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This guy breaks it all down and explains why such drastic measures are being taken regarding SARS-CoV-2 aka COVID-19.

39 minute video

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 Quoting: TheGasMan II


VERY accurate presentation. Guy is no doubt a doctor or scientist. NOT a politician/lawyer, big-businessman or artist-entertainer.


However, an Israeli scientist says its slowing down. His wife is an artist-entertainer, though it should not affect his reasoning..


Israeli Nobel Laureate: Coronavirus spread is slowing


Michael Levitt, an American-British-Israeli biophysicist who won the 2013 Nobel prize for chemistry for "the development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems," has become something of a household name in China over the last few months. Although his specialty is not in epidemiology, he accurately forecast the slowing down of the spread of the virus in February, giving hope to those affected by the lockdown.

Levitt's wife, Shoshan Brosh, is a researcher of Chinese art, meaning that the couple regularly travels between America, Israel and China. Consequently, when the virus broke out in Hubei province, Levitt wrote to his Chinese friends in support.


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I thnk both are partially right. A lot of people have natural immunuty, through as yet unknown mechanisms. So while the virus will spread around, it wont kill many people, except some elderly ones and those with health problems.

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Al a hoax. Its 5g testing in these places that cause these symptoms.its a weapon
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No 5G in Iran. Actually they even have frequent electricity outages, due to sanctions.

This is due to Chinese stupidity of breeding and consuming a wide variety of animals, like bats and pangolins.

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Damn man 39 minutes? Can you highlight what the main points of the video are a least?
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He basically breaks down what the virus is, how it spreads and how even the best case scenarios will overwhelm the medical system.

I found it very informative and very concerning.
 Quoting: TheGasMan II


We who have been monitoring this on GLP knew this back in January. Nobody else wanted to believe it was a problem back then.
 Quoting: Cascadia


Trump has taken critical healthcare away from 30 million US citizens !!

And given it to 30 million illegals in the USA.

Remember Trump's campaign promise to deport all illegals in the USA ? Well Trump lied, he never deported them, restricted ICE to only deport serious criminal illegals.

All those 30 million illegals Trump lied about deporting will now will take beds, doctors care, medicine, etc away from 30 million desperate US citizens.

Many US citizens will die now because Trump lied.
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Just fuck you..
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Damn man 39 minutes? Can you highlight what the main points of the video are a least?
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Easy. Even with extreme social distancing - we are fucked. At this point, the only different is how fucked we are.
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Damn man 39 minutes? Can you highlight what the main points of the video are a least?
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Easy. Even with extreme social distancing - we are fucked. At this point, the only different is how fucked we are.
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Maybe not.

As the Israeli Nobel prize winner (whose wife is an artist-entertainer, as are most women)....said...[see post above]....

....in a cruise ship with very close quarters confinement for weeks......

only 20% were infected....

hence a lot of people could have natural immunity to the virus, through as yet unknown mechanisms....

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Thanks Gasman...

This video really helped me to wrap my mind around all of
this COVD-19 material that has flooded the Forum and the
media thus far. I think it is well worth the 39 minutes and
if you only wish to check certain topics in the outline
below I have provided the "minute marks" you can find them
at.

Hope this helps:


Points of interest (pretty basic stuff):

Humans carry on average about 5 different viral infections at any given time.
(Your immune system fights them off but they're just hanging in there.)

SARS-2 COVID-19 is the name of the VIRUS, while COVID-19 indicates the
actual disease (much like HIV is the virus and AIDS is the disease--differnet
designations.)

He explains the virus dynamics (you need to watch this part--talks about how
it enters the cell, uses it as a host and replicates, etc.) Because the COVD-19
is an "envelope virus" (it puts on the membrane of YOUR own cell like a winter coat)
--which is good because this can be destroyed by most detergents/soaps.

Proteins on the surface of the virus look like a "crown" which is why the
name "corona" is used for the name. When you hear "novel" in front of the virus
name it means the PROTEINS of the virus are BRAND NEW and no one has an immunity
already in place against them. "Novel" means NEW.

This is 5 minutes into the 40 minute presentation.

Question: Why is the "novel virus" so dangerous? (Lessons learned from normal flu.)

1. The world has never seen this virus before. (IMHO this should explain to people
who want an "instant cure" for this illness WHY IT WILL TAKE TIME to get a handle
on a cure. Scientists haven't seen it before, so there is ZERO RESEARCH to be
able to just run and make a vaccine for it...but it is coming.) THERE IS NO
IMMUNITY...NOT A SINGLE PERSON...PERIOD.

2. "Seasonal flu" is the circulation of viruses that the human population's immune
systems ALREADY RECOGNIZE.

3. When a "novel flu" appears...it travels very fast and is very contageous...this
is when they label the "novel virus" a PANDEMIC FLU.

4. "Seasonal flu" is NOT novel. The flu season is just a slight change in already
circulating flu viruses. The NOVEL virus spreads extremely fast. Pandemic flu
is...NASTY STUFF.

5. 1918 Spanish Flu is the Grand daddy of flu pandemics. It killed 50,000,000 people
world-wide with 676,000 people in the U.S.A. mortality rate was 2%. Swine flu was
only .05%. Seasonal flu this year has killed 18,000--explains it on the chart .06%
mortality rate.

6. 81% cases get mild "cold-like" symptoms (the good news) but the bad symptoms
14% pneumonia then 5% of those infected = critical sepsis and respiratory failure.
50% death rate of those 5% will pass.

7. At the 26 min mark narrator explains the concern is to keep the CURVE FLATTENED
so our health care is NOT overwhelmed. (Graph at 29 minute mark shows "what doing
nothing--no lock-downs--would mean...versus..."doing something.") Graphic, by the
way, puts the hypothetical out between April thru June 2020.

CHART ABOUT SPANISH FLU AND OTHERS IS AT 7:00 MIN MARK.


Goes on to explain SARS and MERS--fewer than 1,000 deaths world wide 10 min. mark.
SARS mortality was 9%--while MERS was 35% but they got a handle on it with drugs.
COVD-19 mortality percentage is 3% (10 min mark.) SARS (Sudden Acute Respitory Syndrome)
was very sudden and was successfully contained. SARS did NOT have this strange "contagion
even if NOT symptomatic" so it was easier to contain early on.

UP TO 2 WEEKS TO SHOW SYMPTOMS in the COVD-19 virus--victims MOST contagious by day
5 of getting the virus. If your symptoms don't even show up for over 1 week you can
be shedding the VIRUS AT DAY 5 WITHOUT SYMPTOMS with maximum contagion. This makes it
very difficult to contain. 14 min mark in presentation shows charts of contagion, etc.

ALSO: Without the ability to TEST ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE...it spreads rapidly without
our ability to contain it. Next--dropplet contagion is most dangerous...airborne means
the "droplets" are so tiny they aerosolize into the air. VIRUS LIVES ON SURFACES
--ESPECIALLY THE HANDS. Avoid touching your face, nose, eyes, mouth. Indirect contact
where virus falls onto a doornob STAY ALIVE FOR AT LEAST SEVERAL HOURS TO SEVERAL DAYS
ON METAL/PLASTIC. "Your hands are NOT YOUR FRIENDS right now...keep your hands clean
and don't touch stuff!" (Disinfect your living areas/working areas.)
18 minute mark in presentation. CHART ON TRANSMISSION HERE.

Can COVD-19 be contained? China's Wuhan province a good example they were able
to contain it--but MAJOR LOCK DOWN. Depends on whether or not U.S. can get the
same level of LOCK DOWN as China was able to do. SELF-QUARANTINE IF YOU ARE ILL.
(...WHICH is obvious, but if there are no symptoms many will go to work and carry
on as if they are fine.)

24 Minute mark (with a really awful chart for "world-wide spread" at 24:30 min mark):


HOW BAD IS IT? THE R-NOT RATE NOW IS 2.5...for every infection the person passes it
on to 2 1/2 people...number of cases DOUBLES every week at this rate.
24 minute mark shows THE CURVE FOR EXPONENTIAL RATES FOR VARIOUS COUNTRIES.

Question: How many are infected in the U.S.A. right now?

We have no idea. (24:54 min mark.)


But very interesting comment about the "rate curve" verses the LOCK DOWN POINT
FOR WUHAN and what that means for the curve. (Pretty scary when you consider that
the U.S. is NOT locked down except for some cities right now 3-19-2020)

Narrator suggests you MULTIPLY by at least 10Xs the number stats that are being
announced for the U.S. on the news. (Watch that Wuhan China explanation at the 24:50 min
mark to understand why they believe this based on China--they thought there were only
350 cases when there were actually cases in the 1,000s.)
CHART AT 26 MINUTES (talks about multiplying the numbers)

IMPORTANCE TO "SUPPRESS" THE CURVE? diagram at the 27 minute mark
...what would the
curve look like without a lock down versus trying to get people to stay home.
(Dotted line in this graphic represents "how many the hospitals will be able to
handle and at what point is the health-care system OVERWHELMED?"

31 Minute mark--graphic shows % of mild versus critical symptoms from COVD-19.

THIS discussion I found most concerning as he has put together various scenarios
where 10%...20%...25%--with the actual models showing 50% catchy-rate actually get
the virus in JUST ONE COUNTY (his county)...
it shows how many would need critical ICU intervention to save their lives...
can the few hospitals (we have 3 hospitals in our immediate county with only about
20 ICU beds) actually handle 1,000 critical care patients? Um...no. Graph at 32 min. mark.

12 days is average hospital stay required to take a critical care person to
level where he/she doesn't need ICU care. Narrator's county has 10 beds..with the
modeled infection rate at 50% with 2800 cases will need it! Woah.

The majority watching the video will ONLY HAVE MILD SYMPTOMS and no hospitalization...
the problem lies with the SERIOUS CASES due to our hospitals NOT having the "carrying
capacity" to meet the demand for ICU critical care.

(35 Minute mark) Narrator says: "THIS is why we need to take the lock-downs and
self-isolation measures SERIOUSLY." He goes on to report about people in NY thinking
they can go to Saracuse hospitals rather than the small town hospitals?...He says that
will NOT work.

Narrator asks:

HOW MUCH ARE WE WILLING TO DO TO PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS UNDER THESE NUMBERS.
WE MUST "FLATTEN THIS CURVE"...ONLY EXTREME MEASURES WILL HELP US SO PLEASE HONOR
THE DIRECTIVE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITIES!

END OUTLINE

I thought I pretty much had a good handle on the COVD-19
information before watching this video...I didn't...and
I'm really appreciating your posting this. It tells the
very LATEST with studies on the example from China and
what can be expected here. Seriously important video.

cheers
S.S.PUG
 Quoting: SaintPattysPug


Thanks for that summary and taking your time. It's all true and a reason to respect this is made clear in all of that if people still aren't.
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5 stars,big thank you and a


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will overwhelm the medical system.
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SO WHAT? You think that's bad? Wait until the entire global economy collapses and becomes impossible to restart. You're going to have billions killed, not a few tens of thousands.

Shutting everything down like this is absolute suicide.
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He does a great job explaining the situation.

Well worth a watch.

Thanks OP thumbs
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Hope he doesn't have the virus. He was coughing a lot in the video.

:p

Shame it comes down to a simple cough that people already try to label you as your sick with the CV.
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Maybe he does....but he is likely in the 80%.

This virus is not a death sentence for the masses.


This is why when they test - they are going find it. Its been out. Lots of people have it.

So NOW - with testing - the hysteria will go off the charts.

Really good video. Worth the watch.
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Thanks Gasman...

This video really helped me to wrap my mind around all of
this COVD-19 material that has flooded the Forum and the
media thus far. I think it is well worth the 39 minutes and
if you only wish to check certain topics in the outline
below I have provided the "minute marks" you can find them
at.

Hope this helps:


Points of interest (pretty basic stuff):

Humans carry on average about 5 different viral infections at any given time.
(Your immune system fights them off but they're just hanging in there.)

SARS-2 COVID-19 is the name of the VIRUS, while COVID-19 indicates the
actual disease (much like HIV is the virus and AIDS is the disease--differnet
designations.)

He explains the virus dynamics (you need to watch this part--talks about how
it enters the cell, uses it as a host and replicates, etc.) Because the COVD-19
is an "envelope virus" (it puts on the membrane of YOUR own cell like a winter coat)
--which is good because this can be destroyed by most detergents/soaps.

Proteins on the surface of the virus look like a "crown" which is why the
name "corona" is used for the name. When you hear "novel" in front of the virus
name it means the PROTEINS of the virus are BRAND NEW and no one has an immunity
already in place against them. "Novel" means NEW.

This is 5 minutes into the 40 minute presentation.

Question: Why is the "novel virus" so dangerous? (Lessons learned from normal flu.)

1. The world has never seen this virus before. (IMHO this should explain to people
who want an "instant cure" for this illness WHY IT WILL TAKE TIME to get a handle
on a cure. Scientists haven't seen it before, so there is ZERO RESEARCH to be
able to just run and make a vaccine for it...but it is coming.) THERE IS NO
IMMUNITY...NOT A SINGLE PERSON...PERIOD.

2. "Seasonal flu" is the circulation of viruses that the human population's immune
systems ALREADY RECOGNIZE.

3. When a "novel flu" appears...it travels very fast and is very contageous...this
is when they label the "novel virus" a PANDEMIC FLU.

4. "Seasonal flu" is NOT novel. The flu season is just a slight change in already
circulating flu viruses. The NOVEL virus spreads extremely fast. Pandemic flu
is...NASTY STUFF.

5. 1918 Spanish Flu is the Grand daddy of flu pandemics. It killed 50,000,000 people
world-wide with 676,000 people in the U.S.A. mortality rate was 2%. Swine flu was
only .05%. Seasonal flu this year has killed 18,000--explains it on the chart .06%
mortality rate.

6. 81% cases get mild "cold-like" symptoms (the good news) but the bad symptoms
14% pneumonia then 5% of those infected = critical sepsis and respiratory failure.
50% death rate of those 5% will pass.

7. At the 26 min mark narrator explains the concern is to keep the CURVE FLATTENED
so our health care is NOT overwhelmed. (Graph at 29 minute mark shows "what doing
nothing--no lock-downs--would mean...versus..."doing something.") Graphic, by the
way, puts the hypothetical out between April thru June 2020.

CHART ABOUT SPANISH FLU AND OTHERS IS AT 7:00 MIN MARK.


Goes on to explain SARS and MERS--fewer than 1,000 deaths world wide 10 min. mark.
SARS mortality was 9%--while MERS was 35% but they got a handle on it with drugs.
COVD-19 mortality percentage is 3% (10 min mark.) SARS (Sudden Acute Respitory Syndrome)
was very sudden and was successfully contained. SARS did NOT have this strange "contagion
even if NOT symptomatic" so it was easier to contain early on.

UP TO 2 WEEKS TO SHOW SYMPTOMS in the COVD-19 virus--victims MOST contagious by day
5 of getting the virus. If your symptoms don't even show up for over 1 week you can
be shedding the VIRUS AT DAY 5 WITHOUT SYMPTOMS with maximum contagion. This makes it
very difficult to contain. 14 min mark in presentation shows charts of contagion, etc.

ALSO: Without the ability to TEST ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE...it spreads rapidly without
our ability to contain it. Next--dropplet contagion is most dangerous...airborne means
the "droplets" are so tiny they aerosolize into the air. VIRUS LIVES ON SURFACES
--ESPECIALLY THE HANDS. Avoid touching your face, nose, eyes, mouth. Indirect contact
where virus falls onto a doornob STAY ALIVE FOR AT LEAST SEVERAL HOURS TO SEVERAL DAYS
ON METAL/PLASTIC. "Your hands are NOT YOUR FRIENDS right now...keep your hands clean
and don't touch stuff!" (Disinfect your living areas/working areas.)
18 minute mark in presentation. CHART ON TRANSMISSION HERE.

Can COVD-19 be contained? China's Wuhan province a good example they were able
to contain it--but MAJOR LOCK DOWN. Depends on whether or not U.S. can get the
same level of LOCK DOWN as China was able to do. SELF-QUARANTINE IF YOU ARE ILL.
(...WHICH is obvious, but if there are no symptoms many will go to work and carry
on as if they are fine.)

24 Minute mark (with a really awful chart for "world-wide spread" at 24:30 min mark):


HOW BAD IS IT? THE R-NOT RATE NOW IS 2.5...for every infection the person passes it
on to 2 1/2 people...number of cases DOUBLES every week at this rate.
24 minute mark shows THE CURVE FOR EXPONENTIAL RATES FOR VARIOUS COUNTRIES.

Question: How many are infected in the U.S.A. right now?

We have no idea. (24:54 min mark.)


But very interesting comment about the "rate curve" verses the LOCK DOWN POINT
FOR WUHAN and what that means for the curve. (Pretty scary when you consider that
the U.S. is NOT locked down except for some cities right now 3-19-2020)

Narrator suggests you MULTIPLY by at least 10Xs the number stats that are being
announced for the U.S. on the news. (Watch that Wuhan China explanation at the 24:50 min
mark to understand why they believe this based on China--they thought there were only
350 cases when there were actually cases in the 1,000s.)
CHART AT 26 MINUTES (talks about multiplying the numbers)

IMPORTANCE TO "SUPPRESS" THE CURVE? diagram at the 27 minute mark
...what would the
curve look like without a lock down versus trying to get people to stay home.
(Dotted line in this graphic represents "how many the hospitals will be able to
handle and at what point is the health-care system OVERWHELMED?"

31 Minute mark--graphic shows % of mild versus critical symptoms from COVD-19.

THIS discussion I found most concerning as he has put together various scenarios
where 10%...20%...25%--with the actual models showing 50% catchy-rate actually get
the virus in JUST ONE COUNTY (his county)...
it shows how many would need critical ICU intervention to save their lives...
can the few hospitals (we have 3 hospitals in our immediate county with only about
20 ICU beds) actually handle 1,000 critical care patients? Um...no. Graph at 32 min. mark.

12 days is average hospital stay required to take a critical care person to
level where he/she doesn't need ICU care. Narrator's county has 10 beds..with the
modeled infection rate at 50% with 2800 cases will need it! Woah.

The majority watching the video will ONLY HAVE MILD SYMPTOMS and no hospitalization...
the problem lies with the SERIOUS CASES due to our hospitals NOT having the "carrying
capacity" to meet the demand for ICU critical care.

(35 Minute mark) Narrator says: "THIS is why we need to take the lock-downs and
self-isolation measures SERIOUSLY." He goes on to report about people in NY thinking
they can go to Saracuse hospitals rather than the small town hospitals?...He says that
will NOT work.

Narrator asks:

HOW MUCH ARE WE WILLING TO DO TO PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS UNDER THESE NUMBERS.
WE MUST "FLATTEN THIS CURVE"...ONLY EXTREME MEASURES WILL HELP US SO PLEASE HONOR
THE DIRECTIVE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITIES!

END OUTLINE

I thought I pretty much had a good handle on the COVD-19
information before watching this video...I didn't...and
I'm really appreciating your posting this. It tells the
very LATEST with studies on the example from China and
what can be expected here. Seriously important video.

cheers
S.S.PUG
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Awesome notes! Thank you for your work in this way.
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This guy breaks it all down and explains why such drastic measures are being taken regarding SARS-CoV-2 aka COVID-19.

39 minute video

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Very precise and informative presentation from this guy.

I now know a lot more about the Covid-19 virus.

Well worth the 39 minutes.

thanksTLR
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Damn man 39 minutes? Can you highlight what the main points of the video are a least?
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He basically breaks down what the virus is, how it spreads and how even the best case scenarios will overwhelm the medical system.

I found it very informative and very concerning.
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We who have been monitoring this on GLP knew this back in January. Nobody else wanted to believe it was a problem back then.
 Quoting: Cascadia


~~~~~~~
So, so true... China flights into LA 12 weeks & no Wuhan here at all. We were told by Governor it will worsen within 8 weeks, as he knows that 5G is being installed in schools, Colleges, malls etc. (Nationwide) while we are all hiding from a virus that has taken approximately 100 Nationwide (usually more in past years) out of 330 Million. 60 Gigahertz starves oxygen from cells & causes lung problems!!! There is no doubt in my mind that we have problems far greater than any Coronavirus!! I hear jets at 12:20 am every night lately. They sound as if at a high altitude... At times every 30 minutes or so. The duration is about 10 minutes at a time. There is a Globalist Agenda unfolding. ** Father, have mercy on our population ~ California & all United States & World populations, send in Warrior Angels Of Protection, your “Full Armor” Ephesians 6:11... Bind the enemy & cast all diabolical evil into the pit... In Jesus Mighty Name!!
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Thanks! This is a really good video.
Italy has trippled the number of infected since last thursday!
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Good video and explained well.Thanks for posting OP.
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watch youtube videos at 2x speed, still very listenable and takes half the time.
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Damn man 39 minutes? Can you highlight what the main points of the video are a least?
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He basically breaks down what the virus is, how it spreads and how even the best case scenarios will overwhelm the medical system.

I found it very informative and very concerning.
 Quoting: TheGasMan II


We who have been monitoring this on GLP knew this back in January. Nobody else wanted to believe it was a problem back then.
 Quoting: Cascadia


I know, this is mainly for those behind the curve.

Basic, layman's terms.

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^This - I forwarded to my adult children who aren't taking this seriously enough. I don't want them to live in panic but want them to be aware.
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Check out the "crowns" of the virus in the graphics at 4:00 in the OP video.

The "Novel Corona" virus. New Crown.

And here are Prince Charles speaking at the WEF in Davos in January, talking about how the world needs "a new economic system or the planet will burn". Scroll slightly down for picture:

[link to www.xinhuanet.com]

And finally here are the logo for the UN "Agenda 2030" NWO project:

[link to sustainabledevelopment.un.org (secure)]

Pretty obvious if you ask me.
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He basically breaks down what the virus is, how it spreads and how even the best case scenarios will overwhelm the medical system.

I found it very informative and very concerning.
 Quoting: TheGasMan II


We who have been monitoring this on GLP knew this back in January. Nobody else wanted to believe it was a problem back then.
 Quoting: Cascadia


Trump has taken critical healthcare away from 30 million US citizens !!

And given it to 30 million illegals in the USA.

Remember Trump's campaign promise to deport all illegals in the USA ? Well Trump lied, he never deported them, restricted ICE to only deport serious criminal illegals.

All those 30 million illegals Trump lied about deporting will now will take beds, doctors care, medicine, etc away from 30 million desperate US citizens.

Many US citizens will die now because Trump lied.
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Just fuck you..
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Yep. That's what everyone says when they know they're fucked. Bye bye cupcake.
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Damn man 39 minutes? Can you highlight what the main points of the video are a least?
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He basically breaks down what the virus is, how it spreads and how even the best case scenarios will overwhelm the medical system.

I found it very informative and very concerning.
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We who have been monitoring this on GLP knew this back in January. Nobody else wanted to believe it was a problem back then.
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Trump has taken critical healthcare away from 30 million US citizens !!

And given it to 30 million illegals in the USA.

Remember Trump's campaign promise to deport all illegals in the USA ? Well Trump lied, he never deported them, restricted ICE to only deport serious criminal illegals.

All those 30 million illegals Trump lied about deporting will now will take beds, doctors care, medicine, etc away from 30 million desperate US citizens.

Many US citizens will die now because Trump lied.
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Calm oneself. Really.

Videos are egos rampant; no time.

We're golden. Calm, not Grease; is the word.

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This guy breaks it all down and explains why such drastic measures are being taken regarding SARS-CoV-2 aka COVID-19.

39 minute video

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

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I absolutely believe that China has been burning bodies to cover up the numbers of dead. Thus lying to the world about how deadly the L strain of this virus is. Much more deadly than the S strain which is also going around.
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Aren't there 5 strains?
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Thanks Gasman...

This video really helped me to wrap my mind around all of
this COVD-19 material that has flooded the Forum and the
media thus far. I think it is well worth the 39 minutes and
if you only wish to check certain topics in the outline
below I have provided the "minute marks" you can find them
at.

Hope this helps:


Points of interest (pretty basic stuff):

Humans carry on average about 5 different viral infections at any given time.
(Your immune system fights them off but they're just hanging in there.)

SARS-2 COVID-19 is the name of the VIRUS, while COVID-19 indicates the
actual disease (much like HIV is the virus and AIDS is the disease--differnet
designations.)

He explains the virus dynamics (you need to watch this part--talks about how
it enters the cell, uses it as a host and replicates, etc.) Because the COVD-19
is an "envelope virus" (it puts on the membrane of YOUR own cell like a winter coat)
--which is good because this can be destroyed by most detergents/soaps.

Proteins on the surface of the virus look like a "crown" which is why the
name "corona" is used for the name. When you hear "novel" in front of the virus
name it means the PROTEINS of the virus are BRAND NEW and no one has an immunity
already in place against them. "Novel" means NEW.

This is 5 minutes into the 40 minute presentation.

Question: Why is the "novel virus" so dangerous? (Lessons learned from normal flu.)

1. The world has never seen this virus before. (IMHO this should explain to people
who want an "instant cure" for this illness WHY IT WILL TAKE TIME to get a handle
on a cure. Scientists haven't seen it before, so there is ZERO RESEARCH to be
able to just run and make a vaccine for it...but it is coming.) THERE IS NO
IMMUNITY...NOT A SINGLE PERSON...PERIOD.

2. "Seasonal flu" is the circulation of viruses that the human population's immune
systems ALREADY RECOGNIZE.

3. When a "novel flu" appears...it travels very fast and is very contageous...this
is when they label the "novel virus" a PANDEMIC FLU.

4. "Seasonal flu" is NOT novel. The flu season is just a slight change in already
circulating flu viruses. The NOVEL virus spreads extremely fast. Pandemic flu
is...NASTY STUFF.

5. 1918 Spanish Flu is the Grand daddy of flu pandemics. It killed 50,000,000 people
world-wide with 676,000 people in the U.S.A. mortality rate was 2%. Swine flu was
only .05%. Seasonal flu this year has killed 18,000--explains it on the chart .06%
mortality rate.

6. 81% cases get mild "cold-like" symptoms (the good news) but the bad symptoms
14% pneumonia then 5% of those infected = critical sepsis and respiratory failure.
50% death rate of those 5% will pass.

7. At the 26 min mark narrator explains the concern is to keep the CURVE FLATTENED
so our health care is NOT overwhelmed. (Graph at 29 minute mark shows "what doing
nothing--no lock-downs--would mean...versus..."doing something.") Graphic, by the
way, puts the hypothetical out between April thru June 2020.

CHART ABOUT SPANISH FLU AND OTHERS IS AT 7:00 MIN MARK.


Goes on to explain SARS and MERS--fewer than 1,000 deaths world wide 10 min. mark.
SARS mortality was 9%--while MERS was 35% but they got a handle on it with drugs.
COVD-19 mortality percentage is 3% (10 min mark.) SARS (Sudden Acute Respitory Syndrome)
was very sudden and was successfully contained. SARS did NOT have this strange "contagion
even if NOT symptomatic" so it was easier to contain early on.

UP TO 2 WEEKS TO SHOW SYMPTOMS in the COVD-19 virus--victims MOST contagious by day
5 of getting the virus. If your symptoms don't even show up for over 1 week you can
be shedding the VIRUS AT DAY 5 WITHOUT SYMPTOMS with maximum contagion. This makes it
very difficult to contain. 14 min mark in presentation shows charts of contagion, etc.

ALSO: Without the ability to TEST ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE...it spreads rapidly without
our ability to contain it. Next--dropplet contagion is most dangerous...airborne means
the "droplets" are so tiny they aerosolize into the air. VIRUS LIVES ON SURFACES
--ESPECIALLY THE HANDS. Avoid touching your face, nose, eyes, mouth. Indirect contact
where virus falls onto a doornob STAY ALIVE FOR AT LEAST SEVERAL HOURS TO SEVERAL DAYS
ON METAL/PLASTIC. "Your hands are NOT YOUR FRIENDS right now...keep your hands clean
and don't touch stuff!" (Disinfect your living areas/working areas.)
18 minute mark in presentation. CHART ON TRANSMISSION HERE.

Can COVD-19 be contained? China's Wuhan province a good example they were able
to contain it--but MAJOR LOCK DOWN. Depends on whether or not U.S. can get the
same level of LOCK DOWN as China was able to do. SELF-QUARANTINE IF YOU ARE ILL.
(...WHICH is obvious, but if there are no symptoms many will go to work and carry
on as if they are fine.)

24 Minute mark (with a really awful chart for "world-wide spread" at 24:30 min mark):


HOW BAD IS IT? THE R-NOT RATE NOW IS 2.5...for every infection the person passes it
on to 2 1/2 people...number of cases DOUBLES every week at this rate.
24 minute mark shows THE CURVE FOR EXPONENTIAL RATES FOR VARIOUS COUNTRIES.

Question: How many are infected in the U.S.A. right now?

We have no idea. (24:54 min mark.)


But very interesting comment about the "rate curve" verses the LOCK DOWN POINT
FOR WUHAN and what that means for the curve. (Pretty scary when you consider that
the U.S. is NOT locked down except for some cities right now 3-19-2020)

Narrator suggests you MULTIPLY by at least 10Xs the number stats that are being
announced for the U.S. on the news. (Watch that Wuhan China explanation at the 24:50 min
mark to understand why they believe this based on China--they thought there were only
350 cases when there were actually cases in the 1,000s.)
CHART AT 26 MINUTES (talks about multiplying the numbers)

IMPORTANCE TO "SUPPRESS" THE CURVE? diagram at the 27 minute mark
...what would the
curve look like without a lock down versus trying to get people to stay home.
(Dotted line in this graphic represents "how many the hospitals will be able to
handle and at what point is the health-care system OVERWHELMED?"

31 Minute mark--graphic shows % of mild versus critical symptoms from COVD-19.

THIS discussion I found most concerning as he has put together various scenarios
where 10%...20%...25%--with the actual models showing 50% catchy-rate actually get
the virus in JUST ONE COUNTY (his county)...
it shows how many would need critical ICU intervention to save their lives...
can the few hospitals (we have 3 hospitals in our immediate county with only about
20 ICU beds) actually handle 1,000 critical care patients? Um...no. Graph at 32 min. mark.

12 days is average hospital stay required to take a critical care person to
level where he/she doesn't need ICU care. Narrator's county has 10 beds..with the
modeled infection rate at 50% with 2800 cases will need it! Woah.

The majority watching the video will ONLY HAVE MILD SYMPTOMS and no hospitalization...
the problem lies with the SERIOUS CASES due to our hospitals NOT having the "carrying
capacity" to meet the demand for ICU critical care.

(35 Minute mark) Narrator says: "THIS is why we need to take the lock-downs and
self-isolation measures SERIOUSLY." He goes on to report about people in NY thinking
they can go to Saracuse hospitals rather than the small town hospitals?...He says that
will NOT work.

Narrator asks:

HOW MUCH ARE WE WILLING TO DO TO PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS UNDER THESE NUMBERS.
WE MUST "FLATTEN THIS CURVE"...ONLY EXTREME MEASURES WILL HELP US SO PLEASE HONOR
THE DIRECTIVE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITIES!

END OUTLINE

I thought I pretty much had a good handle on the COVD-19
information before watching this video...I didn't...and
I'm really appreciating your posting this. It tells the
very LATEST with studies on the example from China and
what can be expected here. Seriously important video.

cheers
S.S.PUG
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Thank you for the CLIFF notes.
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bottom bottom line:

50% of ICU cases die.

we are told that the entire basis of the crisis is containment of the spread rate so that hospitals and more specifically ICU units are not overwhelmed.

But half of them die anyway.

WE ALL ROLL THE DICE!
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This guy breaks it all down and explains why such drastic measures are being taken regarding SARS-CoV-2 aka COVID-19.

39 minute video

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

 Quoting: TheGasMan II


If people stop panicking you medicqm system will cope just fine. Only the imd and the weak are a concern. Wake the fuck up people you are amm a ting like soft cocks. How hje fuck is anyone going to develop immunity to this virus unless they get infe ted with it? Vaccines???
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That was good. Thanks. The little sniff at the end was prophetic.
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Thanks Gasman...

This video really helped me to wrap my mind around all of
this COVD-19 material that has flooded the Forum and the
media thus far. I think it is well worth the 39 minutes and
if you only wish to check certain topics in the outline
below I have provided the "minute marks" you can find them
at.

Hope this helps:


Points of interest (pretty basic stuff):

Humans carry on average about 5 different viral infections at any given time.
(Your immune system fights them off but they're just hanging in there.)

SARS-2 COVID-19 is the name of the VIRUS, while COVID-19 indicates the
actual disease (much like HIV is the virus and AIDS is the disease--differnet
designations.)

He explains the virus dynamics (you need to watch this part--talks about how
it enters the cell, uses it as a host and replicates, etc.) Because the COVD-19
is an "envelope virus" (it puts on the membrane of YOUR own cell like a winter coat)
--which is good because this can be destroyed by most detergents/soaps.

Proteins on the surface of the virus look like a "crown" which is why the
name "corona" is used for the name. When you hear "novel" in front of the virus
name it means the PROTEINS of the virus are BRAND NEW and no one has an immunity
already in place against them. "Novel" means NEW.

This is 5 minutes into the 40 minute presentation.

Question: Why is the "novel virus" so dangerous? (Lessons learned from normal flu.)

1. The world has never seen this virus before. (IMHO this should explain to people
who want an "instant cure" for this illness WHY IT WILL TAKE TIME to get a handle
on a cure. Scientists haven't seen it before, so there is ZERO RESEARCH to be
able to just run and make a vaccine for it...but it is coming.) THERE IS NO
IMMUNITY...NOT A SINGLE PERSON...PERIOD.

2. "Seasonal flu" is the circulation of viruses that the human population's immune
systems ALREADY RECOGNIZE.

3. When a "novel flu" appears...it travels very fast and is very contageous...this
is when they label the "novel virus" a PANDEMIC FLU.

4. "Seasonal flu" is NOT novel. The flu season is just a slight change in already
circulating flu viruses. The NOVEL virus spreads extremely fast. Pandemic flu
is...NASTY STUFF.

5. 1918 Spanish Flu is the Grand daddy of flu pandemics. It killed 50,000,000 people
world-wide with 676,000 people in the U.S.A. mortality rate was 2%. Swine flu was
only .05%. Seasonal flu this year has killed 18,000--explains it on the chart .06%
mortality rate.

6. 81% cases get mild "cold-like" symptoms (the good news) but the bad symptoms
14% pneumonia then 5% of those infected = critical sepsis and respiratory failure.
50% death rate of those 5% will pass.

7. At the 26 min mark narrator explains the concern is to keep the CURVE FLATTENED
so our health care is NOT overwhelmed. (Graph at 29 minute mark shows "what doing
nothing--no lock-downs--would mean...versus..."doing something.") Graphic, by the
way, puts the hypothetical out between April thru June 2020.

CHART ABOUT SPANISH FLU AND OTHERS IS AT 7:00 MIN MARK.


Goes on to explain SARS and MERS--fewer than 1,000 deaths world wide 10 min. mark.
SARS mortality was 9%--while MERS was 35% but they got a handle on it with drugs.
COVD-19 mortality percentage is 3% (10 min mark.) SARS (Sudden Acute Respitory Syndrome)
was very sudden and was successfully contained. SARS did NOT have this strange "contagion
even if NOT symptomatic" so it was easier to contain early on.

UP TO 2 WEEKS TO SHOW SYMPTOMS in the COVD-19 virus--victims MOST contagious by day
5 of getting the virus. If your symptoms don't even show up for over 1 week you can
be shedding the VIRUS AT DAY 5 WITHOUT SYMPTOMS with maximum contagion. This makes it
very difficult to contain. 14 min mark in presentation shows charts of contagion, etc.

ALSO: Without the ability to TEST ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE...it spreads rapidly without
our ability to contain it. Next--dropplet contagion is most dangerous...airborne means
the "droplets" are so tiny they aerosolize into the air. VIRUS LIVES ON SURFACES
--ESPECIALLY THE HANDS. Avoid touching your face, nose, eyes, mouth. Indirect contact
where virus falls onto a doornob STAY ALIVE FOR AT LEAST SEVERAL HOURS TO SEVERAL DAYS
ON METAL/PLASTIC. "Your hands are NOT YOUR FRIENDS right now...keep your hands clean
and don't touch stuff!" (Disinfect your living areas/working areas.)
18 minute mark in presentation. CHART ON TRANSMISSION HERE.

Can COVD-19 be contained? China's Wuhan province a good example they were able
to contain it--but MAJOR LOCK DOWN. Depends on whether or not U.S. can get the
same level of LOCK DOWN as China was able to do. SELF-QUARANTINE IF YOU ARE ILL.
(...WHICH is obvious, but if there are no symptoms many will go to work and carry
on as if they are fine.)

24 Minute mark (with a really awful chart for "world-wide spread" at 24:30 min mark):


HOW BAD IS IT? THE R-NOT RATE NOW IS 2.5...for every infection the person passes it
on to 2 1/2 people...number of cases DOUBLES every week at this rate.
24 minute mark shows THE CURVE FOR EXPONENTIAL RATES FOR VARIOUS COUNTRIES.

Question: How many are infected in the U.S.A. right now?

We have no idea. (24:54 min mark.)


But very interesting comment about the "rate curve" verses the LOCK DOWN POINT
FOR WUHAN and what that means for the curve. (Pretty scary when you consider that
the U.S. is NOT locked down except for some cities right now 3-19-2020)

Narrator suggests you MULTIPLY by at least 10Xs the number stats that are being
announced for the U.S. on the news. (Watch that Wuhan China explanation at the 24:50 min
mark to understand why they believe this based on China--they thought there were only
350 cases when there were actually cases in the 1,000s.)
CHART AT 26 MINUTES (talks about multiplying the numbers)

IMPORTANCE TO "SUPPRESS" THE CURVE? diagram at the 27 minute mark
...what would the
curve look like without a lock down versus trying to get people to stay home.
(Dotted line in this graphic represents "how many the hospitals will be able to
handle and at what point is the health-care system OVERWHELMED?"

31 Minute mark--graphic shows % of mild versus critical symptoms from COVD-19.

THIS discussion I found most concerning as he has put together various scenarios
where 10%...20%...25%--with the actual models showing 50% catchy-rate actually get
the virus in JUST ONE COUNTY (his county)...
it shows how many would need critical ICU intervention to save their lives...
can the few hospitals (we have 3 hospitals in our immediate county with only about
20 ICU beds) actually handle 1,000 critical care patients? Um...no. Graph at 32 min. mark.

12 days is average hospital stay required to take a critical care person to
level where he/she doesn't need ICU care. Narrator's county has 10 beds..with the
modeled infection rate at 50% with 2800 cases will need it! Woah.

The majority watching the video will ONLY HAVE MILD SYMPTOMS and no hospitalization...
the problem lies with the SERIOUS CASES due to our hospitals NOT having the "carrying
capacity" to meet the demand for ICU critical care.

(35 Minute mark) Narrator says: "THIS is why we need to take the lock-downs and
self-isolation measures SERIOUSLY." He goes on to report about people in NY thinking
they can go to Saracuse hospitals rather than the small town hospitals?...He says that
will NOT work.

Narrator asks:

HOW MUCH ARE WE WILLING TO DO TO PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS UNDER THESE NUMBERS.
WE MUST "FLATTEN THIS CURVE"...ONLY EXTREME MEASURES WILL HELP US SO PLEASE HONOR
THE DIRECTIVE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITIES!

END OUTLINE

I thought I pretty much had a good handle on the COVD-19
information before watching this video...I didn't...and
I'm really appreciating your posting this. It tells the
very LATEST with studies on the example from China and
what can be expected here. Seriously important video.

cheers
S.S.PUG
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Thank you very much for explaining the contents of the video for those who can't watch right now. Very helpful we need to know these things. hf
Peepaws
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Damn man 39 minutes? Can you highlight what the main points of the video are a least?
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Easy. Even with extreme social distancing - we are fucked. At this point, the only different is how fucked we are.
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Maybe not.

As the Israeli Nobel prize winner (whose wife is an artist-entertainer, as are most women)....said...[see post above]....

....in a cruise ship with very close quarters confinement for weeks......

only 20% were infected....

hence a lot of people could have natural immunity to the virus, through as yet unknown mechanisms....

.
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I was thinking about that myself
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This guy breaks it all down and explains why such drastic measures are being taken regarding SARS-CoV-2 aka COVID-19.

39 minute video

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Jeez. He said for every positive case, times it by 10 and that’s likely how many cases there are.
Hold on to your undies, it's gonna be a hell of a ride
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It will wash away by April
It’s just the flu
The economy will pop back with a boom
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