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Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????

 
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Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
For anyone who 100% trusts what the CDC is telling you, and for anyone who truly believes that there is nothing peculiar with the testing or the numbers, riddle me this: Aside from MSM news articles and supposed numbers from Johns Hopkins on a computer screen, how can you PROVE without a shadow of a doubt, that people are actually dying as a result of having the COVID-19 pathogen, rather than from other complications? (Example: pneumonia or cardiac arrest from of Influenza etc..)

I will await for your simple fucking answers with baited breath...
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
For anyone who 100% trusts what the CDC is telling you, and for anyone who truly believes that there is nothing peculiar with the testing or the numbers, riddle me this: Aside from MSM news articles and supposed numbers from Johns Hopkins on a computer screen, how can you PROVE without a shadow of a doubt, that people are actually dying as a result of having the COVID-19 pathogen, rather than from other complications? (Example: pneumonia or cardiac arrest from of Influenza etc..)

I will await for your simple fucking answers with baited breath...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689250


Nobody can offer you proof unless they people's death certificates. I'm convinced they are messing with those test kits. No way that many people have this stupid virus!
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
How can you PROVE it?

Well, it is quite simple. If someone tests positive for the coronavirus, and negative for the flu, they didn't die from the flu.

If someone tests positive from the coronavirus, and dies due to respiratory or heart complications, it is quite easy to determine that it was caused by coronavirus....especially if someone was moving around and not needing hospitalization BEFORE they caught the virus.



I'm just not sure what you are really asking?

What is complicated to you about the concept of someone catching the coronavirus, and then dying from complications related to covid-19?




Doctors in China have done quite a few autopsies on people who have died from the virus, and their lungs are obstructed by a really sticky mucus. That's what this virus does.

In fact, if someone dies from "pneumonia" , and they test positive for the virus, you can draw the obvious conclusion that it was the virus that killed them.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
Simplest, ( and most likely ) answer is the we don't know for sure, and we will never know the real truth, because this whole thing is a multi-layered "op" of global porportions. Yes, there's a variant of corona virus that's probably been monkeyed with to a certain degree, but it's not doing nearly as much damage as the well planned and orchestrated actions of the various governments and media hyping this up.

I suspect 90% of the so-called Covid deaths should actually be labeled as opportunistic secondary infections of pneumonia. And since there are apparently so few of them (globally speaking), I'm guessing whoever did the 'work' on this virus might be in some serious hot water over their failure to kill off more of the useless eaters. Now they're going to have to bring in the military and martial law (or more likely contractors) to finish that job...
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
How can you PROVE it?

Well, it is quite simple. If someone tests positive for the coronavirus, and negative for the flu, they didn't die from the flu.

If someone tests positive from the coronavirus, and dies due to respiratory or heart complications, it is quite easy to determine that it was caused by coronavirus....especially if someone was moving around and not needing hospitalization BEFORE they caught the virus.



I'm just not sure what you are really asking?

What is complicated to you about the concept of someone catching the coronavirus, and then dying from complications related to covid-19?




Doctors in China have done quite a few autopsies on people who have died from the virus, and their lungs are obstructed by a really sticky mucus. That's what this virus does.

In fact, if someone dies from "pneumonia" , and they test positive for the virus, you can draw the obvious conclusion that it was the virus that killed them.
 Quoting: TheSuperMarket


Oh, so you've seen those test results yourself have you? You've been in the lab? That's so good to hear! Especially since doctors don't even have access to the lab since they rely on pathologists and/or are simply sending samples from the kits to be tested and wait for the results. How did you get access to the fundamentals of the biochemistry regarding the testing? We're you part of the funding for them? Either way, good to hear that you know the science behind how the testing works and that you're in the labs. We need people like you since doctors are simply regurgitating what they are told on the lab reports.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
For anyone who 100% trusts what the CDC is telling you, and for anyone who truly believes that there is nothing peculiar with the testing or the numbers, riddle me this: Aside from MSM news articles and supposed numbers from Johns Hopkins on a computer screen, how can you PROVE without a shadow of a doubt, that people are actually dying as a result of having the COVID-19 pathogen, rather than from other complications? (Example: pneumonia or cardiac arrest from of Influenza etc..)

I will await for your simple fucking answers with baited breath...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689250


Here is a simple answer:
Because I don't believe the entire world of doctors are lying.

I don't believe every researcher that has looked at this under a microscope is lying.

I don't believe every nurse taking care of patients are lying.

I don't believe that every family member that has lost a loved one is lying.

Now we can argue all day over how this got loose and whether it is man made or natural.

But arguing over whether it even exists or not just seems like you are too scared to process reality.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
Hyped up Media feeding frenzy
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
For anyone who 100% trusts what the CDC is telling you, and for anyone who truly believes that there is nothing peculiar with the testing or the numbers, riddle me this: Aside from MSM news articles and supposed numbers from Johns Hopkins on a computer screen, how can you PROVE without a shadow of a doubt, that people are actually dying as a result of having the COVID-19 pathogen, rather than from other complications? (Example: pneumonia or cardiac arrest from of Influenza etc..)

I will await for your simple fucking answers with baited breath...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689250


Nobody can offer you proof unless they people's death certificates. I'm convinced they are messing with those test kits. No way that many people have this stupid virus!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689485


Wait, What?!? So you don't believe that any pandemic has ever occurred. Like, you don't believe the Spanish flu was real? That affected wayyyyyyyy more people.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
For anyone who 100% trusts what the CDC is telling you, and for anyone who truly believes that there is nothing peculiar with the testing or the numbers, riddle me this: Aside from MSM news articles and supposed numbers from Johns Hopkins on a computer screen, how can you PROVE without a shadow of a doubt, that people are actually dying as a result of having the COVID-19 pathogen, rather than from other complications? (Example: pneumonia or cardiac arrest from of Influenza etc..)

I will await for your simple fucking answers with baited breath...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689250


Here is a simple answer:
Because I don't believe the entire world of doctors are lying.

I don't believe every researcher that has looked at this under a microscope is lying.

I don't believe every nurse taking care of patients are lying.

I don't believe that every family member that has lost a loved one is lying.

Now we can argue all day over how this got loose and whether it is man made or natural.

But arguing over whether it even exists or not just seems like you are too scared to process reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72057746


Kind of a straw man there. Why? Because none of the people above have to lie if the test kits and the subsequent reports they produce are rigged (for a lack of better word) to come up positive for a specific pathogen in 1 out of 5 patients who are tested. You're making this much too complicated.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
How can you PROVE it?

Well, it is quite simple. If someone tests positive for the coronavirus, and negative for the flu, they didn't die from the flu.

If someone tests positive from the coronavirus, and dies due to respiratory or heart complications, it is quite easy to determine that it was caused by coronavirus....especially if someone was moving around and not needing hospitalization BEFORE they caught the virus.



I'm just not sure what you are really asking?

What is complicated to you about the concept of someone catching the coronavirus, and then dying from complications related to covid-19?




Doctors in China have done quite a few autopsies on people who have died from the virus, and their lungs are obstructed by a really sticky mucus. That's what this virus does.

In fact, if someone dies from "pneumonia" , and they test positive for the virus, you can draw the obvious conclusion that it was the virus that killed them.
 Quoting: TheSuperMarket


Oh, so you've seen those test results yourself have you? You've been in the lab? That's so good to hear! Especially since doctors don't even have access to the lab since they rely on pathologists and/or are simply sending samples from the kits to be tested and wait for the results. How did you get access to the fundamentals of the biochemistry regarding the testing? We're you part of the funding for them? Either way, good to hear that you know the science behind how the testing works and that you're in the labs. We need people like you since doctors are simply regurgitating what they are told on the lab reports.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689485




What are you even talking about?

You are making no sense. Why on earth would I need to go the lab? What reason do you have to believe the entire medical community is in on some kind of crazy global conspiracy, all to mislead YOU.

There is a difference between questioning things, and being downright paranoid.

I have no reason to believe there is a giant worldwide conspiracy out to trick people that coronavirus exists. There are tens of thousands of people who have seen this VERY virus with their own eyes, using lab equipment. The virus exists, whether you believe in it, or not.




I'm sorry man, but I don't get where you are going with this.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
For anyone who 100% trusts what the CDC is telling you, and for anyone who truly believes that there is nothing peculiar with the testing or the numbers, riddle me this: Aside from MSM news articles and supposed numbers from Johns Hopkins on a computer screen, how can you PROVE without a shadow of a doubt, that people are actually dying as a result of having the COVID-19 pathogen, rather than from other complications? (Example: pneumonia or cardiac arrest from of Influenza etc..)

I will await for your simple fucking answers with baited breath...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689250


Nobody can offer you proof unless they people's death certificates. I'm convinced they are messing with those test kits. No way that many people have this stupid virus!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689485


Wait, What?!? So you don't believe that any pandemic has ever occurred. Like, you don't believe the Spanish flu was real? That affected wayyyyyyyy more people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72057746


Another straw man, and a bad one at that. I never said I didn't believe in pandemics. I said I don't believe in THIS pandemic. You're trying to compare apples and oranges using straw mans, as if there was technically that existed back in the day, where fuckery could even take place to begin with.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
It's a Globalist Cult media creation designed to strip us of our dignity by restricting our toilet paper and paper towel, along with them taking our plastic bags and straws before.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
How about some more:

I don't believe that Iran and America decided to set aside their differences to dupe the world about a killer virus

Same with China

I don't think Putin closed his entire border with his closest ally (China) or banned all planes into the country to pull one over on Americans

I DO believe that hoaxtards are having severe cognitive dissonance issues and don't want to accept reality because it scares them.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
For anyone who 100% trusts what the CDC is telling you, and for anyone who truly believes that there is nothing peculiar with the testing or the numbers, riddle me this: Aside from MSM news articles and supposed numbers from Johns Hopkins on a computer screen, how can you PROVE without a shadow of a doubt, that people are actually dying as a result of having the COVID-19 pathogen, rather than from other complications? (Example: pneumonia or cardiac arrest from of Influenza etc..)

I will await for your simple fucking answers with baited breath...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689250


Nobody can offer you proof unless they people's death certificates. I'm convinced they are messing with those test kits. No way that many people have this stupid virus!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689485


Wait, What?!? So you don't believe that any pandemic has ever occurred. Like, you don't believe the Spanish flu was real? That affected wayyyyyyyy more people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72057746


Another straw man, and a bad one at that. I never said I didn't believe in pandemics. I said I don't believe in THIS pandemic. You're trying to compare apples and oranges using straw mans, as if there was technically that existed back in the day, where fuckery could even take place to begin with.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689485


Whoa whoa whoa Ms. Lippy. Then what would make you say that there is no way that that many people have this? Its not even that many, at the moment (500,000 GLOBALLY).It implies you don't believe mass amounts of people could get a virus?
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
How can you PROVE the Earth is round, OP?

Or... that Outer Space and gravity exists?
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It's a Globalist Cult media creation designed to strip us of our dignity by restricting our toilet paper and paper towel, along with them taking our plastic bags and straws before.
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Your "diginity" is based on toilet paper, paper towels, plastic bags and straws.

Yikes. I'm sorry for you.
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
What are you even talking about?
 Quoting: TheSuperMarket



Last time I checked, we were discussing how to prove that people are dying as a result of having contracted COVID-19.

You are making no sense. Why on earth would I need to go the lab?
 Quoting: TheSuperMarket

You clearly missed the sarcasm.

What reason do you have to believe the entire medical community is in on some kind of crazy global conspiracy, all to mislead YOU.
 Quoting: TheSuperMarket


No reason to be foolish. It would be impossible and insane to believe that the entire medical community would be in on a global conspiracy. Thankfully, that;;s not what I said. I said that I don't believe that the test kits are truly diagnosing patients accurately and/OR the official cause of deaths are not nearly from complications of COVID-19. You do understand that a limited number manufacturers develop the test kits and then simply distribute them, right? Surely you are aware of this?

There is a difference between questioning things, and being downright paranoid.
 Quoting: TheSuperMarket


If your definition of "paranoid" is simply asking the question as to whether anyone would have anything to gain by creating this crisis, then I honestly can't help you.


I have no reason to believe there is a giant worldwide conspiracy out to trick people that coronavirus exists. There are tens of thousands of people who have seen this VERY virus with their own eyes, using lab equipment. The virus exists, whether you believe in it, or not.
 Quoting: TheSuperMarket


Suit yourself, but I don't believe it. At the very least I am highly suspect of the numbers.
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For anyone who 100% trusts what the CDC is telling you, and for anyone who truly believes that there is nothing peculiar with the testing or the numbers, riddle me this: Aside from MSM news articles and supposed numbers from Johns Hopkins on a computer screen, how can you PROVE without a shadow of a doubt, that people are actually dying as a result of having the COVID-19 pathogen, rather than from other complications? (Example: pneumonia or cardiac arrest from of Influenza etc..)

I will await for your simple fucking answers with baited breath...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689250


The gubbermint will tell you
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How can you PROVE the Earth is round, OP?

Or... that Outer Space and gravity exists?
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I've been fortunate enough to have been up high enough in the atmosphere to see the beginning of the curvature.
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if you don't believe in it, just go out without a care, in fact I would urge everyone thinking like that to do the same so as to clear out the gene pool of our species a little more
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
The TV and the Internet say so, therefore, it must be so.

Be a good party member
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Re: Simple F*cking Question: How Do We Actually Know People Are Dying From COVID-19?????
For anyone who 100% trusts what the CDC is telling you, and for anyone who truly believes that there is nothing peculiar with the testing or the numbers, riddle me this: Aside from MSM news articles and supposed numbers from Johns Hopkins on a computer screen, how can you PROVE without a shadow of a doubt, that people are actually dying as a result of having the COVID-19 pathogen, rather than from other complications? (Example: pneumonia or cardiac arrest from of Influenza etc..)

I will await for your simple fucking answers with baited breath...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78689250


Here is a simple answer:
Because I don't believe the entire world of doctors are lying.

I don't believe every researcher that has looked at this under a microscope is lying.

I don't believe every nurse taking care of patients are lying.

I don't believe that every family member that has lost a loved one is lying.

Now we can argue all day over how this got loose and whether it is man made or natural.

But arguing over whether it even exists or not just seems like you are too scared to process reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72057746

No! Simpler answer:
Because nobody should believe anything passed to the public by the MSM. All news passed to the people is hearsay. I want to hear from a GLP person who has actually had a loved one die from Covid-19. I won't believe anyone else because their info is all hearsay they got from the MSM.
The MSM can report anything they want, truth or not, depending on who's pulling their purse strings. YOU weren't there, so YOU don't know. Until YOU personally experience or witness it, IT didn't happen. And in a court of law, it's hearsay and can't be considered as truth.

Have a nice day.

Truther :-)
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