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Most of you would wish for my death, but I may be able to save you from yours...

 
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I hesitated, posting here. Godlike has long been overtaken by the most hateful, extreme, elements of the uber RW. I don't post here and only occasionally check in. But, I've been researching Covid-19 for myself, my children and everyone else...

What I've found is beyond simplistic and I am only sharing because I know you all have families and many have children or elderly you can help.

You know how they keep telling you to avoid ALL NSAID's?

It's bullshit.

Ibuprofen may very well cause issues for people RE: coronavirus BUT not all NSAID's are alike.

Naproxen has not been shown to cause issues with Covid-19 and in fact, has been shown in numerous studies to work as an effective antiviral against RNA virus', like the new coronavirus. Luckily, it's even been shown effective at normal dosing ranges (2-8mg/kg/day OR 220mg to 700mg if 200lb [roughly]).

Of course, it's only one tool you need in your toolbox but it's an important one. Not only has it not been shown to worsen Covid-19, it is an effective anti-inflammatory, does not increase viral shedding and while it may be an immunosuppressant, that might not be a terrible thing here since an overblown immune response is partly what kills you.

In addition, you should also be taking Milk Thistle to avoid the fibrosis associated with this disease and if you can get it, Licorice root, Frankincense and any other antifibrotic substance you can obtain OTC.

For other antiviral's, which you will need, I suggest a combo of any of the following:

Woat root/ Banlangen / Isatis root (the tea is hard to find but worth it)
Ginger
Turmeric
Garlic
(Google anti-viral herbs for more)

If you do get a lung infection, you will need essential oils to fight it. Frankincense, Lavender, Tea Tree, Sage and Eucalyptus will all help lower inflammation, help you breathe better and also help fight the virus in your lungs (you'll need them all). Direct vapor inhalation is the safest route though nebulization would be more effective. Volatile oils lose efficacy fast so repeated dosing is needed.

There are obviously hundreds more things out there that could help, but these will help with the worst of it.

If you are feeling sick, still take ten tons of OTC cold meds. Still call your doctor. But add the shit above on top. It really will help. I've been battling symptoms for weeks and I am still alive. Today is the first day I didn't feel like total dog shit. Honestly, I just got my Ban lan gen tea a few days ago and started taking Naproxen a few days ago but the addition of the two seems to have really helped.

Anyway, like I said, I'm sure most of you would piss on my grave but I know you have loved ones and I have to put this out there. Best of luck to all of you. Seriously.
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Also, Vitamin C is crucial (almost forgot). Normal supplementation has not been shown to boost immunity beyond dietary needs BUT large doses at the first sign of infection HAVE been shown to help fight viral infections quite a bit (and for many days after). Most of the studies revolve around sepsis but advanced SARS or ARDS lead to sepsis so are relevant/related.

BTW - Most studies involve IV doses and it's debatable as to whether oral dosing is effective but it certainly couldn't fucking hurt. (BTW - it actually won't hurt. Side FX minimal at best and even at mega doses, amount to nothing more than an upset tummy.)

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Naproxen studies RE: antiviral effectiveness...

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I'm looking for the reason why I would piss on your grave, but it's totally absent from your post 1dunno1

Can you clarify why exactly I need to piss on your grave and what the benefits would be? Appreciate it.
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Glad you are feeling better! Don't know why you think all GLP'ers would care so little about you. But we don't all fit the same mold.

I think I have all the items you mentioned, and will keep your advice in mind if any of us show symptoms. Just found out today that we have (had) 4 confirmed cases in my town - I say had becasue the first case - confirmed last week - died this past Monday! The new case, confirmed today, is a female in her 20's.

Hubby and I are in the high risk group, so knowing I have some good tools in the medicine cabinet makes me feel better. Thanks for taking the time to share. I hope you continue to improve and return to normal soon!
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OMG CT hugs Missed you here!

OP, CT is a first responder and long time GLPr.

I don't think she would wish for your death, FYI.

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You lost me at essential oils. No evidence to support any of this
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Oh yeah, and some poor bastard med student in Iran was thinking the same thing I was. Apparently Iran 'might' be making an announcement regarding Naproxen being part of the their treatment protocol, but we'll see...

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I read it, legit sources and worth considering. I will have some alleve on hand.
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You lost me at essential oils. No evidence to support any of this
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Yeah, no I get it.

It all sound like bullshit woo BUT there are a number of new studies supporting it. I put all the citations together here (wasn't planning on sharing since it might expose me a bit, but whatever) and as you can see, I cited every single assertion regarding EO's. You might be shocked how much research there is these days. Seriously, it's not all fucking Wicca and crystals, I promise.


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Thank you for the information. Im glad you are feeling better.
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Please hesitate again in the future.
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Glad you are feeling better! Don't know why you think all GLP'ers would care so little about you. But we don't all fit the same mold.


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"Most of you would wish for my death"

give me a break, i would ban you
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I’d rather die, than have to take that laundry list of GNC, fraudulent, witch doctor horse shit.
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horseradish!
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Re: Most of you would wish for my death, but I may be able to save you from yours...
Glad you are feeling better! Don't know why you think all GLP'ers would care so little about you. But we don't all fit the same mold.

I think I have all the items you mentioned, and will keep your advice in mind if any of us show symptoms. Just found out today that we have (had) 4 confirmed cases in my town - I say had becasue the first case - confirmed last week - died this past Monday! The new case, confirmed today, is a female in her 20's.

Hubby and I are in the high risk group, so knowing I have some good tools in the medicine cabinet makes me feel better. Thanks for taking the time to share. I hope you continue to improve and return to normal soon!
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Thank you! I really do hope I help somehow. I am weirdly good at researching random crap and since I have asthma/dysphagia was looking into some of this before all the Covid-19 shit started up. When it did, I doubled down on researching it. Especially when I started getting sick. Anyway, as for the negative Nancy stuff about people here being hateful, I just, man, when I do pop over and lurk here I see all sorts of stuff about liberals needing to die and God knows what else. I usually just pop back over to Twitter at that point :) I really miss Elaine and Kent and ghosts and UFO's and the usual woo but Godlike is what it is now. Anyway.... Glad you have the stuff on hand :) I really, really, super hope you don't catch anything but if so, I hope something I posted helps. Best of luck to you and yours!
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do you take all the vitamins and herbs now or wait till you have symptoms?
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"Most of you would wish for my death"

give me a break, i would ban you
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Shut up dickweed.

Go ban yourself.

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Re: Most of you would wish for my death, but I may be able to save you from yours...
Why the heck would GLPers want you dead?

blink

Never wished death upon anyone in my life.


And yes, ginger and turmeric seem to have worked for me
for a number of years now, against all kinds of flues.

Trick is to take it as soon as one notices the very first
symptoms. Matter of minutes, it seems.


peace
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I read it, legit sources and worth considering. I will have some alleve on hand.
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Thanks! Glad to hear it. I should add that it's probably best to NOT take Naproxen until symptoms start. It does have an immunosuppressant effect and you do want your immune system working full speed when it first comes in contact with the virus. But, when your fever spikes or you start to have pain/ inflammation, totally start taking it (and other stuff). Best of luck to you!
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I got through a weird chest cold 18 months ago once the doc prescribed Prednisone for 5 days. It just went POOF. And I was on a nebulizer and felt like I had a chest full of sticky spider webs. Could have been asbestos over exposure since a nearby demolition was taking place about a week before.

Not seeing Prednisone in the news as a treatment, but that was the cure when I could barely catch my breath awhile back...

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Sadly, I'm deathly allergic to naproxen. Ah well...not allergic to plaquenil, thankfully!
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There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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do you take all the vitamins and herbs now or wait till you have symptoms?
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Depends on what you're taking. For the stuff I've mentioned, Naproxen and Vitamin C should only be started after you've started showing symptoms. Other stuff like Frankincense, Milk Thistle, etc, are fine to take before hand and during. Like I said though, it depends. If you're curious about something in particular, let me know and I can look into it further for you.
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"Most of you would wish for my death"

give me a break, i would ban you
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Shut up dickweed.

Go ban yourself.

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White knight to the rescue
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"Most of you would wish for my death"

give me a break, i would ban you
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Shut up dickweed.

Go ban yourself.

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Zinc
Vitamin C
Vitamin D3
Magnesium
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The healthiest people I know don’t take a thing. They let their body do the work (in general).

The sickliest people i know are the self medicating, modern day hippie, herbal addicts.

My herbs, my essential oils, my supplements...... LOL

Always sniffling and whining about something........
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Re: Most of you would wish for my death, but I may be able to save you from yours...
Why the heck would GLPers want you dead?

blink

Never wished death upon anyone in my life.


And yes, ginger and turmeric seem to have worked for me
for a number of years now, against all kinds of flues.

Trick is to take it as soon as one notices the very first
symptoms. Matter of minutes, it seems.


peace
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner


Ginger and Turmeric are great. I have an order for Turmeric powder on the way but haven't added it yet myself. Have been adding about 1/8 tsp of Ginger to my powders though (Reishi, Dandelion root, Licorice root).

Anyway, as for the other comment. I am a liberal. I've seen the hateful posts on Godlike towards Democrats and liberals and haven't posted in years thanks to the venom spewed by some. But I figured on this, fuck it. Politics doesn't matter here. Even if some fucker does want me dead for fucking politics, maybe he'll remember some study I posted if his kid gets sick or his Grandma gets sick. We're all in this together.
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