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Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43885299 Finland 03/23/2020 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Results of docking compounds to the proteins of Sars-CoV-2. The greater the negative Gibbs free energy, the merrier binding and efficacy.
PDBid: 6LU7 (COVID-19 main protease):
Allicin: -3.4 kcal/mol Alliin: -4.3 kcal/mol Azhitromycin: -6.4 kcal/mol Chloroquine: -6.1 kcal/mol Curcumin: -6.8 kcal/mol (reason why not so much infections in india?) GS-441524: -6.5 kcal/mol Hydrogen peroxide: -2.9 kcal/mol (it could work, if it destroys the protein by oxidation!) Hydroxychloroquine: -5.8 kcal/mol Oseltamivir: -6.3 kcal/mol Ricinoleic_acid: -4.4 kcal/mol Scopolamine: -7.2 kcal/mol Sulforaphane: -3.7 kcal/mol Vitamin-C: -5.2 kcal/mol (if it works, it works by massive dosages generating hydrogen peroxide)
Azvudine: -7.0 kcal/mol Baloxavir_marboxil: -7.7 kcal/mol Baloxavir_acid: -8.1 kcal/mol Lopinavir: -6.3 kcal/mol Methylprednisolone: -6.7 kcal/mol Remdesivir: -8.2 kcal/mol Ritonavir: -6.5 kcal/mol Umifenovir: -6.6 kcal/mol Famciclovir: -6.2 kcal/mol Penciclovir: -5.4 kcal/mol Aciclovir: -5.3 kcal/mol
PDBid: 6VSB (2019-nCoV spike glycoprotein):
Allicin: -4.0 kcal/mol Alliin: -4.7 kcal/mol Azhitromycin: -7.7 kcal/mol Chloroquine: -6.1 kcal/mol Curcumin: -7.6 kcal/mol (reason why not so much infections in india?) GS-441524: -7.1 kcal/mol Hydrogen peroxide: -3.4 kcal/mol (it could work, if it destroys the protein by oxidation!) Hydroxychloroquine: -6.4 kcal/mol Oseltamivir: -6.5 kcal/mol Ricinoleic_acid: -5.6 kcal/mol Scopolamine: -7.3 kcal/mol Sulforaphane: -4.1 kcal/mol Vitamin-C: -5.6 kcal/mol (if it works, it works by massive dosages generating hydrogen peroxide) Azvudine: -7.7 kcal/mol Baloxavir_marboxil: -10.5 kcal/mol Baloxavir_acid: -10.1 kcal/mol Lopinavir: -9.1 kcal/mol Methylprednisolone: -9.2 kcal/mol Remdesivir: -7.9 kcal/mol Ritonavir: -9.2 kcal/mol Umifenovir: -7.5 kcal/mol Famciclovir: -7.3 kcal/mol Penciclovir: -7.0 kcal/mol Aciclovir: -6.3 kcal/mol |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43885299 Finland 03/23/2020 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? If you want me to dock other molecules to these proteins, just ask. The docking calculations are made with autodock vina. Proteins and ligands (the antivirals and such) are prepared according to standard. I can disclose the parameters if one wishes to verify these results.
If you are naturopath, 12g of curcumin per day + hefty amount of ground black pepper along does have good effect. Also hefty amount of vitamin C (10g plugged with another 10g 3h later) If you vouch for the drug treatment, I suggest to use Baloxavir. The (hydroxy)chloroquine and azhitromycin aren't nearly as effective.
Myself - I use home made colloidal silver. Cannot dock that one though.
Any questions? :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73921753 United States 03/23/2020 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? so zpack has an effect on covid ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72800744 United States 03/23/2020 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? If you want me to dock other molecules to these proteins, just ask. The docking calculations are made with autodock vina. Proteins and ligands (the antivirals and such) are prepared according to standard. I can disclose the parameters if one wishes to verify these results.
If you are naturopath, 12g of curcumin per day + hefty amount of ground black pepper along does have good effect. Also hefty amount of vitamin C (10g plugged with another 10g 3h later) If you vouch for the drug treatment, I suggest to use Baloxavir. The (hydroxy)chloroquine and azhitromycin aren't nearly as effective.
Myself - I use home made colloidal silver. Cannot dock that one though.
Any questions? :)
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43885299 How would it be even possible to take that much??? I'm on 3000mg of vitamin C right now and its starting to effect my stool.. I take 5 tumeric 450mg capsules every day but that's only 47.5mg curcumin value in each capsule |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43885299 Finland 03/23/2020 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? so zpack has an effect on covid ?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73921753 It definitely binds with the spike protein and presumably renders it inactive so it cannot replicate or enter the ACE2-receptor but not nearly as well as Baloxavir. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73921753 United States 03/23/2020 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not?
so zpack has an effect on covid ?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73921753 It definitely binds with the spike protein and presumably renders it inactive so it cannot replicate or enter the ACE2-receptor but not nearly as well as Baloxavir. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43885299 so Baloxavir better than CQ+ ZPACK ? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43885299 Finland 03/23/2020 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? How would it be even possible to take that much??? I'm on 3000mg of vitamin C right now and its starting to effect my stool.. I take 5 tumeric 450mg capsules every day but that's only 47.5mg curcumin value in each capsule
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72800744 Bulk turmeric powder by the spoon mixed with coconut oil? :) Search scientific article DOI: 10.1016/j.jff.2017.12.017 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73921753 United States 03/23/2020 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? WHAT ABOUT COFFEE , GREEN TEA? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43885299 Finland 03/23/2020 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? so Baloxavir better than CQ+ ZPACK ?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73921753 Yes. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43885299 Finland 03/23/2020 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? WHAT ABOUT COFFEE , GREEN TEA?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73921753 You need to specify the active ingredient which I can dock. I can dock caffeine: Caffeine:6LU7: -5.2 kcal/mol Caffeine:6VSB: -6.6 kcal/mol |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43885299 Finland 03/23/2020 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Values from -6.9 to 0 can be disregarded. They can be considered to not work. From -7.0 to -15 are effective, latter being highly active (and probably selective) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68507541 Canada 03/23/2020 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43885299 Finland 03/23/2020 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68507541 Quercetin:6LU7: -6.3 kcal/mol Quercetin:6VSB: -7.9 kcal/mol Seems to be quite active to the spike protein actually! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73921753 United States 03/23/2020 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? igues NOTHING beats the XOFLUZA ? ..why arent they tryingthis then over CQ? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 43885299 Finland 03/23/2020 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? igues NOTHING beats the XOFLUZA ? ..why arent they tryingthis then over CQ?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73921753 They are. Search for DOI 10.1038/d41587-020-00003-1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68507541 Canada 03/23/2020 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68507541 Quercetin:6LU7: -6.3 kcal/mol Quercetin:6VSB: -7.9 kcal/mol Seems to be quite active to the spike protein actually! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43885299 Awesome! Thank you for sharing the data. Take care:) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73921753 United States 03/23/2020 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? vodka ? |
Crypto-Tard
User ID: 69359666 United States 03/23/2020 04:28 PM
Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Excellent work, OP. 5* When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life.
Don't be afraid. |
Hoseman
User ID: 31126728 United States 03/23/2020 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Baloxavir is a single dose treatment for flu. When would you take it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68507541 Canada 03/23/2020 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Hello again, OP.
Will you please run CoenzymeQ10 as well as PQQ Pyrroloquinoline Quinone.
Thank you:) |
Rootmeister
User ID: 78682697 Finland 03/25/2020 06:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not?
Hello again, OP.
Will you please run CoenzymeQ10 as well as PQQ Pyrroloquinoline Quinone.
Thank you:)
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68507541 Sorry for the late response, I made an free account but still keep get banned.. Here are the results: Coenzyme_Q10:6LU7: -4.2 kcal/mol Pyrroquinoline_quinone:6LU7: -7.7 kcal/mol Coenzyme_Q10:6VSB: -8.8 kcal/mol Pyrroquinoline_quinone:6VSB: -8.1 kcal/mol |
Rootmeister
User ID: 78682697 Finland 03/25/2020 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? vodka ?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73921753 Ethanol denaturates proteins anyway... But the results: Ethanol:6LU7: -2.4 kcal/mol Ethanol:6VSB: -2.7 kcal/mol |
Rootmeister
User ID: 78682697 Finland 03/25/2020 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Baloxavir is a single dose treatment for flu. When would you take it?
Quoting: Hoseman The sooner you have the symptoms the better? |
1unformed1
User ID: 78678634 Israel 03/25/2020 06:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Thanks for your post OP very informative ! 1unformed1 |
Rootmeister
User ID: 78682697 Finland 03/25/2020 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Results for Quinine and Sofosbuvir:
Quinine:6LU7: -6.7 kcal/mol Sofosbuvir:6LU7: -7.9 kcal/mol Quinine:6VSB: -7.7 kcal/mol Sofosbuvir:6VSB: -8.2 kcal/mol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75327296 United States 03/25/2020 07:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Please run
Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18403906 United States 03/25/2020 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Hello again, OP.
Will you please run CoenzymeQ10 as well as PQQ Pyrroloquinoline Quinone.
Thank you:)
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68507541 Sorry for the late response, I made an free account but still keep get banned.. Here are the results: Coenzyme_Q10:6LU7: -4.2 kcal/mol Pyrroquinoline_quinone:6LU7: -7.7 kcal/mol Coenzyme_Q10:6VSB: -8.8 kcal/mol Pyrroquinoline_quinone:6VSB: -8.1 kcal/mol Quoting: Rootmeister Does anyone know how to figure out which of the Co Q10s are in a supplement? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78682786 Switzerland 03/25/2020 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Please run: Rutin Diosgenin |
No Pearls For Swine
User ID: 78682786 Switzerland 03/25/2020 08:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? “If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.” - Obiwan Kenobi |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76626437 United States 03/25/2020 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? WHAT ABOUT COFFEE , GREEN TEA?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73921753 You need to specify the active ingredient which I can dock. I can dock caffeine: Caffeine:6LU7: -5.2 kcal/mol Caffeine:6VSB: -6.6 kcal/mol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43885299 WTF is DOCKING? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78678429 Norway 03/25/2020 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Hard facts: Drug affinities for covid19 - what works and what not? Can you test Hydroquinone? |
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