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Epidemiologist Behind highly cited model admits he was wrong and drastically revises model

 
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I personally know doctors that are on the front lines in NYC.

Anecdotal is nice,isn't it?
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And what are they saying?
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Pulm crit care attending at long Island jeweish is full, queens and other long Island hospitals are more full (using non icu designed beds with staffing)

Transfers need to go out towards Manhattan / bronx or out of area - Albany or Syracuse.

Rad onc attending at Columbia, all sites in Manhattan either full or running on less than 10 vents (yesterday) might be gone now.

Pediatric attending at downstate full, overflow being shared across the street with kings county.

They are not out of beds yet, they can flex upwards somewhat but they will be beyond capacity in less than a week.

Nyudowntown hospital attending family practice, full, but ed not busy.

Once eds is full with vented patients, that's when shit hits the fan. Not there yet.
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Jamaica and Elmhurst are overrun.
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I personally know doctors that are on the front lines in NYC.

Anecdotal is nice,isn't it?
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And what are they saying?
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I’ll tell you - Derp, derp.......Derp??
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Now that they've passed the 800 page bill, let's see if this thing kinda magically goes away.
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Derp!!!???
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

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What if he's wrong this time too?


epiclol
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He underestimated how fast this would spread so in that context, it's good news drevil

OK
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

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The CDC just admitted that their models are shit too. Off by hundreds of thousands (as of today).
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Dr BIRKS bringing the PAIN on National TV rightnow


the MODELS were shit ...basically is what she said

She also said the "transmission rate" was WRONG ....LMAO we were HAD

DeepState in conjunction with China and WHO would be my FIRST conclusion ....remember those games in China
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Believe there a many other mitigating factors : tests have huge error rate, now two types of Covid -19 L & S, one more lethal to children, no final determination on best TX, not approved by FDA, second wave after summer? Increase in cases when people begin to travel again? Living under restricted circumstances currently. Medicines from China are poor quality. They messed with the test kits sent to Europe. Refused to see d medications to USA. Hope for the best outcome, prepare Ford the worst.
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They scrubbed the article. If someone has it, please post it.
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Yeah I can't load it...
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Dr BIRKS bringing the PAIN on National TV rightnow


the MODELS were shit ...basically is what she said

She also said the "transmission rate" was WRONG ....LMAO we were HAD

DeepState in conjunction with China and WHO would be my FIRST conclusion ....remember those games in China
 Quoting: wvgal57


Thanks for confirming. She said that the UK just revised their expected death toll from 400,000 to 20,000. “We have to find out why they did that, but yeah, our models are shit.”
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
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The CDC just admitted that their models are shit too. Off by hundreds of thousands (as of today).
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Link?
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Dr BIRKS bringing the PAIN on National TV rightnow


the MODELS were shit ...basically is what she said

She also said the "transmission rate" was WRONG ....LMAO we were HAD

DeepState in conjunction with China and WHO would be my FIRST conclusion ....remember those games in China
 Quoting: wvgal57


Thanks for confirming. She said that the UK just revised their expected death toll from 400,000 to 20,000. “We have to find out why they did that, but yeah, our models are shit.”
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Burke will be one of the first unsealed.
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The plaquenil therapy with a Zithromax doesn't seem to be working.

Haven't heard much about hydroxy chloroquine yet or the high dose vitamin c.

Couple hospitals have trials going on with the retro viral but results so far hasnt been statistically signicant to end and recommend for or against.
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bump
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From Neil Ferguson himself. There's some confusion as to what he meant.

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It's only a 90%+ downgrade. Those darn decimal points!
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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Trust in government agencies was your first mistake, just look at the "deficit", you'd be better off giving a junkie money than giving it to the government, at least with a junkie you know where that money is going.
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so all u have to do is say: "Excuse Me, My Bad! I was wrong...teehee", and that makes all better, these so call experts never have to answer for any crimes they cause, like insight a Panic, it's pardon me, I revise my data and I was wrong, after millions have ran to the stores for TP, I say TP ass, and build this fucker a prison from all that TP so he can rot in it.
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
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Lol good luck on that In 20 years of being on this forum I have never seen such vicious attacks against anyone with a different opinion
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These Virustards are just like the Climatetards; It's like a religion to them and they're totally invested in the scam and can't find a way to back out of their delusions.
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imperials schooled by indians

nice one, UK.

or course this revision all hinges on it having already spread through a significantly larger portion of the population than anticipated. by an entire month, no less. dunno about all that, chief, but i hope that's the case.
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I sware I had it on new yrs day. Killed it off rapidly by drinking high dosage iodine in water. Not recommended at all. But what doesn't kill you makes you stronger eh?
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Big Daddy D


The CDC just admitted that their models are shit too. Off by hundreds of thousands (as of today).
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Link?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78472378


It was during the press conference. Not sure if MSM will report it, but some will. The poster just below me confirmed though.
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Whoopsy! Can we all go back to work now and all the idiots on here who have been posting about how this is going to kill millions, crawl back under a rock?

[link to www.dailywire.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Big Daddy D


This will conclude testing from the Borg Queen and all drones can go back to daily consumer functioning. Resistance to operant conditioning through media overdrive is futile!
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When do all the virustards start admitting they were wrong and apologize to the people they called "nothing burger tards"?
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"I think it would be helpful if I cleared up some confusion that has emerged in recent days. Some have interpreted my evidence to a UK parliamentary committee as indicating we have substantially revised our assessments of the potential mortality impact of COVID-19.

This is not the case.
Indeed, if anything, our latest estimates suggest that the virus is slightly more transmissible than we previously thought. Our lethality estimates remain unchanged.

My evidence to Parliament referred to the deaths we assess might occur in the UK in the presence of the very intensive social distancing and other public health interventions now in place.

Without those controls, our assessment remains that the UK would see the scale of deaths reported in our study (namely, up to approximately 500 thousand)."
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Can I ask one of the Mods to get rid of ALL THE RED KARMA I was given for saying this was a GIANT SCAM from DAY 1?????
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Lol good luck on that In 20 years of being on this forum I have never seen such vicious attacks against anyone with a different opinion
 Quoting: Malu nli


These Virustards are just like the Climatetards; It's like a religion to them and they're totally invested in the scam and can't find a way to back out of their delusions.
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why do you even care about "karma." its a fake and gay marketing gimmick based on social validation feedback loops and superdumb. Just reprogram your mind to know that green and red are both the same. Damn you stupid for emotionally reacting to what your "cyber-peers" think of you. lol Moran!
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neil_ferguson
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Again, many many thanks for everyone’s very kind support. I was tested given my recent proximity to people leading the UK response. Positive. Which is a strange experience - to be infected by the virus one is modelling Still feeling rough, but not awful.
5:49 PM · Mar 19, 2020

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neil_ferguson
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Again, many many thanks for everyone’s very kind support. I was tested given my recent proximity to people leading the UK response. Positive. Which is a strange experience - to be infected by the virus one is modelling Still feeling rough, but not awful.
5:49 PM · Mar 19, 2020

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So...he's not going to die. He's like 99% of all others that have been infected.
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5 star OP. The response to this whole thing is akin to madness.
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I hope, for all our sakes, that Ferguson is right. I wonder if there are any independent studies (outside of the Oxford study) that refute or agree with Ferguson’s predictions?





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