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Negative rates just hit United States. Pay the government to loan them money! What a deal!

 
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So are we now going to pay banks to keep our money? wtf
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Pay off the fed reserve "debt" and issue gold backed US treasury notes -

debt gone.

We manufacture our own stuff in the USA.

The fed reserve, IMF, and central banks are gone.
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Smells like nothingburger
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I imagine you walking around all day and just repeating " nothingburger"over and over whenever you don't understand something.Which I bet is a lot.
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So are we now going to pay banks to keep our money? wtf
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That's the path we are going down
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Smells like nothingburger
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Short term it is.
Long term. It’s gonna be like being stuck on an island with a hot chick that has a dick.
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best of both worlds buddy

I'm figuring my student loans are gonna be chicken scratch by the time this settles out.
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whew, guess that is a matter of perspective, ain't it? Yikes!
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Smells like nothingburger
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Short term it is.
Long term. It’s gonna be like being stuck on an island with a hot chick that has a dick.
 Quoting: The Repair Job


best of both worlds buddy

I'm figuring my student loans are gonna be chicken scratch by the time this settles out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77311748


whew, guess that is a matter of perspective, ain't it? Yikes!
 Quoting: continuity


When the fiat currency is worthless and we all are in FEMA camps you won't have to worry about your student loans! Glass half full! 5a
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So are we now going to pay banks to keep our money? wtf
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Dead right
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When I re-financed my home mortgage and took money out, through a credit union - my mortgage automatically went to Fannie Mae (a government agency).

Real estate backup for a US government - not a fed reserve "bank note".
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Smells like nothingburger
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Short term it is.
Long term. It’s gonna be like being stuck on an island with a hot chick that has a dick.
 Quoting: The Repair Job


Bj's for life.
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So are we now going to pay banks to keep our money? wtf
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My brother just emptied his bank account into
his safe.
Now his safe is full of FRNs that are worth less
and less, day by day.
At least he's got his hands on it,
and some REAL gold and silver that he can
fondle, but I told him he should convert all
those FRNs into things that will shortly
APPRECIATE in value.
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Negative interest rates are the solution. They can fix the economy. If you don't believe it now then you will at some point in the future.

Negative interest rates...

can end a depression in a matter of weeks...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

can work eternally...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

can fix liquidity problems (central banks are desperate)...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

are good for financial stability...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

Why it is happening (the math is simple)...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

A simple explanation why it is happening (just in case previous explanation still was too difficult)...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

The sooner you get this, the faster things can be fixed.
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If you want to make a tiny amount of interest, that's guaranteed, buy a CD or Certificate of Deposit and you won't have to worry about losing your money and you will earn a negligible amount of interest!
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Smells like nothingburger
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Short term it is.
Long term. It’s gonna be like being stuck on an island with a hot chick that has a dick.
 Quoting: The Repair Job


Bj's for life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74861002

That...or bend over.
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Anybody?
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John Law.

It's obvious.
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We are now negative and the media is now covering it

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]
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This is getting out of hand
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Negative interest rates are the solution. They can fix the economy. If you don't believe it now then you will at some point in the future.

Negative interest rates...

can end a depression in a matter of weeks...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

can work eternally...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

can fix liquidity problems (central banks are desperate)...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

are good for financial stability...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

Why it is happening (the math is simple)...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

A simple explanation why it is happening (just in case previous explanation still was too difficult)...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

The sooner you get this, the faster things can be fixed.
 Quoting: niphtrique


Really dude... Really!?!

No it's not good!

With negative interest rates, cash deposited at a bank yields a storage charge, rather than the opportunity to earn interest income; the idea is to incentivize loaning and spending, rather than saving and hoarding.

When you deposit money in an account at a financial institution, you are in effect becoming a lender—letting the bank have use of your funds—and the institution effectively becomes a borrower.

With negative interest rates, cash deposited at a bank yields a storage charge, rather than the opportunity to earn interest income.

There is also nothing to stop deposit holders from withdrawing their money and stuffing the physical cash in mattresses. While the initial threat would be a run on banks, the drain of cash from the banking system could lead to a rise in interest rates—the exact opposite of what negative interest rates are supposed to achieve.


Negative rates are counterintuitive and in essence are the breaking down of our fiat debt backed monetary system effectively putting us into the twilight zone at this point.
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Needs to be pinned, this is unprecedented here!
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Pay off the fed reserve "debt" and issue gold backed US treasury notes -

debt gone.

We manufacture our own stuff in the USA.

The fed reserve, IMF, and central banks are gone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76140145




epiclol

kneel

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Some Will. Some won't. So.......
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SOOOO U write this.....

"Negative rates are counterintuitive and in essence are the breaking down of our fiat debt backed monetary system effectively putting us into the twilight zone at this point".


and I say... U are a globalist that want our USA DOLLAR control destroyed.....

Am I right? well POTUS does not want our dollar dead, he and true patriots wants more for our country as we fight the DEEP, CHICOM, JewS-Zions and the russkies.......

U and the rest of the world better wakeUP.....
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Pay off the fed reserve "debt" and issue gold backed US treasury notes -

debt gone.

We manufacture our own stuff in the USA.

The fed reserve, IMF, and central banks are gone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76140145


central bankers would implode occupied buildings (again) before they let that happen
Hi. My name is Bob, and I'll be your sniper today.
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Better get into good cryptocurrencies like Dash before its too late. Soon, you won't have the ability to park your wealth anywhere if you stick with $$$.
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We are now negative and the media is now covering it

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]
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That's not a negative interest rate.

The interest rate on the T-bills are still positive.

The yield is negative because people are paying more than face value (par value) for the bonds.

Even in the sensationalized article you posted, they start of with the title of "negative rates" and then quickly correct themselves in the body of the article with "negative yields".

There is a big difference between a negative rate and a negative yield.

Can anyone find a bank account anywhere in the US that is offering a negative interest rate on checking/savings/CD's?
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SOOOO U write this.....

"Negative rates are counterintuitive and in essence are the breaking down of our fiat debt backed monetary system effectively putting us into the twilight zone at this point".


and I say... U are a globalist that want our USA DOLLAR control destroyed.....

Am I right? well POTUS does not want our dollar dead, he and true patriots wants more for our country as we fight the DEEP, CHICOM, JewS-Zions and the russkies.......

U and the rest of the world better wakeUP.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78284226


Negative rates and trillions upon trillions of currency being created and pumped into the system are very types of things that will kill the dollar and that's exactly what's going on now.

I'm astonish so many people do not know this! Nevermind, We live in the mindless sheeple society.
Forgot that for a second. deadhorse
hankie
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Re: Negative rates just hit United States. Pay the government to loan them money! What a deal!
Overnight I caught this.....

Negativerate

That is not a glitch and you are reading that right.. a negative rate Treasury bond!

Later on it did go up slightly into the positive [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]

Regardless it went negative and we are going negative again even more so.
That is the trajectory we are on.

In essence pay the government to loan them money, or another example loan out money to lock in getting less in return.

What do you people think would happen when you order endless amounts of businesses to shut down and order millions of people into a lock down!?! Now you've got a Federal Reserve saying we've got infinite cash and will do whatever it takes.
"Infinite" not my words.. directly from the Federal Reserve: [link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]

No amount of endless fiat cash can save this! At best we'll end up as Zimbabwe, if you don't know the story look it up. Hyper fiat creation has it's own death sentence!

If we don't open back up the economy and get people back to work ASAP our fiat debt based currency system will implode.
Negative rates are the first sign, first glitch in the Matrix revealing we are at the end game of this current fiat system holding up.

If that happens then fiat currency will tell Coronavirus to "hold my beer" when it comes to wiping people out and having blood in the streets!

It'll be the perfect way into the New World order and a one world currency and the craziest part is the sheeple will be begging for it! Just like they are begging for the Central Banks to come save them now!
In order to get the New World order and currency through you need a world wide event to occur to destroy people on so many levels as they will be begging for it too. The virus which most all would survive through is the cover story to shut everything down and push forth this agenda.
It's all right there currently right before our very eyes.
The real question is that if people walk completely on their own free will into the slaughter house is not not their fault they got slaughtered?
It's time to turn away and walk if not run into the opposite direction.
Sadly no matter what you say or do including myself most won't listen or refuse to believe and will continue on walking into the Slaughter house...


spock




Shitrealz
Tpshelter
 Quoting: Flying Poptart


What in the hay are you talking about, we been in a one-world currency for since 1913!!!!!!!!!!! What do you think fiat money is? Rothschild set up this first, then a group in the US decided to do the same, freak is you going to understand it been here a long time.
Sorry I got a headache

These are the times that tries men's and
women's souls!

May we come though it victorious!
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We are now negative and the media is now covering it

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Flying Poptart


That's not a negative interest rate.

The interest rate on the T-bills are still positive.

The yield is negative because people are paying more than face value (par value) for the bonds.

Even in the sensationalized article you posted, they start of with the title of "negative rates" and then quickly correct themselves in the body of the article with "negative yields".

There is a big difference between a negative rate and a negative yield.

Can anyone find a bank account anywhere in the US that is offering a negative interest rate on checking/savings/CD's?
 Quoting: Callin


It's the path we are going down, it's obvious now
In Denmark negative mortgages already exist.
[link to www.fortune.com (secure)]

This already has been going on and spreading. [link to www.negative-interest-rates-japan-germany-france-150324580.ht​ml (secure)]
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Negative interest rates are the solution. They can fix the economy. If you don't believe it now then you will at some point in the future.

Negative interest rates...

can end a depression in a matter of weeks...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

can work eternally...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

can fix liquidity problems (central banks are desperate)...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

are good for financial stability...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

Why it is happening (the math is simple)...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

A simple explanation why it is happening (just in case previous explanation still was too difficult)...

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

The sooner you get this, the faster things can be fixed.
 Quoting: niphtrique


Really dude... Really!?!

No it's not good!

With negative interest rates, cash deposited at a bank yields a storage charge, rather than the opportunity to earn interest income; the idea is to incentivize loaning and spending, rather than saving and hoarding.

When you deposit money in an account at a financial institution, you are in effect becoming a lender—letting the bank have use of your funds—and the institution effectively becomes a borrower.

With negative interest rates, cash deposited at a bank yields a storage charge, rather than the opportunity to earn interest income.

There is also nothing to stop deposit holders from withdrawing their money and stuffing the physical cash in mattresses. While the initial threat would be a run on banks, the drain of cash from the banking system could lead to a rise in interest rates—the exact opposite of what negative interest rates are supposed to achieve.


Negative rates are counterintuitive and in essence are the breaking down of our fiat debt backed monetary system effectively putting us into the twilight zone at this point.
 Quoting: Flying Poptart


As is the case with markets, it is supply and demand.

To many savings means negative interest rates.

Of course Americans don't save too much but others do.

But for the cash 'problem' there is a 'solution'.

It is decoupling it from the central bank currency. Cash can be issued by the treasury like this:

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

So cash will be a loan to the government and not printed by the FED.

The negative rate on cash would be the short-term treasury yield.

Don't think this is going to crash the currency.

Negative interest rates mean money destruction not money creation. It is deflationary.

The economy may even do great. Look at this:

[link to www.naturalmoney.org (secure)]

This can end a depression in a matter of weeks.

And the strongest currencies have the lowest interest rates (swiss franc is now -0,75).

Last Edited by niphtrique on 03/25/2020 12:29 PM
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Nevermind, We live in the mindless sheeple society.
Forgot that for a second. deadhorse
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Politicians love us and will certainly saeve us once again.

All that's required is KNEELING HEARDER and all the pain goes away!


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kneel

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Some Will. Some won't. So.......
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Re: Negative rates just hit United States. Pay the government to loan them money! What a deal!
Overnight I caught this.....

Negativerate

That is not a glitch and you are reading that right.. a negative rate Treasury bond!

Later on it did go up slightly into the positive [link to i.imgur.com (secure)]

[link to www.cnbc.com (secure)]

Regardless it went negative and we are going negative again even more so.
That is the trajectory we are on.

In essence pay the government to loan them money, or another example loan out money to lock in getting less in return.

What do you people think would happen when you order endless amounts of businesses to shut down and order millions of people into a lock down!?! Now you've got a Federal Reserve saying we've got infinite cash and will do whatever it takes.
"Infinite" not my words.. directly from the Federal Reserve: [link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]

No amount of endless fiat cash can save this! At best we'll end up as Zimbabwe, if you don't know the story look it up. Hyper fiat creation has it's own death sentence!

If we don't open back up the economy and get people back to work ASAP our fiat debt based currency system will implode.
Negative rates are the first sign, first glitch in the Matrix revealing we are at the end game of this current fiat system holding up.

If that happens then fiat currency will tell Coronavirus to "hold my beer" when it comes to wiping people out and having blood in the streets!

It'll be the perfect way into the New World order and a one world currency and the craziest part is the sheeple will be begging for it! Just like they are begging for the Central Banks to come save them now!
In order to get the New World order and currency through you need a world wide event to occur to destroy people on so many levels as they will be begging for it too. The virus which most all would survive through is the cover story to shut everything down and push forth this agenda.
It's all right there currently right before our very eyes.
The real question is that if people walk completely on their own free will into the slaughter house is not not their fault they got slaughtered?
It's time to turn away and walk if not run into the opposite direction.
Sadly no matter what you say or do including myself most won't listen or refuse to believe and will continue on walking into the Slaughter house...


spock




Shitrealz
Tpshelter
 Quoting: Flying Poptart


What in the hay are you talking about, we been in a one-world currency for since 1913!!!!!!!!!!! What do you think fiat money is? Rothschild set up this first, then a group in the US decided to do the same, freak is you going to understand it been here a long time.
 Quoting: hankie


In not always been fiat for that long like you're making out.

Dollars bills used to say on them "in gold coin payable to the bearer on demand" look
[link to themoneymongers.com (secure)]

Last Edited by Flying Poptart on 03/25/2020 12:33 PM
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If you want to make a tiny amount of interest, that's guaranteed, buy a CD or Certificate of Deposit and you won't have to worry about losing your money and you will earn a negligible amount of interest!
 Quoting: BRIEF


If you hold money you will be losing it to inflation anyway.





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