friend who also passed away suddenly last week. (They still do not know the cause of her death). I did not attend her funeral, because of this virus threat. Sorry for you loss. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77779818 It's more important to stay safe and use caution. I don't think anyone is going to be upset with you for not attending. Thank you. Sorry for your's as well. Unfortunately you're incorrect there, we're currently getting pressured to go by numerous parties, even though most everyone knows our situation. Another close friend just finished chemo and is at high risk, and is still insisting on going and is pressuring me saying if he is, I should. In the end are they going to end the friendship because I won't go, no, of course not, but the fact of etiquette and respect remains. That's why I posted the thread. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very, very few people will be faced with your dilemma because very, very few people in this country will die from Covid-19. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78601659 And you know this how? Cause of death is not the issue. If I go to a large funeral gathering, I come in contact with all those people. Some of the funeral mourners could have been exposed to the virus. So that's the dilemma. Not the dead person. The live mourners who could be spreaders. Especially after the bar gathering with 300 plus people, yeah. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56563724 United States 03/17/2020 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very, very few people will be faced with your dilemma because very, very few people in this country will die from Covid-19. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78601659 And you know this how? Cause of death is not the issue. If I go to a large funeral gathering, I come in contact with all those people. Some of the funeral mourners could have been exposed to the virus. So that's the dilemma. Not the dead person. The live mourners who could be spreaders. Especially after the bar gathering with 300 plus people, yeah. Traditionally, after the Irish wake and funeral, we go back to the family house. All the mourners join us for some food and then we drink like crazed bastards and dance. This will be an issue as far as spreading the virus. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cause of death is not the issue. If I go to a large funeral gathering, I come in contact with all those people. Some of the funeral mourners could have been exposed to the virus. So that's the dilemma. Not the dead person. The live mourners who could be spreaders. Especially after the bar gathering with 300 plus people, yeah. Traditionally, after the Irish wake and funeral, we go back to the family house. All the mourners join us for some food and then we drink like crazed bastards and dance. This will be an issue as far as spreading the virus. Exactly, and my reason for bringing this to the table. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78624732 Canada 03/17/2020 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of my very close friends passed away last Friday, under mysterious circumstances. He called his girlfriend complaining of sudden and severe breathing problems, she immediately called 911 and emergency responders arrived within 18 mins. Unfortunately he was DOA. They were able to resuscitate him, but unfortunately he was pronounced brain dead upon arrival at the ER. He remained on life support for two days, but the plug was pulled Sunday. The hospital did press this issue because they needed the ICU bed for other patients that could be saved. Quoting: SiniXster the Dread The doctors stated that his lungs had suddenly filled with fluid and he had drowned, but so far have only ruled out heart attack, and the coroners autopsy report is not yet in. We have no idea as of yet why this happened. He was a huge fan of a popular local band here, never missed a set, there was a large gathering held at a bar on Sunday by the band that the majority of his friends attended, at least 300 people. Due to virus mitigation reasons we chose not to attend. Now all those same friends, as well as his family are planning to be at his funeral on Thursday. The possibility that someone, or even many people at this funeral have been exposed to the virus is pretty high IMO, especially after the bar gathering. WTF were they thinking? I'm middle-aged and have underlying health issues that put me in the high risk category for COVID-19, my mother and fiance's father are in their mid 70's and also have high risk health issues, and we see them every weekend to help with needs. None of us can afford to be exposed if at all possible. He was an important and dear friend and we feel absolutely terrible, but it's pretty obvious that we cannot attend his funeral. As well we are pretty certain after speaking with other friends whom ARE attending that many will be upset with us for not being there. This is not an easy issue, in fact we're really struggling with it. Neither MSM, nor POTUS' Team have spoke to the issue of funerals, and what mitigation factors should be at this point. Your thoughts? I think it's pretty typical for a B00lm3r to be upset that others aren't constantly falling all over themselves to kiss your ass, even though someone died. But it's YOUR VERY DEAR friend that died, so everyone's attention should be on you, yes? And how dare other people do things without first considering what effect they have on you! If this virus isn't hype and does particularly Target oldies, then the world is going to be so lucky in about a year. Don't worry though, lol, I'm not that lucky. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78518536 United States 03/17/2020 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Write a nice letter to the family. Enclose copies of any good photos you made of the person, and lots of love. No funerals. The person had what is commonly called a "white out". Often happens to people after flu or other weakening illnesses. Lost a healthy, 50-something, strong cousin to that a few years back. From OK to dead in a couple hours. Terrible thing, that. Help the family as well as you can, from a distance. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell them you are self quarantined due to possible exposure and ask that the service be carried via an internet AV app so you can "attend" remotely. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34127198 We do this a lot when folks live too far away to attend a funeral. The funeral home has stated on their website that they're TRYING to follow state and national guidelines for mitigation and MAY ask some attendees to leave, as well as limiting the number of attendees. TRYING and MAY??? Anyway, I'm gonna call and ask them if they provide that service. Hadn't thought of that, thank you. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of my very close friends passed away last Friday, under mysterious circumstances. He called his girlfriend complaining of sudden and severe breathing problems, she immediately called 911 and emergency responders arrived within 18 mins. Unfortunately he was DOA. They were able to resuscitate him, but unfortunately he was pronounced brain dead upon arrival at the ER. He remained on life support for two days, but the plug was pulled Sunday. The hospital did press this issue because they needed the ICU bed for other patients that could be saved. Quoting: SiniXster the Dread The doctors stated that his lungs had suddenly filled with fluid and he had drowned, but so far have only ruled out heart attack, and the coroners autopsy report is not yet in. We have no idea as of yet why this happened. He was a huge fan of a popular local band here, never missed a set, there was a large gathering held at a bar on Sunday by the band that the majority of his friends attended, at least 300 people. Due to virus mitigation reasons we chose not to attend. Now all those same friends, as well as his family are planning to be at his funeral on Thursday. The possibility that someone, or even many people at this funeral have been exposed to the virus is pretty high IMO, especially after the bar gathering. WTF were they thinking? I'm middle-aged and have underlying health issues that put me in the high risk category for COVID-19, my mother and fiance's father are in their mid 70's and also have high risk health issues, and we see them every weekend to help with needs. None of us can afford to be exposed if at all possible. He was an important and dear friend and we feel absolutely terrible, but it's pretty obvious that we cannot attend his funeral. As well we are pretty certain after speaking with other friends whom ARE attending that many will be upset with us for not being there. This is not an easy issue, in fact we're really struggling with it. Neither MSM, nor POTUS' Team have spoke to the issue of funerals, and what mitigation factors should be at this point. Your thoughts? I think it's pretty typical for a B00lm3r to be upset that others aren't constantly falling all over themselves to kiss your ass, even though someone died. But it's YOUR VERY DEAR friend that died, so everyone's attention should be on you, yes? And how dare other people do things without first considering what effect they have on you! If this virus isn't hype and does particularly Target oldies, then the world is going to be so lucky in about a year. Don't worry though, lol, I'm not that lucky. What the fuck are you talking about? First off, I'm X-Gen not a fucking B00lm3r, and secondly this isn't about me, I made my decision not to go and really don't give two shits about what anyone thinks about it. Many others will face the same issues in the coming months and may struggle with the decision and the blow back, so I posed the question because it hasn't been talked about and needs to be brought to the table, not for fucking attention, douche-canoe. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Write a nice letter to the family. Enclose copies of any good photos you made of the person, and lots of love. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78518536 No funerals. The person had what is commonly called a "white out". Often happens to people after flu or other weakening illnesses. Lost a healthy, 50-something, strong cousin to that a few years back. From OK to dead in a couple hours. Terrible thing, that. Help the family as well as you can, from a distance. He was healthy as a horse with no recent illness. That had been posed by doctors and ruled out as well. As a medical professional myself, my first thought given there was no prior illness was that he possibly inhaled something that severely burned the lining of his lungs. This wasn't even hours, literally 30 minutes. Hoping to at least hear something in the next day or so. We're offering as much help as we can give under the circumstances. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78618875 United States 03/17/2020 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think anyone should be having funeral services at this time. They could always have a memorial service after this threat has passed. I had a friend who also passed away suddenly last week. (They still do not know the cause of her death). I did not attend her funeral, because of this virus threat. Sorry for you loss. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77779818 It's more important to stay safe and use caution. I don't think anyone is going to be upset with you for not attending. Yeah my mom just died the same way OP's friend did and we're just having a small graveside service. OP I'm so sorry for your loss, I'm sure your friend would understand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78618875 United States 03/17/2020 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Write a nice letter to the family. Enclose copies of any good photos you made of the person, and lots of love. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78518536 No funerals. The person had what is commonly called a "white out". Often happens to people after flu or other weakening illnesses. Lost a healthy, 50-something, strong cousin to that a few years back. From OK to dead in a couple hours. Terrible thing, that. Help the family as well as you can, from a distance. He was healthy as a horse with no recent illness. That had been posed by doctors and ruled out as well. As a medical professional myself, my first thought given there was no prior illness was that he possibly inhaled something that severely burned the lining of his lungs. This wasn't even hours, literally 30 minutes. Hoping to at least hear something in the next day or so. We're offering as much help as we can give under the circumstances. My mom was the same way, fine one day, respiratory failure the next and gone. Happened so fast. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40738770 Canada 03/17/2020 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of my very close friends passed away last Friday, under mysterious circumstances. He called his girlfriend complaining of sudden and severe breathing problems, she immediately called 911 and emergency responders arrived within 18 mins. Unfortunately he was DOA. They were able to resuscitate him, but unfortunately he was pronounced brain dead upon arrival at the ER. He remained on life support for two days, but the plug was pulled Sunday. The hospital did press this issue because they needed the ICU bed for other patients that could be saved. Quoting: SiniXster the Dread The doctors stated that his lungs had suddenly filled with fluid and he had drowned, but so far have only ruled out heart attack, and the coroners autopsy report is not yet in. We have no idea as of yet why this happened. He was a huge fan of a popular local band here, never missed a set, there was a large gathering held at a bar on Sunday by the band that the majority of his friends attended, at least 300 people. Due to virus mitigation reasons we chose not to attend. Now all those same friends, as well as his family are planning to be at his funeral on Thursday. The possibility that someone, or even many people at this funeral have been exposed to the virus is pretty high IMO, especially after the bar gathering. WTF were they thinking? I'm middle-aged and have underlying health issues that put me in the high risk category for COVID-19, my mother and fiance's father are in their mid 70's and also have high risk health issues, and we see them every weekend to help with needs. None of us can afford to be exposed if at all possible. He was an important and dear friend and we feel absolutely terrible, but it's pretty obvious that we cannot attend his funeral. As well we are pretty certain after speaking with other friends whom ARE attending that many will be upset with us for not being there. This is not an easy issue, in fact we're really struggling with it. Neither MSM, nor POTUS' Team have spoke to the issue of funerals, and what mitigation factors should be at this point. Your thoughts? PEOPLE WILL BE CREMATED IN MASS GRAVES. THERE WILL BE NO FUNERALS OR VISITATION. WHEN THE PERSON DIES, THEY WILL BE PUT OUTSIDE, PICKED UP AND DISPOSED OF. YOU CANNOT RISK THE BUBONIC PLAQUE CAUSED BY BUGS FROM DEAD PEOPLE AND ANIMALS BY LACK OF ACTION OR CULTURAL DESIRES. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think anyone should be having funeral services at this time. They could always have a memorial service after this threat has passed. I had a friend who also passed away suddenly last week. (They still do not know the cause of her death). I did not attend her funeral, because of this virus threat. Sorry for you loss. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77779818 It's more important to stay safe and use caution. I don't think anyone is going to be upset with you for not attending. Yeah my mom just died the same way OP's friend did and we're just having a small graveside service. OP I'm so sorry for your loss, I'm sure your friend would understand. I'm sure he would, I feel terrible myself because I truly want to see him off properly and in my own way, which would include the funeral and getting together with everyone to celebrate his life. Thank you, I'm very sorry for yours as well. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Write a nice letter to the family. Enclose copies of any good photos you made of the person, and lots of love. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78518536 No funerals. The person had what is commonly called a "white out". Often happens to people after flu or other weakening illnesses. Lost a healthy, 50-something, strong cousin to that a few years back. From OK to dead in a couple hours. Terrible thing, that. Help the family as well as you can, from a distance. He was healthy as a horse with no recent illness. That had been posed by doctors and ruled out as well. As a medical professional myself, my first thought given there was no prior illness was that he possibly inhaled something that severely burned the lining of his lungs. This wasn't even hours, literally 30 minutes. Hoping to at least hear something in the next day or so. We're offering as much help as we can give under the circumstances. My mom was the same way, fine one day, respiratory failure the next and gone. Happened so fast. :Hugging: |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One of my very close friends passed away last Friday, under mysterious circumstances. He called his girlfriend complaining of sudden and severe breathing problems, she immediately called 911 and emergency responders arrived within 18 mins. Unfortunately he was DOA. They were able to resuscitate him, but unfortunately he was pronounced brain dead upon arrival at the ER. He remained on life support for two days, but the plug was pulled Sunday. The hospital did press this issue because they needed the ICU bed for other patients that could be saved. Quoting: SiniXster the Dread The doctors stated that his lungs had suddenly filled with fluid and he had drowned, but so far have only ruled out heart attack, and the coroners autopsy report is not yet in. We have no idea as of yet why this happened. He was a huge fan of a popular local band here, never missed a set, there was a large gathering held at a bar on Sunday by the band that the majority of his friends attended, at least 300 people. Due to virus mitigation reasons we chose not to attend. Now all those same friends, as well as his family are planning to be at his funeral on Thursday. The possibility that someone, or even many people at this funeral have been exposed to the virus is pretty high IMO, especially after the bar gathering. WTF were they thinking? I'm middle-aged and have underlying health issues that put me in the high risk category for COVID-19, my mother and fiance's father are in their mid 70's and also have high risk health issues, and we see them every weekend to help with needs. None of us can afford to be exposed if at all possible. He was an important and dear friend and we feel absolutely terrible, but it's pretty obvious that we cannot attend his funeral. As well we are pretty certain after speaking with other friends whom ARE attending that many will be upset with us for not being there. This is not an easy issue, in fact we're really struggling with it. Neither MSM, nor POTUS' Team have spoke to the issue of funerals, and what mitigation factors should be at this point. Your thoughts? PEOPLE WILL BE CREMATED IN MASS GRAVES. THERE WILL BE NO FUNERALS OR VISITATION. WHEN THE PERSON DIES, THEY WILL BE PUT OUTSIDE, PICKED UP AND DISPOSED OF. YOU CANNOT RISK THE BUBONIC PLAQUE CAUSED BY BUGS FROM DEAD PEOPLE AND ANIMALS BY LACK OF ACTION OR CULTURAL DESIRES. Whatever they choose to do is what it is, the problem is this issue is not being confronted here in the States yet, and the longer it goes on the more people will be expecting guidence. |
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User ID: 44531302 United States 03/17/2020 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My thoughts. He’s not going to care if you go to his funeral. He won’t be there, just his empty meat sack. That being said, funerals are public gatherings and public gatherings spread the virus. Don’t go. As far as burial, now his family has options. Soon, it’s going to be mass graves & incinerators. Bad or missing keyboard. Press F1 to continue.... |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My thoughts. He’s not going to care if you go to his funeral. He won’t be there, just his empty meat sack. That being said, funerals are public gatherings and public gatherings spread the virus. Don’t go. Quoting: Off Switch As far as burial, now his family has options. Soon, it’s going to be mass graves & incinerators. Lol, I always love unique and blunt reflections. And yeah, probably sooner rather than later. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it was your funeral, would you want family & friends to risk their lives? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78593329 Your friend would likely not want to endanger his loved ones either. I am sorry for yours & their loss. I've already told my family, no funeral, let them cremate me and have a party later where I want my ashes spread. I've honestly been very surprised at how many friends aren't even considering any of this, I've been the only one to speak out. Thank you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77060631 United States 03/17/2020 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yea, my mom died last Sunday. She was living with my brother, a baptist preacher. He called me and told me of the situation concerning where she will be buried. It is a nine hour drive from my house. We've decided to have a very small service, yet I'm worried about not being able to find accommodations near the funeral home. Will hotels be open? Right now there are no restaurants serving meals, except drive through. Should I go and figure out things as I come across the problems or just sit tight and pay my respects at a later date? What to do, what to do.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 127 United States 03/17/2020 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The NFDA released guidelines for funeral directors here if you want to have a read: [link to www.nfda.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77919050 United States 03/17/2020 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very, very few people will be faced with your dilemma because very, very few people in this country will die from Covid-19. My uncle just passed from pneumonia in hospice we skipped the funeral. There will be alot of unconfirmed cases to keep The panic down. Visit the grave later If a friend drops u because of this they aren't your friend or family. Keep ur family safe that is all you can do. On another note security film for windows is very cheap Right now on amazon. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75668073 United States 03/17/2020 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mother just ended chemo for stage four pancreatic as it's no longer effective on her markers. Funeral is already planned, videos made, no hospice yet but they've been looking for when the time comes. So yeah, this kinda fucking sucks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78352241 That's terrible, I'm so sorry to hear, all my best to you and your family. |