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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78659621 Nearly 4 month indeed, as I said....early days, and I was on holiday in the Far East until early March, mark my words, our lives are not going back to normal any time soon... Get your head out of your ass, 4 months in, there should be millions dead, you fagggot. Don't know why your're so angry, have patience and watch what happens. Been watching since December, you fagggot Then watch a couple of months more, I hope you're right and this shit stops in its tracks so we can all get back to normal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78659621 United Kingdom 03/29/2020 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78659621 Don't know why your're so angry, have patience and watch what happens. Been watching since December, you fagggot Then watch a couple of months more, I hope you're right and this shit stops in its tracks so we can all get back to normal. Not watching anymore, seen enough bullshit from you and OP. Nay problem, all the best, stay safe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77677209 United States 03/29/2020 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for you ass-tards that want to ignore the numbers and just be dicks, i changed the title. Quoting: JJ Johns Been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues today when we hit 32,000 deaths now in only 6 days after 16,000 was hit on 23. march Date Mortality Doubling in /Days 09. March 4025 17. March 7979 23. March 16513 29. March 32145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] How do you know this is true? You know that you don't know. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78524002 United States 03/29/2020 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fake figures Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701802 Covid scam Extremely (intentionally) flawed testing/data. The following is from a medical forum. The writer, who is a widely respected professional scientist in the US, prefers to stay anonymous, because presenting any narrative different than the official one can cause you a lot of stress in the toxic environment caused by the scam which surrounds COVID-19 these days. *** I work in the healthcare field. Here’s the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments. This is why you’re hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That’s because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues. The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome. The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues. The New Coronavirus Outbreak, COVID-19, Sounds Menacing and Is The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense. And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load. If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you. If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis. And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen. Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus. They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common. There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time. All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease. Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die. You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on. Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist. Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically. Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people, you are mislabeling your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic. But you can stop people pointing this out in several ways. 1. You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead. 2. You can tell people that ‘minimizing’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers. 3. You can talk crap about made up numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience. 4. You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen. Take these 4 simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks. They can not “confirm” something for which there is no accurate test. Wow that is nuts! So these kits are only testing for CORONAVIRUS (there are many strains) and not COVID-19, no wonder the number of 'mild cases' is so high. Is there any way to validate what this guy is saying about the competence of these testing kits? We need the link to the medical forum it was posted. Hopefully we can see virologists debating there to make a judgement of the validity of that post. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77957791 United States 03/29/2020 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for you ass-tards that want to ignore the numbers and just be dicks, i changed the title. Quoting: JJ Johns Been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues today when we hit 32,000 deaths now in only 6 days after 16,000 was hit on 23. march Date Mortality Doubling in /Days 09. March 4025 17. March 7979 23. March 16513 29. March 32145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Prove those numbers are real. |
Oscanator User ID: 78507509 United States 03/29/2020 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The great clouds of doom have diapered to let the sun shine upon us. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73992024 I have followed this virus since mid January. Initially, it looked to have promise to thin the herd. Alas, it is not to be. Had the RO rate of 2.5 to 4 had been correct, then most of the world would have been infected along with millions of dead by now. It has not happened. The fact is that a good flu season would put this virus to shame. While true the total numbers are still increasing the actual percentage is minuscule. Something is seriously strange about the virus response. Almost ready to call total bullshit. You are still going offnumbersfrom China you idiot.new flash, millions died there,not thousands. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54872279 United States 03/29/2020 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from another thread... Covid scam Extremely (intentionally) flawed testing/data. The following is from a medical forum. The writer, who is a widely respected professional scientist in the US, prefers to stay anonymous, because presenting any narrative different than the official one can cause you a lot of stress in the toxic environment caused by the scam which surrounds COVID-19 these days. *** I work in the healthcare field. Here’s the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments. This is why you’re hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That’s because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues. The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome. The problem is the test is known not to work. It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery. Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues. The New Coronavirus Outbreak, COVID-19, Sounds Menacing and Is The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells. Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense. And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load. If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if a osteogenesis is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you. If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis. And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen. Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus. They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common. There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time. All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease. Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die. You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on. Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist. Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically. Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people, you are mislabeling your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic. But you can stop people pointing this out in several ways. 1. You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead. 2. You can tell people that ‘minimizing’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers. 3. You can talk crap about made up numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience. 4. You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen. Take these 4 simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks. They can not “confirm” something for which there is no accurate test. |
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Adamic Seed nli permabaned User ID: 73671075 Canada 03/29/2020 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the implication to all this worldwide cooperation is that we realise our united power to achieve a positive goal. As a fire drill, our cooperative concerted effort could be a way to make people see their power at deflecting a global threat. For instance, If there is a world leader who is behaving dadly, we could marshal our efforts globally overnight using the internet to dispose of the bad apple. During time off from work, in containment at home, people will finally have a spare moment to re-evaluate their lives, and make any needed course corrections. All very positive results. So, it could be a military psy-op, marshalling our desire for self preservation, our goodwill, light-heartedness, discipline and skill. Using 'found objects' - already present: a yearly flu season, and the internet we have played with for 20 years, not realising its true potential. So far, we've only been using it to wonder aloud if Lady GaGa is a man or a woman. This unites the variables required for an actualisation of people empowerment, a la guy fawkes day, as in the film, "Vendetta." so, not everything has a dark and brooding meaning behind it. Psyops can be good too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77202143 Canada 03/29/2020 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for you ass-tards that want to ignore the numbers and just be dicks, i changed the title. Quoting: JJ Johns Been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues today when we hit 32,000 deaths now in only 6 days after 16,000 was hit on 23. march Date Mortality Doubling in /Days 09. March 4025 17. March 7979 23. March 16513 29. March 32145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Worldometer is not a credible source. Numbers are pretty off if you compare with official stats. |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you're the ass face that came in here and was rude from the beginning. fuck off. the numbers are from the official stats and everything written is true as it stands. do you have any actual point, or do you just like to be a giant dick? much more likely, you have a small dick and feel so low about yourself that you feel the need to be dick. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for you ass-tards that want to ignore the numbers and just be dicks, i changed the title. Quoting: JJ Johns Been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues today when we hit 32,000 deaths now in only 6 days after 16,000 was hit on 23. march Date Mortality Doubling in /Days 09. March 4025 17. March 7979 23. March 16513 29. March 32145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Prove those numbers are real. i listed my source. prove they're not real . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for you ass-tards that want to ignore the numbers and just be dicks, i changed the title. Quoting: JJ Johns Been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues today when we hit 32,000 deaths now in only 6 days after 16,000 was hit on 23. march Date Mortality Doubling in /Days 09. March 4025 17. March 7979 23. March 16513 29. March 32145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] HOW CAN IT DOUBLE EVERY SIX DAYS WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN LOCKDOWN???????? don't shoot the messenger. i'm just posting what is happening. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for you ass-tards that want to ignore the numbers and just be dicks, i changed the title. Quoting: JJ Johns Been following and posting on this here over the past few weeks. The exponential growth (amount of deaths doubling every 6 days) continues today when we hit 32,000 deaths now in only 6 days after 16,000 was hit on 23. march Date Mortality Doubling in /Days 09. March 4025 17. March 7979 23. March 16513 29. March 32145 [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Worldometer is not a credible source. Numbers are pretty off if you compare with official stats. then, would you like to provide a link to these better sources. i don't think you'll find much of a difference, but i would be happy to take a look. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78264761 United States 03/29/2020 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amazing how everybody quickly jumped on OP for pointing out that the numbers are rising. That looked like a shill attack. We shouldn't be surprised. _________ The lockdowns will slow the infection, but the big problem? The 20-somethings are out wandering around like its no big deal, they hang out in cars, drive around... then they are going to go back home and spread it to the family. Every single 20+ year old I've helped, talked to says "im not worried about it" the virus is for OLD people. History will show - that piece of mis-information spread the virus like crazy. The 20 year old doesn't respect the advisories- they stand next to each other. They hang out together at the walk up window at the burger king. Meet your asymptomatic individuals. Welcome to the New Age. . |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take a look at the giant Drudge headline and get back to me. It's doubled in two days in the U.S. Quoting: blackdiamond most of the people trashing the thread and spewing vitriol are either shills, or are experiencing cognitive dissonance, and most are fucking idiots. the would rather just yell and make ad hominem attacks because they don't have any actual points or facts to stand on. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |
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(OP) J to the 3rd User ID: 78471388 Switzerland 03/29/2020 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Amazing how everybody quickly jumped on OP for pointing out that the numbers are rising. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78264761 That looked like a shill attack. We shouldn't be surprised. _________ The lockdowns will slow the infection, but the big problem? The 20-somethings are out wandering around like its no big deal, they hang out in cars, drive around... then they are going to go back home and spread it to the family. Every single 20+ year old I've helped, talked to says "im not worried about it" the virus is for OLD people. History will show - that piece of mis-information spread the virus like crazy. The 20 year old doesn't respect the advisories- they stand next to each other. They hang out together at the walk up window at the burger king. Meet your asymptomatic individuals. Welcome to the New Age. . cheers, thanks. shill parade shit all over something that is very easy to see, and verify from sources. if they don't believe the sources, then they can bring up reasons for this in a mature way and discuss it. but instead, they just attack. their shill intentions seem obvious. . . No clotshot, NEVER! . Mad as hell! . |