Hey, CORONA Hoax tards and Shills, get in here! Why lie?

Without firing a single shot...

TPTB shut down our entire country in fear, and decimated the US economy.

If you can't see this, perhaps go play with your 'My Little Pony'...

I don't get it, so maybe some of you can explain it.

Why do you think this is a hoax? why are you saying this isn't as bad as it seems?

i'm hear in europe, very close to the italian border, and i have been watching this play out for quite a few weeks now.

some of you are saying this is a hoax to bring trump down. i'm a major trump tard, and voted for him last election, and will vote for him again (yes, i'm american despite my flag and current location). do you think we here in switzerland, that closed the entire economy down, care about trump? china lost much more in this than waiting out 4 more year of trump. and, how do you get the whole world to collude against trump and spite themselves bigly in the process?

and, to the, "it's just a flu" tards out there.

this is a "novel" virus. meaning, new--our immune system has no defense against it. the case rate, spread, and mortality is only just starting to pick up.

and, the ones that say it only kills old people. again, there are plenty of young healthy people getting this and needing urgent care in the hospital for weeks... some of them are dying too.

i just don't get what the reason for you people saying this is nothing. it's just hitting america now. these threads about, i don't know anyone... i hear this and have to cringe. you will very soon. i don't say that with any joy either.

i'd like to hear some polite arguments here, with facts. i will resond with the same. it seems to me, some of you may be in denial, some don't understand enough about it, and some are just total shills. the shills are the ones i understand the least. what is the purpose? who's benefiting from your shilling?

stay well GLP.

the stats are all here (including yet another day with a record mortality rate): [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]

I was one of the first to warn once I saw the first signs from wuhan. I said this is gonna be a problem....all the hoaxtards shot me down said it was just like Ebola etc. etc.

Now I'm saying get a grip of yourself people. This is in the same range as a bad flu season in terms of fatalities. Social distancing makes sense but lets not get carried away. I' think the 4/12 date is appropriate.

Now that they have our attention I think the country as a whole can take steps to quarantine the sick and elderly and then get back to work.

More like a plandemic.

hoax or not... sheeple still get their natural rights taken away for safety

Locking people in their homes is unconstitutional.. but no one seems to care

People have a right to their own bodies safety

Gear mongering thread ALERT

I believe there is a virus but it doesn't match the hype.

If it were this bad, YouTube would be full of personal first hand videos. Only thing on there is MSM crap and why would anyone believe known liars?

I got Facebook, dont care. And I got friends, and they have friends and those friends of friends of friends. And NOONE knows a single dead person!!

This is the biggest social experiment in human history, and well you believe in elections and dead people on tv, which shows you or the virus believers are doing exactly what they thought you would BELIEVE IN MSM!!

I think there is a virus, and I'm sure it isn't pretty.

There have been tests that show chloroquine is 100% effective in fighting this virus.

That knocks the odds of dying down to a very low percentage.

So first President Trump makes a fantastic trade deal with China.

At the same time, we learn that democrats are advising China on how to beat the President.

It's also an election year, so a brand new virus would help China and the sick globalists with their goals.

So it's a horrible bio weapon, that sucks at killing mass numbers of people, but will help with their sick population control since the CDC says that the elderly are the ones being targeted.

I'm sure it's serious OP. But our freedom is far more serious.

"Give me liberty or give me death..."

One reason here in the US we are around 1% fatal is our doctor knew this virus goes into overdrive if the patient are taking any Ibuprofen med/s...blood pressure, blood thinners, and almost all anti-inflammatory meds.
both Italy and China were trying to use Ibuprofen to fight the virus....that caused the people to die in hours.

My father heart doctor had him stop take all his meds with Ibuprofen..Some were replace with better more expensive ones....and some just stopped and he must watch his diet.

30 something taking this for minor cases..well they die....even a child give Ibuprofen can die in 4 to 6 hours.....

This is how China was able to go from 3,000 dead to under 150 the next 2 months....the lockdown was not the deciding factor.

in the US....based on FACTS.
6 years ago the annual flu was so bad...almost 150,000 died during the 6 month season.
this year that number will be around 30,000
so take the total of 687 multiple that by 75 add it to this years total and still will be around half the total from the flu 6 years

hi, are you talking to me, the OP of the thread, or the poster of the quote?

not sure. yes, i agree somewhat, but again, as an american living here in europe, know we, at least me, tend to be very USAcentric. it's not always about the USA. this pandemic is causing all of us in almost every country giant problems.

the thing is, what if giving you liberty, makes most of us, and you, dead?

just something to ponder.

OP, I had been pondering this as well for many days now.

I have tried to educate. I have been patient. I have appealed to emotion, reason, authority--nothing works with many of the people who you're calling out.

Then, the other day, the answer appeared before me: these are, by and large, stupid people.

These are mostly low IQ stupid folks who are just intelligent enough to hold a low-skill non-intellectual job and use the internet. They lack the critical reasoning to discern between reality and the fantasy sold to them by their peers.

You will never get a satisfying answer from them. You will never be able to educate them, or help them. Stop wasting your time on them.

They will necessitate more stringent quarantine measures from those of us who are not idiots, and they will bring down the police state upon us. They are too stupid to understand or to care. They are also too stupid to take responsibility for their actions and you can bet they will be a problem when the police state arrives.

Throughout history, stupid people have always made life more challenging for societies. Nothing has changed.

hahahahaha. that's funny. a bullshit flag on a question.

so, you have absolutely nothing to add, but your worthless bs flag. thanks for helping my premise.

I don't get it, so maybe some of you can explain it.

Why do you think this is a hoax? why are you saying this isn't as bad as it seems?

i'm hear in europe, very close to the italian border, and i have been watching this play out for quite a few weeks now.

some of you are saying this is a hoax to bring trump down. i'm a major trump tard, and voted for him last election, and will vote for him again (yes, i'm american despite my flag and current location). do you think we here in switzerland, that closed the entire economy down, care about trump? china lost much more in this than waiting out 4 more year of trump. and, how do you get the whole world to collude against trump and spite themselves bigly in the process?

and, to the, "it's just a flu" tards out there.

this is a "novel" virus. meaning, new--our immune system has no defense against it. the case rate, spread, and mortality is only just starting to pick up.

and, the ones that say it only kills old people. again, there are plenty of young healthy people getting this and needing urgent care in the hospital for weeks... some of them are dying too.

i just don't get what the reason for you people saying this is nothing. it's just hitting america now. these threads about, i don't know anyone... i hear this and have to cringe. you will very soon. i don't say that with any joy either.

i'd like to hear some polite arguments here, with facts. i will resond with the same. it seems to me, some of you may be in denial, some don't understand enough about it, and some are just total shills. the shills are the ones i understand the least. what is the purpose? who's benefiting from your shilling?

stay well GLP.

the stats are all here (including yet another day with a record mortality rate): [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]

Whether the virus itself is real or not in not the point. it's the old adage "never let a good crisis go to waste". The vurus could be totally man made. You've got to take a look at the overall picture.

On October 18 two major events happened.

One - Event 201, a pandemic simulation/exercise that is so eerily similar to what the world is now dealing with makes me believe this was all planned.

Two - The World Military Games started in Wuhan, the epicentre of the outbreak.

Bill and Melinda gates. Bill has been speaking for years about population control through vaccines. Bill and Belinda gates Foundation were major players in the Event 201 pandemic exercise.

I believe this crisis is going to used for a multi pronged attack on our way of life, or what we once knew only a few months ago.
Central banks globally have now unleashed unlimited QE, infinite money printing. This is injecting liquidity in the markets and although as of today there has been a small rise but it's going to fail...again. This crisis will be used to prop up the failing system and banks. Why? We are witnessing one of the largest asset bubbles the world has ever seen and it was crashing since last year. Governments around the world all passed bail in laws, ie depositers money will be used to bail out failing banks. They have been trying to pass the cash bill in Australia, ie Cash trans actions over 10k but that's not a fixed number, once the bill passes, with the stroke of a pen they could make it $200. The central banks around the world would love it for everybody to go digital. It guarantees you will be locked into the fake banking system and it's one step closer to total control of all of our lives. Also it would prevent large cash withdrawals once the markets go to negative interest rates.

We will be all forced to have a covid19 vaccine. We will beg for it. We will be begging for our own demise. A vaccine that will most likely kill more people than the virus itself but also to slow down population growth.

We also need to watch carefully for new laws and bills that are being rushed through.

Keep your eyes and ears open OP as more will reveal itself in the coming days, weeks and months because this is what the globalist elites have been wanting and planning decades for.

hahahahaha. that's funny. a bullshit flag on a question.

so, you have absolutely nothing to add, but your worthless bs flag. thanks for helping my premise.

I hope the virus wipes out some of the hoaxtards. I am not talking about those that question the origin of it, just the ones that believe the virus is a total hoax. I know that I'm an asshole and don't care.

so you're basing everything on Anecdotal evidence?
ok, fair enough. stay safe

I don't deny sick people, you fukking retard.
It's the flu. The control measures are disgusting.

And you're basing everything on... Chinese bought out WHO? Doctor faggi? A media that's screamed the sky is falling for the past four years? ZERO pictures of overrun hospitals? ZERO pics of Americans that actually have it? Lol good lil sheepy you are.

Good work.

I never knew a man to show how scared he is in front of so many people.
Take that into consideration JJ3.
Your panties are showing.
Man up.

And you're basing everything on... Chinese bought out WHO? Doctor faggi? A media that's screamed the sky is falling for the past four years? ZERO pictures of overrun hospitals? ZERO pics of Americans that actually have it? Lol good lil sheepy you are.

Good work.

I don't get it, so maybe some of you can explain it.

Why do you think this is a hoax? why are you saying this isn't as bad as it seems?

i'm here in europe, very close to the italian border, and i have been watching this play out for quite a few weeks now.

some of you are saying this is a hoax to bring trump down. i'm a major trump tard, and voted for him last election, and will vote for him again (yes, i'm american despite my flag and current location). do you think we here in switzerland, that closed the entire economy down, care about trump? china lost much more in this than waiting out 4 more year of trump. and, how do you get the whole world to collude against trump and spite themselves bigly in the process?

and, to the, "it's just a flu" tards out there.

this is a "novel" virus. meaning, new--our immune system has no defense against it. the case rate, spread, and mortality is only just starting to pick up.

and, the ones that say it only kills old people. again, there are plenty of young healthy people getting this and needing urgent care in the hospital for weeks... some of them are dying too.

i just don't get what the reason for you people saying this is nothing. it's just hitting america now. these threads about, i don't know anyone... i hear this and have to cringe. you will very soon. i don't say that with any joy either.

i'd like to hear some polite arguments here, with facts. i will resond with the same. it seems to me, some of you may be in denial, some don't understand enough about it, and some are just total shills. the shills are the ones i understand the least. what is the purpose? who's benefiting from your shilling?

stay well GLP.

the stats are all here (including yet another day with a record mortality rate): [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]

Hello JJ Johns in Lugano (or vicinity)...a lovely place and people, one of my favorites.

We need to be clear. There is an actual virus, it's real and some people have died from it. What's fake is the media promotion and fear is completely out of control. It's being run by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) and the people aligned with them (i.e. Dems, Merkel in Germany, Macron in France, central bankers, WHO, etc). Those bad ones are the ones behind this promotion.

I know a lot of people who are Chinese because of the Falun Gong meditation I do, which is persecuted in China. They have inside info that's accurate. You can not trust anything the CCP says or even WHO, as they are under the control of the CCP, as well.

Here's a post (less than 50%):

[link to www.henrimacow.com (secure)]

*replace i with y and c with k to see link, it's blocked here

Because I've been doing Falun Gong meditation for 12 years, I know a lot of Chinese people. Many were persecuted by the CCP for meditating (faluninfo.net). They're telling me "it's just a bad flu" and "there's no medical reason to lock 700m people down."

People on the street in Wuhan were asked "Are you grateful to the government and the country?" -- "What the hell should I be grateful for? They're killing us!" is a common response.

People die every day and some die from the flu, but CV is not even at the level of regular flu yet. As of Monday, only 28 people in the US have died from CV; many were over 80 years old with critical medical conditions, yet they propose locking down society. Regular flu was responsible for about 70,000 deaths in the US last year, but no one calls for a lockdown for flu.

There is no logical reason to lock everything down like they did in China, unless eliminating political opposition is the main goal. Lockdowns that are pre-announced actually can help spread an epidemic, as infected people flee and bring the illness to new areas. Self-quarantine of at risk groups does work, they should do this on their own.

Another friend who has a business importing Chinese electronics to the US told me "we were down for about two weeks, but everything is now back to normal in China, I have no supply problems." Another person in China told a friend, "the CCP is using this to eliminate people using social credit scores".

Look where the CV has hit the hardest. China, South Korea, Italy, Seattle, California and New York. These are all under the sway of the CCP. Italy is part of China's "belt and road"; in South Korea, the current president is a supporter of China; in California they recently named the new $1.6B San Francisco Chinatown subway station after Rose Pak, a notorious CCP agent. Seattle even has a large statue of Lenin and New York (Flushing) is full of recent Chinese immigrants, many still loyal to the CCP. Hotbeds of CV are hotbeds of the CCP.

Notice the low present rates of infection in Latin America, India, Africa and other places that don't have as much CCP influence.

895 is a fucking asshole

what you fail to conceive is, i'm here in switzerland, and our economy, along with many, if not most, around the world are also crumbling. cui bono? you say only against the american econmy. this is against all of us. please explain

and, ps. decimate is to decrease by 1/10th... it is so falsely used, that people now have come to accept it means what you think it means. just sayin. and, i'm only pointing this out since my little pony, that you told me to play with, mentioned it.

Yes, being Swiss, I figured you would have a My Little Pony.

Thank you for correcting my numbers, as it will be more like deci x deci when all is said and done.

Testing for number of cases?? Would be like testing for any flu virus in the population. Most have no symptoms, few get gravely ill. Same as a cold or flu, and the time and money spent tracking such a thing is idiotic.

1st hand example...
In the course of driving a rental truck x-country (USA), my brother became very sick, coughing, hacking, phlegm, passed-out even... really bad... went to ER, they would not test due to him not having left the country...
YOU SEE???!! MEANINGLESS!

Like I said, they took all the old folks Money$$, and killed off a bunch of those in poor shape, which are at risk from the flu vax!

Are you pickin' up what I am puttin' down now, brah-swissy?