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Al a hoax. Its 5g testing in these places that cause these symptoms.its a weapon
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You see how you are outnumbered by the fear mongering shill campaign of Satan?

Of-course it's EM.
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This explains why the nothingtards are such idiots ... and Trump was one of them.

Yes, 81% of the infected get mild symptoms, basically a flu.

But the issues is how highly contagious the damn thing is combined with the fact that at least 5% of those who get it end up in intensive care, and that the medical system cannot possibly keep up with that if the spread is not curbed by various containment measures.
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Damn man 39 minutes? Can you highlight what the main points of the video are a least?
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Easy. Even with extreme social distancing - we are fucked. At this point, the only different is how fucked we are.
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Maybe not.

As the Israeli Nobel prize winner (whose wife is an artist-entertainer, as are most women)....said...[see post above]....

....in a cruise ship with very close quarters confinement for weeks......

only 20% were infected....

hence a lot of people could have natural immunity to the virus, through as yet unknown mechanisms....

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I was thinking about that myself
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Likely, the Israeli Nobel prize winning scientist, (whose wife is an artist-entertainer) is right.....

While this is a novel virus, its still belongs to the Coronavirus family, hence they share many components. And thus, a lot of people will already have varying degrees of immunity to it.

Else, you would have seen an infection rate approaching > 95%, which is not the case.

Anyway, its still a strong lesson to humans to avoid breeding, consuming and experimenting on animals.

And also to avoid excessive trade, travel and globalization.

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This guy breaks it all down and explains why such drastic measures are being taken regarding SARS-CoV-2 aka COVID-19.

39 minute video

[link to youtu.be (secure)]

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But, but, but, Trump sad the virus is a nothing burger.
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Easy. Even with extreme social distancing - we are fucked. At this point, the only different is how fucked we are.
 Quoting: Cap’n Obvious


Maybe not.

As the Israeli Nobel prize winner (whose wife is an artist-entertainer, as are most women)....said...[see post above]....

....in a cruise ship with very close quarters confinement for weeks......

only 20% were infected....

hence a lot of people could have natural immunity to the virus, through as yet unknown mechanisms....

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77295772


I was thinking about that myself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77742648


Likely, the Israeli Nobel prize winning scientist, (whose wife is an artist-entertainer) is right.....

While this is a novel virus, its still belongs to the Coronavirus family, hence they share many components. And thus, a lot of people will already have varying degrees of immunity to it.

Else, you would have seen an infection rate approaching > 95%, which is not the case.

Anyway, its still a strong lesson to humans to avoid breeding, consuming and experimenting on animals.

And also to avoid excessive trade, travel and globalization.

.
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Um...if you watch the video the OP provides, you will
hear the narrator explain that when they attach "NOVEL"
to the name of the virus...that means it is brand new.
(Of course, they don't ADD that it is a manufactured
bioweapon, so as a WEAPON nobody has ever seen it before
and the reason it is so dangerous is the fact nobody
has an immunity to it. Naming it "Corona virus" was a
huge mistake IMHO because it makes it sound like a variation
of a virus that is, in fact, already known. IT is NOT known
and there is no immunity. Studies done in India suggest
the virus was "spliced" with part of the HIV virus...I mean
do you think there is an immunity to HIV?

Just sayin!

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People saying that there is any kind of immunity couldn't be more wrong. This was an ANIMAL ONLY virus that made the leap to people, and then further mutated to ONLY INFECT PEOPLE; hence it is formed of completely foreign proteins and RNA that our immune systems have no existing tools to combat. This hasn't really happened before..
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Damn man 39 minutes? Can you highlight what the main points of the video are a least?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78654785


He basically breaks down what the virus is, how it spreads and how even the best case scenarios will overwhelm the medical system.

I found it very informative and very concerning.
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We who have been monitoring this on GLP knew this back in January. Nobody else wanted to believe it was a problem back then.
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Trump has taken critical healthcare away from 30 million US citizens !!

And given it to 30 million illegals in the USA.

Remember Trump's campaign promise to deport all illegals in the USA ? Well Trump lied, he never deported them, restricted ICE to only deport serious criminal illegals.

All those 30 million illegals Trump lied about deporting will now will take beds, doctors care, medicine, etc away from 30 million desperate US citizens.

Many US citizens will die now because Trump lied.
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Oh fuck off commie shill

go back to China and eat a bag of dicks
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Outstanding video - thanks to OP for posting this.
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Thanks Gasman...

This video really helped me to wrap my mind around all of
this COVD-19 material that has flooded the Forum and the
media thus far. I think it is well worth the 39 minutes and
if you only wish to check certain topics in the outline
below I have provided the "minute marks" you can find them
at.

Hope this helps:


Points of interest (pretty basic stuff):

Humans carry on average about 5 different viral infections at any given time.
(Your immune system fights them off but they're just hanging in there.)

SARS-2 COVID-19 is the name of the VIRUS, while COVID-19 indicates the
actual disease (much like HIV is the virus and AIDS is the disease--differnet
designations.)

He explains the virus dynamics (you need to watch this part--talks about how
it enters the cell, uses it as a host and replicates, etc.) Because the COVD-19
is an "envelope virus" (it puts on the membrane of YOUR own cell like a winter coat)
--which is good because this can be destroyed by most detergents/soaps.

Proteins on the surface of the virus look like a "crown" which is why the
name "corona" is used for the name. When you hear "novel" in front of the virus
name it means the PROTEINS of the virus are BRAND NEW and no one has an immunity
already in place against them. "Novel" means NEW.

This is 5 minutes into the 40 minute presentation.

Question: Why is the "novel virus" so dangerous? (Lessons learned from normal flu.)

1. The world has never seen this virus before. (IMHO this should explain to people
who want an "instant cure" for this illness WHY IT WILL TAKE TIME to get a handle
on a cure. Scientists haven't seen it before, so there is ZERO RESEARCH to be
able to just run and make a vaccine for it...but it is coming.) THERE IS NO
IMMUNITY...NOT A SINGLE PERSON...PERIOD.

2. "Seasonal flu" is the circulation of viruses that the human population's immune
systems ALREADY RECOGNIZE.

3. When a "novel flu" appears...it travels very fast and is very contageous...this
is when they label the "novel virus" a PANDEMIC FLU.

4. "Seasonal flu" is NOT novel. The flu season is just a slight change in already
circulating flu viruses. The NOVEL virus spreads extremely fast. Pandemic flu
is...NASTY STUFF.

5. 1918 Spanish Flu is the Grand daddy of flu pandemics. It killed 50,000,000 people
world-wide with 676,000 people in the U.S.A. mortality rate was 2%. Swine flu was
only .05%. Seasonal flu this year has killed 18,000--explains it on the chart .06%
mortality rate.

6. 81% cases get mild "cold-like" symptoms (the good news) but the bad symptoms
14% pneumonia then 5% of those infected = critical sepsis and respiratory failure.
50% death rate of those 5% will pass.

7. At the 26 min mark narrator explains the concern is to keep the CURVE FLATTENED
so our health care is NOT overwhelmed. (Graph at 29 minute mark shows "what doing
nothing--no lock-downs--would mean...versus..."doing something.") Graphic, by the
way, puts the hypothetical out between April thru June 2020.

CHART ABOUT SPANISH FLU AND OTHERS IS AT 7:00 MIN MARK.


Goes on to explain SARS and MERS--fewer than 1,000 deaths world wide 10 min. mark.
SARS mortality was 9%--while MERS was 35% but they got a handle on it with drugs.
COVD-19 mortality percentage is 3% (10 min mark.) SARS (Sudden Acute Respitory Syndrome)
was very sudden and was successfully contained. SARS did NOT have this strange "contagion
even if NOT symptomatic" so it was easier to contain early on.

UP TO 2 WEEKS TO SHOW SYMPTOMS in the COVD-19 virus--victims MOST contagious by day
5 of getting the virus. If your symptoms don't even show up for over 1 week you can
be shedding the VIRUS AT DAY 5 WITHOUT SYMPTOMS with maximum contagion. This makes it
very difficult to contain. 14 min mark in presentation shows charts of contagion, etc.

ALSO: Without the ability to TEST ASYMPTOMATIC PEOPLE...it spreads rapidly without
our ability to contain it. Next--dropplet contagion is most dangerous...airborne means
the "droplets" are so tiny they aerosolize into the air. VIRUS LIVES ON SURFACES
--ESPECIALLY THE HANDS. Avoid touching your face, nose, eyes, mouth. Indirect contact
where virus falls onto a doornob STAY ALIVE FOR AT LEAST SEVERAL HOURS TO SEVERAL DAYS
ON METAL/PLASTIC. "Your hands are NOT YOUR FRIENDS right now...keep your hands clean
and don't touch stuff!" (Disinfect your living areas/working areas.)
18 minute mark in presentation. CHART ON TRANSMISSION HERE.

Can COVD-19 be contained? China's Wuhan province a good example they were able
to contain it--but MAJOR LOCK DOWN. Depends on whether or not U.S. can get the
same level of LOCK DOWN as China was able to do. SELF-QUARANTINE IF YOU ARE ILL.
(...WHICH is obvious, but if there are no symptoms many will go to work and carry
on as if they are fine.)

24 Minute mark (with a really awful chart for "world-wide spread" at 24:30 min mark):


HOW BAD IS IT? THE R-NOT RATE NOW IS 2.5...for every infection the person passes it
on to 2 1/2 people...number of cases DOUBLES every week at this rate.
24 minute mark shows THE CURVE FOR EXPONENTIAL RATES FOR VARIOUS COUNTRIES.

Question: How many are infected in the U.S.A. right now?

We have no idea. (24:54 min mark.)


But very interesting comment about the "rate curve" verses the LOCK DOWN POINT
FOR WUHAN and what that means for the curve. (Pretty scary when you consider that
the U.S. is NOT locked down except for some cities right now 3-19-2020)

Narrator suggests you MULTIPLY by at least 10Xs the number stats that are being
announced for the U.S. on the news. (Watch that Wuhan China explanation at the 24:50 min
mark to understand why they believe this based on China--they thought there were only
350 cases when there were actually cases in the 1,000s.)
CHART AT 26 MINUTES (talks about multiplying the numbers)

IMPORTANCE TO "SUPPRESS" THE CURVE? diagram at the 27 minute mark
...what would the
curve look like without a lock down versus trying to get people to stay home.
(Dotted line in this graphic represents "how many the hospitals will be able to
handle and at what point is the health-care system OVERWHELMED?"

31 Minute mark--graphic shows % of mild versus critical symptoms from COVD-19.

THIS discussion I found most concerning as he has put together various scenarios
where 10%...20%...25%--with the actual models showing 50% catchy-rate actually get
the virus in JUST ONE COUNTY (his county)...
it shows how many would need critical ICU intervention to save their lives...
can the few hospitals (we have 3 hospitals in our immediate county with only about
20 ICU beds) actually handle 1,000 critical care patients? Um...no. Graph at 32 min. mark.

12 days is average hospital stay required to take a critical care person to
level where he/she doesn't need ICU care. Narrator's county has 10 beds..with the
modeled infection rate at 50% with 2800 cases will need it! Woah.

The majority watching the video will ONLY HAVE MILD SYMPTOMS and no hospitalization...
the problem lies with the SERIOUS CASES due to our hospitals NOT having the "carrying
capacity" to meet the demand for ICU critical care.

(35 Minute mark) Narrator says: "THIS is why we need to take the lock-downs and
self-isolation measures SERIOUSLY." He goes on to report about people in NY thinking
they can go to Saracuse hospitals rather than the small town hospitals?...He says that
will NOT work.

Narrator asks:

HOW MUCH ARE WE WILLING TO DO TO PROTECT OUR MOST VULNERABLE FOLKS UNDER THESE NUMBERS.
WE MUST "FLATTEN THIS CURVE"...ONLY EXTREME MEASURES WILL HELP US SO PLEASE HONOR
THE DIRECTIVE IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITIES!

END OUTLINE

I thought I pretty much had a good handle on the COVD-19
information before watching this video...I didn't...and
I'm really appreciating your posting this. It tells the
very LATEST with studies on the example from China and
what can be expected here. Seriously important video.

cheers
S.S.PUG
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Thanks for that summary and taking your time. It's all true and a reason to respect this is made clear in all of that if people still aren't.
 Quoting: Brian Moran


My pleasure, Brian. Used to be the recording secretary
for my university's computer club...lots of outlines for
those guys!

cheers
S.S.PUG
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People saying that there is any kind of immunity couldn't be more wrong. This was an ANIMAL ONLY virus that made the leap to people, and then further mutated to ONLY INFECT PEOPLE; hence it is formed of completely foreign proteins and RNA that our immune systems have no existing tools to combat. This hasn't really happened before..
 Quoting: AkashicRecord®


So...you haven't been "clued-in" that even President Trump
believes this "China virus" was LAB CREATED (not a natural
mutation of an existing animal/human virus!) This is why
he is changing the label from COVD-19 to China virus...he
wants people to realize this was a bio-weapons release.

Just sayin!

cheers
S.S.PUG
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Maybe not.

As the Israeli Nobel prize winner (whose wife is an artist-entertainer, as are most women)....said...[see post above]....

....in a cruise ship with very close quarters confinement for weeks......

only 20% were infected....

hence a lot of people could have natural immunity to the virus, through as yet unknown mechanisms....

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77295772


I was thinking about that myself
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77742648


Likely, the Israeli Nobel prize winning scientist, (whose wife is an artist-entertainer) is right.....

While this is a novel virus, its still belongs to the Coronavirus family, hence they share many components. And thus, a lot of people will already have varying degrees of immunity to it.

Else, you would have seen an infection rate approaching > 95%, which is not the case.

Anyway, its still a strong lesson to humans to avoid breeding, consuming and experimenting on animals.

And also to avoid excessive trade, travel and globalization.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74739407


Um...if you watch the video the OP provides, you will
hear the narrator explain that when they attach "NOVEL"
to the name of the virus...that means it is brand new.
(Of course, they don't ADD that it is a manufactured
bioweapon, so as a WEAPON nobody has ever seen it before
and the reason it is so dangerous is the fact nobody
has an immunity to it. Naming it "Corona virus" was a
huge mistake IMHO because it makes it sound like a variation
of a virus that is, in fact, already known. IT is NOT known
and there is no immunity. Studies done in India suggest
the virus was "spliced" with part of the HIV virus...I mean
do you think there is an immunity to HIV?

Just sayin!

S.S.PUG
 Quoting: SaintPattysPug


As I mentioned, since it belongs to the coronavirus family, it still shares many common components with other coronaviruses, even if it is "novel"

And its not a bioweapon, it originated from bats or pangolins, due to breeding and consuming a huge variety of animals in China.


And you believe "research" from India, where they are over 20 fake universities?

India Has Over 20 Fake Universities
[link to www.vice.com (secure)]


lol......

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This explains why the nothingtards are such idiots ... and Trump was one of them.

Yes, 81% of the infected get mild symptoms, basically a flu.

But the issues is how highly contagious the damn thing is combined with the fact that at least 5% of those who get it end up in intensive care, and that the medical system cannot possibly keep up with that if the spread is not curbed by various containment measures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78144644


Why are we suddenly so concerned with the medical establishments ability to keep up. ICUs fill up all the time and sometimes people die when they cannot get care. It's a fact of life.

So, we can let it take it's course, overflow the ICU and take a minor blow to the economy.

Or, we can shut everything down, overflow the ICU anyways, and completely stall the economy, and probably destroy the livelihoods of millions.

I fail to see the advantage of the second scenario. The same number of people are likely to die, just spread over a different timeframe.





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