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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74962726 United States 03/22/2020 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scenario - it is four weeks into the future. Hospitals are full of severe case ARDS Chinese Virus patients. You, being prepared had food for several weeks but unfortunately your neighbor didn’t and when they came up to ask for sugar contaminated your doorhandle or something. You aren’t sure. All you know is you are presenting now well documented Symptoms and are progressing to the pneumonia stage. Past this is ARDS. Reluctantly you find yourself at the hospital but are turned away. Quoting: HolyBeast 78344608 What can you do? When a sailor drowned, for hundreds of years they used a method of rolling them face down over a barrel to expel the water. A more modern method is something called “Postural drainage.” You can do this on yourself, others, babies, adults and the like. It can be done for 20 to 40 mins a day to help expel fluid and detritus from the lungs. It can be done early phase to help prevent it from progressing further by reducing inflammation. Print this out and maybe save a life. [link to www.cff.org (secure)] who woulda thought thanks Einstein. Cardio does this too. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66594553 United States 03/22/2020 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you get ARDS and aren't in the hospital (typically ICU) getting oxygen, you're going to die. You have about a 40% of dying even in an ICU with ventilator support. Quoting: EVronsky The fluid is in the interstitial spaces not the airways as in a drowning. Airways can remain wide open but no gas exchange takes place. This is totally contrary to what everyone states, from health providers on the take, to legit doctors invested in healing. Not saying that there isn't fluid in interstitial spaces, but there is unquestionably volumes of mucous within the airways, at all scales of the fractal branching. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74172411 United States 03/22/2020 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you get ARDS and aren't in the hospital (typically ICU) getting oxygen, you're going to die. You have about a 40% of dying even in an ICU with ventilator support. Quoting: EVronsky The fluid is in the interstitial spaces not the airways as in a drowning. Airways can remain wide open but no gas exchange takes place. This is totally contrary to what everyone states, from health providers on the take, to legit doctors invested in healing. Not saying that there isn't fluid in interstitial spaces, but there is unquestionably volumes of mucous within the airways, at all scales of the fractal branching. Y'all gonna make me google gas exchange. So we have Mucus which is preventing air from reaching the alveoli Fluid in the interstitial spaces somehow inhibiting gas exchange And fluid in the thoracic cavity compressing the lung. What are we dealing with because each of these require a different approach. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74172411 United States 03/22/2020 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you get ARDS and aren't in the hospital (typically ICU) getting oxygen, you're going to die. You have about a 40% of dying even in an ICU with ventilator support. Quoting: EVronsky The fluid is in the interstitial spaces not the airways as in a drowning. Airways can remain wide open but no gas exchange takes place. This is totally contrary to what everyone states, from health providers on the take, to legit doctors invested in healing. Not saying that there isn't fluid in interstitial spaces, but there is unquestionably volumes of mucous within the airways, at all scales of the fractal branching. Y'all gonna make me google gas exchange. So we have Mucus which is preventing air from reaching the alveoli Fluid in the interstitial spaces somehow inhibiting gas exchange And fluid in the thoracic cavity compressing the lung. What are we dealing with because each of these require a different approach. And also sepsis by secondary infection due to over expression of immune cells flooding and damaging the lung cells themselves. |
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User ID: 76672443 United States 03/22/2020 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the info. Covid Jab Experiment - I'm in the control group. The reason the left wants you disarmed is because they plan to do things to you that you would shoot them for. To a cat, "No" just means to try again later. Silver kills disease organisms and also cures banksteritis. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78611788 United States 03/22/2020 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you get ARDS and aren't in the hospital (typically ICU) getting oxygen, you're going to die. You have about a 40% of dying even in an ICU with ventilator support. Quoting: EVronsky The fluid is in the interstitial spaces not the airways as in a drowning. Airways can remain wide open but no gas exchange takes place. And it drains from there into the breathing tubes...until such a time of upcoming death...and it still moves there.. but the aveoli become clogged near the time of death.. and don't remove it. |
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User ID: 78068491 United States 03/22/2020 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just take Mucinex. The more I know, the crazier I appear to be. "THE ONLY WAY TO DEAL WITH AN UNFREE WORLD IS TO BECOME SO ABSOLUTELY FREE THAT YOUR VERY EXISTENCE IS AN ACT OF REBELLION" -ALBERT CAMUS No brains, no pain. The Difference Between Stupidity and Genius Is That Genius Has Its Limits |
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You ain't seen nothing yet! User ID: 78599584 United States 03/22/2020 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scenario - it is four weeks into the future. Hospitals are full of severe case ARDS Chinese Virus patients. You, being prepared had food for several weeks but unfortunately your neighbor didn’t and when they came up to ask for sugar contaminated your doorhandle or something. You aren’t sure. All you know is you are presenting now well documented Symptoms and are progressing to the pneumonia stage. Past this is ARDS. Reluctantly you find yourself at the hospital but are turned away. Quoting: HolyBeast 78344608 What can you do? When a sailor drowned, for hundreds of years they used a method of rolling them face down over a barrel to expel the water. A more modern method is something called “Postural drainage.” You can do this on yourself, others, babies, adults and the like. It can be done for 20 to 40 mins a day to help expel fluid and detritus from the lungs. It can be done early phase to help prevent it from progressing further by reducing inflammation. Print this out and maybe save a life. [link to www.cff.org (secure)] I'm going to need a Supermodel to help me with that. Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running. Used by the Founders... Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives” reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day... America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments... 1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year. 2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges. 3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set. 4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit. Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates. Democrats are a WMD, literally. Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74172411 United States 03/22/2020 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope, this virus virus fills your lungs with a tar like mucus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78670490 If you get it real bad? you're done period. So we can modulate the viscosity of mucal secretions by virtue of expectorants. Which thin the mucus. Where possible the patient must be able to expectorate..thus clearing fluid from the lungs. An immobile patient given expectorants will be unable to clear their lungs resulting in drowning. I haven't read anything that addresses any of this. Cause of death Viral pneumonia...really? |
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User ID: 29184782 United States 03/22/2020 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have allergies which induce asthma. Sleeping on my stomach or side helps, but I usually am very congested upon waking up often with shortness of breath. I beat on my upper back and chest, then lean forward with my head below my chest, then cough. After a few times doing that, congestion gone and breathing normally restored. It works. Moonstar |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74172411 United States 03/22/2020 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope, this virus virus fills your lungs with a tar like mucus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78670490 If you get it real bad? you're done period. So we can modulate the viscosity of mucal secretions by virtue of expectorants. Which thin the mucus. Where possible the patient must be able to expectorate..thus clearing fluid from the lungs. An immobile patient given expectorants will be unable to clear their lungs resulting in drowning. I haven't read anything that addresses any of this. Cause of death Viral pneumonia...really? I cannot find any links to pleneural fluid in this . What's the difference between fluid from a cytokine storm and mucus? Mucus occurs naturally to keep impurities and irritants out of the lungs..cytokine storm is an overactive immune response resulting in a flood of immune cells that destroy the integrity of the cell wall membrane flooding the lungs. |
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User ID: 78492184 Canada 03/22/2020 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JUST my understanding of this whole mess. SEPSIS / CYTOKINE STORM is a fluid build-up OUTSIDE the aveoli. The body floods the area with white cells to fight off a perceived infection it has not identified yet. No gas exchange can occur as the white cells deny red cells access to the aveoli walls. This is what killed many during the Spanish flu 100+ years ago. The other "KILLER" was giving victims ASPIRIN which knocked the fevere down ... the ONLY thing the body has to slow viral replication until it IDs and then starts producing antigen specific antibodies for the new virus. Cystic Fibrosis produces a gummy mucus buildup IN the lungs, the aveoli, the broncs etc and blocks air passages. I've had several friends whose kids had CF. Twice a day, sometimes thrice, after their meds they would lie on either an inversion table, their bed or the armrest of a couch - knees and chest on the couch and the rest draped over the arm-rest with their heads near the floor. On top of the position all the ones I knew had a THUMPER® type massager and they'd get their backs and sides thumped to hell and all that GUCK would make its way via gravity, helped by the thumping, out of their noses / mouths. Grumpier mentioned using speakers tuned to low freq. sound cycles so I'm sure that works too. That technique and their meds let many CF patients live almost normal lives. As the CoVid produces large quantities of gunk IN the lungs also I would recommend this for anybody who can't get in to a hospital for a ventilator. One other thing I've read is taking a few deep breaths of vaporized HYDROGEN PEROXIDE from a nebulizer or humidifyer. Not sure how effective this is but I have watched micrographs of various viruses being exposed to hydrogen peroxide and it doesn't go well for the bug!! My 2¢ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76872853 United States 03/22/2020 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have allergies which induce asthma. Sleeping on my stomach or side helps, but I usually am very congested upon waking up often with shortness of breath. I beat on my upper back and chest, then lean forward with my head below my chest, then cough. After a few times doing that, congestion gone and breathing normally restored. Quoting: Moon&Stars It works. Wow... I always thought sleeping on your back was best. To allow for best breathing.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74172411 United States 03/22/2020 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JUST my understanding of this whole mess. Quoting: MR.GGG SEPSIS / CYTOKINE STORM is a fluid build-up OUTSIDE the aveoli. The body floods the area with white cells to fight off a perceived infection it has not identified yet. No gas exchange can occur as the white cells deny red cells access to the aveoli walls. This is what killed many during the Spanish flu 100+ years ago. The other "KILLER" was giving victims ASPIRIN which knocked the fevere down ... the ONLY thing the body has to slow viral replication until it IDs and then starts producing antigen specific antibodies for the new virus. Cystic Fibrosis produces a gummy mucus buildup IN the lungs, the aveoli, the broncs etc and blocks air passages. I've had several friends whose kids had CF. Twice a day, sometimes thrice, after their meds they would lie on either an inversion table, their bed or the armrest of a couch - knees and chest on the couch and the rest draped over the arm-rest with their heads near the floor. On top of the position all the ones I knew had a THUMPER® type massager and they'd get their backs and sides thumped to hell and all that GUCK would make its way via gravity, helped by the thumping, out of their noses / mouths. Grumpier mentioned using speakers tuned to low freq. sound cycles so I'm sure that works too. That technique and their meds let many CF patients live almost normal lives. As the CoVid produces large quantities of gunk IN the lungs also I would recommend this for anybody who can't get in to a hospital for a ventilator. One other thing I've read is taking a few deep breaths of vaporized HYDROGEN PEROXIDE from a nebulizer or humidifyer. Not sure how effective this is but I have watched micrographs of various viruses being exposed to hydrogen peroxide and it doesn't go well for the bug!! My 2¢ Sounds good.. In a humidifier water is turned into a vapor by boiling (warm mist) Salt is left and H2O evaporates as in the ocean and desalination resulting in fresh water by separating the NaCl and the H2O. Cool mist is by ultrasonic vibration ..sounds better and better. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74172411 United States 03/22/2020 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JUST my understanding of this whole mess. Quoting: MR.GGG SEPSIS / CYTOKINE STORM is a fluid build-up OUTSIDE the aveoli. The body floods the area with white cells to fight off a perceived infection it has not identified yet. No gas exchange can occur as the white cells deny red cells access to the aveoli walls. This is what killed many during the Spanish flu 100+ years ago. The other "KILLER" was giving victims ASPIRIN which knocked the fevere down ... the ONLY thing the body has to slow viral replication until it IDs and then starts producing antigen specific antibodies for the new virus. Cystic Fibrosis produces a gummy mucus buildup IN the lungs, the aveoli, the broncs etc and blocks air passages. I've had several friends whose kids had CF. Twice a day, sometimes thrice, after their meds they would lie on either an inversion table, their bed or the armrest of a couch - knees and chest on the couch and the rest draped over the arm-rest with their heads near the floor. On top of the position all the ones I knew had a THUMPER® type massager and they'd get their backs and sides thumped to hell and all that GUCK would make its way via gravity, helped by the thumping, out of their noses / mouths. Grumpier mentioned using speakers tuned to low freq. sound cycles so I'm sure that works too. That technique and their meds let many CF patients live almost normal lives. As the CoVid produces large quantities of gunk IN the lungs also I would recommend this for anybody who can't get in to a hospital for a ventilator. One other thing I've read is taking a few deep breaths of vaporized HYDROGEN PEROXIDE from a nebulizer or humidifyer. Not sure how effective this is but I have watched micrographs of various viruses being exposed to hydrogen peroxide and it doesn't go well for the bug!! My 2¢ Sounds good.. In a humidifier water is turned into a vapor by boiling (warm mist) Salt is left and H2O evaporates as in the ocean and desalination resulting in fresh water by separating the NaCl and the H2O. Cool mist is by ultrasonic vibration ..sounds better and better. Sounds effective before its progressed into a systemic infection. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75450553 United States 03/22/2020 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is good to know, thank you! I want to add that we have a nebulizer at our home and my husband was able to stop the flu in a day by putting colloidal silver in it. I had H1N1 and he started hacking the same as I had been but he was only sick for one day. We think it would work the same with any respiratory virus. |
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