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To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?

 
nineteeneightyfive

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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
To be sure, elders in any society hold the knowledge and wisdom.

Case in point: Boeing axed older engineers via forced early retirements to save $.

Afterward, they designed and manufactured the 737 MAX.

If the elderly are culled, the next generation and all to come after will be a lesser people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75157012


Man, this topic can surely go either way... But the bases of reasoning for the wrongness implicated, is simply, these are human beings! Some people will say that generation is responsible 4 the way we are now, this newer generation, but there is hardly enough data to prove that one way or the other.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How old is old?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78223802


ever see the movie Logans Run?

I think after 30 you were useless. In the current paradigm social security age would be the consensus. Certainly among millennials.
 Quoting: Irish eyes


Society would be better served to cull the millennials.
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03/26/2020 01:19 AM

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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
Well, all the folks who grew up and became cognizant of the rights we all hold under the Constitution

...they all have to go.


But all the younger people who are completely on board for socialism, communism, and eliminating the 2nd Amendment can stay.
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That does seem to be the plan.
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nineteeneightyfive

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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
What part of posting your old ass up in a hospital and having 20 somethings nurses bring you jello is "letting you die". Your ancestors would sacrifice their first born for such a luxury.

better check yourself before you wreck yourself
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What you need, is a nice stiff bitch slap across your mug, Canuckturd. Preferably by a Centenarian.
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Ac785 7 just went there!!!

I would have given you some green karma, if you had now username!
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
What part of posting your old ass up in a hospital and having 20 somethings nurses bring you jello is "letting you die". Your ancestors would sacrifice their first born for such a luxury.

better check yourself before you wreck yourself
 Quoting: Mi Flu Yu


What you need, is a nice stiff bitch slap across your mug, Canuckturd. Preferably by a Centenarian.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572476


Ac785 7 just went there!!!

I would have given you some green karma, if you had now username!
butt
 Quoting: nineteeneightyfive


So the guy that pretends young people want to kill him deserves green and the guy who is grateful to have people that will care for him doesn't?

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03/26/2020 01:29 AM

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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How old is old?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78223802


ever see the movie Logans Run?

I think after 30 you were useless. In the current paradigm social security age would be the consensus. Certainly among millennials.
 Quoting: Irish eyes


"In Time" is another movie where people are genetically engineered to stop aging at 25, when a one-year countdown on their forearm begins. When it reaches zero, the person "times out" and dies instantly.
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03/26/2020 01:31 AM

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People die and that's just a part of life.
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03/26/2020 01:38 AM
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How old is old?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78223802


ever see the movie Logans Run?

I think after 30 you were useless. In the current paradigm social security age would be the consensus. Certainly among millennials.
 Quoting: Irish eyes


In the past, all great civilizations greatly respected and revered their elderly.

Any "society" that tosses their elderly aside, or calls for their elimination, will forfeit their OWN chance for life eternal.

The wrath of God will fall on all scum who call for the demise of the elderly.

Bank on it.
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Well the Norse and Scandinavians marched theirs up to a cliff when they could not walk. Had a funeral helped them stand up and watched them fall backwards to the rocks below. If you really study history little if any cultures were willing to take on extra burden in a society. Not supporting just saying history is not where you should look
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
Question could have to be answered soon. Like it or not!

I don’t think we can allow anarchy can we?
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What kind of total freak thinks old people are a problem compared to feckless foodcard marxist public pencil sharpeners? There has rarely been a more life ignorant and useless batch of humans than the democrat crowd?
I think they keep saying "kill the old" because in truth, they know how fkd up they are and its mehtal "coping" that its "not them".
Too late and dam? Talk about CRAZY?
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03/26/2020 01:40 AM
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none of the above because there is so many two dimensional thinkers on here..

if you arent living in fear and embrace the day and the lord

you have nothing to fear
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
If society ever gets to the point where we let our elderly die, then society itself is so corrupt that there isn't hope all for anyone.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How old is old?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78223802


ever see the movie Logans Run?

I think after 30 you were useless. In the current paradigm social security age would be the consensus. Certainly among millennials.
 Quoting: Irish eyes


In the past, all great civilizations greatly respected and revered their elderly.

Any "society" that tosses their elderly aside, or calls for their elimination, will forfeit their OWN chance for life eternal.

The wrath of God will fall on all scum who call for the demise of the elderly.

Bank on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572476


I don't know ANY young people who can do advanced math, chemistry, engineering, etc. as well as the old guys.

Kill off the old and lose your tech that civilization depends on.
 Quoting: darth


Computers, your not needed.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?

I don’t think we can allow anarchy can we?
 Quoting: Baby Xoda


Purposely not caring about spreading the virus so that it wipes out the elderly is now considered a terrorist act.

So that's no longer an option.

You could do it anyway, but then Bubba gonna give you dat virus every day in prison so where does that get ya?
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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ever see the movie Logans Run?

I think after 30 you were useless. In the current paradigm social security age would be the consensus. Certainly among millennials.
 Quoting: Irish eyes


In the past, all great civilizations greatly respected and revered their elderly.

Any "society" that tosses their elderly aside, or calls for their elimination, will forfeit their OWN chance for life eternal.

The wrath of God will fall on all scum who call for the demise of the elderly.

Bank on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572476


I don't know ANY young people who can do advanced math, chemistry, engineering, etc. as well as the old guys.

Kill off the old and lose your tech that civilization depends on.
 Quoting: darth


Computers, your not needed.
 Quoting: Seeker 2


You have to be able to read with comprehension, analyze, and apply knowledge.

Also, its not all on the internet. In my industry a lot of the info is in old books that are out of print as well as the trade secrets in the heads of the old guys.
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03/26/2020 01:51 AM
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
To be sure, elders in any society hold the knowledge and wisdom.

Case in point: Boeing axed older engineers via forced early retirements to save $.

Afterward, they designed and manufactured the 737 MAX.

If the elderly are culled, the next generation and all to come after will be a lesser people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75157012


Man, this topic can surely go either way... But the bases of reasoning for the wrongness implicated, is simply, these are human beings! Some people will say that generation is responsible 4 the way we are now, this newer generation, but there is hardly enough data to prove that one way or the other.
 Quoting: nineteeneightyfive


I saw multiple aerospace projects fail when I was an engineer. In every case, the old guys had retired or been laid off to cut labor rates.

I was the Project Engineer on the Space Launch System for my aerospace company in 1988. We were behind schedule.

We brought in a few retired veterans of Apollo and they got us back on schedule in two weeks.

I remember one meeting where young engineers were presenting trade studies on the engines for the second stage. Young guys did not know which engine to use. Said they needed more trade studies and simulations.

Apollo vet said, "Use the J2S. Trade studies, hell, we already built birds with it". They KNEW.
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03/26/2020 02:10 AM
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
We need a balanced plan to beef up our capacity to treat the ill, protect the old as best we can via social distancing, and protecting our economy naturally (not by massive money printing bailouts) while trying to minimize spread through distancing and quick reactions to hot spots.


With everyone home we have no idea who was at the store when so and so was there spreading the virus. If they are at work we know exactly who they contacted
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76549089



Social distancing? Ugh. How many idiots will be parroting off this new government term. They put plenty of thought and the social engineers are smart. See this isnt just a suggestion it will be a new way of life. The media training us showing us clips of i believe a mayor counsel men celebrating a night out at a local restaurant. Blasted on social media and showing us what happens if we talk to each other in public. I tried all week looking fore someone who knew someone. Been speaking with friends coast to coast and nothing. All 3rd hand reports. Media would be showing hospitals overflowing. People would be dead in the street in mass. These huge homeless camps would have been hit hard. Nope. Half the world shut down in unison fuck the virus what hell could they have planned for us?
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How would that save society?
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
I'm just over 60, had a rough life, lots of injuries now arthritis and more.
Very few days I feel good anymore.

If the new generations want old folks to die off then they need to legalize assisted euthenasia first.

I'd love to pick a certain day, do my bucket list the weeks before, say farewell to all my friends & family then have a last "birthday/deathday" party and go to my rewards out on some nice gentle fall asleep drugs.

I worked in a retirement home before and most deaths were sad and lonely. No family, no last fun.

I'd much rather leave on my own schedule and as a matter of fact, I probably will choose a day to depart on my own terms but assisted would make me much happier. Wouldn't want to botch it up and be a drooling vegetable on top of what I deal with now and as I age.
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03/26/2020 02:17 AM
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How old is old?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78223802


They're looking at anyone over 35.
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Then white Europe is fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78223802


Baby boom in nine months
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
The ones who died, died from pre-existing, underlying conditions that pneumonia would be deadly.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How old is old?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78223802


ever see the movie Logans Run?

I think after 30 you were useless. In the current paradigm social security age would be the consensus. Certainly among millennials.
 Quoting: Irish eyes


That would be a big cost incentive too! No worries about paying out ss with an empty fund.

But OP's title bothers me.

Here's why, simply put with another question.... Would we even have the pretense of "society and civilization" left if we did? And when it was over, could we face ourselves?

This needs to be mentioned... discussed.

Don't beast around the bush... this will turn into hospice care for those diagnosed with ______ and over the age of____.

Are we all ready for that?

Have we that little faith in our own humanity?

I am only asking the Q.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
If let them die is the choice Then civilization dead already.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
If that becomes a choice, then civilization is already dead.
Who's next? At what cost?
Maybe Democrats or Republicans are a threat to society after that?
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
This is idiotic.

Letting old people die doesn't save anyone.

Lots of people in their 30s are dying.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up.

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03/26/2020 02:49 AM
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
Your poll does not make sense!

Society and civilisation, both, will collapse if all the elders are lost.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How about this: honor everyone, and learn from each other.

GenX wisdom for you. Back to my doom sammy...which tastes exactly the same to me as it did in the 90s.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How old is old?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78223802


ever see the movie Logans Run?

I think after 30 you were useless. In the current paradigm social security age would be the consensus. Certainly among millennials.
 Quoting: Irish eyes


"In Time" is another movie where people are genetically engineered to stop aging at 25, when a one-year countdown on their forearm begins. When it reaches zero, the person "times out" and dies instantly.
 Quoting: Ferly


if you watch the movie "sisters" starring teena fey you can see that people over 30 really are a lot of trouble!! also watch the movie "step brothers" starring will ferrell, and again u can see that people over 30 are so much trouble it's not worth it. also the movie "elf" starring will ferrell showed that elfs can sure get up to a lot of hanky panky. and probly far too much trouble wehn they are over 30.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
How the hell would letting the elderly die save society and civilization? The question itself is an oxymoron.

Not to mention really offensive and dumb.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
A better solution is to throw out the yellows, browns and blacks.
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Re: To save society and civilization would we just let the elderly die?
they are our link to the past

they contain knowledge which cannot otherwise be got

they should be protected

perhaps cloistered

holy means separate

old people are holy
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